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10 Feb 2017 21:59:33
If Arsene is to leave come May as Wright has predicted would Arsenal have to make an announcement in advance like Man utd did with fergie.
{Ed025's Note - no mate..
1.) 11 Feb 2017 00:08:40
What do u think about what wright said ed?
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what IW has said.}
2.) 11 Feb 2017 00:27:02
He basically said that he spoke to arsene and gets the feeling that he will leave this season. Ed i checked the old posts and didn't find your opinion on the topic, can u repeat it please?
{Ed002's Note - I explained in the past couple of days that the club are making provisions for him to leave as planned this summer - but they would have liked another year out of him.}
3.) 11 Feb 2017 07:40:04
Am I right in thinking ManU had to announce it as they are on the New York Stock Exchange? I hope the Wenger contract is resolved swiftly either way at the end of the season to allow plenty of prep time in the summer.
4.) 11 Feb 2017 09:24:28
Was a listed company I believe. UTD would have needed to declare things in line with exchange rules.
5.) 11 Feb 2017 07:56:47
I can't believe he's actually going to go. Ed i'm sorry i really don't know how to use this website but can u tell me the list of candidates plz. It will be the last question because i know u hate repeating urself.
{Ed002's Note - The problem is that evrytime I have explained what has happened so far and what the options might be the vegetables come out of the woodwork and wreck it for everyone. I have explained previously that approaches have been made to two people and that the first told a third party acting on behalf of the club that he would not welcome an approach. The second is Allegri as I have explained.}
6.) 11 Feb 2017 11:27:18
Apex, towards the top of the page is a search box. Simply type Ed002 into it and it will bring up anything Ed002 has responded to. You can then scroll down and view all the nuggets of wisdom.
7.) 12 Feb 2017 16:36:55
I think we need to stick to our guns keep faith in Wenger. I hope he signs another 2 year contract. We have been in a very dark place. We are coming through and can see the light but let us not abandon our leader.
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10 May 2025 00:07:12
I have enjoyed this season overall and it has definitely been an eye opener for me. With all our injuries we have been fighting to be at the top of the table most of the season. We are now coming to end of the season have beaten Real Madrid home and away to reach the champions league semi finals only for injury laden team to have been beaten by a well organised fresh team but boy did we give them a run for their money. We now have 3 games left 9 points up for grabs with Aston Villa 7 points behind is in 7th position. Things could end up a lot worse than they are. We now have A team and a B team with our youngster’s potentially even have c team. If we get the players we need to improve our team n realistically that’s only 2 maybe 3 signings next is season is going to be one hell of a season so let’s be grateful for what we have n what’s coming and get behind the team and manager. Come on you gunners.
1.) 10 May 2025 08:52:41
I'm with you G4 mate but I think we are currently either in the minority or at least on the opposite side of an equal split between those of us who appreciate and have enjoyed our dramatic improvement and those who cannot accept anything but being the very best of the best at all times.
2.) 10 May 2025 12:36:45
62 no one expects us to win everything but we should at least be in the argument!
3.) 10 May 2025 13:57:21
Were we not in the Champions league argument this season
? We're we not in the Premier league argument up until the very last game of the season last season?
I appreciate different people have different values and opinions but can we are at least agree that to suggest Spurs and Man United have done better than Arsenal this season are taking the argument to a ridiculous level and that that those very same people who claim now claim United and Spurs have done better than us this season would get completely out of their prams if we finished the in same league position as United and Spurs finished in last season in the same position as United and Spurs finished in, let alone where they both are now in the league this season.
To me this is complete double standards and purely looking to put Arsenal and Arteta down in any way they can find to do so.
4.) 10 May 2025 17:20:40
62 what happened to our domestic challenges?
5.) 10 May 2025 19:11:06
OK a recap.
In the league cup we lost quite badly over 2 leg's in the semi final to Newcastle who went on to be beat Liverpool in the final winning their first domestic trophy in 70 years
In the FA cup we lost in the 3rd round? I think, to Man United on penalties after extra time. Embarrassing yes but Liverpool went out to the champships bottom team Plymouth, magic of the FA cup? It happens
In the league we fell off the pace and just couldn't keep up with Liverpool with so many injuries to so many important players but we ard currentlyout pacing all others despite all the injuries. Would we have pipped Liverpool to the title if it were not for the injuries? Maybe, maybe not we will never know the answer to that question so it's a debate best not had.
