Arsenal Banter Archive August 28 2014

 

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28 Aug 2014 22:44:20
Hi ed do you know if tevez is available? What would you think he would be worth? Love him at arsenal

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{Ed002's Note - Random names - I don't have time.}

28 Aug 2014 22:38:34
Thank Goodness that Zigic rumour isn't true. I swear ta God I would rather have Wenger himself play upfront than that eejit

"Look at me, I'm Tall. Pay me thousands of pounds a week to run around a football pitch, showing everyone how tall I am."

That's some sliding scale from him to Cavani.

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28 Aug 2014 22:37:47
Utd want Carvalho, we want Carvalho
If he has ambition we win
If he wants money time to move on for us.
Lou Van itsnotmydosh will pay him wages what it takes get him there.
Arsene will leave us in 3 years time with the best team he can and the books very nicely balanced in our favour

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28 Aug 2014 22:37:25
I have NEVER agreed more with a post more than I have with Original AG lower down. Why the heck do people want a striker who holds the ball up? All great strikers I have ever known like to take defenders head on!If I was a defender, I wouldn't be scared of marking Olly G. But Sanchez with pace to burn and dribbling? That's the stuff defenders' nightmares are made of. The striker would be a sniper in war terms, so if anyone should be taking shots at goal, it should be the person who is most likely to score and that should be the striker, bar Messi and Ronaldo of course

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29 Aug 2014 08:21:45
Great post, Arsene purchased him from what he saw him doing in the World Cup and for Barca.

He is getting used to us and the Premier League whilst getting back to full fitness.

I love it when a top player works his socks off too. We have a great player make no mistake.

With Theo back and a couple more in before the window closes we can be proper scary.

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^^ Because that's the system we play.

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28 Aug 2014 21:38:41
Eds are we still interested in Jackson Martinez

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{Ed027's Note - nope

28 Aug 2014 21:54:12
Is it just me No I don't think so, some pundits and even my friends think Arsenal can go all the way in the CL. And no I am not dreaming.

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On yesterdays showing I'd say wake up and have some cornflakes

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28 Aug 2014 22:27:39
If we make two great signings not including a decent CB then yes we may have a chance, as we are we'd seriously need to be riding our luck.

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Yes we can win it. Just as long as we don't play, real madrid, bayen munich, Barcelona, psg or athletico madrid. Plus avoid chelski, and sheikh city.

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What's it like in that bubble?

Which pundits are these then?

:)

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28 Aug 2014 23:02:12
Can't see it to be honest.

The group stage is difficult, but winable.

Dortmund will be hard, but we beat them in Germany last year, but they beat us at Emirates.
No Lewandowski to worry about but they have bought well in Ciro Immobile and Adrian Ramos. Toughie.

Galatasaray is winnable, as long as we keep Sneidjer and Buruk Yilmaz quiet.

Anderlecht.
I think to qualify, we need to beat them home and away, plus win at home against the other 2 and boom, in the bag.

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28 Aug 2014 20:43:24
Ed's with your superior transfer Knowledge would you expect Carvalho or Reus to make a move this transfer window.

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

28 Aug 2014 20:57:56
Everybody seems to be writing Manchester United off already, which is unfair.

I believe Louis Van Moyes just needs time to settle in, and than next season they will be Champions.

My prediction.

1. Man Utd.
2. Sheff Wedn
3. Rotherham
4. Bolton.
5. Bournemouth.

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Very good Dags! Clever!

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28 Aug 2014 22:05:32
Thanks Doc :-)

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That really made me laugh Dags.

I'm still coming for you though!

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28 Aug 2014 23:43:41
Rue,

Like I said earlier, me Messi, you Carlton Cole, lol.

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28 Aug 2014 20:47:03
I have never said this before but I have never felt more confident since the days of PV4, TH14, FL8 etc. I really think this year will be exciting, trophies or not. I liked what I saw against Besiktas because I saw our boys harassing for the ball and endless running. We didn't suffer much from not having AR16 in the lineup although it would have helped. All in all, happy to be a gooner and have always been.

Gooner since '85

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28 Aug 2014 20:45:12
Not so much a rumour but a friend and I have been talking and both think that Christian Benteke could be the perfect solution to our striker problem! He is strong, fast and good on the counter and has expressed his support for Arsenal. Have there been any whispers of this around because I have seen nothing and he seems like a great choice!

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{Ed025's Note - good shout that BC..

Coming back from a major injury though, will he be the same?

Purely for the fact that he is available for transfer, quality and experienced Lavezzi imo would not be a bad signing

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When I said that last season got laughed off the page. Now in thinking our bank balance seems to be a bit dtronger so let's aim higher.

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28 Aug 2014 19:58:48
Aman,

All cool mate, maybe I read your post wrong.

Apologies if I did.

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Apologies accepted, now let's get some real Banter on here, CL draw a ring of last season Aye.

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28 Aug 2014 19:14:43
I'm off to the England game next week, have to say I am sad to see three England players in the squad, the last we need are more injuries

I am not sure why he needs to see Ox or Wilshire, Chambers yes but the other two. scratching head

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28 Aug 2014 22:07:02
Bambam,

That's 3 more injuriesvfor us than :-(

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Dags I just don't get the England set up, I was at the Denmark game earlier in the year when Jack got injured, what was the point of playing him, we were in the middle of a vital set of PL fixtures. me thinks wenger needs to start playing the games SAF did and get some lads on the treatment table on Sunday evening

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28 Aug 2014 23:56:40
Make you right mate.

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28 Aug 2014 19:13:24
gunner62,

Was just reading through the earlier posts, give yourself a massive pat on the back: your prediction below.

Arsenal, Dortmund, Galatasaray and Anderlecht.

Brilliant, now what are we going to win this year and who are we going to buy by 11pm Monday night. :-)

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28 Aug 2014 20:37:23
Absolutely amazing.

Respect G62.

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Thanks Red, we seem to always get teams we've been in the same group with the year previous hence I thought Dortmund were likely and the other two were just a gut feeling.
Transfer predictions
Khedira just can't shake off the feeling it will happen, striker Bony or if the worst happens son of Dagala.
As for winning things?
CL we will play Real in the SF, to early to say which way it will go :-)
PL 3RD place disappointing to some extent but at least no qualifier For next seasons CL.
League cup 4th round exit there
FA cup we will retain beating Chelski in QF and Liverpool in the final its self.
In short the FA cup is to become our new trophy we can't shake off replacing the 4th place trophy.
Sorry that's all I can guarantee at this stage mate :-)

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Amazing G62, last time we got the Ozil and this time.

