Arsenal Banter Archive January 14 2019

 

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14 Jan 2019 21:35:50
Don't worry about the lack of signings, as wenger used to say 'ozil will be like getting a new player when he comes back'.

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14 Jan 2019 22:26:04
Is he coming back?

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15 Jan 2019 08:57:59
Rather him than this shower of shšŸ˜¤t and thatā€™s saying somthing.

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15 Jan 2019 13:34:54
Based on our performance versus West Ham i say very welcome back Ozil. He has more capability of creating chances in his little finger than the rest of the team has combined. what's the point of playing 2 center forwards if you have no one capable of setting them up? Perhaps we need to get over this whole Ozil doesn't defend rubbish (neither does Xhaka or Guendouzi and they are supposed too! ) , and see him as what he is, a number 10, who should be picked (or not) based purely on the chances he creates. The sad truth i feel is that we can't play both Aubey and Lacca with Ozil, with both needing to play through the middle, not be pushed out wide to accommodate the other. For me I would start with Aubey and Ozil as my two forwards, currently in a 3-5-2 or similar formation, and they would be instructed to attack, stay forward, offer themselves up for quick breaks, and not be required to defend.

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15 Jan 2019 15:50:32
Epping I totally agree with all that mate and I really hoped wed see the best of Mesut when Dick arrived as Ozil Lacasette Pea looks like a dream attack in a 3 4 1 2 formation to me.
But it hasn't and isn't going to work out that way so for whatever reason so it's best to part company if possible, best for Ozil best for Arsenal.

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15 Jan 2019 17:30:06
Your probably right G62, it appears his time with us is coming to an end. However, trying to replace him with anyone half decent won't come cheap, and i am not sure our wallet expands far enough to do just that. So if its a case of keeping Ozil or just replacing him on the cheap, i would take Ozil every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Does Ole Gunnar Solskjaer have what it takes to be a permanent Manager of Manchester United

14 Jan 2019 12:39:51
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Does Ole Gunnar Solskjaer have what it takes to be a permanent Manager of Manchester United

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14 Jan 2019 14:15:35
Yes of course he does, he's managed in the prem before, he's an ex man utd player, he's a serial trophy winner with Mold and obviously doesn't mind wind and rain. Ole for utd!

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14 Jan 2019 11:20:32
Hello Welsh mate I can understand your concern mate but I can remember Wenger being in pole position in Feb with games in hand and we blew it also being in front at Xmas losing Ramsey and Walcott to injuries doing nothing in Jan transfer window except buying a Swedish mid fielder with a back injury and could not play and we stuck with Wenger for a few more seasons. If mediocre players on big wages are a problem that was brought on by Wenger then give Unai a decent timescale to sort it. If Unai got the job because he was prepared to work within financial restrillions has its been suggested on this site then we have only 2 scenarios
One -He only took the job because it was good money.
Two-He has got belief in his own abilities to get the job done.
At this moment in time I am going for the second option.
As I have already said in a earlier post lots have been said about Kopp and Pochard but as it stands neither
of them have yet to win anything at their present clubs. You mentioned Man Utd well time will tell if they are playing for well because of Solskaer or just to make Jose look bad.
Guardiola is a fantastic manager but could not produce at Bayern what he did at Barcelona and and he his doing a great job at City but as it stands as not done no better than Pellegrini. Pep will ultimately be judged on wether he can bring the Champions league trophy home to the Ethihad. Unai is a proven winner with other clubs so let's give the bloke time if like I said yesterday that 18 maths down the line we we're seeing no improvement then questions need to be asked but let's get behind him and see where it pans out
Take care Welsh.

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14 Jan 2019 13:10:29
Nice Post.

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14 Jan 2019 13:21:49
Ah the infamous 2013/ 14 season where we really blew it big time! We won the fa cup but what a horrible second half of the season that was despite the fa cup being our first trophy in a decade, the title was there for the taking but alas we made Kim Kalstrom our only signing to see the job through :- (.

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14 Jan 2019 13:47:58
Great post Clockend (phew spelling! ) the guy is doing a job for us because he thinks he can ultimately get us to a better place. Where have people been these last few years, not to remember how low we have been stooping and how badly this club was being run. Is their memory and their patience so poor. I've had to put up with years of decline, i'm quite happy for a few hard weeks to get the poison out of this club and that is what is happening. So bloody what if the awful utd are now daring to draw level with us after 4 years of absolute mediocrity.

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14 Jan 2019 14:08:35
Top post clockend

Couldn't Put it better myself.

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14 Jan 2019 15:24:59
In the words of Jerry Maguire
" Show me the improvement "
Like it or not the reality is so far there is none!

