Arsenal Banter Archive July 25 2018

25 Jul 2018 17:19:38
Do you see ozil or Ramsey as our number 10 next season.

25 Jul 2018 19:16:14
It's both of thems best positions but Mesut is better at it, I see no where other than there where Aaron is better than decent, in midfield the Scorpion kicks are fantastic and runs into the box are excellent but the game saving tackles are non existent.

25 Jul 2018 20:12:47
Ozil is our best 10 by far but ramsey is more versatile from deeper.

25 Jul 2018 22:38:37
Ramsey is an attacking minded player who in big games might chip in with a bit of graft, cup games ect with a medal attached but ultimately he's only interested in being involved in the goals for column not stopping goals against, the deeper or wider he's played the weaker Arssnal become.

Supporting the attack is his game and supporting the defence just not in his natural make up.
Pea Miki Ozil Ramsey Lacasette fitting them all into one attack comes at a cost elsewhere and that elsewhere is team ballance and success.

26 Jul 2018 00:21:03
I agree g62 I think it's hard to fit more than 3 of them in without giving too much work for everyone else. But that's the main thing I hope emery does differently to wenger:either has a magic wand to wave that makes everyone put a shift in and stick to the jobs they're meant to or doesn't bother picking those that don't because their names look better. I'm also really hopeful mkhi can get close to his dortmund form, if he can get close to that, then he should be well ahead of Ramsey too!

26 Jul 2018 09:30:21
Ramsey for me is a bit like Xakha decent enough squad cover but not good enough either as attking midfielder or defensive midfilder to really make a difference in the big games. Ramsey performs best in the Ozil role but just not as good as him and Wenger squeezed him in out wide too many times to the detriment of the team balance. If he is not commited sell up and get either a proper winger or another DM as I think in hard away games you need 2 better defensive midfielders.

26 Jul 2018 00:21:03
I agree g62 I think it's hard to fit more than 3 of them in without giving too much work for everyone else. But that's the main thing I hope emery does differently to wenger:either has a magic wand to wave that makes everyone put a shift in and stick to the jobs they're meant to or doesn't bother picking those that don't because their names look better. I'm also really hopeful mkhi can get close to his dortmund form, if he can get close to that, then he should be well ahead of Ramsey too!

26 Jul 2018 11:24:20
Personally I'd go for

Pea up top with Mesut and Miki behind him Eden mate, but then again I'd play 3 4 3 too as I think it covers an awful lot of areas where we are not yet as strong as we hopefully will become in the years ahead.
I know that isn't Dicks style and that's cool but it's just my preferred formation when you don't have all the players you need to play as you would ideally want.

25 Jul 2018 13:47:51
Anyone see ramseys Interview talking about his future. Didn't seem too committed to the club in my opinion. Really don't think he's going to sign a new deal and If that's the case it's a shame but we need to look at selling him. We need everything to be fresh this season and that includes no will he stay or go players like we have the last few seasons.

25 Jul 2018 14:18:11
Make him available and plan for life without him, if he's not happy with that then I'm sure he will let us know and if it's suits him just fine cool we all know where we stand.
Take control of the situation rather than let players continue to call the tune that suits them best all the time.

25 Jul 2018 15:07:56
Exactly what I was thinking. Did you see the interview it's on sky sports. Maybe I've read him wrong but he didn't seem too fussed about staying.

25 Jul 2018 15:13:34
Now I know Emery has said he likes the player but I’m starting to think it may be the club who’s having reservations. The player we’re talking about is hurt every season and I’m sure that’s what’s hindering a possible new contract. Arsenal have probably drawn a line in the sand in terms of how much money per week they’re willing to give Ramsey and he’s, in all likelihood, looking for considerably more—hence the stand still. Ramey’s a quality player but it wouldn’t be catastrophic if he had to be sold. However I’m also weary of how many real suitors the lad has out there. Guys like Alexis and Oxlade-Chamebrlain had several teams vying for their service and it was well known. that just hasn’t been the case with Ramsey, which is why I believe a deal will eventually be struck between the two sides.

25 Jul 2018 15:33:51
Lets not hang around if he is not commited to a new deal then sell up and get a replacment. I would rather sell Xhaka than Ramsey to be hoenst but we can't keep allowing payers to run down their contracts or blackmailing us into silly wages like this. Ideally we need a winger and for me another more defensive mid for the hard away games when you need 2 really. Ramsey should fetch a half decent price if sold now certainly enough to get N'zongzi, romours on this leon Bailey as a winger also.

25 Jul 2018 15:36:15
Agreed Q as with Mesut there wasn't a very long que of clubs seeking his services either, while Sanchez and Ox had city United and Chelsea Liverpool making bids for them.
Aaron is good when he's good but pretty much a me me me player looking for headlines much of the time, when Arsene played him on the right he just did his own thing rather than what was asked for the team.
If you have room for him to play in the hole i think Aaron could be brilliant but in cmf or out wide he's pretty so so a lot of the time.