6.) 10 May 2025 19:35:07
No doubt we have regressed this year.
7.) 10 May 2025 20:19:17
So have the farmer's yeilds who didn't get the best weather last year.
8.) 11 May 2025 10:46:03
Bit of a bizarre reply 62.
03 Apr 2025 13:18:59
Afternoon all. Hope everyones enjoying the sun that we are seeing at the moment.
One of the things I have wanting is the right support team around Arteta so that he can bring in the right players that we need. We all want a striker and winger and possibly someone to rest odegard. I have said if the right players are brought in and we don't bring in siver than we need to start to question Arteta's ability to carry on.
The question for me is who are the right players and what will they bring to the team. What do you all think should be our must signing this summer.
1.) 03 Apr 2025 18:48:00
Starting ST, LW and LCM for me.
2.) 03 Apr 2025 19:27:03
2 Strikers, left winger, centre midfield and a decent CB for cover as well as GK cover.
Outside of the cover - these need to improve the starting 11.
Drop some of the players like Kai / Trossard to the bench. They just aren’t good enough.
Improve the squad by replacing departures like Jorginho
Just as important is a number two who will question and push Arteta to be more progressive in tactical changes, attacking football and his bottle. This is a must.
Would also like a change in Captain who is a real leader.
3.) 03 Apr 2025 21:38:29
Why not go the full hog and change the tea lady as well.
4.) 03 Apr 2025 21:49:41
Roger that Mark ?.
5.) 03 Apr 2025 22:44:50
The two Ronnies are funny. Roger that ?
Keep up the propaganda
Good that you don’t gang up and mock different opinions ?
I will be rubbing that rabbit foot hoping for change and success - why would I want to maintain status quo. It’s not worked for last 3 years.
6.) 04 Apr 2025 07:28:33
Come on Sy4, it’s all done in good fun, not meant to be a witch hunt
I use to get it over Wenger
Chill bro.
7.) 04 Apr 2025 07:36:43
Er, What's up Sy ?
You've been trying to wind everyone up all season putting the Arsenal down and bigging everyone else up at every opportunity you personally can create for yourself to do so. Surely he who lives by the ? must also be prepared to take a bit of Easter bunny back ?
Up The Arsenal ?
Or up the toon ? and the forest ? depending on which your personal preference is.
8.) 04 Apr 2025 08:32:54
Haha John
Just love it ?.
9.) 04 Apr 2025 09:18:16
Very funny gents - I’m fine and hope you are Mal.
I’m chilled - just want to fxxxxxx win something
Suns out - Spurs are rubbish and we have a Real Madrid game next week. Exciting times ??.
10.) 04 Apr 2025 09:42:17
Hi Mark, basically it's all just like Chas and Dave said it was back in the 70s mate ??????????.
Sy stated a couple of months ago that he liked to create a bit of friction, so I'm sure he's living the dream now we are giving him a bit of bunter back ? really ????
I'm sure he'll see the bunny side of it all mate ?????????????????.
11.) 04 Apr 2025 14:23:14
Didn’t realise that was friction ?
Friction as in challenging your blind love of Arteta Vs my sensible but repetitive downer on him but you don’t engage on that front you just bleat on about old sayings, crap about improving or players trying hard ?
He doesn’t have cover for ode? Runs Saka into the ground, signs a poor forward, gets rid of 3 attackers, sells one for 4m that’s banging goals in for fun in Europe, buys defenders yet you moan about injuries and not having a decent attack? Look at your Emperor - he’s naked to everyone else yet you think he’s magic.
12.) 04 Apr 2025 14:57:59
If you 2 don’t stop I’m going to have to call the police
I hear starsky and HUTCH are on patrol.
13.) 04 Apr 2025 17:12:03
I can see Arteta really Bugs ? you. What we really need is real Thumper ? of the ball up front, Plus someone who is an Energizer ? in midfield. But the last thing we need are players who just Hare ? about Hare ? there and everywhere or any Playboy?type characters. ?????????????.