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14 Jan 2019 16:00:40
Gunner, while i accept your point. Do you not think the guy is at least trying to change things by formations, personell changes, the stance with ramsey and the big one ozil and if ypu look many other things. Sometimes changes or improvement from changes don't wprk immediately but from a period where nothing changed, surely people have to see this guy is actually being pro active. And i think challenging the board to be on board with him and back because we didn't have that before. I would argue he is trying to change and we aren't going backwards at least. Me i don't mind going back to go forwards if things are being tried, that need to be tried.

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14 Jan 2019 16:28:24
How proactive is starting Xhaka in every league game just like Arsene did Steve mate? Iwobi rather than Lacasette? I just don't get it at all but if it was working then I would accept the man knows what he's doing but it isn't so I'm not so sure he is any more clued up than Arsene was in his last decade.
I really hope he is and comes good for us but Xhaka Iwobi Ƭn place of Lacasette and Guendouzi? It's a real worry for me mate.

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14 Jan 2019 17:57:42
Gunner, i can pick out all things i don't like that he is doing, the difference is he is actually doing lots of radical and controversial things to try and sort things. Blood letting comes to mind and surgery, you often don't feel better straight away after them either but you can later.

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14 Jan 2019 18:16:53
I think politicians call it the green shoots of recovery Steve:-)
So far it reminds me of our last season in the champions league 16/ 17 where we were getting good results despite conceeding chances for fun which other teams consistently wasted then suddenly Everton did or in this case Southampton did and suddenly we couldn't buy a result, funny enough we went to Anfield that season and got stuffed by half time too.
Personally I'm not and never was too fussed about where we finish this season I Just want see some solid foundations taking shape that I can hang my coat on and say " that's better than we've been used too"
I'd take a 0 0 in our next 5 games gladly as long as we stop conceding so many chances to everyone like we did against Fulham at the Emirates and let's face it Fulham are struggling for chances week in week out.

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14 Jan 2019 18:40:02
Is this meant for me?

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14 Jan 2019 19:07:26
Is what meant for you Welsh?

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14 Jan 2019 23:01:26
Yes Welsh, the original poster of this thread was addressing your concerns.

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15 Jan 2019 07:31:32
We havenā€™t been in pole positions lol.

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14 Jan 2019 10:23:58
19th December 12 points clear of Utd today level points, absolutely shocking, not convinced one bit with emery, we have gone backwards, big changes are needed to say this club.

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14 Jan 2019 13:10:47
Not convinced by Emery? Give the guy a break. I'm just as frustrated as you that we have dropped that 12 point gap but this isn't down to Emery. He has pushed that team hard and some would say he's pushed them as far as he can go with the players that he currently has. He needs time and he needs players and with a defence as shocking as ours even Pep wouldn't make it work! Arsenal need investment and we aren't going to get that from Kroenke so be happy with what we do have. At least he's trying, which is more that can be said for Arsene sitting there in the dugout for 90 minutes. I agree, big changes are needed and one of them is this self-sustainable business model. It's rosy for the club and perfect for the shareholders but Arsenal won't win anything until his pockets start emptying. Maybe an FA cup or 2 if we're lucky.

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14 Jan 2019 13:43:44
I donā€™t think heā€™s good enough, didnā€™t when we were linked with him.

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14 Jan 2019 14:00:52
Welsh and your reasons being?

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14 Jan 2019 14:10:30
He's a darn sight better than the managers we were linked with? Or should I say assistant coach 'Arteta'.
Nagelsmann, Allegri etc was just all talk. People who want money to spend would never of joined us anyway. Emery is a coach and he'll do that better than Arteta imo, albeit he gets players in the positions he wants to strengthen.

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14 Jan 2019 18:45:27
We are worse off than last season with better players, I think he is just a yes man for the board to control, fand when we were linked with him I didnā€™t want him, is that ok steve or shall I remove my thumbs šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.

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14 Jan 2019 18:46:08
Glenn I never wanted or mentioned Arteta or Henry b4 u say.

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14 Jan 2019 19:10:24
No welsh, you didn't say why you didn't want him and didn't say why a three times europa league winner, french treble winner, 8 major trophy winner, three times promoted in his early days with clubs who had never been promoted, european coach of the year, wasn't in your mind good enough for us. Just interested in your reason, that's all.

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14 Jan 2019 19:15:12
Welsh, what thumbs, i haven't got thumbs, i haven't had thumbs for years. I don't use thumbs, i like people to pipe up.

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14 Jan 2019 20:34:30
Steve I just didnā€™t want him and I told you why, but you have to keep on until you get your point across as usual.

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14 Jan 2019 20:34:53
I see two thumbs on your posts we see them you donā€™t hahahah.

