Arsenal Banter Archive July 13 2015

13 Jul 2015 22:33:22
I have to say I think Chelsea have done another great deal. If reported transfer fees are to be believed swapping a brilliant 33 year old GK for a brilliant 28 year old GK and banking a small profit to boot. Ok not the deal of the summer but good transfer business nethertheless. Would have been more than happy if we went for Begovic ourselves....still, v happy with Cech though....

13 Jul 2015 22:44:34
Begovic is a decent keeper who obviously lacks ambition because a number two keeper is basically semi retirement.

13 Jul 2015 23:11:55
Eppy

Your right ther mate they have done some good business but you have to remember they also have a great number 1 between the sticks already.
Begovic doesn't have the expiereince of cech which makes me love our signing more

It's obvios Le boss wants the title NOW n the fact that is the case gives me boner :)

Coyg

13 Jul 2015 23:16:36
I think chelsea have matured in the transfer market. They have realised the importance of keeping a tight ship. Agreed good bit of business

14 Jul 2015 00:25:58
Good business for them financially, but on the playing side, it has taken us a step closer to them.

14 Jul 2015 14:22:43
Best job in the world = 3rd choice keeper.....loads of cash, and never have to play....

13 Jul 2015 21:38:19
Wenger its simple, just trigger Benteke's release clause and grab Vidal or Martinez and then go and have a few weeks in the south of France before the season starts.

13 Jul 2015 22:04:17
Benteka would be a mistake imo, strictly Europa hero and CL misfit.
Big fish in in a decent pond that's a few gallons short of a lake.

13 Jul 2015 22:48:52
also high injury risk, i hope we steer clear of anyone with a bad injury record

14 Jul 2015 06:16:34
Monreal and Gibbs are a solid 1-2 at LB, would only change if necessitated by someone leaving.

Its probably harder to feel as an Arsenal supporter, but imagine what teams are thinking when Gibbs and Bellerin are the backs and going to bomb forward with near Olympian sprinter speed all afternoon ;-)) and they are both the second choice this season, nice!

13 Jul 2015 20:47:28
David Alaba? Yes, I know how this sounds, but there are rumours. And I believe he once said it's his dream to play for Arsenal. Maybe Wenger is willing to offer him the DM position?

13 Jul 2015 21:35:36
Versatile player but would class him more as a left back than a DM.

Sure he made the 'Uefa' team of the year.

Very good player.

13 Jul 2015 23:23:02
theres talk of monreal to bilbao, which would mean we would need a lb

13 Jul 2015 19:54:42
Will AW stop at the 11,000,000 we have spent , if so it would be a slight let down on previous summer windows.

Thoughts
If AW signs a CF will that be a signal for Theo not to sign a new deal?

If we sign another CB when will he fit in?

Personally I think that is it , due to the fact we have so many options all over the park.

13 Jul 2015 20:45:00
There is ZERO chance that is the end of our business. FACT ;-)

13 Jul 2015 20:59:02
My own veiw is we will do all we can to get the players we need to improve us without breaking the bank in fee's and wages, well! Match Mesuts wage but not exceed it and I don't see us paying 50 million on any player yet to prove himself at the highest level.
For me Cech alone doesn't close the gap on Chelsea and with city looking likely to do what it takes to move up a gear we need to keep pace at a price that won't break us.
Arsene must know if time is running out for another title for us under him and can't afford to place catch up yet again next summer.

13 Jul 2015 20:59:54
I think there needs to be a bit of patience from us fans!
(Easier said than done, I admit)

Our real spending started in 2013/14 with Ozil, on the last day of the window.

Last season, Alexis came in quite early, but we had deals spread out through the window.
Don't forget, Welbeck again, joined on the last day.

I think those signings spoilt us.
We can't compete with Chelsea and City, maybe not even united when it comes to spending.
Yes, we have a nice cash reserve, but we aren't going to sign 5 £20-30 million players.

And that's the reason the Boss has to make absolutely. 100% sure that a player will improve us.