14.) 04 Apr 2025 20:01:17
Well, another discussion lost to the same tantrum.
15.) 04 Apr 2025 23:26:36
A little slow but I knew Moe would pipe up at some stage…. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk!
What was that Moe?
If you check I just shared an opinion of what I thought we needed - no tantrum until your mates Curly and Larry piped up with jokes as old as watership down.
16.) 05 Apr 2025 16:07:42
He asked specifically about players - you did your usual infantile hatchet job in the form of demanding an assistant manager.
Sometimes I do sit back and admire the brazen confidence of the brainless.
14 Feb 2025 20:51:38
Sorry people I’m really down at minute looking at what we have availble I’m seriously reconsidering my expectations of us for in the premier league up until Kai injury I was expecting us to be close second to Liverpool. Now I’m praying for a miracle we finish top 4.
1.) 14 Feb 2025 21:35:19
The nice thing about the future is it's totally unknowable G4 mate, so often the stories we tell ourselves turn out to be completely wrong.
No one expected Forest to be where they are right now or for City to be out of the title race before Christmas.
Just remind yourself of Forest Gumps " life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get " sometimes what we have convinced ourselves is going to be a nasty chewy toffee ends up being a delicious soft centred strawberry delight ?.
2.) 15 Feb 2025 12:32:35
I am more positive for next season though. With all this time out most of the team will be together in the summer and renegerised for the new season. As long as we don’t do anything stupid like selling Saliba other teams will be worried us coming at them.
3.) 15 Feb 2025 14:36:02
What about afte today G4 mate? 4 points behind Liverpool and 6 ahead of Forest plus 10 ahead of Chelsea and 12 ahead of City both of who were declared to be to far ahead of us to catch earlier in the season
This season isn't over yet mate and neither is our title challenge, we may be depleted in numbers but we are currently still very much the team that just won't go away no matter what challenges we face or how many times people chooose to write us off.
Chin up G4 mate and up the Arsenal as always ?.
18 Jan 2025 09:34:37
Morning all. Looking forward to a good game this afternoon. It’s a big challenge for arteta and the team. In previous 5 meetings arteta has only beaten emery once drawn once and lost 3. A win today will be a great confidence booster for the team and fans.
I am seeing big names flying about and knowing arsenal I seriously don’t believe we are going for any of them. More think media creating click bites to draw fans in and building expectations up for a massive fall out at the end.
Last few seasons have shown that we do go on a strong run after the window so I am hopefull that even though we may not sign anyone significant our performance will pick up.
13 Jan 2025 13:04:28
Morning all. I have been trying not to post and hold my own emotions back. I was worried about last night game especially looking at how things have played out in the last month.
First of all, I wanted to address the fan's reactions to last night. No matter how long you have been following the club or how much you have struggled to attend the games we have no right to attack a players/ managers family. Give your head a good wobble go see the doctors because if you reacted like that over a game of football there is something seriously wrong with you. We are all humans and not even Totenham players deserve that.
The last two years we have been fortunate with fresh players not that many games and injury free team. Players are humans who do need rest and respite and have a life away from football and family to care for. I said before the game that United won't be a walk in the park as no matter how bad they are they will always put in a performance against us, and they did that yesterday.
Reports are now emerging of Arteta asking for players that he never got instead was provided with what we have today. If a manager came out and said so himself I wanted so and so and they gave me so and so what do you think that would do to the team morale and how long will the owners keep that manager in a job? Remember Conte at Tottenham when he gave a true picture of Tottenham failures.
When Arteta has tried to rotate the squad he has we all called him out (including myself) We all need to give him and the team time to progress. Yes he has had five years, in which he has taken us from almost bottom of the table to regularly fighting for 1st spot cemenet or Champions League position. That in itself is a massive task I for one would not have expected to be challenging like we are and very grateful for that.
