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18 Dec 2019 21:55:50
Apparently City are surprised by the talk of us announcing Artetta as our manager when we haven't even spoken to them and agreed compensation.
Whatever has happened at Arsenal we used to be so prim and proper in how we conducted our business.
1.) 19 Dec 2019 11:17:19
This could be because the way they poached our players in the past. Pay back I guess.
2.) 19 Dec 2019 12:48:18
I doubt it but if so how old is josh 5?
City have well moved on from the Mark Hughes buy Arsenal days and have no interest in any of our players now days.
I'd incompetence was the more likely explanation than pay back.
10 Nov 2019 09:02:59
I'm not sure if Emery can't or won't change his ways but either way it's plainly obvious his ways his methods his tactics just aren't working at premier league level.
What would be the point in continuing with Emery few more games or weeks! What is going to suddenly start working that hasn't worked upto this point in time?
9 points over 26 games isn't impossible to make up but neither will it be a formality for a new manager either.
There are absolutely no guarantees that if we change managers things will suddenly come good but there is a genuine possibility they might under a different manager that simply doesn't exist under Emery.
We have a squad that has the quality in abundance we just need someone who can organise and motivate them into a cohesive team that functions to its full potential.
There is no logical reason to carry on with Emery, I've read people saying the club don't want to pay his compensation money and would rather let him see out his contact to save what a £3 millions pay off?
But that's just people being negative towards the board because I'm sure Josh and Co are more than capable of working out the financial loss of champions league football money v £3 million in compensation without the need to consult the world's greatest mathematic brains first.
1.) 10 Nov 2019 13:24:20
As usual, nothing to disagree with from G62. I have little faith in the board to act decisively. They have a history of dithering and fiddling while the team burns on the pitch. As you said elsewhere, the only language they understand is empty terracing. I would rather listen to us lose on the radio, than freeze my arse off sitting at the Emirates.
I would love to be wrong, but those hoping for a sacking on Monday. I wouldn't hold my breath.
2.) 10 Nov 2019 15:08:24
Hi Urban mate I think you've got it bang on, vote with you bum if your not happy and spend your time doing something that does make you happy until the club team and manager give you reason to feel they are your best way of spending your time and money again.
3.) 10 Nov 2019 19:24:06
I just don’t know how emery is making Managing Arsenal look like a difficult job? This season I honestly couldn’t tell you what system we’re playing. Yes Wenger was dated, but you knew what you was getting. A team trying to play possession football until an opening presented itself. Against Leicester, we couldn’t even string 5 passes together. No one knew where each other are, we got strikers playing like wingers, playing so deep against a team that plays with 1 striker. Emery isn’t connected to his players and he’s not connected to the fans. Sack this tactical fraud, leave Freddie in charge til we can get a manager with a clear vision.
4.) 10 Nov 2019 19:43:08
It's true ice mate we have no identity no structure no Arsenal way of playing that the players can get they're heads around and become comfortable with and most importantly good at.
Every game a different starting 11 a different game plan a different formation what chance do our players have? And of course they are only human so are naturally becoming deflated and losing interest and motivation to simply indulge yet more nonsense.
5.) 11 Nov 2019 09:58:15
Icy, you are so right. It was embarrassing watching us play what amounted to a back five against a side with a lone striker. And Gunner, spot on about identity, we don't have one at all. We even had one under Graham, albeit based on grinding opponents down and a very flat back four with their hands up every five minutes. I watched Liverpool yesterday afternoon, and even with some (one) lucky breaks, they looked every bit the finished article where we look pedestrian. The worst of it is, our front three/ four are the measure of anything Liverpool have got. But the rest is disorganised, poorly deployed, and yes, lacking any kind of identity.
The papers (I know) are this morning reporting the boards confidence in Emery. If true, I'm not surprised. Of course, we don't want a trigger happy board, but one season, and a third of this one, is enough to know. It could be a long frustrating season.
6.) 11 Nov 2019 10:25:20
In a game that’s about numbers and statistics, I’d be curious to know which one Emery is impressing in, that’s keeping him in that seat.
