Arsenal Banter Archive January 03 2015

03 Jan 2015 22:05:40
Everton naaaa.

{Ed025's Note - im with you DG..

Wigan 2013? Much stranger things have and will again happen in the fa cup

{Ed025's Note - but they had a good manager G62.. :)

Fair point Ed I hadn't considered that, but mind you we won it last year so you still have a cgance :-)

Think who their manager was at the time G62.

03 Jan 2015 21:27:05
Guys,

Me and my friend he's a gooner (yes we are still friends) were having a argument a while back on who was the keeper with a better future ahead of him De gea or shez, he was dead set shez was although I argued this to the extreme, I was wondering what your guys thoughts we're?

My man moon has written a very good article on De gea I suggest u read it. So my second question is (because I think I no the answer to my first question) is how far do u think De gea can go, wether it be with us or elsewhere.

{Ed025's Note - he needs to move to further his career chris, i really rate the guy, he is in the limelight at the moment because your defence is so crap, i think if he moved to a bigger club he could become world class..

03 Jan 2015 22:58:47
Hi Chris,

De Gea wins in every department mate.

Decision making, shot stopping, ball handling, distribution, commanding his area, one on one's.

I think he is (possibly) the best in the Prem, but I can only see him in a Madrid shirt within the next 2 years.

04 Jan 2015 00:28:13
Obviously I disagree on the moving parts ed lol but your I do think he will move albeit thus summer or a few years down the line.

Thanks for the reply dags, my new years resolutions are to stop being a tot to u guys u have your own worries.

Ain't the right renoog yurbnab

I think 2 years ago and last year, Shezza had the upper hand Chris. But it seems he is not maturing as a player. De Gea has grown in leaps and bounds especially this season. You guys better get your fly swatters out mate, the big "flies" are going to be hovering any minute

Im with rue
De Gea 18 monthes ago he was a poor decision maker, god knows what's happend, but he is one of the best in the league now.
Chris I don't think your problems are much better than ours mate, You have had a very lucky run of wins, i'm sure you will agree

04 Jan 2015 10:42:58
I won't disagree to much lol, however I do think to put a unbeaten run as long as ours solely down to luck wrong.

Chris
You had more luck then a team of 11 leprechauns,

Also the leprechaun had a rabbit's foot in their pocket and a 4 leafed clover clipped to their shirt

03 Jan 2015 20:39:57
So who will win the fa cup?
Its Everton for me

{Ed025's Note - we cant even win an argument at the moment G62...get on the hammers to do us on tuesday mate..

03 Jan 2015 21:10:58
I reckon Liverpool and Everton final, with Howard Webb as referee.

So, Manchester United to win than :-)

{Ed025's Note - cant see it dags..

Ed025

It would take a saint not to be stoked with the fog on the tyne having been to hull and back. ☹


Kind Regards


YNWA

{Ed025's Note - good stuff mick,...i have to say i was embarrassed to be a scouser last week, we were mullered by hull and leicester took your shower to school at analfield, we both have a fraud at the helm mate..merseys*ite..

Martinez came out of the blocks quickly Ed with you and with the Thursday night league has struggled this season premier league wise.
But he's 18 months in and I think a silver lining will appear for you and him this season mate, I'll remind you in May where you heard it first :-)

{Ed025's Note - thats if hes still with us mate, rumours are that he has lost the dressing room..which could be the start of the end G62..

03 Jan 2015 22:51:45
Ed,

Can you seriously see Kenwright sacking Martinez?
I don't think its the Everton way.

Sure, Everton have been dire this season, but BK does give his managers time.

Your lot remind me of Arsenal.
Howard to Baines, Baines to Coleman, Coleman to Barkley, Barkley to Jags, Jags to Baines, Baines to Pienaar, Pienaar to Barry, Barry back to Baines.

Lots of passes, very little offensive play.
You have a £28m striker who doesn't see the ball very often.

I think Martinez is copying Wenger :-)

{Ed025's Note - im afraid they are still playing tika-tacka football dags which is out of date now..the pressing game that bayern play is the way forward mate..

Liverpool. Stevie g's birthday on cup final day. Football gods have a habit of throwing up things like this.

03 Jan 2015 19:16:44
So are we to say

Arsene Wenger is a liar?

He claims Podolski is injured?? How does he pass a medical if he is injured?