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Could have been worse but could have been better. Reckon we'll top the group though

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Never mind football. on that form what's the lottery numbers going to be this weekend G62!

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I'm still working on that Epping mate :-)

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28 Aug 2014 18:51:31
What do you call a Manchester United director in monaco.

A tourist

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{Ed025's Note - good one WG.. :)

Or a resident.

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28 Aug 2014 22:19:06
A jobseeker.

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A lost alcoholic

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28 Aug 2014 18:13:08
Rhetorical question as I know it won't happen. But if United are willing to get rid of Kagawa, would you lot take him.

I'm a fan of the player and think that he never got a real chance at United. If they were to sell at around £10m I'd be very tempted.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont think a playmaker is a priority ted...DM and a striker for me mate..

Absolutely Ed, but I just think that, again hypothetically, if we bought in all the necessary positions, he would be a nice luxury signing.

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I don't see why would he come from one bench to another bench.

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Poor mans cazorla for me

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28 Aug 2014 18:08:04
Just seen the groups for the Champions League.
They seemed to have missed out which group Manchester United are in.
:-) :-)

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28 Aug 2014 18:03:48
Stewards and Sniffer dogs were searching in the stands just after the second half of the MK Dons v Manchester United game.
Reports from MK Dons officials stated that they were looking for Man Uniteds strikers and midfielders.

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28 Aug 2014 18:00:42
Manchester Uniteds dressing room minutes before they played Arsenal when we lost 8-2.
" Right boys I want you to go out there and kick them Arsenal players all over the pitch. Kick them in the nuts, elbow them in the eyes and headbut them. Do as much damage as you want" Be offside it doesn't matter either"
Then the door opens and Alex Ferguson walked in.
" Thanks for that Ref. I will take over from here" :-)

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{Ed025's Note - love it golds..

28 Aug 2014 17:52:59
Good draw for Liverpool, 3rd tier bucket but easier draw than City and us!

Chelsea got an easy draw also

Tough draw for us - let's pull in a few quality signings to pull us thru for sure

Group A: Atletico Madrid, Juventus, Olympiakos, Malmo.

Group B: Real Madrid, Basel, Liverpool, Ludogorets.

Group C: Benfica, Zenit, Leverkusen, Monaco.

Group D: Arsenal, Dortmund, Galatasaray, Anderlecht.

Group E: Bayern Munich, Man City, CSKA, Roma.

Group F: Barcelona, PSG, Ajax, Apoel.

Group G: Chelsea, Schalke, Sporting, Maribor.

Group H: Porto, Shakhtar, Bilbao, Borisov.

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On paper we should go through that group

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{Ed025's Note - i agree BG, unfortunately its due to be played on grass.. :)

Lol. Ed005 is back at his best!😃

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{Ed025's Note - so is ED025.. :)

Which is why I said on paper ED ;)

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Not a easy group by any means but we should be more than capable of going through weather we can top the group ahead of Dotmund though is another question.

Man City have the hardest one out of the English clubs with a away trip to Russia thrown in.

Liverpool had about the best they could have hoped for being in pot 3 they have decent chance to qualify there behind Real.

Chelsea as usual get a nice straight forward one

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I don't think this is an easy group for Liverpool. Madrid will win the group obviously but Basel are no push-overs

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28 Aug 2014 17:51:46
After the MK Dons game. Manchester United have decided to save money on kits by simply strapping a large fake wellington boot to their foreheads. It then becomes clear to all as to which side they are on.

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28 Aug 2014 17:45:02
So I suppose our chances of Getting dortmund defender dramatically reduced.

Not sure what the options are here. Wenger leaving it very late!

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28 Aug 2014 17:33:40
Hi Eds. Edison Cavini rumour not going away. . mind you. I definitely have been sniffing exhaust fumes

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28 Aug 2014 17:20:25
Fudge me, Dortmund again

No last minute bid for reus then.

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28 Aug 2014 07:21:53
PLEASE POST THIS ON BANTER PAGE ED.
AMAN. Re your post below concerning the Jack Wishere haters. Well seeing as I've taken enough stick over posts that I have made on the subject I also feel that your comments are aimed at the likes of me. So let me explain something.
I am not going to bother posting on here and saying what everyone wants to hear what is the point of that? . Secondly Jacks performance last night was adequate for the night it was no World Class performance it was not memorable it was just enough. But that is considering his last performances have been average to say the least. In saying that Ozil had an awful game I thought and although Santi seemed. to have a better game he has gone of the boil lately.
Sanchez worked his socks off and the Ox and Debuchy turned in a great performance but for the ridiculous second yellow card which I believe FIFA have got to start looking at and introduce Sin Bins for non violent contacts as its ruining the game. But that's another subject.
Anyhow I'm with Dagenham when he said that its comments like you made that want him to take a bit of time out. I've done it before I know where he is coming from. I wish people would leave it out with the snidey remarks your not sounding clever in fact you are alienating yourselves in a lot of people's eyes. There is no point in saying it was said tongue in cheek as you should start thinking before you open your mouth so to speak. We are not 10 year old kids we know what you are insinuating and to who. So try and keep it pleasant. There are enough mugs and keyboard warriors on here to keep this site going for the next 100 years mate. This site is not called ' Slag Someone Off ' it's called Arsenal Rumours and Arsenal Banter.

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28 Aug 2014 20:38:57
Top post Golds.

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28 Aug 2014 23:39:17
Jack was awesome last night and did a damn sight more than 'just enough' give the guy some credit when it's due.

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Have been bogging wilshere up recently, I was at the game last night and I thought he was poor, a lot of fans in the clock end saying they would hands down accept 10mil for him. Ozil, was good in my opinion. It is his nonchalant style which makes him look poor, he is in actuall fact very accurate, very good touch and dynamic

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{Ed027's Note - there's no way you were at the game if you thought Wilshere was poor

29 Aug 2014 01:12:14
You couldn't make this stuff up. . oh wait he did

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Saint also said we were silent,

true for the 1st half, but second I could hear us loud and clear. after leaving a game I usually remember both halves.