Ed any inside news on what’s happening? I just can’t accept the board are content with him because under him, Speaking statistically, we won’t challenge top 4 and we don’t want to bank winning Europe when we can’t hold a clean sheet.
{Ed002's Note - It was a mistake brining him in and as I said he was far from first choice. The club has gambled financially on getting in to the top four come the end of the season, and that remains the primary target. It is difficult to see anything happening before the summer when I suspect there might well be a change.}
7.) 11 Nov 2019 10:54:47
The papers are all quoting Ormstein Urban mate so it's a highly credible that is the boards position.
I'm pinning my hopes on the board using Ormstein as a deflection tactic and going to surprise us all as they did when they let the papers run with the "we only had 40 million to spend" story all last summer then bosh! broke our transfer record :-) I know it's not a theory you'd want to put your house on being correct is it :-) ?
Like you said yesterday mate vote with your bum and if your not happy with what's being offered simply don't accept it and find a more enjoyable way of spending your time and money, 20,000 empty seats is an extremely difficult fans message to ignore for long.
8.) 12 Nov 2019 06:49:18
I'm with you 62 fingers crossed 🤞.
08 Aug 2019 08:37:02
Ormstein
Arsenal and Chelsea have agreed an 8 million fee for David Luiz and Tierney will complete his 25 million move today also.
Where's Wesley? Could be a very busy day for you Wes mate.
03 Jul 2019 19:57:15
126 million for a 19 year old who has made 26 first team appearances?
I think we forget about the Lacasette to Athloco rumours now:-)
1.) 04 Jul 2019 09:27:33
Who’s that mate.
2.) 04 Jul 2019 09:29:36
Sell him for 250 mil.
3.) 04 Jul 2019 19:39:16
Felix Welsh mate.
09 May 2019 21:17:34
I know this week has taught us it ain't over until it's over but Valencia now need 4 in the last 30 minutes plus stoppage time, even we can't throw this away, can we :-)
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25 Jul 2020 15:08:45
Just looking at Bruce Riochs only season at Arsenal
5th in the table finishing level on points with 4th place Villa and
League cup semi finalist again losing out to Villa on away goals after drawing 2 2 in the home leg and 0 0 in the away leg.
Bruce brought in a certain Mr Bergkamp during his one season and David Platt.
If Arteta did a repeat of Bruce's season next season i think people would be chuffed with Mikel.
Of course it all worked out well for us with Bruce's replacement some bloke called Arsene Wenger 😀 but I do think poor old Bruce got a rough deal as he inherited a 12th place Arsenal and left us in 5th place and with the unbelievably brilliant Mr Bergkamp.
1.) 25 Jul 2020 17:11:34
Hopefully - things can only get better
MIKEL ARTETA officially has a WORSE record after his first 19 league games than the club's last four bosses, including flop Unai Emery.
2.) 25 Jul 2020 19:51:42
I'm sure things will improve mate, I saw the headline Arsenal's worst season for 25 years so decided to lok at the 94/ 95 season which was pretty much down to George's exit and no replacement until the next summer. Looking at the 95/ 96 season Bruce did ok and I think we'd be pretty pleased if Mikel could get us within goal difference of top 4 next season.
Bruce inherited the famous Arsenal back 4 plus Romford Pele and Ian Wright then added the unbelievable talent that was Denis Bergkamp handing Arsene an incredible base from which to build on.
Poor old Mikel inherited a demotivated terribly disorganised undisciplined mess from Emery who himself had inherited the sane from Arsene.
I don't blame Arteta for this seasons position one bit, next season is his to be assessed on and the improvement he does or doesn't come.
23 Jul 2020 15:04:15
I like the realism and acceptance rather than positive garbage from Arteta.
Is winning the FA cup and 8th place a good season for Arsenal? No it's not a good season.
Also he said " over 38 games and 10 months you finish where you deserve to finish "
I absolutely love that honesty that we've simply not been accustomed to at Arsenal for a very long time.
