Arsenal Banter Archive August 31 2014

31 Aug 2014 19:44:37
Amongst all this negativity I just thought add my two pence. We need to consider the circumstances before we start criticising, arsenal have just played 5 games in the first 14 days of the season. Two of those were tough champions league games with us having to travel to turkey in the first leg then 4 days later away to Everton then 4 days later battling out 90 minutes in the second leg in a very intense and nervous game. To then travel to Leicester 4 days after that against a quick hardworking team was always going to be tough.

This is also a post world cup year with a number of players only being back like for two weeks before the start of the season and the Germans have only been back for about two weeks in total. So to play 5 tough games in 14 days straight away like say was always going to be tough.

Yes we need to sign a striker a defender and a defensive midfielder and I don't understand why he plays Ozil on the left and Sanogo ahead of sanchez, podolski and Campbell but we need to just stand back not be too hastey too pounce on tthe attack yet, let's see what tomorrow offers and let's hope we can settle down and start playing some confident football.

But the Germans haven't played 5 tough games?

01 Sep 2014 00:05:32
Good post yg

01 Sep 2014 00:13:00
Fair post.

31 Aug 2014 20:18:29
I might get to 4 matches a year( if lucky) it cost a fair bit possibly 100 quid for the evening or afternoonx2 . I see the same faces everytime, seasoned season ticket holders choughing up thousands how many season tickets are sold per season 40,000?, today's performance was mid table at best, Ozil is being played in the wrong position, Santi, Ramsey et el all, to a man not inventive enough to break down a stubborn championship side who are cutting their prem teeth, the point is we the fans are being ripped off.
arsenal fans pay top dollar for second rate players . Sanogo is a joke, he isn't Prem quality, .imagine all the top 4 managers laughing at us as we field Sanogo as our striker.complete rubbish

31 Aug 2014 19:22:08
And another post while I'm at it

Chelsea business done
Liverpool business done
M City business done

US same as all other seasons, still chasing our tales looking to bring players in and what is going to be now inflated prices?


Why the large gap between the 3 signings and now?

As Alan Smith said on Sky and I posted something similar, we always seem to do just 80% of business in the window and end up a player or two short. Just spend the extra 60 million and we are done, it makes next year even easier . surely

31 Aug 2014 19:43:24
City business may not be done - word has it they and Real and fighting it out over Falcao - this striker story may yet have a twist because someone has to make way - like musical chairs but less fun

{Ed039's Note - Remember City have those UEFA sanctions, this limits the amount they can spend and the number of foreign players in their CL squad, they really need to move players on before they can even contemplate signing Falcao

31 Aug 2014 21:07:17
Negrado has gone to Valencia tonight

31 Aug 2014 19:15:33
Is it little pea has joined real madrid

31 Aug 2014 18:57:02
Falcao and Hernandez go to Madrid, paving the way for Arsene to sign Benzema on deadline day.

Join me next time for a brand new installment of 'Wishful Thinking'.

I join u on wishing lol benzema and carvalho and a cb be nice

31 Aug 2014 18:51:03
Eds please tell me were going in for a striker sanogoals shown he can't do it and I would rather have ulloa up top than him.

I'm very frustrated after good signings at the start of the window

Did we have a midfield today?

31 Aug 2014 18:47:32
To be completely honest if we do not sign a prolific striker, a strong controlling defensive midfielder and a big name defender this club could well be looking at battling for 5th and 6th at this rate! Cavani, Falcao are both available for striker and Carvalho for CDM why is Wenger so stubborn?

Well said this club will struggle

Well said

31 Aug 2014 18:42:46
Joey Campbell cannot get any minutes on the pitch with giroud injured and Walcott still out, if I were him I would think about leaving as when they are fit he will lower in the pecking order.

Today after they scored not once did I think we looked like scoring or winning, lack of urgency all over.

Wenger waited too long to sub kos, he clearly was not right and did not fancy heading the ball after his clash,

75 minutes to make our subs too late.

