Arsenal Banter Archive July 19 2013

19 Jul 2013 19:25:05
Kurt Zouma or Sakho anyone?

Zouma could be our Nastastic and Sakho may not be content with playing second fiddle to Thiago Silva and Marquinhos.

19 Jul 2013 19:47:32
Is it just me or are there fellow gooners who are worried about arsenals transfer dealings. I posted a few months ago about, securing targets and doing business early. Yet again we are losing out in the race for top quality players (like we did with Mata and Hazard in previous seasons, Jovetic and Higuian this season). We seem to be talent excellent at finding players that are available, only then for the likes of Citeh and Chelsea to clear up. We only just made fourth place last season. Arsenal football club are better than this. let's get the quality additions that we need, give them time to bed in and make a proper challenge for the title or champions league.

I agree with what you're saying and arsenal do tend drag out their transfer dealings.


But what I would say this, if wenger had a choice in an ideal world what do you think he would prefer? Early or late?

They are professionals and they know a lot more than we do about football!

So we have to trust wenger and his coaching staff will get any new signings integrated, fit etc into the club.

I appreciate your what you're saying, but let them be concerned and do their job- its what they get paid for!

Hazard didn't even consider Arsenal. It was between Chelsea and Utd

19 Jul 2013 19:05:33
so when are arsenal going to spend some of this 70 million that is so called available? jovetic gone to man city. huguain who knows what's happening with this one? rooney or suarez. nothing yet & fellaini in the bag so they said 3 weeks ago, come on arsenal instead of just watching these players how about making a couple of signings. or is it a case of we tried but we failed again!!

Bernard 21 million pounds apparently

19 Jul 2013 18:24:51
so man city have signed jovetic for £22m (a web site), and negredo for however much, whilst benteke has withdrawn his transfer request and signed a new contract and higuain now claims mou wants him at chelski. hmm. it seems all the strikers are getting snapped up pretty fast.

i reckon were far more likely to promote from within, possibly buy a winger (bernard looks good for around £20m), especially because of girouds pre season form (which wenger seems too excited about in my opinion) and move walcott to a more central role, and we've got podolski who can play across the front.

weve got the money, but why spend over the odds, when I think with all the chops and changes this season to the top 4 (managers and players), we could really benefit from keeping some stability and consistency player wise. won't please everyone but people get far too hyped on the transfer rumours flying around.

all I want is a midfield enforcer. I really think that would transform the team and free up the undoubted creative vibe we've got in the final third. i'd cry if we got luiz gustavo. tears of happiness that is.

in wenger we trust

19 Jul 2013 17:44:22
No arsenal related, but the player was linked with us:

Benteke has withdrawn transfer request and signed a new contract extension.


So that's him ruled out as a potential signing.

Funny I was told by Tottenham fan he was signing imminently. Ha who cares that really won't get a good striker

Bergkamp5353

19 Jul 2013 17:40:27
No offence guys but I don't think there is a chance in hell that you will get Suarez now, unrealistic or not Rodgers is right to start quoting ridiculous fee's like 55 million. Wether we all think he is worth that or not ( I'm an LFC fan and I wouldn't pay half that ) with Cavani going for 55 then Suarez is worth at least that and there is no way that Arsenal will pay that. Arsenal should also take the hint, quoting daft prices is the same as saying he's going nowhere no matter what you offer.

I don't know my friend. With Suarez saying how he wants to leave he good cause a rift and force a move. :) don't worry though, Europa league will still be an easy ride, if you can handle it.

If we want him we'll get him. he wants champions league football fact and we're cash rich fact

paul

19 Jul 2013 19:34:17
He want CL. But he also want to win it. not get an exit by december.
Suarez winning CL with arsenal?

