Arsenal Banter Archive February 14 2014

14 Feb 2014 20:58:22
Can some one please explain why the fa cup is our best chance of honours this season, because I'm missing something!

We are 2nd in the PL and one point behind with 36 pts to play for, we have come through a bad patch that others may yet experience, in fact at least two and maybe all 4 of our nearest rivals will have a bad run of results between now and mid May.

We are in the last 16 of the fa cup and face Liverpool next then even if we beat them ( maybe/maybe not) Chelski or city will be in the last 8:as will another 6 teams who want to emulate Wigan in a 90 min cup competition that's built on giant killing upsets.

What is it I'm missing about us and the fa cup this season more than any other season

The optimist will read your post and think we've got just as much chance winning the other cups.

The pessimist will think we ain't winning anything then.

Flybo

I think we have more reason to believe than for a long long time Flybo, we are contenders again and it was said a few weeks ago who ever finishes above city will be champion's.
I think we will finish above city this season

14 Feb 2014 22:31:40
G62, we are in the dreaded month of February when things have tended, bar last season, to go array, we drop points, fall out of cup competitions and the league becomes a forlorn hope.

We have injuries we could do without, we took a striker in the summer for free who we're still waiting to see play his 2nd game, we didn't buy Bender, we didn't buy Draxler but end up with a guy on loan who can't play until god knows when. We have taken a beating by Liverpool resulting in a failure to beat the cr4p that masquerades as Manchester United.

There is money in the kitty which makes it incomprehensible that we don't have Bender and Draxler making a squad fit for purpose.

Our £42 million dollar man is struggling to impose himself on games and a striker we love is driving us to despair with miss after miss.

We are willing this team to win something, the sense is palpable but 8 years and all of the above make it impossible for some to dare to believe we can over come all that and lift a trophy of any sort this year.

Based on similar reasons Jenny has stated. To win the FA cup will take 4 wins. 1 off games possibly against teams in lower leagues. To win the league would require consistency and a deep squad. 2 things we are currently lacking.

Jenny's post says it all.

We all want to win something this season, this is the most optimistic we have been for years and we are in our best position for years but our squad is down to the bare bones, our 2 best attacking players are injured and we have a congested fixture list that has "armageddon" written all over it.

And we have that inane ability to self-destruct.

14 Feb 2014 20:43:39
The other day I posted, on the back of a disappointing result against Man Utd, about Mesut Ozil, which got a mixed reaction from a few people who replied.

Now the dust has settled, let me explain.

I love him to bits, he is a great assist-maker and a terrific player. He makes very intelligent runs off the ball and pulls the opponents players around the pitch, thus creating space for his team-mates to exploit.

My biggest problem is, and I know the majority of you will disagree, but I do not, AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, think he is world class.

For me, world class are players like Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez and Aguero, to quote players who are in Prem League.

Ozil has always had class in front of him, Benzema, Ronaldo and Higuain to name but a few. They are class, which in turn makes him class because he supplies them, he makes them class with his assist's.

Unfortunately, he has Giroud in front of him, whom I love to bits, but he is not Aguero or Suarez, therefore Ozil suffers as a result of this.

Am I blaming Ozil for this? Of course not, its not his fault we do not have the same level of striker upfront that he is accustomed to.

Here is my problem with Ozil.
World class players win you matches. Countless times I have seen Real Madrid or Portugal playing poorly, but Ronaldo grabs the game by the scruff of the neck and scores one, two, sometimes three goals and they win the game.

The same applies to Messi. Barcelona play bad, admittedly not often, he goes looking for the ball and does something with it, IE, normally scores and win's the game.

Aguero the same. Suarez the game. Cruyff use to do it, Maradona use to do it, Pele did it with inhuman regularity.

My point? For an outlay of £42m I expect Ozil to do it more regularly. For me, if you are a class player and your front man is playing pants, than you get the ball, beat 2 or 3 players and you put the ball in the back of the net and you win the game. You change your game plan, you adapt and you do something about the result.

Im a Driving Instructor. Do I consider myself any good? do other people think I am any good?
Yes, I am very good because if my pupil is struggling to drive or do a manoeuvre or read the road, I don't just sit back and relax. I change things, I make that person aware of the situation, I take him/her back to their comfort zone, I explain what went wrong, how to deal with the situation better in the future, I do my best to make them understand the dangers of what they did and how to improve.

In other words I adapt my game to suit my pupil and my pupils ability.

If I was to classify myself, I would call myself a world class Driving Instructor because of my ability to adapt.

MR.Ozil, please do the same.