For me its just as important to make sure that we have the right backroom staff as we have on the pitch and for me right now we don't have that. We need to fins a replacement for Edu as quick as possible. Someone who has good links with the scouting world of football who can unearth untapped players that will come in cheap and have good resale value. Then we need to find a striker who will finish all these chances that we are creating and strengthen other positions. Do we know anyone of this caliber (saying it quietly Wenger without having influence on the actual game)
If we want a quick fix and a one off Prem league title then let's go out to what leicester did but don't forget what happened to them soon after winning. We want to build a team that will consistently be winning titles teams that future generations will be proud off
I have said it before Arsenal was here well before me and most of the fan base (not sure about G62) and will be here a very long time after we are all gone. Enjoy what we have and where we are heading. don't stop posting because someone else has a different hought process to yourself that's the beauty of this site we have all have different views and they all count and i for love reading to all the posts.
If we can't be behind the team when they are going through a rough patch we are not fans of the team or club but glory hunters. If you are a glory hunter then you are probably supporting the wrong club because we do not jump ship when the going gets tough and it is very tough right now
Now for the next game Tottenham are going to get it hard and I'm expecting a high scoring game, i'm hoping Ange won't be parking the bus and that will give us opportunities which we can exploit.
COYG We love you all.
{Ed025's Note - cracking post that G4E, and what you said about the abuse to the wife of KH is spot on...absolutely horrendous and out of order mate...kudos..
1.) 13 Jan 2025 14:38:43
With the exception of your comments about the vile hate players are receiving, I don't agree with anything you're saying. Particularly, the comments about being glory hunters. You're talking about many fans here who have been supporting the club for several decades. Hardly glory hunters.
I'm not in the Arterta out bandwagon, but I don't get the idea of you and others trying to wrap him in cottonwool. I'm not sure why there's allegations of wrongdoing, or why we as fans, need to care about who was responsible for signings. These people are paid extremely highly to do this, and over the last few seasons they seem to have seriously screwed the proverbial pooch.
There's accountability and responsibility. You can't keep blaming the match ball and expecting that to fly.
2.) 13 Jan 2025 16:41:49
Right until this season we had been improving every year. If this season ends up being a failure (still plenty of games to play) in my opinion Arteta would still deserve another chance to get us back on track. However, he would have to surpass not only this season but last season as well to keep his place beyond next season.
Mistakes were made last summer but i have no idea who should take the blame. Next summer will be huge though. I would love to see someone come in january as well. I know it's not easy (been reading ed001's replies) but things are starting to look desperate for us. A new forward could give us a huge lift.
3.) 13 Jan 2025 17:05:47
100% agree. I understand Arteta took us from 4th to challenging again, but that was not the ultimate aim. The aim was to start winning again, and we haven’t. We have been disgustingly poor in the cup competitions and at times bottled the league. This is the time and season for him to move on if we don’t win the league or CL. Think of the bigger picture, the likes of Saliba leaving because he wants to win. Do you want to go through another cycle of rebuilding or do you want to win now? That is the question.
4.) 13 Jan 2025 17:39:01
RSharpe i'm glad we agree on something. People often take things out of context and read what they want to see, or what they believe someone is referring too. I have not asked for Arteta to be wrapped in cotton wool. I have asked for time to be given and tehre is nothing wrong with that.
People mention Arteta has been here 5 years and should be held accountable. I have not read his contract but I can only assume his initial obligation would have been to turn things around and make us competitive in the market. I don't know about you but if you read some of my earlier posts of a few years ago at times I was questioning if Arsenal were still the club that I fell in love with all those years ago. This was not an over night thing players had left managers had left back room staff had left ownerships had changed, club ethos where being questioned.
Arteta came and has successfully changed all that and those who have been part of changing company culture and ethos will appreciate the work and effort that goes into that. We are now at a stage where we are looking for the next jump this is delivering silver and being on the top of the game. It won't happen over night especially with our limited spending power. that's why in my earlier posts this year I said we should be looking at reviewing Arteta managerial position. Review should take into consideration if Arteta is the right person is delivering on club expectations. Some reports already suggest he had to force the signings through of fury and Merino although jury is still out if they were the right signings.