You want to win cups but you dont' fact. A little humility is no bad thing. Be careful or people will start mistaking you for moneybags Chelski and we all know how popular they are.
Red Custard

Third poster, if its all about champions league and money he would still rather go to Europe, LFC are STILL more successful than AFC, its judged on trophies won not finishing in the champions league places. Don't be so arrogant mate, you've won NOTHING for eight years and we've kept on winning the odd trophy in our lean spell. No offence to the rest of you lads because I do respect AFC but I really don't like the arrogance of some people, if he wants to be successful in England then he should go to Chelsea, City or stay where he is. ( Not counting MUFC, with Moyes there they may well not win anything again).

"If we want him we'll get him" err no, if we want to sell him to you and he wants to go to you then you'll get him

I am gooner and I have to agree with the last few Liverpool posters.

Paul- your comment is arrogant- "if we want him we'll get him"! We wish! How many transfers slip through our hands =?

cash rich- yes its a fact- but how much we will actually spend of it?

The original poster was entirely respectful and just offering an opinion.

If you don't agree that's cool- but have a bit more class. We're better than that.

GL

19 Jul 2013 17:30:50
Wish Tito Villanova well for his battle with health

Think we all agree on this. best wishes for his fight.

Yeah, sad news. Wish him well.
Flybo

Hope he recovers very soon and has many cancer-free years

19 Jul 2013 17:18:44
no new goalkeeper: shezney first choice
no new right back: sagna staying unfortunately
no back up center back: miguel 4th choice

Yeah cause the window just closed 5 minutes ago didn't it?

maybe there won't be a new gk, but is shezz so bad?

sagna, sure wasn't at his best last season, but he is a quality right back, when in form.

no back up CB? So what is Miguel then?

But mainly, the window hasn't just closed, so let's see who is signed and then evaluate the squad.

19 Jul 2013 17:06:26
I see more stories relating to Bernard coming to AFC this summer, surely/hopefully this means the end of Gervinho career at the club. From what I've seen on youtube (the #1 source of credible football intelligence!) he looks very neat, can score/cross with either foot and can do some outrageous tricks when required. He`s a very creative player so probably one for the 3 behind the striker, sharing duties with Cazorla, Walcott, Podolski, Wilshire etc.

Still need an experienced holding player though imo, surely we won't be depending on Arteta, Ramsay and maybe Wilshire in that position all season. Strength in depth, very important.

19 Jul 2013 16:36:09
According to his agent Julio Cesar isn't prepared to take a wage cut in order to join Napoli.

Could Wenger still nip in and sign him?

Do we need him? I have a feeling Szczney, Fabianski & Martinez can do the job.

I`d be a lot happier going into the new season with a credible and experienced GK over the current lot we have, GK is possibly the most important position on the pitch, only a world class one is good enough for us imo.

19 Jul 2013 15:26:33
Where has all that money from selling Van Persie and co gone? Last summer we spent about 40 million, which is just below the annual transfer budget, sellings excluded. So why don't we spend that 50 million or so raised from losing valuable players, who have yet to be properly replaced. We should bid 40 million for suarez and 23 million for higuain.

I think we have already bid that lol. But I don't think we will get either for that price.

The sales of RVP & Song, funded the purchases of Cazorla, Giroud & Podolski. We then spent a further £8m on Monreal in January. Wenger has stated that the club is a business and must be run as such, with an aim to achieve a profit of at least £20m. I would be extremely suprised if we make any major signings despite all the noise. So far we have released a few players & signed one extremely low cost player in Sonago. There is no way we will sign Rooney, Higuain or Suarez.

When have we ever spent 40m? Infact we've been told that money has been tight for years. Let's not forget inflation, or perhaps Wenger had 40m to spend when he first joined the club?

It's true though we do have a 40m budget in FM when we tell the board we want to win the league!

Reality be damned.

19 Jul 2013 14:47:11
I hardley ever ask such questions but do any of the ed's know anything regarding a move for Diego Costa?
I'v seen this guy play quite a lot last season, he keeps Lopez on he bench. Big and skillfull, can play just about anywhere in attack but is very much an individual sort of player.
Scores goals but extremely selfish

Heard anything?