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28 Aug 2014 16:54:05
Tevez have we any interest

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

28 Aug 2014 16:26:18
Any truth to the Falcao rumours ed. Apparently our representatives are in.Monaco, can you see a striker arrive before deadline day, much appreciated.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know of any Falcao rumours. I have explained that Arsenal have people in Monaco.}

28 Aug 2014 16:31:44
Taking into account it was a great team effort last night, with a few honourable mentions, I actually thought Flamini, bar that one mistake, had a fantastic game last night, he seemed to be everywhere.

Or am I alone in thinking that?

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I have to agree. Thought it was one of his best games for Arsenal since returning.

I actually think Monreal had a really solid game (and I was very nervous about him covering Gibbs) but fair play.

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Just a reminder of who we actually played last night, if we have any real ambition then this sort of side should be no competition

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28 Aug 2014 18:07:12
For all intents and purpose it was like a cup final game with immense pressure and he had a great game. Not sure why you would do him down. Odd.

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28 Aug 2014 16:31:11
So I can now hope for:

Papastathopoulos
Carvalho
Cavani or Remy

I would be happy if we ended up with that list, even if Cavani dropped off.

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28 Aug 2014 15:26:43
What are people's views on this yellow card fiasco.
Personally I feel that we should introduce a Sin Bin maybe for 15 minutes. I'm seeing a lot of second yellow cards getting shown for what I would call minor things then of course it gets followed up with the red. Take Debuchy last night as an example. Did his offences really! justify him being sent off for the rest of the game? Of course they never. It ruins the game for the supporters who have paid their money whether watching live or at home. I think a sending off should be for an offence that is serious or deliberate enough to cause injury. Not for putting your hand on someone's shoulder and holding them back. It's ridiculous. What do you all think?

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I think the current system is fine for fouls it just that sometimes it seems every foul is deemed a yellow card when it is just a foul.

I think the Sin Bin could work for the non bad tackle area. I am talking about the peity things like kicking the ball away, blatent time wasting and over arguing with the ref could be offences that rather than a yellow card would be better served as a short period in such a sin bin. That way the players will still think twice before doing it but games would not get totally spolied by getting 2nd yellow's for such silly things.

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28 Aug 2014 16:17:15
Platini is that you? ;-)

Well interesting idea but I'd rather stick to the current rules. This isn't Hockey.

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28 Aug 2014 17:41:55
I met a guy called Stefan in Majorca around 3 months ago he was German and supported Arsenal he was on holiday with his wife .?

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If it was the other way round and it was a Besiktas player we wouldn't have this convocation about yellow cards because we would all say hooooray he's off.

On a separate issue I thought Debuchy was lucky not to be given a straight Red. Twice he put his hands on the Ref while protesting and you could see the Ref wasn't best pleased.

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28 Aug 2014 21:17:53
Sorry but it wasn't me. :-)

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28 Aug 2014 15:15:07
Pssst this is a secret so don't tell Dags. He thinks his jokes are better than mine but he only started after I left him my old joke book to read through. Anyhow he is on a break now. aren't you Dags?

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28 Aug 2014 19:51:09
What?

And leave you to tell the jokes Golds.

Jeez mate, mine are bad but yours are terrible lol.

I better make a comeback because your jokes are killing this site :-)

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28 Aug 2014 14:54:38
Supposedly if we are not able to get any of our preferred cdm targets, how about signing 2 quality centre backs and using chambers as cdm? Personally I don't think it would be a bad idea as I feel more quality defenders are available this window than cdm who are either overpriced Or not suited to our style! Long wait till monday.

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28 Aug 2014 14:49:33
Rooney being made England captain.?
Can someone sensibly explain why because I am really curious to know. I honestly do not get that one unless the selectors are also shareholders in the hair transplant clinic Rooney went to and this is there way of keeping him quite i'm lost for words.

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I agree Golds but seriously, my opinion of Rooney aside (and it's not a good one) there aren't too many other candidates?

Cahill?
Hart?

The list abruptly ends there. England have a real lack of talented players to pick from which is why chambers has been fast tracked in and why Rooney was one of only 2-3 candidates in the whole country if we're being honest.

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28 Aug 2014 15:08:06
Listening to a lamp noodle like Roy Hodgson try and justify why he has made that jacket potato England captain was a painful few minutes.

Rooney was a quality player maybe 3 or 4 years ago, now he is garbage, how United failed to take the opportunity to off load him when they had a chance both amazes me and makes me happy in equal measure.

Currently the most over rated player in the premiership.

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28 Aug 2014 17:44:18
Well I can't disagree with the Doc and Red Dog there.
Anymore?

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Personally I like the way the Italians pick their captain. Player with the most caps. Now I know that would mean Rooney, but it goes to a player with the most international experience. Pretty sensible if you ask me

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28 Aug 2014 23:31:35
I personally think that Roy should have picked a younger player to be future captain and build a team around. Maybe Cahill. Think Wilshere, Henderson etc are too young. But honestly, England currently have no players that are captain material since Terry, Gerrard and Lampard retired.

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28 Aug 2014 23:42:06
Say what you like about Rooney but I'd swap him for Giroud in a heartbeat.

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29 Aug 2014 00:02:46
First things first, he's our best player. No question.
Secondly a captain is your most influential personality in the dressing room, Manchester United and England have both made him captain, can't be a coincidence.

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I'm not at all worried about Rooney being captain. Then again I'm not English. Take heart that your team is slightly better then mine although we I feel, have a more appropriate captain, I will be sad to see palace relegated (If it happens).

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28 Aug 2014 09:29:24
Ed02 from wenger interview it's looking like there are less chance of signings. That's why I always ask u that u might have some good news for us? Are arsenal in talks for any player? Thanx. I will really appreciate your feply

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{Ed002's Note - I have been travelling all morning so I have nothing new right now.}

28 Aug 2014 15:40:48
You travelling to this super agents boat party with representatives of clubs lol

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{Ed002's Note - I have just travelled back from Monaco.}

28 Aug 2014 16:22:00
THX Ed for sending me a copy of Falcao's signed Arsenal contract. I'll keep it safely (in my pocket :-)

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Ed002, that was cruel matey.

Teasing info that you were in Monaco, but no clarity as to why; barring your earlier reference to the super meeting of agents.

Are you infact an agent?

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{Ed002's Note - Of course not. I am a rodeo clown and part time gentleman adventurer. I make a little extra money as a harpoon sharpener.}

Hmmm, time for some detective work. So you landed 3pm onwards, likely flying out from Nice.