We've had more than our fair share of positive spin and total denial of reality and It's really refreshing to hear someone in a position of power at Arsenal tell it like it is.
I just hope he's as frank honest and open throughout his Arsenal manager career.
1.) 23 Jul 2020 15:20:35
100% mate it's great to see. One thing Arteta did mention is the size of the gap between us and those above which I think he described as huge? Rightly so, it's huge between us and the likes of City and Liverpool but it's not as big as we think for the rest. Most of the teams above us have actually lost more games but we have drawn a crazy amount and a lot of them were from winning positions. If we can turn a handful of them in to wins then the gap in reality isn't as big as we think.
2.) 23 Jul 2020 15:58:40
Very true Glen but I'd rather hear the words huge used than " we are not far away " or " the potential in our squad is huge " and of course the old favourite " were not as far away as people think we are " :-) .
It's really exciting to listen to Arteta"s acceptance of the situation rather than the embarrassing nonsense of the past that few but the person saying it took seriously.
Obviously it doesn't mean because Arteta talks sense he is definitely the man to turn us around but it's most definitely a very good step in the right direction that's for sure :-)
3.) 23 Jul 2020 16:14:20
I agree with both of you
It’s rather refreshing to hear.
4.) 23 Jul 2020 17:05:41
The players certainly won't go into there summer break thinking all they've got to do is turn up next season carry on as always and things will magically fallen into place next season for them :-) .
I'm sure everyone knows where they stand and it's just not good enough.
5.) 23 Jul 2020 18:53:51
Yeah definitely mate. I'm sure he'll be keeping them in check during the short break! I just hope he can get them going nice and early with any new additions. We don't have a lot of time to tweak the squad if we are going to without causing too much unrest amongst the lads.
6.) 23 Jul 2020 21:05:37
It is a short break Glen mate and I'm not expecting revolutionary change next season, I'd settle for top 6 and more consistent performances in Arteta first full season. Obviously more would be a very welcome bonus but United Chelsea Spurs and possibly Wolves and Leicester will feel they are every bit as much if not more capable than us of getting 3rd or 4th. We have to set targets than are both reasonable as well as an improvement on this season in my opinion.
22 Jul 2020 21:47:14
Sunday should be interesting for top 4, a draw will do United and might even do Leicester too if Wolves beat Chelsea but if United beat Leicester Chelsea are home and dry no matter what they do against Wolverhampton.
Obviously doesn’t involve us but still be interesting end to the season.
{Ed047's Note - think that will be a danger for United, thinking a draw will do but on a plus for them it’s likely Wes Morgan will be playing at CB.
Chelsea just making a big effort getting back to 3-4
1.) 22 Jul 2020 22:03:09
Oh really it was 4 1 when I posted mate :-) Just shows you've always got to wait for the fat lady :-)
{Ed047's Note - well it’s 5-3 Liverpool now so maybe she can start after all
20 Jul 2020 21:45:32
Sheffield united loosing tonight means IF we beat Vila Tuesday and Watford Sunday we have to rely on Tottenham completely bottling it at Palace on Sunday in order to make top 7.
What are our chances? Extremely high if we beat Vila and Watford :-)
1.) 20 Jul 2020 22:19:10
We are already in Europe.
{Ed002's Note - No - why do you keep saying this?}
2.) 20 Jul 2020 22:22:12
Tottenham are normally rubbish on the last day and they are playing away, albeit Crystal Palace haven't won since the restart.
3.) 21 Jul 2020 00:08:04
I would prefer us to just focus on winning the FA cup, that way we might have the chance of denying Spurs a spot as an added bonus.
4.) 21 Jul 2020 05:58:34
Don't the fa cup runners up get in Europe if chelsea get top 4 and beat us or does it just give an extra spot in the league.
5.) 21 Jul 2020 10:11:54
Not anymore Stephen, they changed that rule a few years back mate, if the league cup or Fa cup winners don't need the Europa spot it automatically goes to the next highest premier league place now days.
But best not try and tell Welsh :-) .
