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19 Jun 2015 18:51:35
Just a quick question guys n girls. After a season of watching Welbeck play for your club, what do you now feel about him as a player?
Personally, I would have been happy to keep him as a home grown squad player, but he didn't have the quality needed to be a regular. He was very quick and worked hard, but his control, passing and finishing were dire and didn't improve whilst in our first team squad, for me. That said, having met him a few times, he seems a genuinely nice guy, and I don't hold leaving for regular first team football against him. Will he get that at Arsenal though, even when he is injury free for a while?
Interested to hear your views after a season, as i don't see much of Arsenal to judge.
1.) 19 Jun 2015 20:22:35
At the moment he's an asset to have in the squad no doubt about that, he puts in a shift without fail and can change a game when coming off the bench.
Can he win a regular place in the starting 11? Its difficult to see but who would have guested this time last year that Le Coq would become undropable?
Its a funny old game.
2.) 19 Jun 2015 21:12:25
When he signed I was devastated called him from pig to a dog (I also never really watched him at United ) but I had warmed to him especially after the superb hat trick he scored ( and it was superb) so I feel the same as g62. It could be easy to level criticism towards him but I genuinely think he's ok!
3.) 19 Jun 2015 21:59:39
He's boring on and off the pitch, nothing wrong with the way he plays, it's just we're a bit of a special football club, like United, and he's not a special player
4.) 19 Jun 2015 22:08:36
He seems like a nice guy, and he tries his best everytime I see him play. Unfortunately, his best is nowhere near enough. A good squad player that puts in a fine shift, but he just never looks like he's going to score any goals. Didn't think he was good enough for United, don't think he's good enough for England or Arsenal. I totally understand why we bought him what with Giroud breaking his leg just before the transfer deadline, but I'm constantly hoping he won't be in the starting 11 and asking for him to be subbed off first. I imagine he'll leave next summer once he realises he's never going to get a game.
5.) 19 Jun 2015 23:06:46
Decent player.
Seems to play better in an England shirt than an Arsenal shirt.
But, glad he's onboard.
Valuable squad member who can play anywhere up top.
I'm never disappointed if he is in starting 11 because he always puts a shift in.
6.) 19 Jun 2015 23:13:58
Seems like he's in precisely the same place he was when he left United. As others have said, a good, versatile squad option but never first choice Imo.
If that truly is what he wants he needs to leave for a team below the top 5/6 at some stage.
Nice guy and professional too Bu that doesn't cut it at the highest level.
7.) 19 Jun 2015 23:53:50
Forgot to say, yeah Danny also comes across as genuinely nice lad with his feet on the ground and a real appreciation and love of football.
Whether playing for England Arsenal and when with utd he may not always be the best but always gives his best and for me its always good to have players like that around.
{Ed007's Note - Put that post through Google translate and it comes up as Bull$h!ttishness for 'he's garbage but I'm not going to admit it'.}
8.) 20 Jun 2015 00:34:24
I don't know ed. There's a similar worry about Walcott every now and then you get glimpses. With welbeck he always seems to try and do to much. Carry the ball further than possible or try a cheeky flick or has a poor first touch.
Will either of those two terrorise defences week in week out I doubt it. But what do you do. They play from the bench and add pace when teams are tired. You need that . But will they be satisfied doing that and do we need both?!?
Questions questions
9.) 20 Jun 2015 03:55:46
Bit harsh 007, he's nothing special but he'd walk into the celtic team!
PS: Nice to see you on the Arsenal page, you're usually good craic
{Ed001's Note - to be fair, Ed007 could walk into the Celtic team on his crutches the way Scottish footie is going lately......
Seriously though, he does have a point, Welbeck is simply not good enough for Arsenal, or any team intending to win trophies. He will end up sitting on the bench each week, or drop down the league. If he was not tall and quick he would be playing in League 2 on ability level, his touch is appalling. Whereas Walcott clearly has ability, though again it is his pace that makes the real difference, he does have a predator's eye for goal, while Welbeck lacks it.}
10.) 20 Jun 2015 09:49:18
Thats underselling Theo, he is a step above in effectiveness Imo
Its Wellbeck's pace/power that makes people assume he's capable of more but he doesn't have the composure or technical ability to take advantage of it
11.) 20 Jun 2015 11:25:09
But all agreed walcotts the better man. But again can you see walcott doing it week in week out. Don't get me wrong I don't want him to go.
