Arsenal Banter Archive June 07 2014

07 Jun 2014 23:21:12
Does anyone know if we're in talks with Bayern over Schweinsteiger? I have a feeling he could be coming.

{Ed002's Note - Is it a damp feeling?}

Best. Reply. Ever.

07 Jun 2014 22:10:17
So. every name we have been linked with in the past 6 months is unavailable or in talks with other clubs.ed. please let us know if there is hope!

{Ed002's Note - The club has been trying to get a goalkeeper in with an offer for Marshall (rejected) and discussions with St Et for Ruffier.}

07 Jun 2014 20:37:52
Just like the breakdown car in a a Top Gear Christmas special that no boby wants to have to drive I feel Remy to Arsenal closing in, Com'on Arsene get your transfer tool kit out and get this window going and put some real distance between us and HIM!

07 Jun 2014 23:13:23
So you wouldn't be happy with say Ruffier, Aurier/Richards, Shneiderlin, Greizman and Remy? I would be chuffed with that

07 Jun 2014 23:44:30
I have always said the 4 same players and going to stick with them.

Aurier (RB)

Schneiderlin (DM)

Griezman (LW)

Remy (ST)

That will do for Dags.

08 Jun 2014 12:01:31
What about the GK Dags?

08 Jun 2014 22:46:06
Baz, Marshall from Cardiff mate.

07 Jun 2014 20:26:10
If we all take off our rose tinted glasses who do you think we will sign?

My gut feeling is
Casillas
Aurier
Griezmann
Morata (if real prove to be stubburn on this transfer then I think it will be remy)

07 Jun 2014 21:02:09
Swap Morata for Remy and throw Schneiderlin in the mix and I will be happy.

07 Jun 2014 19:26:55
I don't want to get all doom and gloom, but my concern this summer has nothing to do with Fabregas specifically. My concern is that we will see another summer of replacements to the squad and not additions and depth. By this I mean that we will see Sagna and Fabianski replaced and a striker added, that alone is not enough we are just replacing the out going. We must also add a winger and a more defensive minded midfielder, but honestly I can't see us signing five players, when for me that needs to be the minimum. Look at our last three summer transfer windows, can we honestly say they have been successful? Yes the signing of Ozil was incredible but it did not address the issues the squad really had, and the same goes for previous years. Take a look at the key transfers over the last three seasons and answer honestly was like for like quality replaced? Were the glaring issues in the squad addressed? and were enough players signed to give us real strength in depth?

2011/12
Out - Fabregas, Nasri, Clichy and Eboue
In- Oxlade Chamberlain, Gervinho, Arteta, Mertesacker, Santos, Park and Benayoun

2012/13
Out - Robin Van Persie, Alex Song and Carlos Vela
In- Cazorla, Podolski and Giroud

2014/15
Out - Gervinho, Mannone and Chamkh
In- Ozil, Flamini and Sanogo

For me the answer is no it hasn't, some good players were signed but like for like quality wasn't added and key areas of the squad weren't addressed e.g. CDM, and again it was a case of replacing what left rather than adding to what we had with the exclusion of Ozil. This is what fills me with worry why will this year be any different? If we line up next season with just, Marshall, Aurier and Remy added for example that won't be enough to mount a serious title challenge we won't really be in any better of a position that last season and we fell away with a weakened United and Chelsea. Who knows who United will sign, if Van Gaal follows his traditional formula to get the squad up to scratch, it will be top quality wingers a cm who will hold and another who will be box to box, to compliment Mata and RVP, they also will have to add CBs. City is anybodies guess with the money they have. Liverpool have made some good early signings with Emre Can and Lambert, they also look likely to add Moreno and perhaps Shaqiri. But the most worrying are Chelsea who having sold David Luiz, have added Diego Costa and look likely to add Fabregas and Filipe Luis if not more. Next season their team could be -

Courtis-Azpilicueta-Zouma-Cahill-Filipe Luis-Matic-Fabregas-Willian-Oscar-Hazard-Diego Costa.

Seeing that team should be all the inspiration that the club needs to add several top quality players. But it is not just me as a fan who is worried about what we will do the summer, Koscielny has come out and said we need at least FOUR players, a GK, RB, CDM and CF, specifically a striker who can score a huge number of goals. If players are saying that we need this in order to mount a title challenge surely we really must need several additions. Read his interview he explains why we need to add these players to the team.

