23 Jan 2019 18:49:55
If the figure I'm reading is correct Barcelona want £10 million for Suarez and they are happy for us to have now pay later as long as we commit surely it's a pretty easy decision considering we'd probably ask £10 million for Chambers or Elneny if we sold them.
If that figure is correct then what was hoping they'd ask for him 50 quid?
{Ed002's Note - Someone is teasing you.}
23 Jan 2019 18:59:28
I did guess that might be the case Ed002 mate and considering I once bought a car with 52 extremely careful previous owners, well that's what it said in the ad, I'm starting to think I might come under the heading of gullible :-)
{Ed002's Note - All nuns no doubt. I tried to buy a hearse with my then girlfriend in 1974 to go from Berkeley to find our guru in LA. They were generally similar models to ambulances (a la Ghostbusters) but black. Liveing in Blighted now, I still occasionally still look at hearses for sale and would be interested in a 40s/50s Rolls Royce hearse. Probably not the ideal runabout in the village I live in. A golf buggy would be a better bet.}
23 Jan 2019 19:46:54
I could do you a Ford anglia with 53 previous owners, 52 careful ones and me :-)
23 Jan 2019 19:59:23
It’s amazing how many of us used to think it was Wenger doing the penny pinching, would appear it’s actually just the embarrassment of an owner.
Can’t beat making your own club look pathetic. 🙄.
23 Jan 2019 20:32:50
im surprised they haven't made more of a show of spending a bit of money the first few windows to scapegoat wenger, cynic that i am, that's what i would of done. now i'm surprised there isn't more being made of us not spending much in the summer and having no money now and only being able to make loans. i remember a few years back when wenger was getting flak for not spending gazidas or someone coming out and saying the was a lot of money in the bank to spend that never really apeared.
{Ed002's Note - Well they are not Childish and there have not been a few windows since he left. It is nothing about the amounts of money being spent, it is about the improvements that come to the squad - regardless of what they cost.}
23 Jan 2019 21:52:25
Wenger did spend, he spent a lot of money, just not very well. We are the 3rd highest net spenders of the last 5 years. It not what we spend but the way we have spent it and sold.
23 Jan 2019 22:28:17
When it comes to the club spending and investing then just for one minute consider what has been invested in the past decade on players as if it was our own money.
Imagine if each of us had extended our mortgages and put in £10,000 of our money to fund our past spending, how would we feel about our £10,000 now being worth only £2,000 in assets?
It's easy when it's someone else's money your talking as if it's fantasy football monopoly money but the fact is the money lost is real and it all belongs to real people (shareholders etc) who aren't keen to take another huge loss on investments like they have done in the recent past. Assets walking away on free's or simply becoming so devalued it's incredibly.
This is just my way of trying to understand the clubs backers and shareholders reluctance to throw good money after bad without some kind of sense of security of something be different and a reason to think the return might be positive this time.
24 Jan 2019 09:30:42
I wasn’t talking about whether we did or didn’t spend money, clearly we did but how many times did we hear about Arsenal arguing over what are small amounts in the world of Premier League football.
The owners, allegedly, want to win titles, personally don’t believe that 💩e for a minute, but if you do you need to speculate to accumulate.
Do they not trust a brand new manager they’ve just installed. Are they not actually bothered about Champions League football.
24 Jan 2019 10:37:51
Hi Stoner of course your right you do need to speculate to accumulate but when all your previous speculation has resulted in nothing but losses you've got to think more carefully about future speculation.
I'm just trying to see the clubs point of view as well as seeing it purely from a fans point of view.
As an Arsenal fan I would spend someone else's money quite happily but if I had to stump up £1000 of my own money I'd not only Want signings that improved us I'd want to see my £1000 worth a £1000 in 2 or 3 years time if not much more.
We can't and shouldn't go the way of Liverpool of old under Benitez where money was simply written off on a whim but equally we shouldn't be run like Newcastle under Ashley.
Sustainable development and investment that in turn brings profits that fund future signings sounds like a fair middle to me.
Klopp net spend over 3.5 years is 101 millions I'm sure Dick will get that and probably much more if we stop simply wasting what we have with poor financial management of our assets.
24 Jan 2019 10:55:46
Hi 62,
We have made big changes since Wenger left and Milinstat brought in 5 players, he is now surplus to requirements and we don’t want to bring anyone in.
Has this to do with him leaving, he was supposed to be one of the best for player recruitment.
So now we have no faith in him and the new manager?
Doesn’t appear to matter who is fronting the club we don’t want to move forward mate.
24 Jan 2019 12:42:30
That might be true Stoner and if it proves to be that way then it won't take the stadium long to empty, if the fans will say enough is enough to Arsene and stay away then absolutely no one is safe from fans voting with their feet.
Respect for Arsene was the only thing holding everything together during our 4th place happy trophy years and neither Dick Stan or anyone else has the history Arsene had to fall back on.
It's a new beginning post Arsene and I'm trying to see everyone's point of view and think the best of all parties until given no other choice, none of us really know what went on during our 10 year decline from champions to near enough being plenty good enough, first of all it was the big bad boards fault but then it seemed it was Arsene himself not wanting to deviate from his own philosophy and cosy boys gang.
Time will tell but we have since Lacasette and Pea buys spent 170 millions with only Theo and Ox sales bringing in any return value of around 55 million.
We have invested over 100 million more than we've received back in the transfer market since change began to happen and I personally think we should give it until next August at least before we write anyone off as villians or announce them as heroes either.
We are always going to spend more like Liverpool and Spurs than City and United that's obvious but Liverpool and Spurs have spent well in recent years with much of their spending being funded by sales and we simply haven't prior to summer 2017 spent well or had the luxury of selling big to fund new players because our buys haven't generated any profits to reinvest with.
Let's wait and see what happens by the close of this and next summers widows because we will have a far far better idea of what is or isn't different about the club post Arsene by then.
{Ed001's Note - they all set up offshore companies to handle their image rights money which was made illegal afterwards and now the Spanish govt is going after them, even if it happened before then.}