Is your name Darren :P

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That's one of the best edd replies ever :-D

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28 Aug 2014 14:13:22
Is it just me or is it a bit ridiculous that chambers gets called into full England squad? Has he even played for the under 21, s I don't know, but people wonder why England always fail as a team, and players prices are inflated, this is a prime example!

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I completely agree. There is nothing wrong with him being in the Under 21s given that he's not played more than half a dozen games for us and less than 20 for Southampton.

His rise has been meteoric and there are no doubts in my mind that he will be an England and Arsenal regular for a decade or more.

The problem comes when England have no real options at right back. They only have Phil Jones as the only other RB in the squad with Glen Johnson and Kyle Walker injured. Hodgson has no other real option to be honest.

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Decent post mate. I've often wondered if the selection doesn't happen without a little gentle persuasion from a players club. As soon as a player puts on the England shirt his price goes up. It's in the clubs interest money wise for their players to play for their country.

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I agree its quick, but its only a friendly and i'm sure he will go into the u21's after this.

i know his rise seems quick (and I may be wrong) but hasn't he been the under 19s or Under 20's captain for some time?

i do hope wenger keeps him as a centre back, his stats for the start of the season have been better than almost every centerback in the prem for tackles made and won, passes, aerial dues won. plus he has stated he wants to play there, Dare I say but we could finally have another Adams and leader in the making.

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28 Aug 2014 13:29:13
If Wenger doesn't buy a striker we will be fighting for forth spot again, get your finger out of your hole man and stop making up stories that we have enough cover for crying out load get someone decent Giroud is a bit part player at best

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28 Aug 2014 13:42:23
If Wenger admits he's 'needs' a striker, we will be paying for players well over the odds aka Di Maria. However Wenger also has a point, we do have cover and we will have too many players in that position if we bought a world class striker, like Man City Dzeko, Tevez, Ballotelli, Aguero all complained about leaving or/and more money because they were etting no air time. Sanchez given a few more games will mould in that position, he reminded me of Suarez (without the urge of biting).

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If you scream from the rooftops that you need a player you'll end up paying 60M rather than 25M. He will be in the market, just with discretion.

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Wenger hasn't just stepped into management. He is a master of the outright lie to your face and the best poker face in the business.

I would literally not listen to a word hi says regarding transfers and incoming players until they are signed.

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28 Aug 2014 13:17:59
There seems to be a lot of chatter on here about Ozil and his apparent underperformance. I think He gets a lot of criticism, due to his running style and general languid approach. It's just his style. He is one of those athletes who doesn't look like they are pushing hard when they are actually moving at top speed. Usain Bolt doesn't look like he's trying to run fast. Michael Holding didn't look like he was trying to bowl fast. Kevin Durant doesn't like like he's trying to run fast when he beats everyone up the court. Ozil got the assist last night with a lovely 1-2 with Jack. He's just come back from a well deserved holiday after running his socks off for the German national team (for whom he was also harshly critiqued, despite working hard in every game in different roles). He was superb for us for most of last season, but definitely did drop his head after the Bayern game and let his form dip. Have some patience with him, let him get match fit, and enjoy watching him conduct a beautiful Arsenal orchestra. His brilliance will shine through, Mark my words.

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Thank you! I was thinking along the same lines. Good post!

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28 Aug 2014 13:43:31
GREAT POST!!

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OUtback that is the post of the week, let's support this guys world class talent. Will get much better as Sanchez takes the pressure off. My man!

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Yup people need to realize that we aren't going to get a great game from Ozil for 90 full minutes, but he is crucial to the team, even on his worst day.

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28 Aug 2014 12:33:01
So today's rumours after CL qualification are:

Cerci
Rabiot
Anderweireld
Papastathopolous?

Monday could be a very long day!

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28 Aug 2014 12:03:42
Wenger will not sign a striker his words not mine I brought Sanchez in to be my cf he said

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He also didn't know that Giroud would be injured till the New Year.

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He says that he was purchased but as soon a Giroud is Fit again he will be back out wide. Sanchez worked his socks off fair play but he is just not up to the physicality required for that position in the EPL. You need someone that can hold the ball up with back to goal and bring others into play. You also need to be physcically strong in the air which Sanchez is not and offer real box presence.

I fear We are going to struggle without Giroud up top to get hold of the ball. Sanchez or Podolski for that matter will get bullied out of a lot of games in the EPL if either are played centrally up top as the fulcrum point. Sonogo although more physically up to it is not the best technically with his touch to hold onto that ball either.

Walcott again like Sanchez is best running into space feeding off a big guy.

We need another striker for me that can do Giroud's role even when he was fit I still felt we needed competion for that role.

Bony might be good option perhaps a season loan with a view to a possible purchase at the end of season will be a good option.

Zigic like Sonogo not good enough and you can forget us spending 20Mill on a loan for Falcoa even though that would really give us a massive boost to our chances.

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I disagree Ryan.

Get what your saying, girouds all about hold up play.

But Liverpool thrived last year with two forwards very much in the mindset of facing the opposition.

Alexis is a very strong player ball to feet -
He's lightning quick, explosive acceleration, low centre of gravity and he's got sublime control.

As long as it's played to feet he doesn't need to hold it up because he can make space for himself - something giroud has never done.

Like others have said, him with Theo could be deadly.

Defenders hate pace, and well have two blisteringly quick guys who can score playing off each other.

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The thing is Liverpool are very much a counter attacking side and bring teams on to them therefore rely on pace and more direct balls over the top.

We are not like we once were with Henry etc such a counter attack side we are a possesion side and face teams that drop very deep so there is not so much space in behind.

We therefore need a player up top that will reliably keep hold of the ball when it is pinged up to him or alternatly we go completly the other way and do a Barcarlona and play without any striker as such and all players attacking from depeer positions gving the oppostion CB's nobody to specifcially mark causing confusion.

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28 Aug 2014 09:48:51
With regards to the poll.

Would safe standing reduce ticket prices? Or would it be just business as usual?

And what is "safe standing" by the way? Is it when the seats fold up and allow one to stand? Is it the rail? And was it "safe standing" back in the day or was it just standing/unsafe standing?
Just curious

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Safe standing is like you say, fold away seats/rails are 2 options. Would it reduce ticket prices? I doubt it because it would be your choice to stand. Do you get an overall different product for the money. No your still watching the same game.