Lucky point in my eyes, seemed like we settled for the point near the end.

Awful team performance
Awful management,
Awful attitude.

31 Aug 2014 18:29:32
NO IT isn't WENGER OUT

That is ridiculous

In 3 years it will happen and not before so anyone wanting or thinking about that is wasting their time and life.
By the way Banbury I've just noticed how much you look like Arsene mate its uncanny.
Every time I read your posts and see your photo at the bottom of them I think of Arsene, surely I can't be the only one who's noticed :-)

31 Aug 2014 18:25:53
We don't get a striker we will struggle for top 4 like every season

31 Aug 2014 18:07:00
Why didnt podolski start instead of sanogo today?! He would have definitely scored from the chances we got! Other than that I thought our game has improved. Precision n passing! Missed giroud so badly today! He would have won us this game!

31 Aug 2014 18:32:59
Same old story we do not spend ok we spend around £65m but get 45m from sales inc fab and vela so there's the answer Everton Southampton and most of the prem has spent more than 25m and yet we believed it was going to be different than any of the last 10 windows this window after the sanchez deal we are all so deluded. Wenger is a prize porkepine if he cannot see how far we are behind the top 5 teams yep the top 5. we need a striker a DM and a cb are you blind mr wenger. Come on u are messing us all about. U r as tight as a nuns xxxx

31 Aug 2014 18:17:57
Let's not go OTT people, most teams struggle the weekend after a CL game and its early days to be playing so many games in so few days.
We're all disappointed not to win today but ithe season really is a marathon.
Everton drew at Leicester and Chelski were very fortunate not too, Leicester have done well in all 3 games in a very difficult start for them.
Dont panic Captain Mannering

Same old excuses. same old forth place finish

31 Aug 2014 18:11:43
In games like today's we need a player who can unlock the opposition defense from deep. Flamini was a liability, would much rather have seen Wilshere given the chance alongside Ramsey.

31 Aug 2014 18:03:46
Looks like another frustrating season ahead. again a few players short from challenging, what's wenger blind faith in sannogoal he could of played for a week he would never score, Campbell should of been on at half time.
We need spider and a cf if wenger thinks we don't he is deluded 24 shots on goal 6 on target speaks volumes
Can't belive how crazy mario at 16 or Remy at 10 have not been brought in. Wenger can't use no one was available who would improve the team excuse
I just pray these hunterler rumoures are true

Personally speaking I think the manager is our weakest link.It took him 75minutes to get Sanogo off when quite frankly it should have been 75 seconds.We need a quality striker asap.3games into the season and we have already dropped points against teams that Chelsea have beaten.We are so so predictable tactics wise its just not good enough.

Spanner,
I totally agree.
I have been saying this for over a month,
Let's keep everything crossed and hope he comes up with the goods otherwise I can see a very hard season ahead and a wasted opportunity following on from wining the FA cup

31 Aug 2014 17:57:44
1-1 Poor really up front no focal point without Giroud no Box presence. We need a proper Striker for sure but I doubt we will actually get one or anybody for that matter. We need to make decisive moves in transfer market. Look at Chelsea straight away replacing Torres with Remy no messing around.

31 Aug 2014 17:27:34
The work rate from Alexis is amazing

31 Aug 2014 18:14:07
half the time it is because he lost the ball and is chasing back to get it.

31 Aug 2014 18:23:50
Shaneyd I dunno why you're saying that he has been one of few positive things so far

Banbury, he has been just ok for me, his work rate is admirable but I think he is dropping too deep has a looses 1st touch, I expected him to be on the move getting between their defense but it seems not his game so ozil has not ot that link as many thought they would.

I understand he is new to our league but I think maybe he is trying too hard and not in the positions where he can most do damage.

Chambers and to a degree debuchy have been the only 2 positives this season the rest have been below par

31 Aug 2014 17:23:05
My commentary continues

Our tip tapping about doesn't frighten anyone, we aren't Barcalona of a few years back.