{Ed001's Note - this was by dagenham gunner. That ok for you mate?}

Dennis Bergkamp world class?
His first season in Arsenal shirt?
Mesut Ozil Germany 2010 in a young heavily inexperienced side?
For every negative there is a positive and the more class the player the easier its to find them.
Bergkamp class on grass, Ozil see Bergkamp.
The similarity's are chillingly exciting.
Lucky lucky us

DG,, for 42 big one's and with those mincers you would like to think he could hit the target more often than he has so far! more pressing matters afoot though. after leaving an estate.ly home on the wirral in some poor unfortunetes R S Turbo hot tailing it from the ensuing rossers,, when approaching a roundabout in the outside of 3 lanes at a velocious speed wishing to do a left hooker,, do I A cut accross 2 lanes whilst accelerating harder with an upturned finger to the inconsiderate slower drivers,, or B drop it down a gear an hook it right into oncoming traffic to try and lose my tail with a late change of plan,, or maybe C steal a more moderate vehicle like a volkswagon camper raising less suspicion alas allowing all road users and myself a more sedate and safe journey to my intended destination. P.S looking forward to the game between us on sunday. maybe i'll get the train down!

{Ed013's Note - WOW}

Lol Sizemick,

My best, and professional advice is choose any option, A, B or C as long as you use MSM, mirror, signal, manoeuvre.

PS, you can tell you are from Liverpool, lol.

Thank's Ed001, true gent as always.

{Ed001's Note - only when I am drunk mate, and I am teetotal.....}

G62,

I personally think Bergkamp's first season at Arsenal was more successful than Ozil's, thus far.

He scored 11 goals in 33 games and had 14 assist's in first season.

Like I said, I'm not slating Ozil and I love that he's a Gooner but in certain games, I repeat, in certain games, I expect more.

Got you there DG, beckenham born an d bred, still here too. just lent into a few pre-concieved ideologies (is that a word? ) aided with a lucid imagination I tried to tap into a scenario or two which may have crossed your mind on a few occasions over the years whilst teaching as I know from a couple of friends how frustrating driving instruction can be with certain persons. you need duel control, self control but you should be allowed a level of totally out of control just to spice the day up a tad!
been a supporter of liverpool since aged 7 the year that bra wearing hippie legend of yours smashed 1 past clemence in extra time at wembley 1971. good luck on sunday mate, I can't see a clean sheet for either side. plenty of attacking stylish va va voom football by both teams with goals galore is what's best served on a sunday.

14 Feb 2014 19:39:43
Oh jose you are a tease. But you do lack class.

14 Feb 2014 18:42:42
If city were to lose at home again to Chelski and then lose or draw against Barcelona! What does this do to their confidence/ self belief and how do they cope after so much praise that's been heaped on them by pundits who now question them and look to demolish what they helped to build?

Putting my rose colour pundit spectacles on: it would be a blessing in disguise.

14 Feb 2014 18:23:40
Jose giving it the big 1 about AW.
HOW FU••ING DARE HE!
AW has done a lot 4 this club but stick by him lads!
Our boys wil dig deep 4 the title!. and all going well we beat the in the cup!
Get behind our team and keep the faith. peace

14 Feb 2014 20:06:43
The clown spent 100's of millions to win two titles, the man is a complete word I hate.

Jenny, how much has Wenger been paid in the past 8 years, 8 months and 24 days only to win nothing at all?

Does that failed investment make you think of a word you like? :)

14 Feb 2014 17:27:31
Hiya guys lfc fan here how strong a side do you guys think you will field with your upcoming cl games and league run in ill be honest I aren't too fussed if we get a win or not wouls be nice but league has to be priority for us and got to say I always love the fact wenger gives moaninho and tells it straight the english press lick jose's nether regions because he's a walking cliche machine lol but wenger tells it like it is I wish brendan would but I think he's thankful for the chance he gave him and he loans us hus rubbish

Hi Gibs,

I think wenger will rest a few players with Champs league game in mind.

I think he will play Carl Jenkinson, Monreal, Flamini, plus Sanogo and Bendtner might get a run out.

Hi dags hope your well I watch jenkinson sometimes he looks like he's going to be great others he looks dodgy I te
the first time I watched him I thought wenger genius done it again found a diamond for a mill and half then same season around the time you got the bad result at united 8 2 or sonething like that he looked awful lol

Gibs, hope you are good too mate.

Yep, Jenks is very hit and miss but he does give 100% every game, decent player, IMO.

But you are correct, when he plays bad, boy does he play bad, lol.