I stood in the clock end at highbury from when I was about 8/9 years old. Used to get right to the front and sit on the railing. As I got older (and taller) I would stand about half way back up the stand. Some games were a bit cramped but I never felt unsafe. They still restricted the numbers who could pass through the turnstiles.

I would welcome it back for definite. Would create a much needed bigger atmosphere at the Emirates.

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28 Aug 2014 10:41:54
Is it not standing anywhere near the corner flag when Danny Welbeck is about to shoot. ;-)

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What I've seen of it I think it looks both safe and a good idea for clubs who wish to take it up.
No old standing was never that safe really, when the crowd moved you went with it and when they all moved forward you were in trouble if you went down on the deck.

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He's not defensive at all.

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Safe standing can be monitored easily by ground staff controlling crowds as CCTV has vastly improved and also the fences have come down. Gone are the days of ticketless fans turning up, high fences and treatment like penned in sheep.

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28 Aug 2014 09:34:54
Adrien Rabiot could be a very good signing. Under Wenger he could become a world class DM.

I think Wenger recognises that signing a world class striker at this stage will be difficult and so instead is adding a "body" to the midfield and using Sanchez as a striker.

I think with one more defender we have a good squad, and what will become more important is our training.

Was at the match yesterday and squad fitness and sharpness is very low. Equally, players are still very much learning about each other. On 3 occasions, our atticking midfielders passed to the wrong post (Sanchez likes to run far post / Giroud runds to near post). As a result 3 near post passes, when sanchez ran away from the ball.

Likewise, players are not seeing Debuchy's bombing runs.

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Rabiot is not a defensive midfielder.

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He's box-to-ox, but I think he can be deep lying pivot

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I also think he is probably capable of playing there, make sure he hits the gym a bit though, he has the height but he needs some strength.

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He's a number 10 from what I've seen/heard of him, would be a class signing, but really not we need. A luxury player

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28 Aug 2014 09:19:00
So the champions league draw is on at 445pm

Pot 1: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Chelsea, Benfica, Athletico Madrid, Arsenal & Porto

Pot 2: Dortmund, Schalke, Juventus, PSG, Shakhtar Donetsk, Basel, Zenit, Man City

Pot 3: Leverkusen, Olympiakos, CSKA Moscow, Ajax, Liverpool, Sporting Lisbon, Galatasaray, Athletic Bilbao

Pot 4: Anderlecht, Roma, APOEL, Bate Borisov, Ludagarets, Maribor, Monaco, Malmo FF.

Ideally we want to avoid teams like Shakhtar and Zenit for travelling reasons. Roma and Monaco are dangerous in pot 4 and there are a lot of good teams across the draw. I'd like something like:

Arsenal, PSG, Ajax, Ludagarets.

What we will get is:

Arsenal, Zenit, CSKA Moscow, Roma.

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More like Dortmund, bilbao and roma

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With the exception of basle (who are no mugs) every team in pot 2 is dangerous.

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In think we'll get PSG, Moscow and Roma

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Can't get drawn with two Russian teams. Teams from the same nations are kept apart.

I'd like Basel, Sporting and Malmo. All teams we can beat at home and at least draw away, and not top much travelling.

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Good point CS! My mistake! I stick with PSG Ajax and Ludagarets!

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I'd like schalke olympiacos and ludagarets. ( what an effort last night from the centre back/goalkeeper/penalty taker)

I Wouldn't like Juventus Moscow and Monaco

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Arsenal Dortmund GalatsaTurkish team and Anderlecht is my prediction.
I know it can't happen but I'd love Arsenal chavs city Liverpool and may the best two go through, scary but very exciting over two legs.
You wouldn't want it every year because it would just be another domestic qualifier but this season for one season only the full Monty of grops

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Basel, Olympiacos and Malmo would be lovely.

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I rather Basle, Ajax and Maribor that would be as good as it gets

Worst case:- PSG, Bilbao and Roma that would be hard

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To be fair, Dortmund, Napoli and Marseille was a very tough group. We HAVE to win all three home games and then get a result away like beating Dortmund 1-0.

Whatever happens let's just be glad we're not on Thursday night Europa league. I say bring on whoever!

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28 Aug 2014 09:15:23
Jack did very well last night and reminded his critics of which I very much am one what he could do, well done Jackie boy critics who are also Arsenal fans want to be proved wrong by you.
This is not the first time Jack has done this, there was Montpelier and Norwich last season and what about that Barcelona game a few years back?
Name Ramsey's Kos Merts best two games last season? Takes a little longer doesn't it.
Thats where Jack has to get too, yes its brilliant to see him when he's at his best but he knows like everyone knows it has to happen a lot more often, like 3/4 games or Its the very least 3/5 not 2 or 3 in 30 odd.
I and all of us want this to be a turning point for Jack and anyone who doesn't and wants him to fail needs to take a look at them selves and ask you he question of them selves "why don't I want what's best for Arsenal "?
But those people who are desperate to be proved right and to see Jack fail are very few and far between.
99.9% want what's good for our club and a Jack Wilshere that for fils all that fantastic potential is very good for Arsenal

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Good post

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Preach my son, preach.
That turn and burst of speed is something that is unique to JW. Walcott, Sanchez and the Ox will force defences to defend deep allowing Jack to do what he did yesterday but hopefully on a more consistent basis

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I posted yesterday saying I expected a big performance from him - solely due to Ramsey's absence. I don't think those two can play in the same team, they end up getting in the way of each other. It's the same problem England faced for years with Lampard & Gerrard. Personally I'd go with Ramsey at the moment and Ozil @ No10 - Not on the left as he seems to be getting played every week.

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28 Aug 2014 10:39:18
I think for the most part it's a lack of understanding, we can all read reports in the press about Jack and come to various conclusions without knowing the full story.

We can all see what he does on the pitch and Paul Merson made two good points last night, Jack has partly been his own worst enemy in rushing back from injury but this time I think he has got it right.

It is nothing to do with what happens in his private life it is how how trains and regains top fitness. He has the ability and I believe the will but there is always a blame culture and various players get singled out, some justly and some not.

Paul Mersons second good point related to Wenger how he has come in for criticism for lack of trophies and to this day it amazes me to hear fans say, why didn't he spend money before, he's always had it. Simply taking things at face value as they do stuff about Jack.

