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15 Aug 2020 03:20:38
Interesting news from ESPN today that Arsenal, led by Edu, are doing an internal investigation of the Pepe transfer. I think everyone was shocked by the amount - seems it wasn't just us fans.

Of course, the investigation might be more along the lines of "why did we sign Pepe when we could have signed a Joorabchian client" :' (.

wire

1.) 15 Aug 2020 10:28:39
So Edu is conducting an investigation into the role he and his fellow decision making team handled the Pepe transfer?
I've a feeling they will come out of it covered in roses somehow :-) .
Wow they must be short of stuff to do :-)


2.) 15 Aug 2020 12:43:29
Might be related to Raul leaving. Perhaps he took a cut under the table? Don't want to speculate but it does seem very drastic. Not that I'm shedding any tears, mind you.


3.) 15 Aug 2020 20:27:13
Or perhaps Raul was called back at Barcelona?


4.) 15 Aug 2020 22:45:42
Fair point that desi.


 

 

07 Aug 2020 01:23:05
Reports coming out that the Auba contract renewal set to be confirmed in the coming days. Willian announcement to follow.

Never felt so lukewarm about a big signing before. Sigh.

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{Ed0666's Note - it really does beggar belief to give Willian $400k a month when you could get a promising kiddie on a fraction of those wages who would probably do the same job. Eds 002’s insights into the financial running at you’re club are fascinating. That Edu seems like he’s doing an awful job. He makes Rick Parry look like Monchi.


1.) 07 Aug 2020 02:59:03
I think this is the main reason why so many of us Arsenal fans are so sick of Kroenke. It's not the lack of spending that's the problem, we
clearly do spend (and badly) . Clubs like Liverpool have shown that if you invest well then you can compete with the best.
It's the way he operates the club, no accountability, no transparency, no soul. We have a bunch of shysters running the club who only care about their own pockets. It's the work of an asset stripper, a mafioso, someone who doesn't care about what the Arsenal has come to represent over the past 30 years and what the fans love about football. Might sound harsh but I do not recognise the club I began supporting decades ago.

{Ed0666's Note - I feel you’re pain mate. Not trying to rub salt into the wounds but at least you had a modicum of accountability and dignity when Mr Wenger was running the show from top to bottom now it seems like you have the lunatics running the asylum. I honestly think you wouldn’t be in this horror show had wenger stayed in some capacity. The way he was hounded out of you’re club still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and Im a Liverpool fan.


2.) 07 Aug 2020 09:56:54
I have to agree - we used to be able to say we were a class act but this move feels rotten whichever way you approach it from.

It also staggers me that they couldn’t find a better spin than ‘it will free up money for transfers’. They could have simply said ‘we are re-structuring our scouting network’.

It doesn’t feel like we have the best minds from what are supposed to be commercially savvy business types as opposed to ‘football people’ in those roles. I think this is where we do miss someone like David Dein, Arsene Wenger, Tony Adams - just someone who cares about the club and how it is represented.

We have no Arsenal DNA. Bad, bad times.


3.) 07 Aug 2020 12:44:25
While I feel sorry for the 55 people, as I understand it our staffing was somewhat bloated so maybe this is sensible. Willian may well prove to be a master stroke. Yes his salary is high but not transfer fee and you have a proven winner in the Premiership. And keeping Auba was a necessity. I am not (and have never really been) a fan of Coutinho so I hope that doesn't happen. Also in all cases I don't want your emerging young players to be kept out. But for years now we have been told we have the best group of youngsters in the land but very few pan out so trying to get the right balance is imperative. For my money, I like where we are going and I believe Arteta is the perfect manager for Arsenal.


4.) 07 Aug 2020 15:11:43
Stats show that in less games Martinelli was far better than Willian. Not sure why we are going for him.

{Ed002's Note - Because of Kia.}


5.) 07 Aug 2020 20:22:24
Is that really what we are offering? 😮 Have we learnt nothing from ozil and sanchez.