I personally don't feel that signing a striker or not, is that related to Theo signing.

We've already sold Podolski, Sanogo will go out on loan and Joel will go one way or another.
That leaves us with 1 out and out striker.
I say that because even though Danny is a striker by trade, he plays on the wing a lot and whilst Theo wants to be a striker, he plays as a winger mostly (till now)
I think if we can get a top striker for a good price, we'll sign one.
If not, we'll just stick with those 3 + Alexis.
It's ok for people to want us to get Lacazette or Higuain or even Benzema, but we still have to be smart.
If Napoli won't budge from Higuain's large release clause, we aren't signing him, simple.

To be honest, looking at it logically, lacazette would be the cheapest, the easiest to attain and would fit our team.
Does that mean we're going to sign him?
Absolutely not.

My view of answers to your post is basically;

Yes, we'll spend more.
If we get a striker, I don't think Theo will affect that.
If we sign a CB, it'll either be a 'veteran' who isn't expecting to play every single match, or someone who's outstanding and will replace Per.
I do doubt CB is our priority though.

To be honest, I think whilst the boss knows what he wants, he'll sign someone he thinks will strengthen our team regardless.
If Pogba turned round and said he wants to join arsenal, and the price wasn't an issue, you can bet Wenger would drop one of Santi/Coq/Ramsey from the team in an instant.
He's seemingly (hopefully) rediscovered a ruthless streak

I've gone off on a tangent here...what day is it....where am I?!?

13 Jul 2015 21:21:18
I think he has another iron in the fire Bambam.

Hope its a striker (Lacazette), he would/should/could take us to another level.

Whatever happens, we can't lose Theo, he is central to any possible success we hope to achieve.

We can't lose players of his quality.

13 Jul 2015 19:34:22
Bastian, an excellent punt at the price and although age and injuries will make it difficult to hit previous brilliance still has plenty to offer at the top. Been there done it difficult to imagine not being a success. My view he will be a hit
Stirling, not keen on the bloke but as a young player he's already shown he can shine brightly in a title challenging team, can't imagine he will be any less effective for city than he was at Liverpool the season before last. For me will be a hit too.
Spyder for me is much like Carvalho been good in a very decent side but can he shine in a side chasing a title in the world's most competitive league? Worth a punt no question but the fact is dispite waiting and waiting no one other offers came in other than utds. For me 50/50 to make the grade at the very top.
Cech? Very few players come with the odds so high in their favour of being anything other than a success. Hard to imagine him being anything but a massive Hit

13 Jul 2015 20:18:09
I Gunner,

I pretty much agree with everything you've said there mate, except I would imagine Spyder to less of a gamble than Carvalho, simply because he's stood out against the top 4 sides and he knows the league well.

As you say though, we'll only tell once theses players get going.

I actually slightly disagree with Cech too, while I agree he will be incredible for you, much like BS, age (and a lack of football for a year) will likely see a slight decline but nothing which will stop him from being a success.

Personally I think so far, having spent £75M, United have completed the best business, Depay, MS and BS are 3 very good signings in my opinion.

13 Jul 2015 15:45:08
Utd with siging of the season so with bastian the man can play with a pipe and slippers

13 Jul 2015 18:38:42
Bastian WAS a good midfielder don't forget guys he had 2 big knee injuries and now he going to plays in the fastest league... Back to the doctor... Guarantee.... Hope Wenger get striker lacazette, and carvalho and one loan winger calejon... 👊

13 Jul 2015 18:42:31
He will play deeper at United . The guy has a good brain and for 14 million make no mistake United have got themselves a good deal. But as always time will tell

13 Jul 2015 19:38:56
It's unfortunate that people seem to be flapping over purchases by another top four side.

United describe themselves as the biggest club in the world and make a lot of the money they have, this should relate to them attracting and buying the best of the best.

None of their 4 purchases have me thinking jeez we missed out there. Guardiola who knows a thing or two about quality midfielders preferred Alonso to Schweinsteiger.