Other news
Sanogo off to france

Thank the lord

{Ed002's Note - There is still another option for Sanogo.}

03 Jan 2015 19:59:33
So we lost the match against Southampton because Wenger refused to play some players.
Podolski, Sanogo, Campbell.

whats wrong the AW?

ED

Get him selling Hot Dogs

Sonogo is terrible. Said it so many times he won't make it here

Ajz

Let's be fair that isn't why we lost the game though is it.

Shezza was the key ingredient

Understand what you are saying though

03 Jan 2015 20:46:27
Give over guys - these players would not have made the difference

Not sure Wenger lied - may be Pod was not fit to play or may be he is just lazy.

Here's a quote for you.

“I am happy that Podolski has left Cologne,” Vogts said. “He had too many friends in the city. He got praised as a great runner if he ever got back to defend three times in a game.""

“He got an easy ride and he believed his own publicity. But now he has a coach at Arsenal in Arsene Wenger who will make him work hard in training as well as matches.

“If Podolski fails to train properly twice or three times he won’t get games. That is the way to develop him into a true professional.”

He is a great finisher but was neither a winger, number 10 or striker.

He should not get in front of Santi etc

Sorry he has gone but he needed to up his game in training and on the pitch

SY4

Wenger said Podolski is injured, not a chance.

If he isn't happy with his attitude wenger should say.

Why say he is inured? My guess is he likes everyone to think he is in control

Vermalen passed a medical

03 Jan 2015 21:19:33
How do you know he was match fit?

Why would he slag off a player in the press if he is trying to sell or loan him out? He is an asset with a resale value

Good point about TV5!

SY4

He is in the squad for their next game, Wenger s a liar FULL BLOODY STOP

I can't stand the man

03 Jan 2015 15:50:11
I'm pretty sure we'll see a DM and a CB plus maybe a striker too in January, why?
Because the lid on Arsene's criticism proof shelter has been completely blown off this season and getting it any where close to fitting back on is going to take some doing.
The uafa cup is calling loud and clearfor us and most frightening of all for Arsene is spurs are very much in contention to replace us in the champions league, something that will provoke demonstration's and protests that will make the West brom banner the Stoke railway station and Southampton one man invasion look like a welcoming committee.
The clock is ticking and it may well be now or never time for Arsene

Lol. we will not be signing anyone G62 except Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil and Diaby

It will be his biggest gamble ever if he does nothing Rue, does he cut the red wire then then the blue or is it blue then the red, in all that security he's been surrounded by for so long can he remember?
This one may really go to the wire

Haha true G62. The thing is we are in much more of a state this year than we normally are mid-season. I think even Wenger knows what a gamble it is to leave our current squad without adequate backup. I can imagine us signing at least one, probably a CB, maybe even on loan.

03 Jan 2015 14:36:28
So Podolski in Italy to discuss a 6 month loan deal.

Clearly Wenger is thinning the wages, is this to get someone in?

No the wages go to towards Wenger's bonus for getting us into the Europa league.

C'mon G62, give him a chance!

We have spent heavily on Ozil and Sanchez in recent windows so show some faith (at least for a couple more weeks)

Sorry 62

You are correct lol

337

You are right we have, but those were SUMMER windows, Wenger thinks the Winter window shut be banned.

He won't spend big in this one.

Trust me

03 Jan 2015 12:39:58
I think we should offer jenkinson to West Ham United on a permanent deal as a straight swap for Winston Reid.

Surely that would be good deal for both clubs as they will probably lose him in the summer.

337
that makes a lot of sense, but I think they will want a few quid too

03 Jan 2015 14:30:49
Think I read we wanted 8m for Jenko and Winston Reid would be half that now he's on his last 6 months

Reid is out of contract soon so they would take that deal I'm sure, forgetting the money I think that would be a good swap

03 Jan 2015 17:15:49
Jenkinson is a talented RB who benefits immensely from his increased game time at West Ham now, but he's actually a gooner. Perhaps it's just the romantic in me wishing to reward those who love the club they play for, but I would object strongly to getting rid of him. If we could extend his loan deal to lure West Ham into giving us Reid, I'd take that, but that's unlikely; and regardless, I see Jenkinson as ideal cover for Debuchy, with a view to making him Debuchy's replacement about two years from now. By that point, it should be Bellerin getting loaned out to gain more experience. Chambers doesn't have the physique or pace to be a full-back. Looks most like a CB who could cover at CDM really. I'm sure he'll also be a very talented one one day.