Very true Wire mate we would deny Tottenham a place by winning the cup but it would be brilliant to both finish above them and go into the final with a Europa league place already in the bag :-)
6.) 21 Jul 2020 07:39:12
Ed was the no comment aimed at me? The commentators said sat if we reach the final we are in Europe even if we lose the final.
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal would need to qualify for Europe through league position or through winning the FA Cup. The commentators are obviously teasing the Arsenal fans.}
7.) 21 Jul 2020 18:46:27
bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53385467
This may help.
19 Jul 2020 13:45:06
I'm actually excited about Tuesdays game at Vila, never thought I'd be saying that this time last week :-)
Vila have to win it to stand any chance of staying in the premier league while we have to win it to have any chance of top 7 finish and Europa league qualification via the premier league route, but most of all I'm excited to see how we follow up the City and Liverpool wins and if we can continue the momentum throughout the remainder of the season.
1.) 19 Jul 2020 18:58:25
Good luck for your first day at work bud 👍🤞.
2.) 19 Jul 2020 19:39:13
Thanks SY mate, it's a bit doubtful it will be tomorrow mate as I didn't get any conformation by Friday evening so I'm guessing it's the DBS holding things up, hey ho I've waited this long a few more days isn't the end of the world :-) .
Thanks for remembering it was supposed to be tomorrow, really appreciate that mate.
3.) 19 Jul 2020 19:51:56
We are already in Europe.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
4.) 20 Jul 2020 14:16:41
Have a good first day mate.
04 Aug 2020 10:18:05
An agent in charge of our transfer strategy? What's not to like about that!
Perhaps next we could ask Raver to pick our starting 11 all next season too and ask KFC to provide our players prematch menu.
03 Aug 2020 17:21:23
Great, someone else trying to use Arsenal for personal reasons, not the way forward in my opinion.
I'd rather take a chance on lower profile more appreciative options.
Arteta had to accept less wages at Arsenal than he was on at Everton to make his move to us happen, obviously he was reluctant to do so initially but he wanted to join us so much he took a chance.
03 Aug 2020 11:10:00
Ozils wages shouldn't come into the equation, everyone in football knows Mesuts 350k wage offer was one of footballs most crazy decisions made for all the wrong reasons by people who had complely lost touch with reality at the time, and I'm sure all who were involved in offering Mesut that contract back then are embarrassed by thier decision back then.
Offer Auba the going rate for a player of his abilty and not a penny more and if it's not enough cash in and let someone else pay him more.
It's not fantasy football as I think the Mesut Ozil situation has proved and decisions need to be made logically for the greater good rather than emotionally and regretted later.
02 Aug 2020 12:52:00
Be good if it happens 16 Mate.
31 Jul 2020 21:15:33
I guess so Glen but still can't help but think if we are in the financial mess we are reported to be in how we are going to support Auba Courtinho Ozil wages plus fees and wages for other new signings.
Hey ho luckily it's not my job to justify or worry about it :-) but I'm just trying to make sense of it:-) .
04 Aug 2020 17:34:56
Sally, Sally, pride of our ally :-)
04 Aug 2020 16:38:52
It's only a game DG, not worth getting too down about mate.
When the fun stops, STOP! :-) .
04 Aug 2020 15:01:03
Hi Sally91 welcome to the page! Kante would be the absolute dream signing but unfortunately I think the real wide awake world it's never going to happen.
04 Aug 2020 12:17:54
Surely if Auba goes it's an opportunity to promote from within rather than replace?
Giving opportunity to Martinelli Eddie Balogun this gives you cash to strengthen elsewhere then assess how they've done next summer and replace only if necessary.
04 Aug 2020 10:06:07
Absolutely TG mate, Make him a fair take it or leave it offer.
I hope he would accept such an offer but if someone somewhere wants to offer him over the odds wages and he'd rather be there than here then, thanks for the memories and the goals and enjoy being just yet another ex Arsenal player wherever you end up.
He's good but he isn't more important than the rest of the squad put together and he certainly ain't more important than Arsenal football club that's for sure.