Damian is a solid RB, if he picks up an injury it's back to Valencia. Schneiderlin is not one I wanted to see here as we have better but is he an improvement on what United currently have, hell yeah.

Depay looks like he has great potential but would anyone swap him for Sanchez. No.

They are looking at Otamendi for their CB position but Sanchez ripped him a new one in the Copa final. I would think the chances are they will buy a striker of note too but they really weren't going to continue with the current crop of players.

We have a great squad and Wenger will buy again, City remain with a fantastic spine to their team and have just added Sterling and will buy again. Chelsea have cover for Costa, who has had a great summers rest, in Falcao and have yet to even start doing any real business.

The premier league requires togetherness in team spirit, consistency and quality and it'll be a great fight, whether United feature in it depends on them pulling a lot of things together with Van Gaal and his philosophy.

So just chill a bit a see what comes in. We are in great shape.

13 Jul 2015 20:53:57
But your opinions on the "best of the best" May differ from others dog.

While I agree there is no need for u lot to panic due to some of the players you have already, u do need signings. But i'm sure they will come.

I feel u are again far to quick to write off opposition transfers.
Sure u are not worried (if that is true or not only u know) but make no mistake United have signed some very good upgrades this season and ones imo push if not surpass your players.

U don't need much but it's worth remembering, that gap last year was not that big. And we have improved our team this window.

Be under no illusion u are now needing to catch up.

13 Jul 2015 21:58:29
I'm not writing anyone off mate, I'm simply stating they are not players I'm envious of another club purchasing. They are good players but if you look at the players over the last two windows you have all wanted to sign they don't fit into that bracket.

We for me we still remain ahead of you whatever a gap in points may have been last season, it's the cohesion of the team, the quality of the player.

There was huge scope for you to improve as a team and much less so for us.

We are looking at surpassing Chelsea and City and will be closer to them this season, if not above them, than last.

Little doubt you are filling the holes so badly needed but Van Gaal has to knit it all together and he has yet to convince me he is the man.

13 Jul 2015 12:46:43
Getting a bit frustrated with the summer transfer window already . Would like to have a few players wrapped up so we can have a pre season with them. I hope that wenger really doesn't think we have a squad that will challenge as it is. Surly he has learnt the difference when he has bought to summers when he hasn't

13 Jul 2015 16:22:45
Arsenal are looking at/enquiring/bidding on players for sure, the eds have confirmed this much. Not saying we will buy anyone else (although I do think we will), but Wenger certainly hasn't decided that he will not recruit anymore players. I think it's a matter of 'will the right player become available'.

13 Jul 2015 16:01:38
Usually I fully agree, but this year we are so solid that we have the luxury of rotating new players into the fold.

Looking forward to the season in a big way!

13 Jul 2015 16:16:20
I agree, we do have a good team but a team that came 3rd last season, Cech is a great signing but we still need to move forward, City, United and Chelsea will improve big time.

I don't think a team with Mert as centre back is going to in the league, we need another Centre Back, backup for Coq and another great striker would seal the deal for me

13 Jul 2015 17:25:53
I would just like the deals to be done sooner rather than later. We have the money just feel wenger would still haggle over 50p! Get a CB an upgraded LB get krychowiak and lacazette done deal 70million come on get it done AW

13 Jul 2015 18:06:30
All fair comments, but don't see us as the same side as last year out of the gate. Coq was not established, Ozil is vastly improved, Bellerin is a beauty, Theo healthy, Cazorla has improved in the system and we have a solid 3rd CB that may be pushing for a starting spot… and also continuity.

13 Jul 2015 18:43:41
Your right rooster but I think we should get a few just incase

13 Jul 2015 20:27:15
Agreed Bro'82 - let's get some potential and maybe one great poacher. I would also like to see Gnabry get a solid chance - he could be amazing.

13 Jul 2015 09:34:53
interesting weekend for Man U.

2 good signings, but still glaring holes - Up top, bar Rooney absoloutly nthing, and still soft at both centre back and will need a keeper unless they trust Valdes, which is a toss up and downgrade either way ou look at it.