03 Jan 2015 10:58:46
Many people on this site repeatedly mention how we need to sign an established CDM (maybe two), a new keeper (chezney not experienced enough and his judgment is poor as demonstrated at s'hampton) a new left back (Gibbs door hold the defensive mentality to make our defence a solid bank of four, bombs forward without thinking about the consequence, and nacho seems very average in both departments, defending and attacking), two centre backs, one world class, one back up (we all know we need another cb as it is without him even being a starting 11 player and then we need to replace mertz, who looked slightly better after liverpool but is on the way down from here imo) chambers will then move across to cb cover while hector deb are both promising right backs. with world class attacking mids we will then be okay in that department as I pray ozil hits form next upon return. finally we need a poacher, a goal scorer, welbeck for me is our best front man who works so hard, has pace but as we have seen just doesn't score enough, this is a knack some players have and others don't. giroud, I'm a big fan of his and think he has improved a lot since his transfer several years ago, he is very good target/ hold up man. but again not a goal scorer, so we also need a new striker if we are to challenge for an trophy we want to, which is what the old arsenal did. my major concern!: all the player required listed above are going to cost a whole lot of money but we need them and the players we offload are not going to get any money hardly, but will decrease the wage bill a lot. this leads me to the point it will take two or three years to bring this personal in due to FFP, Wenger claiming the certain player isn't on the market or isn't the right one and our owner not willing to sanction the heafty price of becoming challengers for every trophy. 2 or 3 seasons and we will be lucky to get half of these players, trust me! And by this time kos will be getting quite old (might lose a bit of his pace he is regarded for) sanchez will only have 2 years at his best left, deb will be getting on. so my concern is more players are going to be have to be brought in after the others I mentioned are brought in if we are to see some years of success. on the basis of all this I think wenger can see this and will become overwhelmed by the task of recruitment and will retire at the end of the season, especially if we don't get the 4th placed trophy! furthermore this job of recruitment is a giant task for even the best of managers so we need to prepare for the seasons ahead because we will defeintly be dropping down from the 4th place we are known for before we rise back unto 2nd or 1st. very negative I know but wenger has let the club slip in the last 8 years by not replacing big players with other big player things big managers do.

03 Jan 2015 10:53:34
Right first things first WHY DID WE NO RE-SIGN FABREGAS- cas we have to many CM- Maybe but how many of them actually spend more time injured than playing - WILSHIRE RAMSEY DIABY ROSICKY- leaving cazorla chambelin flamini and the player I believe makes so many mistakes ARTETA - also tell me how FABREGAS is not better than all them! SECOND how many other premier league managers go into the season with only 2 CB'S surely we have a youth player with great prospects who could of done a better job than playing MONREAL out of posision THIRD what has PODOLSKI done wrong great goal ratio loves the club strong physical and interacts with fans OHH YH everything arsenal don't look for.Now this rumour page might aswell be shut down in january cas everyone knows we won't buy anyone cas we won't pay over the odds so every rumour is a dream. we all know what we need. who we want. but let's just be destroyed drained and physically worn out by the fact that we will never change as a club no one will come in injuries will continue and we will do well to scrape 4th! NOT ACCEPTABLE AS A GUNNER.
atleast we got a team that will suit us in the last 16 of the CL. THANKS ARSENE

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

At the time when Fabregas was available we had Ozil, JW, Cazorla, and Sanchez on his way so to sign cesc would have been a bad move in that position, plus the fact that he was not playing well, you need to ask why Barca let him go?

I agree that right now he would be an asset but I personally am happy that we used that money to get Alexis as we could not have had both

The money spent on Chambers could have been saved and contributed towards Cesc .

BG, I think we already have a defensive crisis, another defender less and another slight attacking midfielder more would not make sense.

Plus Cescs wages are massive and we are already in trouble with wages breaching FFP.

My point was that 'at the time' cesc was available it was not right for us

You are talking about the here and now, I am talking about pre season

and for me Chambers was a blunder, if any recalls I have said that from the outset and seen NOTHING to change my mind.

BUT it has to be blamed on Wenger for trying to play him in 107 different positions.

Stop exaggerating BG it was 106 positions! :-)

Yep

You are correct.