I take everything Journalists say with a big pinch of salt during the transfer window, especially with regard to targets, but one thing that has me worried is that several "reliable" journlists e.g. David Ornstein have said priority is RB, CF and Gk if right deal available we might go for a CDM. This isn't enough a CDM is a must not a might go for and a winger the same. Particularly when you look at the number of injuries we get season after season and the setbacks that always occur, Walcott won't even be fit for the start of the season so we already start a player down, Jack and Chambo will have played at a world cup and are both injury prone so the stress of a season after the WC is bound to have an effect that is why we need 5 players.

If we added, Marshall, Aurier, Javi Martinez, Greizmann and Benzema for example of the thousands of players we've been linked with next year we could have a real go at winning the league without adding that number of QUALITY players though I seriously can't see that happening. It has to be quality players as well it can't be five half baked players or prospects it needs to be five quality additions. I won't even bother addressing the tactical changes we need to see specifically in big games if we want to avoid humiliating defeats. But what does everyone else think? am I too worried? Do we need as many players as I've said? Can you see the club adding that many? Or more specifically Wenger as it is crystal clear from recent talks that the he has final say over players we sign and the price we pay.

If today's date was august 31st I'd say your right to be worried.
As it's only June 7th you can hold off the panic.

07 Jun 2014 17:23:34
Hello all, Ed02 the other night you said you might have some news come Saturday! anything to update us on? Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}

07 Jun 2014 16:11:39
Dags, what's going on with remy? It's got to be wearing on ya.

07 Jun 2014 20:01:57
Looks like we have to play the waiting game TJ.

He wants to join us and £10m is a fair price to play for him, French International et al.

Wanted Wenger to sign him before World Cup begins but that looks unlikely now mate.

07 Jun 2014 13:17:50
Out
Fabianski-free
Viviano-end of loan
Sagna-free
Kallstrom-end of loan
Sanago-loan or sell
Bendtner-free
Myiachi-sell
Park-free
Djourou-1mil
Coquelin-sell
Cambell-loan (depending on wc performance)

That's about 11 who shouldn't be in the squad next season

07 Jun 2014 15:09:51
Imired Sanogo deserved a chance and I think Myiachi and Coquelin do as well! Coquelin looked really good 2012/13 season covering RB and DM and would surely do a better job than Arteta who pretty much completely lost his legs this season if we did get Fab back I would be happy to see Coquelin get a chance to back Flamini up at cdm. The rest I agree with.

I've not given up on Miyatchi yet, and Sanogo deserve one more season chance IMO

The rest au revior

I'm a big fan of coquelin but he's not do t too well on loan when he has played it's been playes out of position he's also been injured. Myiachi Is always injured not seen much of him I'n a arsenal shirt but I do kno he has pace to burn sanago I'm not a fan yes he's young but his footwork is pants it's like those legs belong to someone else maybe if these lads do well in pre season they should be given a chance but. Think it's unlikely they will stay apart from sanogo who wenger loves

Sanogo looks like bamby have to agree there but he is young an has put in a few good performances this season compared to the worlds best striker Bentner haha. Yeah Coquelin hasn't had the best year in Germany he has been played as a left winger in most of his appearances this season. not his strongest position by far

07 Jun 2014 11:03:28
Would be interested to know everyone's thoughts on the DM situation.

A) Would people rather have a player who is tough tackling and pure defensive minded which would allow Ramsey and Ozil to concentrate more on attacking.

or

B) Would be rather have a traditional No.6 who sits back and dictates play allowing the No.8(Ramsey) to play as a box-to-box midfielder and the No.10(Ozil) to be the creative player in the midfield.

Personally, I'd love to have the option of both so we can change it up but if you had to pick one, which one would it be?

After watching City this season, I believe the right solution would be to have two hard working box-to-box midfielders. We have Ramsey, Wilshere and Chamberlain who can play the role. But we should add another to ensure depth. Then all we need to do is stick with these players and let them play together so they could learn to cover each other. Arteta and Flamini are solid back ups but neither is a solution for long term nor should be considered a starter.

07 Jun 2014 12:14:43
Good call G95. I'd love both of the Bender twins. Lars is a more attacking minded DM, Sven just loves to tackle. Sign 'em both please Mr Wenger! Just wrong to break up a family, especially twins.

07 Jun 2014 18:10:23
DM is clearly the chosen one.

07 Jun 2014 20:31:28
What about using Vermaelan in the DM role, naturally defensive minded but good on the ball. I believe it's the perfect position for him. What do you all think?