6.) 07 Aug 2020 20:32:41
I hope kia doesn't have a load of one direction T shirts or 100s of boxes of old cycling shorts he's stuck with in his garage or our players are going to look really silly taking the field next season.


7.) 07 Aug 2020 19:42:56
@ED0666 - Was that sarcasm with the wages? Cause Willian was at 120K at Chelsea and rumours are of him signing a 100K deal with us.
For the experience it's a fair price. Agree that we should be looking young but - We already have Pepe/ Reiss/ Martinelli/ Saka and don't want to impede their chances maybe. Willian is just an experience backup is my hunch.

If this happens- Reiss might be loaned out in Jan-Feb maybe.

{Ed0666's Note - No Kasvan I wasn’t being sarcastic I’m being deadly serious. Willian was on 120k at Chelsea but they only offered him a year or two year extension you’ve given him 3 years so works out much more in the long term. I really think it’s an absurd transfer I really do as you could have got say an experienced 26 year old on similar wages who still would be in his prime in 3 years. I think what I’m trying to say he’s not worth the outlay especially given you’re financial circumstances.


 

 

08 Jan 2019 13:01:14
Weirdly widespread rumours appearing that we're in for Carrasco. Hope not, myself - way too inconsistent - but does seem the kind of thing that someone made up and the other papers just ran with. Personally don't see Pepe moving until the summer, so depends how desperate we are.

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1.) 08 Jan 2019 13:35:45
There must be a reason no one wanted him and he ended up playing in china.


2.) 08 Jan 2019 18:36:28
I’d rather Walcott.


3.) 08 Jan 2019 20:26:47
Very good player, who made a money decision and not a footballing one going to China. Top player for athletico scoring some important goals in big games. A lot of big teams were sniffing before he went to China, which was a strange decision and only he new why he did.


4.) 09 Jan 2019 00:17:58
The two clubs are owned by the same organisation Steve. My guess is it was a convenient way to both move on a player Simeone didn't like and transfer some assets to Atleti.


5.) 09 Jan 2019 09:21:19
I’ve watching him play few times and he was full of energy, personally I like him, and I think he could be a good buy. What the eds think of him?

{Ed001's Note - every time I saw him he was abysmal, looked utterly disinterested, though he clearly has a lovely touch and skill, he just has not got the application or intelligence to know how to use it.}


6.) 09 Jan 2019 19:01:28
When he went to China I was disappointed that we were unable to sign him, he looked pretty useful to me.


7.) 09 Jan 2019 19:17:38
It’s a funny thing because every time I saw him play he looked decent. You can get that sometimes.


8.) 09 Jan 2019 22:24:30
Axel Witsel came back from China and is a great Aaser for Dortmund. Why not Carrasco? He is a regular in the Belgias National team. I say go!


9.) 10 Jan 2019 14:50:16
Bring Walcott back he’s faster 🙄.


10.) 10 Jan 2019 20:28:42
Bring back Perry Groves - sure he would come back on a loan 👊.


 

 

14 May 2018 01:58:32
A few of my mates were at the match today and there was talk among the away fans that there is real opposition among the players of appointing Arteta, and some will actively push for a move if he is appointed.

No idea where this has come from and not sure how legitimate it is, albeit somewhat believable.

wire

1.) 14 May 2018 06:44:55
I wouldn't be surprised, it seems like a bit of a mental appointment to me. There must be something about him behind the scenes, that has got him such a good reputation with out any experience. But I think he would have real trouble commanding much respect and getting people to buy into his ideas if they didn't work quite quickly. But we're any of these fans close to any of the players to know their opinions?


2.) 14 May 2018 09:09:42
Arteta would be a big mistake in my opinion, he was part of the cosy club mentality we had here for too long and would be too pally and weak in my view with the existing players. He appeals to the board no doubt as he would be a cheap option and would not demand the transfer funds we need. If we were to go down the ex-player route I rather Vieria, at least he was a winner and woudl command more respect. We should really be after Allegri for me, a bit of Itaillian defensive disipline would do wonders. The board are still scared of spending though by the looks of it.