Merts point was that 17yrs of continuous Champions League football on a budget with numerous problems and what were called bad seasons. Manchester United have one bad season and can't even get in the Europa league. Arsene is a top quality manager make no mistake about it.

In my opinion whether he plays alongside Ramsey or not he is a quality player who will come good.

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I still feel that Ozil should be number 10.

Playing ozil on wing is like playing cesc/xavi on wing. These are playmakers that need to be able to see the full pitch and pick out runs. To play them wide reduces there passing options by half.

**Please let's not turn this into a cesc versus ozil arguement.

For those is doubt, Ozil IS class - but he is a confidence player; much like gervinho.

These players need our support, and will deliver.

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When he's had 10-15 more games where he is 100% injury free like he is now I believe we will see nearer to what we know he can produce, like he did last night but for longer dominating periods of the game. Staying injury free is key to this. He looks as strong as iv seen for a long time.

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28 Aug 2014 09:02:43
So, what are everyone's thoughts on the Ozil enigma? He had another poor game last night although I did notice that he ran back and tackled back a lot more than he has done in the past.

Whenever he's on the ball I feel like I'm waiting for him to give the ball away. He doesn't seem able to run at the defence with the ball like Cazorla who I thought was outstanding at that against Besiktas.

I think he needs to play behind a front three of say Cazorla, Alexis and Chamberlain and he can thread the eye of a needle with his passes. At the moment, it's like we're carrying him and up against Man City you need 11 players all firing.

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28 Aug 2014 09:37:03
He seems to be pushed out to the wing (or certainly was last night). He doesn't have the pace of say Chambo so can't really operate on the wing.

I would like to see him sitting behind the front 3 and putting in those passes which made him so well known at RM and at international level!

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28 Aug 2014 09:51:13
Swap him for Paul Pogba and bring in Marco Reus.

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Totally agree Doc but Mesut shouldn't be tracking back, either play him where he's best or get rid by Monday and replace him with James Milner who is far better at tackling and chasing back to help out his full back.
Either play Mesut where he shone so brightly for Real or admit he was a panic buy you never wanted Arsene and get as much money back as you can.
At the moment Mesut is no good for us and we're certainly not doing him any good either

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Everyone knows this, apart from Wenger it seems. You don't buy the best No10 in the world for a club record fee and play him out of position.

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His game was poor yes, but he did show moments of brilliance at times, I think him and Alexis lack understanding for now but with time that will develop. I'm positive that he will have a very good season this year.

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Agree with comments he needs to play centrally behind the striker as one of the main playmaker or not atall.

He is not effective out wide and infact can be a liablility for us because he not going to track back with any great urgency and offer little defensive shield for the fullback.

He is player that needs to freed from any defensive responsibility and you only do that by playing him in that number 10 Role. In fact that goes for Cazorla aswell. It no conicidence that teams target our LB because of this lack or protection in front.

Not saying Ozil is not a good player but he was one we did not really need.

Wenger seems inept at getting a team well balanced and orgainsed between defense and attack and just hopes by putting all these highly skillful/technical players in together that it will work wherever they play. When infact few players are truly that adpatable to play various positions.

Our team inbalance with too many central players means the team is not truly reaching it's potential. With a better balanced side with proper wide men and a proper DM we would be much better as team and would be up there really challanging because nobody in EPL could match our creativity then.

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28 Aug 2014 08:26:27
Dags if you want to take a break from the site then fair play to you mate but after Tuesday all will calm down and many posters of the hostile variety will disapear, well this is my 3rd window on this fantastic site and in my limited experience its what usually happens.
The best response to people looking for an argument is usually no response at all but that doesn't mean you have to not take part in the bits you enjoy mate.
What ever you decide to do fair play to you but should the unthinkable happen and Arsene signs HIM! I'd like to see you fight the erg to post then mate :-)

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I'm getting a little bit fed up with all the keyboard warriors that come out the woodwork to dig out other people.

We're all Arsenal fans (I hope!) Let's keep the banter to a humorous level and have a laugh on here otherwise it defeats the purpose of its existence.

Dags we need your jokes to roll our eyes to and your enthusiastic love of Loic!

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I miss dags jokes!😃 I still did not understand the Michael oven one though.

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28 Aug 2014 08:57:40
Thanks G62,

Good post as usual.

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28 Aug 2014 08:59:37
Lol, thanks Greeny.

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Wasn't much of a break was it? :)

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28 Aug 2014 08:25:23
Wilshere and Ramsey is like Gerrard and Lampard for England. its SODS law that when the other player is injured the player present raises his game to a whole new level.

however since I've been a wilshere downer, like I was a ramsey downer, and wilshere has been making me cut a slice of the second humble pie, after ramsey made me eat one, it looks like i'm going to be admitted for type two diabetes.

now we got the champions league, we need to get that CDM, CB and even a bloody winger if we are going to keep sanchez as our CF.

one thing for sure, the games on yest, from the arsenal panic attack game to the one where the GK was sent off and the defender went in goal, scored a Pen and saved two. nothing like football to keep you in awe.

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Do you know what Laker I had EXACTLY the same thought RE: Lamps and Gerrard and Wilshere and Ramsey. Ramsey the Lampard style box to box player and Wilshere the battler in the midfield who is there to link the play.

I genuinely think that Wilshere and Ramsey CAN play together. Especially if we have that midfield enforcer behind them which would enable them to take turns in pushing forward or supporting the play.

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I think we need to close this carvalho deal, but with wenger probably haggling over a few pennies, leaves Manchester United in a position to swoop in and pay 60 mill for him.

4-1-4-1 would be ideal.

carvalho holds the fort, Ramsey, Ozil, wilshere and walcott make the midfield with Sanchez up top.

however I feel Ozil, and ramsey should be the core players ahead of the DM, with walcott and heres hoping (fingers crossed) reus on the left wing, with sanchez up top.

wilshere, ox, rosicky, flamin, arteta, cazorla, give us depth and chambers, monreal do an admirable job for a defense which is lacking a CB for depth.

up front let's not even go there Sanogo, Poldi? I mean can we be serious contenders with that frontline? I think we need to be realistic. if wenger does go all our for a world class winger/forward and a CDM and CB we can challenge the best, otherwise as I see it, we are lacking two starters to take us over the top.

FYI with walcott out injured it will be awhile before he is firing, same with giroud once he is back, so the need to supplement these players and hit the ground running is crucial, but we all know how we do these transfer windows.