And I bet regardless of the fa cup goal Danny scored I bet all you Utd fans are glad it was not another pogba scenario and are quite smug about the whole thing
12.) 20 Jun 2015 11:48:18
Welbeck has had an average season and like at man u, he hasn't got a best position he can concentrate on. Saf rated him highly, very highly, he has to improve and has the tools to do so. First touch and english footballers isn't a phrase that goes together, so like a lot of players in this country who play and get paid far too much for their inability to control a ball, he could improvenext season, I think its a big seasonfor him, he has to kick on.
13.) 20 Jun 2015 14:01:42
Browgun, it was never going to be a Pogba situation, it was obvious he wasn't in that league. No smugness though, he's a nice guy and wanted more 1st team opportunities, not sure he chose the right club though. I think somewhere like Southampton would have been a good choice for him personally.
18 Jun 2015 22:13:27
Wow! Our club is so huge that we have decided to spread our joy and happiness amongst the lesser clubs, you must be feel very privileged, please no thanks required. Our pleasure!
1.) 18 Jun 2015 23:27:52
Are you leahy12's responsible adult can you take him back to the hospital please.
Like always Brendan United v gunners just like the good old days.
Let's hope that we both can become the biggest clubs in our own city's again. Naff been in the cold ain't it! But we have at least got used to it and bought coats and hot water bottles. You will catch on soon . No point trying to look cool in shorts and a t-shirt when it's freezing out there brrrrr xx
2.) 18 Jun 2015 23:36:10
It's an education :)
Mind u I would also point out this is probably the only page on here that has people that can take it, and give it back, all in good (even though fiery) spirits.
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3.) 19 Jun 2015 08:40:04
Brow we are the biggest clubs in our cities pal, well United are anyway, and I do consider Arsenal a bigger club than Chelsea, even if they have won a bit more lately, with their billion pound loan. No matter what City do, they will never be a bigger club than United, making their stadium bigger when they can't fill the one have for 90% of games is a joke, gives me a laugh every time I drive past it tbh. They have stupidly rich owners, but these owners can get bored very easily, no matter what money they have ploughed in, as to them it is peanuts anyway. United and Arsenal are still the biggest clubs and we've had money taken out of our clubs over recent years, for different reasons.
4.) 19 Jun 2015 09:12:35
I ain't ever going to defend City or chelsea mate. It's something we can both agree on. They ain't real clubs city were a yo yo team and chelsea were like villa or Everton . Both clubs will have to learn to stand on their own two feet
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20 Jun 2015 14:01:42
Browgun, it was never going to be a Pogba situation, it was obvious he wasn't in that league. No smugness though, he's a nice guy and wanted more 1st team opportunities, not sure he chose the right club though. I think somewhere like Southampton would have been a good choice for him personally.
19 Jun 2015 08:40:04
Brow we are the biggest clubs in our cities pal, well United are anyway, and I do consider Arsenal a bigger club than Chelsea, even if they have won a bit more lately, with their billion pound loan. No matter what City do, they will never be a bigger club than United, making their stadium bigger when they can't fill the one have for 90% of games is a joke, gives me a laugh every time I drive past it tbh. They have stupidly rich owners, but these owners can get bored very easily, no matter what money they have ploughed in, as to them it is peanuts anyway. United and Arsenal are still the biggest clubs and we've had money taken out of our clubs over recent years, for different reasons.
18 Jun 2015 18:36:54
Brow, you need to learn to read properly pal, I said I'd 'prefer' you to finish above Chelsea and City and behind us, then in the next post I said 'If' we finished 3rd it would be a failure, but would mean you'd get your 4th place battle back. Not hard if you actually read it!
18 Jun 2015 18:30:30
Wow! 2 FA Cups in 10 years and you are talking like you have won every trophy available in that time! Within the next 8 years we WILL have won more than 2 trophies, if not I won't be on places like this giving it large.
18 Jun 2015 16:10:34
I'm genuinely happy for you Browgun, but the day I am smug at finishing 3rd in the league I think I'll give up on football or become an Arsenal fan. Pretty embarrassing comment pal. We have plenty of work to do, but I expect us to challenge next season, 3rd will be a failure, but at least it would mean you get your 4th place fight with Spurs again eh?