The comment with the match ball I believe like Sir Wenger earlier commented is a tactical genious. It takes all the pressure away from the team even though it makes him look like an idiot. Keeps the pressure away from the team. Seems to me he wants the best for the club and fans but we don't see it.
I don't claim to have inside knowledge of what goes on inside the club and how they conduct the business, but surely if you are bringing the wrong people to the team than that would be looking at the recruitment process rather than the training process. If Edu couldn't find/ pay for a striker than you can't really blame Arteta for playing a striker. that's why we as fans need to look at the bigger picture. The owners will happily change the manager because then the pressure stays off them. Accountability and responsibility is set by them and measured by them I am sure they would have reviewed that when his contract was up
As mentioned in previous posts I think we should sit tight see who the club decide to replace Edu with and if the said person delivers the players we need.
United we stand devided we fall. We have the foundations of great team let's get behind them and our young manager. He will bring devident. Please don't take this post as battering people down with alternative thought process I strongly believe the sucess of this site is down to having a mixture of opinions without which it would die out and would hate for that to happen.
5.) 13 Jan 2025 17:49:32
I think once the fans start to lose faith in the manager and/ or the players it is a very slippery slope to get back to the top.
I can't see Arteta giving up his position voluntarily but I'm reading Trossard, Kiwior, Tierney and Jorghino are close to moving on and Partey is out of contract in the summer.
I assume Marquinos, Viera and Reiss Nelson will all be sold in the summer. That's quite a turnround in the next few months.
I can't agree with a get him out now approach. We haven't been the same since the Invincibles so perhaps we need to realise that we don't have a God-given right to be the best but we can TRY to be the best we can. Looking round the other forums it seems we are very disliked for our arrogance and cheating. Not things I want our club to be associated with. I assume all the faffing about wasting time is a new Arteta tactic to try to get an edge and I hope that is soon history.
I think we have to be realistic about this season and so does Arteta.
{Ed025's Note - yeah Sally the Arsenal are not liked very much at the moment according to the other teams pages mate, not that it will bother many gooner fans i expect who may just think its a bit of jealousy, top 4 looks like the most you can achieve this season but the next campaign is massive for Arteta, that is of course that he is still at the helm by then..
6.) 13 Jan 2025 18:27:42
Completely agree with all you said, gunns!
And the opposition fans also hated us when we had Wenger, a literal messiah for English football, so I could care less if our recent upturn in fortunes has inspired their envy.
7.) 13 Jan 2025 18:56:37
Excellent post G4 mate ?
Unfortunately I couldn't afford the required sixpence to help form Dial Square back in 1886, my pension just wouldn't stretch to it back then mate ????.
8.) 13 Jan 2025 20:30:40
Hi G4,
I read that we have some key contracts up for renewal soon. If we don’t win something this year or next - we are in trouble.
I have to assume 700m comes with expectation of trophies and based on rumour Edu left due to Arteta’s increasing power - I find it hard someone else chose our signings plus Arteta prioritised positions over a striker. He loves Kai.
My main issues are the playing style, squad quality, tactics and lack of energy in our play. I think we have no real leaders and certainly have not addressed the mentality of the club and players.
He’s improved us but I think he lacks that killer instinct and tactical shrewdness. How many lower teams out play us by changing tactics.
If he’s still got the changing room - why can’t he get them playing better at start of each half after a team talk
Injuries are real but so is his shallow squad and duds that are playing in European leagues. The poor signings really have not helped and they weren’t cheap.
Passing sideways - on him
No striker and all attacks via Saka - on him
I have some sympathy and appreciation but I don’t think he’s got the horsepower. I’d give him one more season and minimum required is a trophy and top 3.
Happily get behind him as he’s a Gooner but he hasn’t earned much more time than that especially as he can’t seem to stop the slow sideways / backward bollox we are doing.
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9.) 13 Jan 2025 22:18:07
Edu has publicly denied there is a problem with Arteta SY, unless he's telling porkies.
10.) 13 Jan 2025 23:30:14
Speaking on The Transfers Podcast, Castles said: “Arteta went into the season in his strongest position of power ever at the club, having been handed a new three-year contract in September.