Apologies :)

03 Jan 2015 10:34:17
I believe that arsenal would turn into liverpool without wenger. Not only do I believe we will struggle to replace him but we would be inconsistent in qualifying for the champions league unless the board actually backed our next manager. There is no manager out there who would consistently quality for the champions league after moving into a new stadium and being under the financial constraints he was under. Although I an disappointed that we have not actually challenged for the title this year but hopefully next year we will after proper investment. I feel that is why arsenal fans are not happy, we are not challenging at all and are really a poor 4th place not a creditable 4th place. I just hope wenger is given time and money to give us what we deserve which is a genuine title challenge. In January I hope for a centre back like howedes, a cdm like Morgan Schneiderlin and hopfully a goalkeeper or striker. I can see a big signing being pulled off someone like cavani or pedro joining us. Have faith

Steve I think we already resemble Liverpool mate, the Graham Souness Liverpool.
Going no where at best and downhil our most likely destination.

Totally agree
good pods Steve

We are out of the period of our financial restrictions. We have a top squad that Wenger does not know how to utilise. He has left us woefully short in a number of positions this year and is tactically clueless. We play the same way every week and are naive enough to think it will work. We over work players, over train players to the extent they break down 3 months into the season every year. He has no concept of individual player management.

So let's not go on about past achievements. We are a financially stable club now. There is no excuse anymore. Wenger is done as a top rate manager.

The reality is, he will get the time you are talking about because he dictates everything that goes on at our club. He will go when he says he will go and the club will not argue with that.

So enjoy another 2.5 years of this garbage my friend because it isn't changing until he is gone.

Roll on 2017.

Pedro iI wouldn't be over the moon with. Cavani yes. Other managers can do a better job tho.

We mirror Liverpool already

To be honest we have seen a greater degree of tactical variation this season than in any previous season I can remember. Just hasn't worked.

The main 2 problems have been over poor fitness management and the subsequent soft tissue injuries. This is of course linked to the lack of players in critical positions (DCM and CB) made yet worse because it is off the back of a World Cup year.

To be honest if we make those signings in January then think we'll be okay. The fact we have moved to get Poldi off the books suggests to me we will.

Just to clarify, yet again - we are not out of financial restrictions, our wages are breaching FFP and if you want big signings they have big wages.

I agree with the tactics though, they need to change we are getting found out far too often!

I realise we still have FFP to worry about but so does everyone else. The debt from the stadium does not effect the squad anymore so in essence our own personal financial restrictions are over.

{Ed002's Note - It is not that simple of course.}

I understand that Ed. My point is more based around the fact that we don't have to sell our best players every season now like we used too. 'Restrictions' probably wasn't the correct word to describe that.

However, there's no excuse now. We have spent a fair bit of money on the squad in the last two summer windows and we should be performing a lot better with this squad than we are doing. That is down to AW.

02 Jan 2015 17:06:39
Ed025,

My Mum always said to me "a nice cup of tea solves all problems".

Well, just had a cuppa and Everton are still sh*te.

Please explain, lol.

{Ed025's Note - we are awful at the moment dags, and its nothing that a cup of typhoo will put right..

03 Jan 2015 10:29:42
True Ed,

Have heard rumblings that BK could be thinking of offloading RM.

Can't see it myself, but you never know.

Whats with the short hand Dags? Please explain?

Is it "Burger King" offloading "Royale Meals"? If it is I'm straight down there.

Anyway i've heard that SG are thinking of selling PW to FH and that would mean that GR will be available for DW to buy :-P

03 Jan 2015 12:16:56
337,

025 understands lol.

The you know the bookies have us as favorites to make F A new signings

So did I dags, Bill Kenright and Roberto Martinez.

02 Jan 2015 23:32:19
Freecycle advertisement;
One useless tosser that has an expired sell by date of 2005. is free to collect. Was good when in date, but now only spouts crappy excuses.
Will even throw in a bunch of sick-notes.
Be careful though: He claims to be an expert and unchallengeable (arrogant), because he has been in the business for over 30 years.
Probably best use for him is to stuff him and turn him into an idol for worship by a small number of myopic followers.

03 Jan 2015 08:12:48
Thanks for the offer mate but Mourinho and Chelsea suit each other to a tee so for me he can stay there. The bitter whining moaning clown.

Red
I can't wait for a manager to shake his hand 2 minuites to go,
Spot on