Lwi {Ed027's Note - see previous answers

19 Jul 2013 14:07:34
We need to be realistic. The sums of money being thrown about are beyond mad. Sadly while wave money and while Arsenal are looking to spend big others are going to spend much more. Backed by Oil and Russian billions clubs like City, Chelski. Paris St Germain can and do waste tens of millions. We can't nor should we.

Higuain is worth circa £20m nothing close to £30m plus, Rooney would cost (with mad wages) £60m plus, he's good but not great. Decent Spanish players are costing more than our transfer record - are they worth it? Hard to be sure but they feel over priced.

Our problem is once we spend our millions we don't have billions to spend on the next lot when those we buy fail. Just look how much Chelski, City and Real have spent over the last few years. Totally stupid and totally not the way a decent real club should go.

So honestly I think we need to start thinking out of the box, other than potentially Suarez (and I think he'll end up at Real) we will not get one of the players we are currently being linked with, and maybe that's no bad thing.

Who would I think about? Lamela at Rome wouldn't be cheap but looks real class. Aubameyang is clearly a talent and less of a risk than spending millions on players like Jovetic and Higuain at the prices being quoted.

Oh and by the way Cesc is going nowhere this summer, that's why Arsenal aren't getting involved, yes Unit want him but he is where his heart is - sadly.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

Aubameyang has signed for dortmund mate

tobias

Tobias

God damn you are right - ha and I like to think I keep up to date! But that just shows what I mean. Dortmund were the second best side in Europe, have had to lose true superstars and yet have looked beyond those players going for silly millions. I'd rather look at what Dortmund do than Real or Chelski. Support a real football team.

Thanks though - and you've left me more worried still. Don't like the feeling that I would be pleased to sign Suarez who I have always disliked.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

I think you're 100% correct. If I were Wenger, and of course I am not and am not privy to more discreet details within the clup, I would keep what I have up top move podolski into that striker role, and sign, Bernard as seems to be happening, Vadillo, and test Chelsea on Mata. Finally I would then push Lyon for Gonalons, using both Gervinho and a respectable offer. Gonalons, is quick and intelligent passer, good and hard in the tackle, and as importantly, calm both on the and with the ball and off the pitch.
Call it a false nine or what ever you like, Cazorla and Mata could well rest one another for creativity, and with Wilshire's industry and a true defensive holding midfielder, Walcott, Chamberlain, Bernard and Vadillo could play off of and interchange with Podolski and Giroud all day and teams would struggle to keep up with the pace and technical ability.
And all of these signings, would settle easily into the premier league with Cazorla, Arteta and potentially Mata's influence.
My thought for what they're worth.
CK Greening

Ghost of terry mancinie

sorry to be the bearer of bad news mate lol

19 Jul 2013 11:15:54
Eds, please clear up our situation
Jovetic has gone to city, leaving 2 transfer targets
Suarez and Higuain. I suspect we will miss out on both and put up the exact same team as last year with sanogo on the reserves, I hope i'm wrong, but the way things are going, I could see this being true and our only signing being sanogo. There is no point being in a situation to sign world class player, if there are none left to buy {Ed027's Note - you've cleared it up the way you want to

19 Jul 2013 13:14:37
heard there is some interest in phousseyne diaby of Châteauroux. don't know much about him other than he's about 6ft, 18 years old and plays holding mid. could be a good buy with only a year left on his contract. he could be one to stick in our academy or send off on loan. have any edds heard anything about him or a possible move?

Is he injury prone?

Nick.

If your names diaby. Your injury prone

19 Jul 2013 12:59:04
I reckon arsenal should offer Liverpool 35million plus bendtner and forehead boy, that would roughly equal the stupid 55 million they want, losing two absolutely pathetic players and gaining one world class player is two deals in one.

Johnny

19 Jul 2013 14:14:27
Plsssss. we could return you with 5 mill to keep bendtner with you.

His name is Gervinho, don't be so disrespectful. He's got more footballing talent then you'll ever have.