25 Jul 2018 16:24:32
Oh wow! I heard the interview and thought it was just a matter of details between player and club. the fact he is talking like this just means he expects an agreement to come through. I think probably Ramsey want a contract similar to Özils since he is a key player.

25 Jul 2018 16:38:44
Knowing that Ozil has a deal worth in excess of £300,000 per week, I am certain Ramsey's agent is pressing for a high salary.
There needs to be a decision soon as we cannot afford to allow his contract to run down, if we are able to sell him for the reported £40-50m.

25 Jul 2018 17:08:05
Im sure the clock is ticking, someone will make a move in the next week. Ramsey is useless to us unless he commits to a new contract. We all know it isn't a satisfactory situation and leads to chaos further down the line. We as a club can't survive letting players go on a free and selling others for peanuts because they are not good enough. While others are selling players for huge amounts around us and reinvesting. I do belive the residue of the wenger failed years will be sorted in this or the next window and we can then start trying to build again with the players that are for arsenal fc. All ready the team has a non wenger look about it and if ramsey stays or goes, ultimately doesn't matter but his situation does for afc.

25 Jul 2018 17:16:32
The bloke misses half a season each year through injury and the 50% of the time he's available he's not exactly the talk of the premier league like Kante KDB Salah Kane Hazard and Silva.
Can be good on his day but vastly
over rated compared to plenty of other premier players who do it in most games season in season out.
If Ramsey was so good we'd have Barcelona Real Juve PSG banging on our door not to mention utd City Chelsea. But not one of those clubs have shown any interst despite him being so gettable with just a year left on his contract.
Mesut like contract of 300k for a player no big club wants?
Why would we even think of giving him that?
He's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is and the fact he's in such little demand elsewhere should tell him that.
Arsenal would be better off without him and signing a player who thinks playing for our club is something special and not a fall back plan if all else fails.

25 Jul 2018 17:54:32
Gunner, ramsey, like the rest of our "british core" that wenger invested our future in, were stopped in their progress by long term injuries and fleeting form. He is a "good" player for us if he commits to a reasonable contract andxstays fit, if not he can be sold to whoever he thinks he's good enough to go to and want to pay more than we are prepared to pay. We only need good commited players.

25 Jul 2018 19:23:08
Steve we've had a generation of players asking " what will you give me not to leave on a free next summer "
The question needs to be to be reversed and us to ask the players
" if we let you stay what can you offer Arsenal "
1 man wiling is worth 10 men who can be bought by anyone for the right price.

25 Jul 2018 19:30:27
He's a bit of a hindrance more than a help his best position is no 10, but he's no where near as good as ozil and never going to displace him, he's exceptional cover for ozil, but not worth anywhere near his wages (ozils not either obviously) but he is one of our most talented players and so wenger picked him, but he lacks the defensive awareness and discipline to play a deeper role, always bombing forward or the pace to be effective on the wing and goes AWOL drifting inside leaving the flank exposed, far better to sell him and buy a winger that makes the team better than try and shoehorn him into a team that leaves us unbalanced.

25 Jul 2018 20:15:57
Eden agree but i think Dick thinks he may be able to fit both in his system. If he stays, it will be interesting to see, if he goes, torreira, nzonzi with ozil ahead looks tasty.

26 Jul 2018 16:30:35
Gunner, the british core was an abject failure, it never achieved what it was meant too. We owe ramsey nothing, he owes us.

25 Jul 2018 09:06:02
Saying in sky gazidis is going Milan in september.

25 Jul 2018 09:46:04
Can't see how anything changes if he does or doesn't go, if he does someone will replace him if he doesn't it's one more in the already over crowed false news stories column from fantasy football headquarters itself.
By Skys own admission 80% of their stories are false so why even listen to someone who is 4 times more likely to be wrong than they are right?

25 Jul 2018 12:19:39
They admitted that? Surely that can't be good for business! 😂.

25 Jul 2018 15:17:18
It's a bit like reading your horoscope Eden mate, if your in need of some good news and optimism then they will supply it for you mate.
Accuracy doesn't come into it becausepeople aren't supposed to take Mystic Meg or Sky seriously.

Someone with a blue car will on tonight's lotto and Benzema will leave Real, if you sat it often enough sooner or later your bound to get lucky somewhere along the line :-) .
In the the 19th century some bloke used to predict if your baby was going to be a boy or girl for a fee that if he was wrong was totally 100% refunded, he simply predicted boy every time and made a fortune and had a brilliant reputation for accuracy too :-)

25 Jul 2018 15:17:18
It's a bit like reading your horoscope Eden mate, if your in need of some good news and optimism then they will supply it for you mate.
Accuracy doesn't come into it becausepeople aren't supposed to take Mystic Meg or Sky seriously.

Someone with a blue car will on tonight's lotto and Benzema will leave Real, if you sat it often enough sooner or later your bound to get lucky somewhere along the line :-) .
In the the 19th century some bloke used to predict if your baby was going to be a boy or girl for a fee that if he was wrong was totally 100% refunded, he simply predicted boy every time and made a fortune and had a brilliant reputation for accuracy too :-)