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14 Jan 2019 21:08:27
You like them to ā€œpipeā€ up but donā€™t like it when people have a different view lol your way the highway, Iā€™ve noticed a few people say that the last few weeks, yet you donā€™t come on live as most replyā€™s donā€™t get posted.

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14 Jan 2019 20:34:30
Steve I just didnā€™t want him and I told you why, but you have to keep on until you get your point across as usual.

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14 Jan 2019 20:34:53
I see two thumbs on your posts we see them you donā€™t hahahah.

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14 Jan 2019 21:55:35
No welsh, you told me you didn't think he was good enough for arsenal. I only asked and you still haven't answered. Why wasnt he good enough? Just asking, don't get flustered. If you don't want to tell me why, then dont, its your secret. I only asked why?

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14 Jan 2019 21:59:13
And by the way opinion is opinion not highway or my way. We all may not agree but its only opinion. Because you i or who else doesn't agree, its life!

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14 Jan 2019 22:48:32
Steve / whatā€™s changed and whatā€™s improved?

Defending - no
Creativity and attack - worse
Effort and pressing / no
Organisation - no
Tactics - marginal at best
Sense to have defensive cover - nope
Beaten by simple ball over the top - still

What are you seeing that I am missing - I was stating the same stuff during our 22 match run that papered over the cracks.

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14 Jan 2019 23:53:41
Sy, i'm not seeing anything, i'm being realistic. Football or any sport is not simplistic. It is not a case of change and that's it alls ok now. i'm giving this guy who has a brilliant record of success a chance to sort our deep lying problems out.

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15 Jan 2019 07:26:36
Because heā€™s not good enough Iā€™ll leave you with that as I know itā€™s annoying you.

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15 Jan 2019 07:28:08
Looks to me that you donā€™t like people to have there own say, Iā€™ve seen that a lot with you in my short time here.

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15 Jan 2019 07:32:15
Well said sy4 it did paper over the cracks.

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15 Jan 2019 08:53:21
Steve - thatā€™s a fair comment. Perhaps everyone is saying the same thing but their desire for change is different. I believe you agree we are seeing little / no improvement ( I think weā€™ve actually gone a little backwards ) but that itā€™s too early to judge. For me - I come across impatient and want the world to change while you are patient but it seems like accepting a below par arsenal. My concern is our low expectations got us here and I was guilty of thst so I believe like every other manager and player as well as employee - expectations are set early and heat is turned on so we never drop our exoectstions
May be thatā€™s the reason for our differences on here.
Please note - I very often state when I am wrong or that I am giving him time. I know you do mention it on the oddbplayer but I havenā€™t heard you really say you are unhappy with the clubs prigress. Thereā€™s nothing wrong admitting that - probably better than my position of impatience but at the end of the day we all want our Arsenal back šŸ‘ŠšŸ†šŸ‘.

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15 Jan 2019 10:20:26
There needs to be statistics to back up why he's not good for us imo regardless of who thinks what.
Last season we lost 13 games all season. So far we have lost 5 with 16 games to go. I personally think we will beat the 63 points we finished with last season so that in itself will be an improvement. Lacazette was our top scorer in the league with 14 goals, a number which has already been equalled this season by Auba. He will easily finish on 20 plus which is another improvement in terms of goal scoring attackers. Finishing 5th is an improvement on last season which is something that it still achievable and a decent cup run will be something Emery is after.

We will be tested in the latter stages of the Europa League but again, we can win that and you all know we can. What does it take to show he's good enough if his previous achievements aren't something to go by? Winning the Europa League? The Champions League? The Premier League? Pep took his time to get hold of things at City and Klopp hasn't won anything for 4 years at Liverpool! Does that not make him good enough? With that, they have both had serious investment which is something that we won't get! Sorry but opinions are invalid if they aren't backed up. He's had half a season, give him a chance.

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15 Jan 2019 14:41:47
Sy, firstly, no we haven't gone backwards, today we are better off points wise than last season. Second, December and jan are his first real blips this season after a 22 game unbeaten run. Thirdly i stated at the beginning of the season and you probably notice, i don't change my mind easily. I don't have great expectations this season. Fourth, what's the point of moaning when all our problems before he came on and off the field were there for all to see and we are going through a massive transformation. This club needs supporters that support someone who is willing to change that and i'm exceedingly happy that he is giving it a good go. This team as far as i'm concerned is still mostly wengers, until that changes to a lesser %, i will support what i can see he is trying to do. You say we haven't improved, that opinion is your opinion. How dow and when do you gauge that? We are on 2 points more than last season, we have scored more goals and we under Dick, broke the record for the most consecutive clean sheets ever in the EL 6 on the trot. i'm not saying we have improved but i am saying i can see changes and m happy with that.

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Review Of The Day 14th January 2019

14 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th January 2019

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