14 Feb 2014 16:24:39
way to unite all arsenal fans mourinho.

branding arsene a specialist in failure, when no one (and I mean NO ONE!) has done what arsene has done in his career.

talk about how we haven't won a title in almost a decade. fine. but to directly insult wenger?. tad unclassy isn't it?


Ed's you don't have to post that last bit. I just remember I was talking about class and chelsea in the same sentance!

Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt.
Flybo

Why waste time with him? Let's just get about our business.

As much as I hate Jose he has only stated the truth unfortunately, Wenger has failed to bring us any sort of trophy for to long now. I do believe this should be Wengers last season we need a change a freshen up of how we play . Sitting there watching us on wed just knocking the ball around in triangles was killing me I'd rather have little Of the ball and hit 15-20 shots rather than keep the ball in midfield and have 2-3 shots we have no plan B, C or anything else . I'm not being doom and gloom I will support us till the end but unfortunately we have seen this before no killer instinct and sometimes no desire to win games! I hope the next two games convince me we can really make a challenge but if honest we all know we're still a few players short and who's fault is that?
Two windows Wenger has failed to buy where we really needed it and if we don't win a trophy this year he has to be held accountable its simply not good enough. Lots of people saying we are 2nd still in both cups cheer up if you pay £1200 a year to watch them you would expect a little more just like I do!
Really hope we get some revenge on sat and save our season from slipping away!

Ill disregard all posts by you on potential players, our squad and such ey flybo?

:P

hows about the IDEA that mourinho hasn't a clue?

GoonerInk.
You misunderstand my point. The point of that saying is Mourinho attacks people and gets personal. Where as Wenger never gets personal and talks about ideals and the bigger picture. The saying attacks those that get in to petty name calling, and general crudeness.
Flybo

Oh yeah, sorry mate I thought you were directing it at me haha!

i have no doubt that wenger knew what he was doing when he said 'chelsea are top, its theirs to lose'

he knew it would make mourinho want to rebuke, but that's not the same as a) directly calling him out and b) insulting the modern game by saying the man who is probably guilty of taking football away from its working class roots and raising it to a whole new level, if you include things not scrutinized by the media, such as training regimes, media profiling, and maintaining a successful club without debt.

14 Feb 2014 15:34:22
Financial figures released.

Only a hundred and twenty mil in the bank doing nothing.

Of course we couldn't possibly have spared £55m for Suarez

Good piece on a website today illustrauting just how crap Gipooh is.

14 Feb 2014 12:19:48
Any truth in the rumours AW is going to rest a few of the stars for this FA cup clash against L'pool
COYG

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

It's funny because he'll be resting players and bringing in players that actually I want to see more of. Gnabry right, Podolski left, Rosicky and Ox in the middle, with Flamini holding. I'd be happy with that. Bendtner will probably play upfront. We should of bought a, Oh I can't be asked.
Flybo

Striker?

Hrs resting them for that champions league game, which of course we have every chance of winning

14 Feb 2014 07:42:59
Banter Please;
Liverpool fan - I come in peace.
Just like Dagenham Gunner did on our page, I'm going to ask the same question.

With the current fluctuating form of your team; realistically what position do you think you would finish? I need realistic answers from honest hearts who feel for the team and can analyze based on current forms.

As for our next match, may the best team win again! Although this time I feel Arsenal will give us a very torrid time on the pitch.

I await your response, Arsenal faithfuls. Have fun.

O'seunfunmi

I reckon we'll finish in 3rd - 1 point above Liverpool and about 5 off Chelsea and City, who will be very close to each other.

Im going to listen to my heart and my head a little bit. We have had 2 previous 'poor' results this season, and both times we have bounced back to go on a winning run of form. Just like the drubbing from City, our next game played a bore 0-0 with Chelsea. The drubbing from Liverpool then gave us a bore 0-0 with United, same patterns emerging. Therefore I feel we will go on another run of form, and if this form does appear in the next few games we will hopefully be beating our challengers! For this reason, i'm still going to say we can win it!
Seriously though, I really hope Liverpool finish top 4 because I honestly think they deserve it.

I can see us fighting 3rd/4th with Liverpool

Mate, i'm going to give the same answer I did on Liverpool page.

I think we will finish 4th, Livpool 3rd and 1st and 2nd will be a fight off between Man City and Chelsea.

There are many twists and turns to come and and bad spells for teams to come so I've Been through the fixtures and
1 chelski or Arsenal
3 city
4 Liverpool or spurs
Is what I really think and it will be settled on GD, plus I think spurs might just make 4th real battle