His name is Gervinho, don't be so disrespectful. He's got more footballing talent then you'll ever have.

You can't just offer players if they don't want them as much as it would be good too.

G95

Gervinho isn't 'pathetic'

Haha you know they actually have to accept that offer for us to get Suarez. I know Liverpool have done some terrible bussiness in the recent past, but surely they won't accept that. Maybe if we leave Bendtner out of the deal ;)

Looks like ted's got a real soft spot for Gervinho, he missed an open goal against Bradford, With all due respect but BRADFORD!

Yeah Ted, how do you know I don't have footballing talent equal to or even better than Gerv, after all you know is I'm sitting behind a laptop as are you.

Johnny

19 Jul 2013 12:22:18
Arsenal and Napoli only sides to offer a concrete offer according to players agent.

Player favours Arsenal move and wants to stay in London

Suarez bid confirmed by Liverpool and Sky, it is believed according to sky the bid was 30m plus 5m add ons and now there has been a reported 35m bid with 5m add ons submitted.

Fabregas will stay at Barcelona their chief executive said he is non transferable.

Any deal for Fellaini by Manchester United or Arsenal will be done the last days of his contract clause expiration date. It would seem both clubs have higher targets now and Fellaini is a last option.

Don't expect any deals to be done until after the tour.

Not in the know just found this info from reliable sources like sky and thought other fans would want to hear it.

19 Jul 2013 11:28:26
Is anyone else worried that we might end up signing Dzeko as our new striker? Perhaps he will compliment the other potential terrifying signing of Gareth Barry.

Dzeko is a wonderful player criminally under-utilised and under-rated by City. I'd welcome the man.

Lol. is a horrendous thought. but I cannot imagen us signing him, too much alike with Giroud.
I also hope we do not sign Barry. Not a good signing. unless its to fill our bench, transfer 5 million or less and earns no more then 50k a week.

Dzeko is an excellent player, how many goals do you need him to score before you admit it? Goals to games ratio at City has been superb, but due to excessive numbers of strikers at City he's been criminally underused.

Dzeko is a great player! Suarez is more talented but a liability. I'd personally rather have Dzeko. If we could get him for 20m ish, I'd say it's a bargain.

19 Jul 2013 09:47:15
just a few days ago we were all confident that cesc would never join utd, but moyes in his press conference was pretty confident about them signing him. I will be totally gutted if he joined the manc which seems likely, and for gods sake when will wenger a signing, I keep ckecking my phone every 30 minutes hoping to find news on a signing, city currently have 4 strikers where at least 3 0f them if not all are better than what we have and yet we have hopes of challenging for the league. so for the rant

I'm with you on this, I'm very confident Cesc would only leave to come back to us but Moyes and co sound so confident. If Wenger let's him go to Utd, I will have finally lost patience with my club

Paul

I have a feeling that Fabregas is on his way to United. Meanwhile, Wenger has a twinkle in his eyes. Has this cleared Rooney to join us? Is Suarez on his way?

Not "all". I said some weeks ago that Fabregas was being watched by Utd. Shouldn't take this personally but Cesc isn't an Arsenal fan.

He isn't going there. I think is prob a smoke screen to get Arsenal off Rooneys case

19 Jul 2013 10:35:18
Theres a lot of talk on here about the assumed length of the season ticket waiting list, I really don't think its as long as most people assume. I suspect needing 2 or more tickets together may push you down the list, but getting my single ticket only took 4 years from the move to the Emirates (after being told it would be at least 10 years. ) Other friends who joined the season ticket waiting list have had tickets in 3-4 years as well. A large number of last seasons games did not sell out, meaning season ticket holders could not place their tickets on exchange if they were unable to attend, resulting in empty seats. Without at least one big signing to drag people back into the ground (and justify the very high ticket prices) I suspect there will be even more empty seats this season - I know the season ticket holders have already paid so the board don't care if they turn up or not, but it does look bad on TV coverage.

