Arsenal Banter Archive July 25 2015

25 Jul 2015 21:13:46
Judging by today's performance, we will win the league by at least 20 points.

(Double smiley face).

25 Jul 2015 23:42:22
Only 20 dags......I think the triple is on asia cup Emirates cup and charity shield.

26 Jul 2015 08:33:50
That's what I like to see Steve.

Positivity :-)

26 Jul 2015 08:52:40
Regardless of anything I think the hunger and intensity that we have played friendly or not has been amazing.

26 Jul 2015 15:01:02
If we beat chelsea next the belief in players of winning the league will only increase..

25 Jul 2015 18:32:04
What happened to that youngster we signed last year the cdm thought we might o seen him in preseason

25 Jul 2015 20:18:26
Good question. Although i think he is only 18.. you mean beilik.

25 Jul 2015 20:30:07
Bielik. me too crybaby been wanting to have a good look at him

26 Jul 2015 09:01:12
Also where is zelalem? He was supposed to be our next big thing. And is Gnabry still injured?

26 Jul 2015 12:15:17
I don't know but maybe he wants to send them out on loan?

25 Jul 2015 18:05:49
6 0 now we are beating them with ease just hope Wenger don't think our team is complete though still think we need at least 2 players

25 Jul 2015 23:44:57
Hes putting the cheque book away for the year now. Jobs a gud un. Here we go.

25 Jul 2015 17:59:38
So Wales and Austria will face off in the World Cup Qualifier. Never been to Wales might be worth a trip.
If I make it I hope someone is willing to go for a couple of beer

25 Jul 2015 17:14:25
4-0 half time, iwobi looks like he can make the step up, Ramsey and ozil are looking excellent again, hopefully both can carry on into the season.

25 Jul 2015 18:07:03
Who is iwobi never heard of him before today

25 Jul 2015 19:28:26
He's a winger, but can be played central, he's done well in the under 18s games I seen him in.
He's got bags of pace, and good ball control, if he can grow his confidence some more he should get a few games.

25 Jul 2015 19:39:27
I think he's made the step up. To pre season friendlies that is just like akpom did with his hat trick. The trick is now can they make the huge, massive step up to real football in the prem league. We will see.

25 Jul 2015 16:56:31
I feel from time to time that I'm the only one on Girouds side. I just feel that without his injury he could have gotten 20 goals last season and keeping in mind that he has improved every season he might if fit get 23 this season. Also sweet goals from him and the ox right now.
Maybe its good that I'm not our coach. Also agree that he needs a better challenge for the spot I just don't want him to be replaced just like that
Damn 3-0 now we are ripping them to peaces
özil looks a beast

25 Jul 2015 17:22:48
No Viennese I rate giroud and he could get 20 a season. I just think at times we need someone quicker through the middle. Our style of play suits having a quick CF. I would be extremely happy if we got reus and then for a plan B to giroud you could play alexis, theo, welbeck or reus up front as we have an abundance of talent that can cover attacking midfield whilst they play CF.

25 Jul 2015 17:45:01
I know what you're saying, but he's just uninspiring.
I know I'll get a bit of stick for that, but the point is, a centre mid, or a centre back, a keeper or a fullback, these positions can all have players who are boring, but still great.

You don't want a CB who's flamboyant.
You want him to be strong, alert, clever.
If he's boring, but he's helping clean sheets, I'll take him.

Wingers, Striker and No.10's, need to have an Xfactor to play for a big club.

Özil has that.
Alexis has that.

Giroud doesn't.
He's not going to win a foot race.
He's good in the air, but so are most defenders.
He's strong, but so are most defenders.

If you can't find Giroud in space, or get a good ball to him in the air, he's isolated and lost.

Someone like the now inevitably linked Benzema, provides multiple options.
He's ok in the air, not great but ok.
He can hold up play quite well.
He's fast, so can get beyond the man.
He's fairly strong.
He also picks up a lot of assists.

Someone like him is a dream for Özil.
At the moment, if he's finding Giroud, it has to be in the air, or to feet.

But when he's finding Walcott/Welbeck/Alexis/Ox, he can ping a ball a bit further forward, he knows that he can put a little distance on the ball, and really test the defenders.

Giroud is by no means, a bad option.
He just shouldn't be our first option.

{Ed025's Note - im with you D..

25 Jul 2015 19:34:49
Is Benzema fast. It must be deceiving because he sure doesn't look like a speed demon to me

25 Jul 2015 22:59:48
I suppose fast is subjective.
If you're comparing him to Walcott, Aubameyang, Aguero, then of course, he's not up there.

If you compare him to Giroud, Rooney, possibly even Diego Costa, then yeah, he's pretty quick.

But regardless, he possesses a turn of pace that Giroud doesn't.
Yes, we have a pacey striker in welbeck, but he's still not clinical enough.

Benzema possesses the necessary attributes to succeed in the premier league.
He'd suit our style of play to a tee as well.

It's all if bits and maybes, till (if) we sign a striker anyways.

26 Jul 2015 10:03:24
The best think about Benz is that he's played for a huge club and played the biggest games in big stadiums with plenty of pressure. That sort of experience is priceless

25 Jul 2015 13:36:31
David James has dug out Cech a few times now! I'm not been funny but please mr James you were rubbish in net

25 Jul 2015 14:10:32
Agreed James was useless

I do agree with him hear me out first.

From a financial perspective - Chelsea did pretty well. They got real strong money for an ageing keeper with close to his best years behind him while replacing him for less money with a younger yet very very good keeper.