We had 5 players all within 5 yards of each other trying to dance around their defence

We are easy to defend again with very little threatening pace .

Does wenger coach this? Guys get five of you into a ten yard space just inside the box and try to pass through 9 defenders

Same shit over and over. wenger should sit up in the stands and observe team shape

This guy never learns from his mistakes

Spot on Banbury we walk around the pitch a good half of our passes don't provide us with anything. For me today same probs different players which for me says it ain't the players. Really poor game

Mate we're so predictable it's a joke.

cons:
- Too slow
- Lack of cohesion
- No striker
- Tactics
- Bloody subs
- Wenger is pissing me off
- Szczesny

pros:
None from this game

31 Aug 2014 17:21:02
Can people please give me your thoughts on sonogo. he is a waste of space. I don't blame the lad. but how on earth does he start over poldi or Campbell?

He's going to be good player but I am tired of Arsene teaching players on the pitch in PL games. Campbell or Poldolski should have started. Sanogoo is too raw yet

Will say it for the 1000th time Sanogog has to be loaned out, to a Championship side to learn what it is really all about, as you say it isn't is fault

He does need to go out on loan, and maybe just maybe become that great striker wenger thinks he is

31 Aug 2014 17:04:23
Just to finish the post

Sanogogogogog isn't the answer . is he? But I am now convinced no striker will be coming. but blimey weren't we unlucky with a bid to get Remy ( sarcasm )

We need a CB desperately and a first class one, not a second rate one from the Greek 6th division, there was a lot of talk about playing Chambers as a DM. can't see that as AW thinks Flamini and Arteta can do that job.

We are a million miles away from Chelsea and M City and about100 behind Liverpool IMO.

I don't think anyone talks more sense on this site than banbury and I truly mean that

31 Aug 2014 16:41:13
Dags must be sad today. his Thierry 2.0 goes to the chavs

Hope you get compensated with another solid signing mate

31 Aug 2014 17:11:56
Just K,

Mate, seriously I am truly gutted.

An opportunity for Arsene/Arsenal to step up another level.

I can understand not going for Cesc, but the Remy thing has baffled me.

Mourinho must have a massive smile on his face.

I wish I could say the same.

31 Aug 2014 16:23:28
Cant see the match as am still on a boat in France. Came into port especially for the wifi and Arsenal game Even if I can only getthe scores. Well done mr Sanchez.

Guys let me know how good the goal and game is please.

Sanogo as a starter is embarrassing, we're struggling to get any good shots off

This is worse then watching the match, just reading text. My fingers are hurting, I ran out of finger nails in the Champsqualifier now I'm close to the bone

Gavs I'm in my living room. .at least you're on a boat in France!

Tell the truth are you on assignment for the gaffer looking at a French div 3 15 year old with "potential?

31 Aug 2014 15:53:54
This time last year we were about to kick off against spurs and we were having a real pop at wenger about only bringing flamini in.
3 hours later we were in negotiations with ozil

I'm praying for a similar turn of events over the next 36 or so hours. A win, Carvalho and falcao/ cavani will do nicely arsene

Coyg

31 Aug 2014 15:29:15
Remy to us rumor seems to have more lives than an American soap opera character. Its been shot 10 times, drowned twice and been pushed off a cliff into a shark filled tank and set on fire but still it keeps coming back, it ain't over until 10 pm tomorrow even if he signs for chavs on a 100 year deal today.
Captain Scarlet had nothing on remy

31 Aug 2014 15:14:29
I'm sitting here at the game at the moment. No Wilshere and Sanogo up front.
No Ox or Campbell in starting 11. Why? Why? Why?
I made a post the other day about the Man U game . Don't under estimate the opposition! I hope this doesn't apply today. I think we should have gone for Sanchez up front and Ozil behind him . But what do I know .?