Getting a little concerned as rumour after rumour signs elsewhere - standing still is not an option this summer, we need players in asap to bed in and start the season well. We must have saved a prett ypenny on wages this summer, and have a decent kitty already, so no excuss.

Coquelin cover/upgrade
Quick goalscoring striker
Replace any other leavers (Monreal)

Job done.

13 Jul 2015 16:18:34
Rooney, nothing? are you sure
I'm no United fan but I think Ronney can be geat

13 Jul 2015 15:08:29
You can be sure utd will be signing a cb and st

13 Jul 2015 17:22:52
Last year we conceded one more goal than Arsenal having experienced and extremely difficult start with a succession of injuries. I think you are over doing the inadequacies. Smalling, Jones, Rojo and Shaw will all likely be better this coming year, and now we have a) a proper right back, and b) much more solid defensive midfield.

The difference between the two teams in points was made up by our lacklustre performance against the lower teams. With the all round defensive improvement and the addition of a wild card in Depay and possibly a more acclimatized Di Maria, I think you may be surprised by how good we might be, whether or not we sign another CF or CB, which we might well do. In any event LVG is a man who likes his CF in a 4-3-3 to occupy the CBs allowing others to find space and score. You can go back to our game against City when Rooney had the fewest touches in his career and yet Gary Neville suggested LVG might regard that as his finest game.

What we have done this summer is what Arsenal under Wenger seem to have been reluctant to do, which is add the brawn to go with the brain.

My treacherous Gooner wife is quaking in her boots! Well not really, she knows an Arsenal win over United isn't in the interests of maintaining marital bliss.

13 Jul 2015 08:48:37
Hi eds, bein sport yesterday said arsenal are in talks with David Alaba, any truth in that?

{Ed002's Note - He has been training with BM and played for them yesterday. Arsenal do not have permission to speak with the player.}

13 Jul 2015 00:36:07
Ed, with Morgan Schneiderlin signing for Man U, do you expect Arsenal to sign a défensive midfielder?

{Ed007's Note - Utd might listen to offers for Carrick.}

13 Jul 2015 06:15:19
Not really. I believe the emergence of Coquelin and the extension to Arteta's contract have led to Wenger being satisfied with his defensive midfield options. We still have Flamini and have used Wilshere, Ramsey & Cazorla in the deep holding role.
The weaknessess in our squad that I believe we may try and strengthen are at Left back, where despite his decent form in the second half of last season, Monreal lacks the pace necessary for a top Premier League left back and Gibbs has defnsive shortcoings, evident throughout his career. I suggest we will sell Monreal, forwhom we have interest from Spain and keep Gibbs who is younger, quicker and importantly homegrown. We may also consider signing a 4th centre back, allowing Chambers to go out on loan to gain playing experience at CB, where I believe he will ultimately end up. With Bellerin & Debuchy at RB, I can't see Chambers getting much gam time. The problem with signing a CB is that they will have 3 quality ones to compete with. So we may keep Chambers after all, giving cover at CB & RB.
The only other signings may come, if Walcott won't extend his contract or Cazorla moves back to Spain. Otherwise there is little space in the squad for signings.

13 Jul 2015 10:46:01
Johnny Evans can do a job there! That versatility makes him a steal at £10m.

13 Jul 2015 11:15:26
Honey,
You are a very welcome guest to our page, but please don't ever ever ever mention Johnny Evans again.

(Smiley face).

13 Jul 2015 12:05:23
But he's better than Charlie Austin and Loic Remy rolled into one! And I've seen so many gooners say they don't want Coq replaced with a big name, the more I think of it the more sense it makes 😉

13 Jul 2015 12:57:39
Look honey a couple of good signings for you boys. But please try and offload Evans elsewhere

13 Jul 2015 13:33:29
I'll try Browgun but its Wenger you need to speak to, big fan I've heard!