3.) 14 May 2018 11:58:17
BIG BIG BIG mistake on a loot of levels.


4.) 14 May 2018 13:30:09
None of my mates are connected with the players as far as I know eden. I agree with the general sentiment that he is a poor choice.


 

 

12 Jul 2017 05:17:02
Some news from down here in Australia that Wenger sees Martinez as next season's cup keeper, with Cech set to start in the league and CL. Martinez seems to be highly rated by the boss.

wire

1.) 12 Jul 2017 06:15:29
Which team is cech going to play in the CL for 😂.


2.) 12 Jul 2017 06:44:58
It makes sense although Ospina is still at the club and unless someone stumps up the transfer fee Arsenal require then he may remain at the club. If Ospina departs then Martinez moving up to second choice keeper makes sense as I belive he qualifies as 'homegorwn', with numerical pressure coming on the squad.


3.) 12 Jul 2017 10:38:33
ospins deserves to go and be number one. Martinez is worth a shot. good call for both players.


4.) 12 Jul 2017 16:24:53
I'm very unconvinced my Martinez to be honest. Seems just average to me. But again it's not like I've seen him a lot of times.


5.) 12 Jul 2017 18:16:13
Sano, man citeh probably, we are their feeder. Lol.


6.) 12 Jul 2017 19:40:07
Your prob right.


7.) 13 Jul 2017 01:57:26
LOL I guess I'm still in automatic mode about thinking we're in CL. Wenger really has spoiled us.


 

 

 

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23 Feb 2021 00:05:48
How to be an Arsenal fan in 2021:
1. Ignore the team when they win
2. Immediately write a 3 paragraph rant when Arsenal draw or lose
3. Demand Arteta be sacked
4. Tell yourself you DESERVE to support a club in the top 4, because. uhh, reasons.
5. Be miserable at all times.

wire

1.) 23 Feb 2021 04:58:08
Lol wire bang on, hence why I haven’t been on for a while, can’t stand the doom and gloom.

{Ed077's Note - Night is darkest right before its dawn mate


2.) 23 Feb 2021 08:23:05
Stop being so level headed Wire! My Dad told me that just because someone shouts their argument doesn’t mean they’re right! Every time we lose and I come on here I just remember that oh and most of it is bollox anyway COYG.


3.) 23 Feb 2021 08:31:02
Would it be a better world where one poster wrote 1 positive post each week and everyone else Just copied and pasted it?

Should we all predict an Arsenal win no matter who we play before the game then all agree patience is needed should that game end in defeat?

Should we really all be Stepford fans and all feel, think and say the same things?

If a poster writes that Arteta is the best young manager in football should people not be allowed to question that posters views or do we all have to agree in order to be accepted as worthy of posting?

Oh and just out of interst once you created this sterile positive post only world what happens if at any point in the future be it in 1 2 of 3 years time what happens if one of your own positive posters start feeling negative about something and wishes to voice his feelings? 😀

Good luck with it all lads.


4.) 23 Feb 2021 08:59:51
But G62 I love the fact posters don`t have the same view as me . As much as I didn`t agree with Sy4 he at least made me think. Just coming on here and just moaning with the same old same old and not posting when we are doing well just gets boring. I don`t want to read beige it`s a banter site but just coming on here continually ranting eventually becomes beige in my eyes. Of course it`s not all sunshine and roses at the moment but being positive doesn`t necessarily mean positive posters aren`t aware of it. I just prefer a reasoned negative post to another rant COYG.

{Ed077's Note - But you have to remember Arsenal are now fighting for a top 10 position rather than top honours or at least a CL place. And having gone through a decade or so of challenging for and winning trophies some people are bound to be a bit too impatient and "negative" and hence a bit repetetive with their rants.


5.) 23 Feb 2021 09:48:10
G62 we are arguing the same point from different ends. Some dunce called me a bellend because I dared say that Villa defended very well against us. I have no problem with a good moan now and then, but when moaning is all there is, it becomes pointless to read.