I was on the waiting list for Highbury for nearly 15 years eventually making it to around 14,000th when we moved to the Emirates. Shortly afterwards I got a letter saying "Congratulations, you are now number 38,000 (or something ridiculous)on the waiting list". I thought wtf and stopped paying the subs to be on the list. Joined as a Red member instead and get to go to the odd early season game and some Cup matches. Pity is I probably will never get to see us play the Toot live ever again.

CECEGUaW

19 Jul 2013 10:34:14
my main concern lately is. Cesc joining united.

they can even take ronaldo back, but I don't want them to chase our players. just annoys the hell out of me.

guardian stating the deal could be completed in 48 hours.

Cesc isn't your player.

We took RvP, you took Silvestre.

That's fair isn't it?

Sydney!

I agree. I would hate o think that Fabregas would be made available then for us not to move heaven and earth to get him back. The supposed fee that we would have to pay is £25m to get him to talk personal terms wih us. Surely making Cesc the highest paid player at the club is viable.

Nas

LoL, How could Rvp and silvestre exchange be fair?

He's ripping the pish. Jesus! We're becoming the team that gets it ripped out them!

G95

Wot really winds me up laker is the way u claim cesc is YOUR player! Last I heard he joined barca!

Lakerville

Their Cheif Exec said he is non transferable

Cesc loves Arsenal and has already told Wenger why Wenger was soo confident to state he was going nowhere for a year at least before anyone else knew.

Cesc and Wenger regularly talk

Cesc agreed to put the sell on fee and buy back clause in his contract for Arsenal

Cesc could have gone to Manchester United instead of Barca

He loves Arsenal, at nearly every interview about when asked about Arsenal he sings the club's praises and how he could come back.

If you believe what the guardian are stating i'm sure you agree with false rumours that said we we're about to sell Cazorla.

If Arsenal is your team stand behind them and if your going to post a rumour research everything behind it before you post it.

19 Jul 2013 10:07:36
Liverpool fan in peace.

I respect your club and I like the way you guys play.
But If cavani from an italian league is worth 54 mill. then suarez who hit 30+ goals in an EPL is suerly worth 50 mill without a doubt.
Suarez doesn't care for any club. he plays with 110% commitment. He hasn't been injured in his whole footballing life.
He would still hit 25+ goals if he is banned half a seaosn. such is his calibre.
we are no hurry to sell him. and we would be happy to sell him to Real if we get an offer of 35 mill + alvaro moratta.

Higuain is almost certain to join Napoli.
I am not sure about your other targets.

If real values Higuain 30 mill. then suarez for me is 60 mill. Higuain is just a wonderful striker.
suarez is a No7. who can assist, dribble, scoresa with both feet and he is deadly in freekick.

You must pay top draw to get a top player.
van persie last year 24 mill. 29 years old.

suarez 3 years still in contract 26 years old. is worth 55 mill.

No Offence

His value is reduced with his disciplinary record and the fact he has 6 games remaining on his ban. Throw in what he has been saying in the press about leaving and it puts the scousers in a weak position. If he handed in a transfer request to try and force the issue further, £40mil is about right, defo no more than £45mil

It's pointless to come here and say cavani cost this so suarez costs that. every player has a price and some are better value for money than others. it's good to know you value him at 55m, obviously majority of people think his value is less than that.

there are more factories involved when calculating player's value than skill. like contract length that you seem to notice. cavani's price was high because he was bought by a club with bottomless pockets. competition for higuain is driving his price up. such a club isn't after suarez. we're the only club that has bid for him and we won't offer 55m, liverpool knows it. also, suarez wants out. no offence, but that's because he's too good to play in a mediocre side.

Cavani had a clause in his contract and the president of Napoli would not be bullied into selling below that.

Cavani was in no rush to leave Napolvas they have Champions League and would strengthen to win Serie A. Where as Suarez wants out for Champions League football and is unhappy at Liverpool.

