Arsenal Banter Archive January 21 2019

21 Jan 2019 22:22:22
Considering we've now got Raul Sanllehi, Arsenal seem to struggling to get this Suarez deal over the line. I know there's more to it than one guy but ex Barcelona and all that, Mr negotiator and force to be reckoned with? 🤔 we still take an age to get deals done!

21 Jan 2019 23:27:29
Excellent point Glen, it's only January but an early contender for post of the year I'd say!
Well I'm genuinely impressed anyway mate:-)
Anyone got a decent counter argument for why Raul is all he's been cracked up to be?

22 Jan 2019 07:12:20
We’ve been tight forever. Leaving deals to last minute to save money ( wages ) . That plus our wage bill and lack of funds plus rubbish show of a board makes it tricky.

22 Jan 2019 08:44:05
Other clubs can take ages too, rumours always seem to rumble on for weeks. we do stand out as particularly Bad though, especially our way bellow the asking price offers. but I'd imagine it's like trying to buy a house, generally the bloody lawyers fault! He finds an query sends it back, but takes a week doing it, because he had to go out for a cigarette, their lawyers on holiday and he's got someone covering whos not up to date on it all, he's going to have to read it and get back to you in a couple weeks, by which time the original guys back, but he's quite a few things to catch up on, he will try and get to you as soon as possible.

22 Jan 2019 09:04:15
Cheers G62. Perhaps he's too old school for the job now hence leaving Barcelona? There are many people in football nowadays who won't roll over to the demands of the big name agents and directors! All i have seen since he joined Arsenal is that he's causing trouble than good but hopefully he can get this deal done. Ornstein is reporting that the deal isn't even close so i'm not confident.

22 Jan 2019 14:19:38
What trouble have you seen he's caused Glen?

22 Jan 2019 15:04:08
It all might have something to do with ramsey, suarez and Rodriguez/ a n other triangle. i'm sure it will all become clear.

22 Jan 2019 15:36:42
I like Rodders but do we need him for half season? I'd be more inclined to develop from within our own camp than sign a short term statement player. If JR wants to commit that would be different all together but for 5 months it hardly seems worth bothering, now if he was a DM or CB I could see some sense in it.

22 Jan 2019 16:54:13
Well he came in to the club as head of football relations but from reports, what he really wants is to be technical director. Again a lot of reports stating that some of things he's said and done were a key factor in Mislintats decision to leave so soon. Speculation I know but when you look at various news articles it doesn't really point to anything positive. He's Arsenals 'bigwig' when it comes to transfers and contract negotiations but even that still seems to be a struggle. What does he expect to achieve with no money to work with, other than that generated by the club minus overheads?

22 Jan 2019 17:25:04
I keep hearing people complaining about the clubs self sustaining policy but what's the alternative,
Where else would the money come from?
Going into debt is unthinkable so the only other alternative is Stan putting his money in but he's a business man and would want to see a return on any investment he personally funded not watch them run down their contracts in order to either hold the club to ransom for extionate wages beyond their talent or watch them leave Arsenal empty haned as a free agent for mega bucks elsewhere.
If I was Stan and it was my money I'd want to see it as investment not another indulgence as almost all spending has been over our recent history.
If we went on Dragons Den with our track record we'd probably set an all time record for the most Dragons out in the first 30 seconds :-)

22 Jan 2019 19:54:38
The self sustainable model is a problem though G if you want to compele with the elite teams in world football. To not have a penny of investment in 10 years imo is an absolute disgrace, and I reckon I can count on 1 hand how many Arsenal’s games he’s been too since I started supporting them.

Kroenke has invested $1.6 billion to help pay for the new Rams stadium, yet the other club he owns had to pay for the emirates over 10 years out of the funds that the club generated. He has no interest in football and absolutely no interest in how successful we are and it’s embarassing to say that owns the club.