6.) 23 Feb 2021 09:22:52
I guess so Ed077 but no team has a divine right to trophies! Ask Spurs! I like your dark and dawn quote, let`s hope so! I love that we are being negative about being positive :) Who`s your team Ed077? COYG.

{Ed077's Note - No team has a divine right to trophies, true mate but past success will always increase the expectation and impatience. Trying to have positive outlook on things is never bad but sometimes you have to face the truth/reality.

Manchester United's my team. We are going through a dark period ourselves mate


 

 

01 Feb 2021 23:50:59
I suppose a farewell is in order for Mustafi, Willock and Maitland-Niles.

Of these, I'm only sad to see Maitland-Niles go as, even though it's only a loan, I think he has the energy and the skill to be a good squad player for us. I am sad he never got a chance to really prove himself in central midfield, but if he can play well there for West Brom then maybe he'll get a shot at CM for us next season. Coolest penalty in the game.

Willock I thought played the Ramsey role really well for us in the cups, but despite his directness he never had Aaron's defensive awareness, skill and vision to make it in the league. Kept hoping he'd kick on and add more to his game but a permanent move in the summer looks likely. Newcastle will be good for him, they're crying out for runs from midfield.

Mustafi going is a relief. I don't think any other Arsenal player in history has cost us the number of points he did. Looks like a colossal waste of money and the beginning of the end for Wenger. I hated him for a while but wish him well now that I've had a while to cool off!

wire

1.) 02 Feb 2021 12:26:26
For me Mustafi letf it to late to change, I always felt he was lazy and looked for officials or team mates to do his job for him, always blaming someone else for his own mistakes and failings.
But funny enough under Arteta I felt he suddenly started taking responsibility for his own game, probably as a consequenceof being frozen out by Emery before Arteta arrived. Unfortunately for him he left it to late to change.


 

 

22 Dec 2020 22:40:43
Typed up my thoughts elsewhere but thought I'd put them here too. There is a root and branch change required. Unfortunately, one's just happened at the pleasure of the Kroenkes', with major sackings in important areas and no replacement. This means that nobody at the club has any genuine long-term vision for a style of play, transfer market approach, or youth policy except perhaps the only man who comes out of this looking good, Per Mertesacker.

We are effectively pulling a Sunderland, vulture capitalist style. After losing Cagigao, Mislintat, etc. for what, cost cutting reasons? Some kind of delicate power struggle? We panic buy mediocre or unproven players for huge sums (Mustafi, Xhaka, Willian by the time his wages have been paid, etc. ) , desperately trying to plug holes in a team that has no identity. The few excellent signings we make like Tierney and Gabriel are bright islands in a sea of confused sludge. The players we do sign typically have no resale value, partly because we make them look terrible when they actually do have talent (Pepe, Lacazette) and partly because our transfer policy has shifted bizarrely towards older players on their last legs (Willian again, Sokratis, Luiz) .

The club has clueless owners who have effectively handed power to people who talk a big game but have no practical experience. There's nothing wrong with bringing back ex-players for an identity, but they actually need to have proven expertise. Before Arsenal can rise again, they need to be prepared to give some power to someone with a vision, like Rangnick or Mislintat, but given how concentrated the power base has become around Edu, Arteta and Venkatesham, I doubt it will happen any time soon. I don't think we can trust the owners to understand what the right move is, because up to this point they have proven totally inept.
So. Kroenke out, basically.

wire

1.) 23 Dec 2020 12:42:55
Good analysis I for one totally agree the owners responses to the situation the club keeps finding itself is unrealistic the club was supposed to financially self sufficient however since Wengers departure we have completely been dragged through mud. When Wenger was here at least we made sense now we are a circus unless owners change. back room staff changes then give Arteta a season or too. But unless we change owners waste of time.