Cavani also does not come with a 6 game ban and a shattered reputation that Suarez does.

So overall 35 to 40 million pounds is what Suarez should go for.

G95

I see your point but Van Persie is technically miles better player then Suarez, And doesn't come with all the excess baggage that bitey does.
He also doesn't want to play for you any more. I think 40 Million is above market value. But the city, chelski, monaco psg etc have made the market ridiculous.

With his reputation and his lack of commitment, his is in no way worth anyway near £55million. I would not want Wenger to spend anything over £35million on him

19 Jul 2013 13:14:56
If you care about the so called baggaes why are u after him.
infact were you after higuain and you lost him.
were you after jovetic and you lost him.

I ll tell you the reality. he would score more gaols than your front 3 combined. and wenger knows this.

And regarding the CL. yes you are in Cl, so as shakthar, porto, benfica or whoever.
you would get out of the Cl in the group stage or maximum at the knockout.
coz. this arsenal wouldn't beat any top side.

Domestic. jesus. when were you fighting for the title? As usual you would be fighting for the 4th spot like every year.

No offence. But that's reality. with wenger moving next summer and a new manager. I can see a transition looming.

Its been years you have won any trophies. anything.

Luis suarez moving to arsenal to win trophies makes absolutly no sense.

19 Jul 2013 14:13:30
Pasty Rash.

Didnt you got 24 mill on a 29 year old RVP who refused to play for you to get a trophy who was in his last year of contract?

RVP in his 7 years of long spell only managed 20+ goals in 3 seaosns. and you say he is miles better than Suarez?

jesus. I get youe love for RVP. but don't be blind.
RVP scored more goals from tap ins than Suarez

Check your facts.
If suarez wouldn't have been banned he would have reached 40+ goals last seaosn.

He has much more of a chance to win trophies at arsenal than liverpool. take suarez out of the equation and compare the 2 squads. arsenal are miles ahead and the leage table proves it. if you didn't have him last season, where would u have finished? Arsenal finished much higher without suarez so adding him to our squad wouldn't put us far away from the title

19 Jul 2013 14:31:18
3434.

Jesus christ. If he ain't committed. why would you wanna pay club record for a player who wouldn't commit with your team?

Y are some arsneal fans being really Biased?

You need a world class striker?. You must pay world class fees.
this is the sole reason you missed on Jovetic and Higuain.

RVP never once came out and said he didn't want to play for Arsenal unlike Suarez who has spoken about leaving Liverpool at every opportunity he has had.

G95

19 Jul 2013 08:24:15
So Liverpool want 55 mil for their man real want 37 for their man, what do we do now AW bluff has badly backfired?

Stupid valuation

As a player he probably is worth 45m

As a member of a football club and representative of our values and ethics - that reduces his value immensely

If he has a clause in his contract at 40m, then Pool are blowing smoke. It's their own stupid fault.

Issue for Pool is the money in the bank is pointless as top top players won't sign for them unless they have a 25 year memory as they don't challenge for the league and are not in CL now. Sorry to say this as I kinda like Pool due to their history but they are in a strange place.

SY4

I don't understand - you guys already have a forward line of Podolski, Giroud, Walcott and Cazorla (not counting Gervinho). Why would Wenger want Suarez, who according to you, is loathsome and detestable? I don't get it

Singred (LFC fan)

Higuain is a quality striker but is not in the mega class of RVP, Falcao, Suarez, etc so should be around 25-30 million pounds.

Suarez is a mega talented footballer and would under normal circumstance be sold for around 50 million pounds but with him wanting out, the baggage he brings and the 6 game ban that comes with him he is worth around 35-40 million pounds.

G95

19 Jul 2013 11:59:51
SY4.

you are delude. Yes I agree we are not in CL. and you. crash out everyyear by december. and then fight for 4th spot.
when have you challenged for the title?
Jesus man. and please don't start about the ethics.
Ronaldo has said more than 100 times, how he feels sick of madrid. what's he worth? 20 mill?.