22 Jan 2019 20:55:15
I don't think it's fair to say no investment in 10 years Glen Lacasette Pea Ozil Sanchez Xhaka Mustafi were 230 millions worth of investment, the problem is Sanchez and Ozil returned nothing and Xhaka and Mustafi will leave at a huge loss plus Pea and Lacasette are no spring chickens so it's soon or never to see a return on those two who we simply can't afford to lose.
Liverpool received for Suarez and Coutinho £220 million from what a 40 to 50 million investment?
We need to invest the next £230 million much much more wisely to attract more positive investment.
We are not skint but we aren't anywhere near rich enough to just write off 100s of millions in fees and wages without it affecting future confidence in more investment.
We spent and financially man managed very very poorly over the last 10 years which is where our problems now come from.

23 Jan 2019 11:07:34
Gunner, you need to read the article published by the BBC last week mate. Arsenal are the only club in the top 4 English leagues to not receive a penny of investment from the club owners in the last decade. Those transfers were all funded by the clubs income and that’s the way we work as a club. None of that 230 million was invested by Kroenke mate.

21 Jan 2019 15:30:02
Does the fact that mislintat is going and probably edu coming in, mean with sanllehi, edu and brexit mean we are chasing more south American targets?

21 Jan 2019 17:37:58
I don’t think it works like that Steve. Such a shame really if Guendouzi was one of his then we have effed up seriously 😐.

21 Jan 2019 18:13:15
Turned out to be true then, that's bad news but what can we do?
He did a fantastic job and whatever his reasons for leaving I wish him well and thank him for what he brought to the club in his short 14 month stay, I'm not sure what we paid him but it was probably our best value for money signing for over a decade.
Onwards and upwards is the only way and who knows maybe Dick has a few of his own targets he might get a chance to explore now?

21 Jan 2019 18:45:37
We don’t know if he did a fantastic job really because we have not been given the chance of seeing the fruits of his labour. Obviously a man of principles good luck to the guy.

21 Jan 2019 19:00:21
Sano my thought process being sanllehi was involved with the process of getting south americans to Barcelona and edu is technical director for brazil having been with, i believe corrintians, let me off if i'm wrong. I just wonder wether we are shifting focus, with the prospect of work permit limitations being removed. I may be completely off the scent.

21 Jan 2019 19:13:08
From what I've read he's responsible for all our new players since he took over starting with Pea, so in my book Pea Torreira and Guendouzi alone mean he did a fantastic job in just 2 windows, I think in recent years only Sanchez has made as positive effect as those 3 have sine arriving.

21 Jan 2019 19:19:42
Sorry Steve that was in regards to the brexit bit! I haven’t been watching news but didn’t work out how brexit would attribute to that 👍.

21 Jan 2019 19:46:49
It's a decent theory Steve and potentially an exciting one if we can unearth some young Sanchez Suarez and Aguero types at fees we can offord.
I do think there is an almost limitless supply of fantastic untapped top quality talent out there in this big wide world and Kante and Mahrez at a combined fee of 5.5 million are prime examples of it.

21 Jan 2019 22:21:08
Kante and Mahrez where both born in France 62, no where near South America. 🤔.

21 Jan 2019 23:33:10
Oh really Stoner :-) South of France South America there both lovely places and both coincidently south of Watford:-) need i say more?

22 Jan 2019 09:02:40
62 😂😂. Very Dodgy and if it’s good enough for you, it’s good enough for me. 👍🏼.

21 Jan 2019 13:14:31
You have to feel for Emery, having lost Holding and Welbeck to season ending injuries, now Bellerin looks likely to add a third player to the list.
The interesting thing is that the 5 players brought in by Emery have been relatively injury free.
I hope we manage to sign a couple of players during what's left of the current window. Defensively, we have lost Holding and probably Bellerin, but we have Koscielny back fit and Mavropanos back in training. We also Have Maitland-Niles, Lichtsteiner and Jenkinson for the RB slot. Welbeck is more of a problem as he could fill in across the front three,

21 Jan 2019 14:16:49
I think Denis Suarez will be it I'm afraid. He can play either wing. Hopefully he will be useful.

21 Jan 2019 09:30:18
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