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I'm of the same opinion as per my last few posts. Personally I don't think they can play together, not while accommodating Ozil as well & I'd rather have him at No10.

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Complete agree Lakes regarding the 4-1-4-1.

I'd love to see Reus but the longer we wait, the more chance that Real Madrid, Bayern or even Manchester United throw money at him and he's gone!

Also not 100% on Alexis as a striker but him and Walcott could swap right wing and upfront. I think Theo could potentially be very good upfront.

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28 Aug 2014 07:21:53
PLEASE POST THIS ON BANTER PAGE ED.
AMAN. Re your post below concerning the Jack Wishere haters. Well seeing as I've taken enough stick over posts that I have made on the subject I also feel that your comments are aimed at the likes of me. So let me explain something.
I am not going to bother posting on here and saying what everyone wants to hear what is the point of that? . Secondly Jacks performance last night was adequate for the night it was no World Class performance it was not memorable it was just enough. But that is considering his last performances have been average to say the least. In saying that Ozil had an awful game I thought and although Santi seemed. to have a better game he has gone of the boil lately.
Sanchez worked his socks off and the Ox and Debuchy turned in a great performance but for the ridiculous second yellow card which I believe FIFA have got to start looking at and introduce Sin Bins for non violent contacts as its ruining the game. But that's another subject.
Anyhow I'm with Dagenham when he said that its comments like you made that want him to take a bit of time out. I've done it before I know where he is coming from. I wish people would leave it out with the snidey remarks your not sounding clever in fact you are alienating yourselves in a lot of people's eyes. There is no point in saying it was said tongue in cheek as you should start thinking before you open your mouth so to speak. We are not 10 year old kids we know what you are insinuating and to who. So try and keep it pleasant. There are enough mugs and keyboard warriors on here to keep this site going for the next 100 years mate. This site is not called ' Slag Someone Off ' it's called Arsenal Rumours and Arsenal Banter.

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28 Aug 2014 08:57:07
Ihave been around since before the M'villa times and this is the feistiest transfer window in a while haha!

All will go back to normal next week - hopefully we can go back to the enjoyable banter :)

Although you need to grow up if you think you are being targetted on a banter website.

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28 Aug 2014 08:58:26
Good post Golds.

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^^ Exactly you are not 10 year old kids, so take a post sometimes in light humor, I do not understand this site banter where we support another team and laud them, when their manager talk crap about our team, listen to the Besiktas manager, nothing but respect for Arsenal and the team. I am not slagging off anybody here, I repeat again I bought up DG's name for one of his jokes that's it. If people can't get over it I cannot help it. You have your views about Jack I have mine, as per your comments you shld perhaps take a leaf out of one my friends who is a utd fan, and still praises the little crap they have left in his team.

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I agree Golds, it is opinions and we all have different one's, that's life.

And yes JW had a better performance but he had to seeing as Ramsey was missing.

If he goes missing against Leicester then he is back to square one .

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Thanks BANBURY mate. As for the rest of the replies, you've lost me completely. Thank God.

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Rob_afc. Sorry mate you are right . We have all got it wrong.

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29 Aug 2014 00:13:45
I wouldn't worry about it Rob and Aman, they do the same routine to pretty much anyone that has an opposing opinion to their selves. Hound and then act the victim.
You this week, Witty last, me the week before, I could go on.

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28 Aug 2014 06:42:12
Should we rotate players against Leicester? We could start Chambers, Rosicky, Campbell, Sanogo, Ramsey, Abu Diaby (is he fit?) & Podolski, all of whom didn't start against Besiktas. This could give tired players a well deserved rest and help the injury situation. After the international break, we should have Arteta & Gibbs back, as well as any signings we make before the window closes. Towards the end of September, Walcott should return from injury. Withe the amount of matches we have to play, a strong, fit squad is essential.

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28 Aug 2014 07:01:53
If players are not deemed fit enough to play or need a rest after 3/4 games then they should not be aloud to leave on international duty!

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I think rotation is a good thing. I know it's early in the season but sanchez worked so hard yesterday I think he deserves a rest, start from the bench. We have enough quality to beat Leicester. Pod ox Campbell Rosicki have barely played so should be ready to prove themselves

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Rick dallas - The point is not that they have only played 3 or 4 matches, but playing continually both at weekends & midweek tends to lead to injury from overuse and fatigue. It might not be now, but a couple of months down the line. As for the internationals, I can't stand them, as we tend to pick up injuries. In addition, we need to play squad players, to retain their match fitness.
My comment regarding the Leicester match, was taking into account the enormous amount of effort the last two matches have taken out of the players and whether we should put out the strongest team in the match or rest some players. Personally, I would start Chambers for either Mertesacker or Koscielny. I would bring in Rosicky & Ramsey for Wilshere & Ozil. I might consider starting Campbell on the right instead of Ox.

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Leicester gave Everton and Chelsea a run for their money, we shouldn't underestimate them, I'd be playing the best team possible.

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Agree with Sydney. Leicester are no mugs. Especially at home. They could and probably should have scored to make it 1-0 against Chelsea. Second half, Chelsea were clinical and score twice. Game over.

Strongest possible team knowing we have an international break where Mertesacker, Gibbs, Arteta, Flamini etc won't even be going anywhere.

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28 Aug 2014 05:54:47
Great result last night and the 3 new signings were excellent. Debauchy has replaced Sagna and settled in immediately. Chambers is a revelation and it's unbelievable to think he is only 19. Sanchez's work rate was immense, a superb signing.
Hopefully, with CL qualification confirmed, we will now sign the CB & DM players we desperately need. Striker-wise, we probably need a signing, but Wenger has a point in stating that we have quite a few options. Sonago is an excellent young talent, who we need to get behind while he develops physically & mentally. Don't forget players such as Wrighty, RVP & Henry, didn't mature as players, until they had reached 23 years of age.
Theo wants to play in the strikers role and we have Campbell, Podolski & Sanchez, as options. Imagine a front three of Sanchez, Walcott and Ox. The pace of the trio is frightening.
Fingers crossed that the two signings we need are made.

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28 Aug 2014 02:01:38
Eds is there any interest in benficas Rodrigo?

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{Ed027's Note - you mean the one that joined Valencia on loan? No

I was totally playing with you guys. Got you.

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Sure mate.