Singerd

Dude suarez can ghit more goals than all of the above mentioned players combind. with ban or without ban.

Because we lack a 30 goal a season striker. Defensively we were pretty good, barring stupid mistakes. but we didn't score enough.

Singred,

The last time you won it was the League not the premier league. I think the photos were in black and white if I remember. Long long time ago. Can't remember you challenging since.

SY4

19 Jul 2013 08:03:32
I'm afraid we're becoming a laughing stock. We used to be respected but now we're in danger of making public fools of ourselves. Not being able to land a decent striker makes last year's decision to sell RVP even more ridiculous or amateurish as someone else put it. Last year no money this not quite enough. Then we have Wenger confidently telling man u Cesc is not for sale - what kind of mug will he look if they buy him.
This is turning into a nightmare.

Jayjay

We are not a laughing stock.

There are greedy clubs and greedy agents with limited players to buy.

Then add the papers and Internet

SY4

It was fabregas.

Jayjay

Why do you think we are a laughing stock?

Just because we don't sign someone for a ridiculous sum? Well that makes everyone but Real, Barcelona, City, Paris, United, Chelski and Bayern a laughing stock!

Just because we won't be blackmailed by Real to pay circa £35m for Higuain rather than the £24m we were about to sign him for?

Or maybe because actually Arsene hasn't publicly stated who he is and isn't going to sign, yet somehow we are a laughing stock when we don't sign someone the media have invented our interest in?

Oh or maybe that like Dortmund we are trying to build up not just waste billions?

Of course it could be that in the last few years we have managed to go through the kind of change that bankrupts others, kept competitive, and have emerged wealthy with the infrastructure for success that will last beyond our lifetime?

A laughing stock? The only laughing stock are those who lack the loyalty and insight to see this as just spit vitriol. Sorry but it's just how it is.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

19 Jul 2013 15:26:05
Blah blah blah Arsene apologist. Putting low bids in all over the place smacks of headless chicken to me. Having to ship out all the 'mistakes'. Having to sell our best players to our rivals. It all looks a bit hopeless Terry old boy.

Interesting use of words. I get frustrated by Arsene and think I can see the same weaknesses others see in him. But I don't feel the need to apologise for the man that bought us more success than any other manager, changed us from boring and depressing to one of the most exciting sides in the world, and that gave us Thierry, Cesc, Wilshere, Pires, Cazorla, Vieira and so many more. Oh and the man that has transformed us from an also run on the edge of the worlds top fifty teams to at the edge of the best dozen in the world. Oh and secured our future for us and fans to come.

Blah blah indeed - nicely put.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

19 Jul 2013 08:01:13
I am still very hopeful for this transfer window.
And am not worrying at all. I think wenger is doing the right stuff behind the scenes to get the players we need.

I believe there are 2 possible dates of any announcements, 8th of August at the Arsenal members day (very excited I'm going) or 28th of August after our champions league games. It may be fickle but it's what big name players want, CL games and potential to win.

For me I'm not to sure about Suarez, don't get me wrong he's an amazing player but I just don't like his attitude, I want to see silverware and love my club but I've always had this dream state of arsenal being 'nice' family run affair ha. I'm waffling now.

Any who, pushing boundaries I'd still like to see higuain, Bernard. And a GK, ( stekelenberg 1st choice unavailable) is ter stegen still available?

Any who I'm seeing a busy transfer window and am
Excited for the new season.