 

 

07 Oct 2020 01:55:14
Brilliant business proposition for the Arsenal, hear me out - renegotiate Ozil's contract, but instead of making his duties to render services on the pitch and be available for training, make him the club's charitable giving coordinator. That way his wages can be stipulated as tax deductible.

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02 Oct 2020 00:02:20
Interesting match. We were pretty dreadful in an attacking sense, absolutely no rhythm, but we asked one thing of Arteta when he joined, and that was to make us at the very least harder to beat.

Heard this today and agree with it, I am starting to think that his strategy against teams that like to use very high pressure, like City, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, is to invite the press as high up the pitch as possible, then try to sucker punch by playing out and quickly upfield with a few quick diagonal balls for an overload at the other end. We've scored basically all our goals and attempts against them like this, and unless we sign a top CM I don't think it will change very soon.

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22 Feb 2021 23:58:40
Not sure Arsenal are good enough to attract a better manager at the moment, especially considering the well documented struggles above Arteta in the chain of command. I think we should keep him to the end of the season at least.

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27 Jan 2021 22:52:22
I wouldn't mind seeing Gabriel or Mari given a go there either. Both seem very capable and it's a shame to exclude them when both are fit. I enjoyed Cedric's performance though. Saka can also play there, but we lose our best attacker.

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17 Jan 2021 21:16:45
Hah, got a good chuckle out of me Sharpe. Embarrassing stuff really.

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22 Dec 2020 00:24:40
Gosh, how Willian could possibly have an issue with the man playing him every week despite his truly atrocious performances is beyond me. I'd have dropped him to the bench for Pepe, Nelson or Smith-Rowe months ago now.

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18 Oct 2020 22:28:12
30m and an automatic starter for a decent Ligue 1 side, banished to the U23s. Could have gone to a bottom 5 PL team, or a championship team up until yesterday, could have gone back to France for a season. sigh. Meanwhile, Luiz with some abject defending again against City. Despite all the positive steps we've taken recently it always seems like a step back happens once a week.

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06 Mar 2021 23:44:07
Agreed D16. For some people it always comes back to the manager but I thought we set up quite well and the gameplan was good. The players need to have a good look at themselves and think about putting in the extra hours on the training ground, for me there is no excuse for Pépé to whiff from there, for example.

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06 Mar 2021 20:26:30
We should be fuming about that result but honestly I don't know how much of the stupid sh*t that happened on the pitch today can even be managed better except the Burnley goal. We created so many clear chances and ballsed them up at the last second. Don't get me started on the pen.

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04 Mar 2021 02:11:02
I like Pogba. With a good manager I think he'd be a top 3 mid in the league.

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04 Mar 2021 00:08:36
1. Foden for Willian
2. Pogba for Elneny
3. VVD for Luiz

I tend to prefer Arsenal signed younger players hence no KdB but you make a good point about Kane. I think Son is the better player, though.

With no restrictions I'd probably have picked Dias, Foden and KdB though. City really are just that good right now.

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03 Mar 2021 23:56:58
Doubt your lineups personally. I don't think we'll get Aouar, or Odegaard back, Guendouzi will probably go along with Laca, Nketiah, and potentially Nelson, Willock, Maitland-Niles, Bellerin, Willian, Chambers, Torreira and Elneny if they can find buyers. IF it were up to me, which it isn't, I'd try to rehabilitate Mavropanos, Torreira and Nelson, and sell the rest.

Bring Balogun (if he stays) , Azeez, Saliba, Osei-Tutu and Smith into the first team. Make Martinelli and Balogun the understudies to Auba. Push the boat out to sign Odegaard if we can, if not spend it on a high quality CM/ CAM who can compete with Xhaka or give ESR a rest. Bring in a young LB with potential. Bank the rest and spend it on tying down our best players to contracts.

IMO we are not getting anywhere near the top 4 this season and maybe not even the top 6. Take the opportunity to recruit well on the sly, let our brilliant youth players develop, and push hard for a CL spot next season. If we get into the CL, then that's the time to spend big and cement our place/ challenge for the title.

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