“That contract, I’m told, was one of the key reasons why Edu resigned his position as sporting director to take up a broader position with Nottingham Forest and Olympiakos owner Evangelos Marinakis, the multi-club group, because he wasn’t happy with Arteta’s increasing authority at the club. ”.
11.) 14 Jan 2025 00:01:58
Also from the Independent
Arsenal have instead gone in another direction, and some of this is understood to be partly linked to changing dynamics within the club. As executive vice-chair, Tim Lewis, is the Kroenke ownership’s most influential figure, with the football department entirely revolving around Mikel Arteta. The Basque's transformative impact ensured he was promoted from head coach to outright manager, inherently lessening the role of any technical director.
09 Mar 2025 09:38:22
Andrea Berta is a step in the right direction. If he gets the financial backing and players coming back from injuries Next season has to be a phenomanal season for us.
02 Feb 2025 15:47:47
unfortunetly I am getting ready for the fall out in the upcoming weeks when the club states we tried (Watkins) but nothing availble, and Nwaneri is like a new signing.
02 Feb 2025 13:52:41
I thought about that until I heard he turned down Tottenham for potential loan deal at man united.
29 Aug 2024 13:43:50
DCL is injury prone and toney has too much baggage neither for me.
28 Aug 2024 16:44:52
Darvin nunez work rate is phernominal. Would love to see him in an arsenal shirt arteta to get the best out of him.
11 May 2025 13:32:17
The main reason we digressed in wengers later years is because the club was unable to financially compete with the others. Any player we would approach would get a better offer from elsewhere. Not down to the manager but the board. The only reason we are still in premier league is because Wenger stuck around assuring the banks we were in safe hands. We now know Edu was not working working for the best interest of the club and had been doing dodgy deals to support his own cause rather than the club. To blame Arteta for the board and Edus doing is ludicrous . The reason why the hire and fire culture worked at Chelsea and not and not for say Man U or Tottenham is purely down to Chelsea would support the incoming manager with full funds. The managers bought with them a team of back house staff that ensured they would get the player they wanted. Arsenal board does not work that way. That hire and fire for arsenal would be a catastrophic action to take.
10 May 2025 15:26:30
DG your example of players falling out and wanting to leave is not one that I can see I think the team are behind Arteta they can see him getting us everything and mark my word if we bring in the correct signings (and its not on Arteta who we sign) , next season will be an amazing season for us. let's not try and fix something that is not broken.
The players you have mentioned that left under wenger did not leave because they thought wenger was unable to deliver trophies nut instead they new kronkes would not be putting hands in their pockets to bring in players that were required same reason david dein left. The club need to go out and bring in the players we need.
Mark my words unless we have a bigger injury crisis than we have had this season come this time next season there will be happy Gooners.
If we bring in the signings required and keep a health squad and we don't win than it will definetley be the right time to be looking to replace
If we don't bring in the right signings if I was Arteta I would resign Come on People Next season is ours.
08 May 2025 21:23:06
Evening all. Understand some fans anger and frustration at not going through to the finals. Honestly I think we are all hurt and disappointed at how close we got but the outcome is still the same we have nothing in the cabinet. Not many of us expected us to progress past the first half of champions league never mind reaching the semi final. I'm proud of the overall performance of the team over the last 3 years especially this season given our injury hit squad. We have unearthed some real gems and makes the summer window easier to buy what we need. Let us not forget we still have 3 games left and nothing should be taken for granted we could easily finish outside the top 5. Let's get behind the team that have given us the opportunity to dream again so we can finish the season as high as possible and hope kronke and the berta can bring the players in that are required. Love the team love the manager. Clear out the players that are not growing with the team and bring in fresh players with winners mentality that can bring something to squad.
07 May 2025 11:44:10
Im ill in bed guys so proably going to miss most of the match. We have what we need to beat this team. The team will be successfull and we will win.
27 Apr 2025 12:17:45
Really good to hear from you DG. We all either have or will have some time in the future our share of bad news and circumstances to face. For me unfortunately sometimes even words of condolences and encouragements made things worse. They say time is the best healer and you have to accept and try and occupy yourself in day to day tasks again. Good luck mate and remember it’s good to talk to others and open up about your emotions.