Thanks for reading

19 Jul 2013 07:04:22
Liverpool now want 55 mill, WHAT just go and buy higuain and let them keep a striker who wants out.

19 Jul 2013 10:10:26
You don't know about suarez. When he is on the pitch. he is agoal scoring machine.
he doesn't care about any emotions. and he has world cup next year. he would give 110 % to any club he plays.
dont jump into conclusions.
There is a logic in his desire to move to Real, because they fight for titles.
arsenal and liverpool are almost fighting for 4th spot year in year out
we already pay him 120k week. you won't pay anything more than this amount.
so we are in no hurry to sell him.

and once things settle down. he would bang 30+ goals

19 Jul 2013 00:44:21
Hi guys,

So Jovetic has signed for Man city. quite upsetting to see time and time again a player that we have been linked with going to another club. I doubt we'll go for the Hig now considering the absurd price Madrid are now asking for after Napoli registered their interest with the abundance of cash they have.

Only other striker that I consider being a marquee signing that we're in for is Suarez, and if we don't get him, I know I will feel severely let down.

Eds, what other world class, marquee esque strikers could we be in for?

Many thanks,

CopthorneGooner {Ed027's Note - If you consider Jovetic Marquee then Suarez is a dream

I'm not saying Jovetic is a marquee signing, I'm merely saying that yet again a player that we've been heavily linked with signs for another club, especially one in the EPL. If we were to fail in capturing Suarez, who would be our "marquee" signings? The only one I can think of at the moment would be Fellaini. {Ed027's Note - Rooney, Higuain, De Rossi, I reckon anyone over 15+ will be 'Marquee' for us

No doubt Suarez is a world class talent, but am I the only one who doesn't want a racist cheating cannibal at our club?

We r linked with 100 s of player each season u must get upset very often! we lost interest in this player a long time ago!

Doesn't sound great but I want him he is a great player who could make us challenge, we need him

Matt I agree with you but you have to admit the guy knows how to find the net and win games. Very surprised that Wenger would even consider someone with such ill discipline, can only imagine its a smoke screen for another big target.

Mark1234

Iraajv have you by any chance thought that the reason we didn't get him is that wenger didn't want him? Jovetic would have been an arsenal player if wenger had wanted him but it didn't happen as it was only ever speculation. He scored 13 goals in Italy last season where the strikers we have here already each scored more than that. City have just wasted their money and I am glad we have not got him as he is NOT good enough to wear the arsenal shirt!

Kent gooner

I'm with you Matt, Suarez is a disgrace as far as I'm concerned! I don't want him in our league and certainly don't want him at our club.

1404

Well said Matt. Add to that 6 of a 10 match ban still to serve and he's a dead ringer for another 5-10 matches worth of bans during any season he plays.

Copthorne. Nice golf course.
GG

19 Jul 2013 00:37:37
eds I no u keep saying that were jumping to conclusions saying that were not going to get higuain and suarez, but do you actually think we are going to sign one of them? it really just dosnt look positive I know your saying there is still plenty of time in the window and wenger is keeping his options open but all the option are slowly getting signed and with how long we are taking it seems like we are going to miss out yet again, cheers {Ed027's Note - yes I do

19 Jul 2013 00:15:17
Ed it seems as though the Higuain deal is dead in the water, I can't understand why we seemed to pull out of the Jovetic deal, especially seeing as we can actually afford him and a month ago it looked a dead cert? Thanks for any news you can give me man I appreciate it {Ed027's Note - Difference between afford and willing to pay, we can afford Cavani/Falcao but we won't pay there fee, same issue with Jovetic and Higuain, reports that Madrid increased Higuain's value by 10m Euros killed the deal off. There is clearly bad blood between Madrid and Arsenal which explains the Cazorla to Atletico story which has perez written all over it

19 Jul 2013 00:12:13
We are so sad doing this every year. Ask yourself do you Really think we'll sign Luis Suarez?

Cos for me Fellaini (utd), rooney (chelsea), hig (napoli) all have other destinations in the pipeline and when hig leaves madrid, suarez joins madrid!

Leaving only 1 target that u may NOT want by any estimation but watch for a late bid on Fernando Torres, buy this time us gunners will be begging for his signature, but we'll all have a nail biting end till deadline day with a torres saga and will end up NOT signing him because wenger will bottle it and end up trying to loan him!

The Sack Wenger Gooner