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28 Aug 2014 01:37:23
Ed02 you have said that wednesday and Thursday are important days regarding transfers? Anything later regarding arsenal? Thanx will really appreciate your reply

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

28 Aug 2014 01:15:09
Why Aren't we playing Campbell, really annoying.

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28 Aug 2014 00:40:12
Right this is not a ozil bashing post, but I am really worried, before you say he shouldn't be on the left, I'm talking about him since he's joined. He looks so uninterested and lazy since he's joined, a shadow of the player from Madrid . Doesn't contribute much at all except a few neat passes. Anyone in the arsenal team can do that with ease, I just don't think people should be saying he's unreal when he's quite clearly not. If it Means jack plays like he does tonight and can fit in the same team as Ramsey then drop ozil, it's not about names. It what they contribute on the pitch and the well being of the team. If he doesn't step up and jack starts to, then I'm sorry but I would bench him until he pulls his finger out and has that hunger and determination that is non existent at the moment. Thoughts?

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Agree. He has moments of brilliance but does seem lethargic, he seems to slip under the radar a lot. I think he'd be a powerful weapon if he was used in the no.10 role with no defending duties.

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28 Aug 2014 06:49:02
Wrong, he has played pretty much exactly the same, Arsenal are a shadow of Madrid. That's the problem

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WG

What you really mean is the PL is completely different to LL

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WG

What you really mean is the PL is completely different to LL

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28 Aug 2014 00:14:05
If the Eds are convinced that Falcao will go to Real Madrid this window, coupled with the signing of Rodrigues, is there a squeak that Wenger might make a move for Benzema, who may be surplus to requirements?

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Pretty sure Benzema signed an extension with RM

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28 Aug 2014 00:54:43
Was at the game, wilshere was so inconsistent, lacked quality in the final third and lost the ball A LOT. Ozil was adequate. Sanchez was quality, but koscienly and the BFG were insanely good, like tony Adams and Martin keown level good. Flamini, good solid shift, debuchy looks world class, and monreal was a revelation this evening, I'll have some of what he's having

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I thought wilshere was decent. He started the move which led to the goal! Also some good passes and bursts of pace which caused besiktas trouble. Missed an easy chance to score though.

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28 Aug 2014 03:27:44
Lacked quality in the final third? Guessing that's because he missed "A" chance. wilshere had one of his best games in a long time, in the final third he created our goal, and then set Sanchez in again, who was unlucky not to get a second.

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No, over the course of the whole game his passing on the break to the front three was poor. He also was caught on the ball far to often in the middle and defensive third. He did well for the goal.

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28 Aug 2014 00:54:22
Going to come out and say it, although looking forward to signings - Remy and Winston Reid, fingers crossed. But this performance shows the much maligned Giroud and Arteta are in fact very valuable contributors, the boss knows!

Sanchez, Wilshire and Cazorla - beasts all of them. Well done boys.

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Good post mate. Thought Cazorla was quality last night. Worked so hard. Didn't think he had that type of game in him to be honest!

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28 Aug 2014 00:48:39
on whether he has contacted Zigic.
Zigic? No.
on the possibility of buying any more players.
If you want to make everyone happy, you just always buy players. But what is important is the performance on the football pitch and the solidarity we have shown tonight. Having said that, if you look at the players we have on the bench and those who are injured, we have players. I believe you cannot everytime buy when a player is injured.
on a defender or a midfielder being a priority.
We are open for any position as long as we feel that the player can strengthen the squad. Buy to buy, I don't see the purpose of that. If we find the players who we feel can give something to our squad, we will do it in any position. We are open but it has to be enough to buy. It has to make sense.
on whether he will sign Danny Welbeck.
No.
on whether Alexis can play up front for 3-4 months.
For three or four months? He can play there his whole life. I bought him to play as a striker, not to play only on the flanks.
on Jack Wilshere's performance.
I feel from game to game he grows. He got some criticism recently and the best response is to show on the pitch that he's getting better and better. I think he has found a little burst to get away from people which he didn't have for a while. In the last two or three games you see it slowly coming back.
on Song returning and Ozil's performance.
Mesut Ozil's performance doesn't concern me and Alex Song will not be coming back.
on whether Falcao is in his price range.
No.
on which Besiktas player he was most impressed with.
I was impressed by [Atiba] Hutchinson.

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28 Aug 2014 00:48:20
My jack is back he's custard

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Well let's hope we saw more of that week in and week out, once every 40 weeks is no good to anyone

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Well let's hope we saw more of that week in and week out, once every 40 weeks is no good to anyone

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28 Aug 2014 00:31:40
People slag of giroud he plays a MOTM performance against Everton. People slag of Wilshere and he plays a MOTM performance tonight. Who's next for you fans that criticise players at every opportunity? Lol

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Thats a bit of an exaggeration D, no one criticises Jack for 50 weeks of the year.
Well you did say every opportunity didn't you?
Last season there certainly wasn't a shortage of opportunities ad by far the majority Jack brought on himself!
We all want him to do well and concentrating on football is a great place to start

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28 Aug 2014 08:56:16
Tongue in cheek D16, love it lol.

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28 Aug 2014 09:57:32
Lol you know what I mean. The fans that moan about a player when they have an off day. Granted Wilshere has had a few. We don't seem to get behind our players when they have rough patches. Well some don't. On that note this season ticket gooner I know was moaning to me last week when Rambo got sent off saying that's the true awful Ramsey we know and his true form will now show. Fans like that annoy me. Thanks dags lol

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Apologies D, its the dunces hat for me AGAIN!
I really should learn to read better.
Sorry mate got caught up in the whole attack/defence thing and shot a goodie by mistake oooops.
Easy to see why I'm always last pick on peoples paint ball teams isn't it.
My sad I think that's what the young whipper snappers say now days init?

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Ozil has had more off days than them all put together!

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28 Aug 2014 13:15:44
Valley gooner I will have a glass of what u have had please. I think ozil was quite unfairly criticised by the English media last season. I'm sure people like myself who saw every game would agree he wasn't as bad as a lot of people make out. I heard he created the most chances than any other player in Europe. Not looked into that yet tho. Which is what he is there to do

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28 Aug 2014 00:30:17
bit of a random question, if a team wins the europa league and qualifies for CL via league position, who gets the extra spot, the runner up or the 5th placed team in their league? thanks

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Surely the other finalist then

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27 Aug 2014 23:59:05
For what it's worth, aside from JW and Alexis, Cazorla was very good tonight. Still underrated by many

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