From our perspective - we need a world class keeper who can impact the team this year and next. We have a good young keeper coming through. We need that Seaman-like keeper, even if just for the next two years due to age. A keeper used to EPL, winning trophies but also capable of doing nothing for 89 minutes then needed to be alert to save a game. Lower league keepers are always busy so easier to look good. We also needed experience between the sticks to calm us down and organise corners etc. Cech ticked every box and was worth paying for.

James is looking at it from a finance perspective - Cech is a great signing but it was a good bit of business for Chelsea

25 Jul 2015 15:48:57
I agree with 80% of that Sy!

But was it really a good deal for Chelsea?
(I'm not calling you out here by the way, I just enjoy debating points with people, or, as the people in my life will tell you, I'm getting miserable before my time)

Yes, he's getting on, and if they'd got £11m for a 33 year old striker, winger or defender, I'd be agreeing with you there too, cracking deal.

Cech has 4 years or so where he can still be top class, minimum. (I know class is subjective)
Look at Buffon, 38 and still great, not his former glory, but he's still up there.
Of course, he could do a casillas and rapidly deteriorate with age (I think Iker had a confidence issue personally)

As you say, we've get a top class keeper, with experience and great qualities you want in a keeper.
Chelsea replaced him with a decent keeper, but nowhere near the quality of cech.
If Thibaut got injured, they'd be left worse off than last year.

If anything, they've potentially weakened their position!

25 Jul 2015 16:29:29
Well I hope James is a better financial advisor than he was a keeper. The bit that got me was he said we would have been better off getting bergovic. Cech has a good five years look at van der Sar

25 Jul 2015 12:14:44
Could this be our front line this season:

Sanchez, Ozil, Reus and Benzema

That would certainly be an interesting attacking option which every defence would struggle to contain

Happy if Isco could join and add something special to our attack also :)

Now I am getting a little carried away but 120m would transform our team - now I know how lucky City and. Chelsea have been for the last 8 years

Come on AW - let's spend big with money the CLUB generated and show our model works

25 Jul 2015 12:46:40
If he spends big then all what he has done by trying to build a squad wouldn't work

25 Jul 2015 13:38:22
We added Sanchez and Ozil - that worked

We promoted from within also - that worked

But the squad expects to win the league and that keeps the squad together

Wenger has always promoted from within and supplemented with improvements in the transfer window - I just want that same balanced approach but with two killer signings - Reus and Benzema or Isco and cavani or Aubameyang

We lost good player due to lack of trophies - two additions like that would help us win and keep our STAR players

25 Jul 2015 14:09:34
If reus benzema and Isco wouldn't work Stephen then I don't know what would. Nice little dream sy4 it would do the trick

25 Jul 2015 15:30:05
I didn't say they wouldn't I said he will not spend over 100mill on players in 1 season

25 Jul 2015 09:38:16
I've got a funny feeling we won't get a striker it's more than likely going to be a winger hopefully in the mould of Isco and wenger will play Walcott more as a striker and say it's like a new striker with akpom as a back up

{Ed025's Note - if you are right 50gun, then i believe it could cost you the title mate..

25 Jul 2015 09:56:00
Unless the winger is marco reus ed

{Ed025's Note - i like reus brow, but for me wingers are far from the problem, its been speculated that arsene has £200m to spend, well throw £80m of that on benzema and the title is coming home for me mate..but maybe thats just me..

25 Jul 2015 10:49:43
For 80 million ed I would like to think we could buy Benzema and reus. 35 Benz 45 reus. Then let the party start. Regardless of what wenger or Harris says we have the money to do that and get pogba

{Ed025's Note - the money is there brow, its getting them to spend it thats the hard bit!..i think benzema will cost a lot more than £35m though mate..

25 Jul 2015 11:01:24
Totally agree ED025. The problem with the vehicle is the gearbox, so it is the gearbox that needs replacing, not the radiator lol

We can have wingers from planet Nibiru, but as long as we have mediocrity as our striker, we will always struggle

{Ed025's Note - thats my bag as well rue mate..

25 Jul 2015 11:15:13
Well I hope wenger is going to Suprise us ed.

{Ed025's Note - i hope so too mate..

25 Jul 2015 12:49:44
I would love Benz and reus but still need a cdm who would you go for ed

{Ed025's Note - i never said this..but mccarthy is excellent mate.. :)

25 Jul 2015 15:38:36
Personally, Lewandowski would be my first choice were he to become available.I think Lewandowski would be a fantastic signing. Would love him in our team. I would be delighted with Benzema . Any of those two and I think we would have a fighting chance of the league this season .

24 Jul 2015 23:04:34
So who plays in Sanchez place in the opening game? Welbeck Ox Theo or does Arsene change the system he preferred during last seasons run in to accommodate Jack?
If we don't sign anyone before deadline day

A which way will Arsene go?
B which way would you go?

25 Jul 2015 05:50:49
Probably Ozil on left with Ramsey n Cazorla in the middle with Ox/Walcott on the right..
Giroud
Ozil. Cazorla Ramsey Walcott/ox
Coqualan

25 Jul 2015 11:04:04
Ideally Ox on the right, Ozil Santi and Coq in midfield, Walcot upfront and Welbeck on the left

But Wenger will probably have Ozil on the left, Santi Jack and Coq in the middle, Giroud upfront and Rambo on the right wing

25 Jul 2015 13:15:12
Giroud
Ozil. Cazorla Ramsey Jack Walcott/ox
Coqualan