{Ed025's Note - a bit clumsy for me archie, very good defender, but dont think he has the engine for that job mate..

07 Jun 2014 10:22:58
How come banks want us to trust them with our money but don't trust us not to steal their pens?
Also
How come supermarkets put the fag counter right at the front of the store for easy access but the pharmacy right at the back so sick people have to walk furthest?
These things and others keep me awake at night

07 Jun 2014 16:25:22
And how come when you go into a clothes store the Women's clothes are downstairs right in front of you and mens are out of the way upstairs.

07 Jun 2014 09:58:37
I have a friend whose brother's kid washes the cars belonging to the neighbour of someone who once dated Arsene Wenger's cousin who tells me that we are in advanced talks to bring in MESUIT OZIL for 42million!

Oh goodness? What date is it today? I was supposed to post that on the 7th of June 2013! I really should lay off the whiskey

07 Jun 2014 09:45:19
was having a think, and while reports everywhere say chelsea have signed fabregas, it got me thinking.

Wenger really turned down cesc?

Or is mourinho trying to force his hand into an unwanted transfer?

either way if cesc does end up at chelsea what will he do? He can't defend, the reason why mata was sold, he is obviously slow, same reason mata did not play, and playing him alongside a DM or a CM is just not his style, not to forget he best operates in a free role.

So mourinho has basically bought mata again, albeit a slightly better one, but a much slower one.

If he really does sell Oscar, and his experiment fails we all know where this is going to go for him - JOBCENTER.

while its fun speculating about what chelsea are doing, and no doubt some very early business, i'm glad that we have decided to continue with our project, where Aaron Ramsey, Ox, Ozil, have taken us up a notch. concentrate on key positions as Kos recently said 4 players, and we should be good to contend and improve on last year.

no one has a divine right to win anything so all we can do is improve and test ourselves.

07 Jun 2014 07:40:37
GUNNER62. Saw your reply earlier further down the page. Just in case you miss it I replied that the Needle and Awl is fine mate. Just name a day and time. I've asked the Eds to forward you my mobile number. By the way do you live up this way.?

07 Jun 2014 08:14:41
Meant to say that I'd emailed the Eds to send you my phone number. Sorry.

Hi Golds 12.30 Monday 16 th at the owl and needle sounds good to me mate, I'll treat you to a steak mate if they do any decent ones if not we could have the house special of steak n owl pie!
Yes mate I only live about 35 miles away in Peterborough, look forward to meeting up mate we can discuss the positives of signing Remy :-)

07 Jun 2014 14:55:11
GUNNER62. Look forward to it . I have sent my number to the Eds via email don't know if yo have it yet. But give them yours so they can forward it on. Dags wanted me to borrow his short skirt and pink fluffy jumper but I said no I'm sure we don't need that to recognise each other LOL . But when you get my number from the Eds give me a ring mate.

07 Jun 2014 07:05:21
I bet that's you out there Ed025 nice and early again putting in a shift.

{Ed025's Note - no rest for the wicked golds.. :)

07 Jun 2014 07:48:52
Knew it mate. Ha Ha

07 Jun 2014 06:43:44
Let me throw this curved ball out there to you all.
Apart from feeling totally disappointed. How do you think your reactions would be if we never signed anybody again.
Toughy this one isn't it.? I know what I want to say probably be something along the lines of "Thats it I'm not bothered where we end up next season. Couldn't care less if I miss a game on TV etc."
Trouble is after over 50 years as an Arsenal supporter I can't bring myself to act like that. I would want to though as I would feel cheated and misled again. Believe me I felt like it at the beginning of last season though.

{Ed025's Note - that cannot happen again golds, arsene knows that was a big mistake, and im expecting plenty of activity this coming season mate..

07 Jun 2014 07:52:07
Hope you are right mate. Really! hope you are right. But I don't want to see another bunch of make do players again.

06 Jun 2014 23:12:05
Lucas Podolski, 47 goals in 114 appearances for Germany, a lot of those caps as a winger.

Not bad by any standards.

07 Jun 2014 06:26:11
Do you know what? It amazes me why people seem to forget about Podolski. I think he is an awesome player for us. I would go as far as to say that I would have preferred to have seen him as our main striker instead of Giroud. If we lost him I believe it would be one of the biggest mistakes we could make.

07 Jun 2014 09:34:09
I've been saying it for the last 2 seasons, Podolski is the best striker we have, underused and under valued.
His stats compared to his game time are pretty outstanding tbh