Well get up and sing for the team we put out! I'm sure you will :) I really need to move to England.

31 Aug 2014 15:43:31
No offence mate but that is the Wilshere you want sold being replaced by our best player Ramsey. Seriously?

Jack was wiped after the Besiktas game and I for one don't want him picking up another injury.

It's important to play your best team in the big big games, but we simply have to rotate when we can.

In reality it's only Giroud missing that would make this a pretty much full strength team.

Have a little faith in Sanogo, there are plenty of options on the bench including Campbell who had a good game for the U'21's the other night.

31 Aug 2014 15:08:18
Super saNOGOAL starts these our replacement for giroud

31 Aug 2014 14:33:48
Stan the man in town to watch the game!
Hope he has his cheque book with him,

Waiting in antispation what tomorrow brings!?

What do all my fellow goners think will happen?,

A defensive midfielder at the absolute maximum.

We need a defence midfielder who can play CB and we need a striker
These are minimum requirements for us,

31 Aug 2014 14:21:08
Im hoping for a good game today, can't take them lightly though, burnley showed United that yesterday that they can stop teams playing so I think we need to be on form today, i'm predicting a 2-0 win with Sanchez and Ramsey to score :)

COYG!

31 Aug 2014 13:13:56
Could be a tricky game for us today. We need to be like a budgie at a Grateful Dead concert and stay on our toes.
1-3 to the Gunners, Sanchez, Ramsey and Ozil to score.
COYG

31 Aug 2014 13:46:22
I'm trying to figure out wether spell check changed what I wrote without me noticing, or my joke was censored by an Ed with a taste for psychedelic rock.

{Ed002's Note - If it was in poor taste or smutty then the swear-o-tron would have fixed it.}

31 Aug 2014 14:06:56
Some may argue anything referencing the Grateful Dead is in poor taste Ed. 😜

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't think so.}

31 Aug 2014 12:47:34
M City favourites to sign Falcao, maybe they will win the rest of their games 12-8 :)

31 Aug 2014 12:03:09
Do you know Today could be the start of a difficult season for us if things go wrong.
Spurs seem to have clicked, I look at their team and think MMMM.
A win for them and a draw or lose for us, could be very bad today
I really thought their would be bottom 10, (God I do some silly bets)
Still we can't do anything about their game, only beat what is in front of us

It's only the 3rd game of the season Welsh don't panic. Let the lads settle in and find there feet.

We will and allways do finish above the spudnics, have a little faith.

Let us concentrate on higher achievements and let them worry about catching the rest up.

Welsh you've spent too much time posting on the spurs page, your not going native on us here are you mate? :-)

31 Aug 2014 10:56:25
I heard that minolas the centre half we were after played his first game for roma last night and was absolutely brilliant.Just shows how slow wenger is as we keep losing our targets.

31 Aug 2014 12:04:16
Roma hijacked the deal at the last minute with a lot more money

31 Aug 2014 12:42:36
He's a first team player at Roma, a benchwarmer with us. Good luck to him.

31 Aug 2014 10:46:47
There could be yet another name for Dags to be known as if we do get Remy.
The Canadian Mounty

31 Aug 2014 11:05:41
I always get my man lol

(Everybody, please don't misinterpret that :-) )

Ooh seems like a nice boy!

31 Aug 2014 12:03:15
It's amazing how when Dags first started with Remy bromance that it was shot downs in flames by most saying he isn't good enough blah blah blah, I got on the Remy bus a few times with Dags and there were a lot of empty seats. . now it looks like he is heading for retirement at Chelsea everyone wants him at Arsenal . . typical.

Even though we are desperate for a striker I still wouldn't want him at Arsenal. . not good enough

Sorry Dags I don't think we're getting Remy.

I'm on the Banbury double decker extra
Long bendy bus that's towing a hotel and there is still no room for Remy on it

31 Aug 2014 15:00:26
Totally agree 1404.

Unfortunately, you are correct Jonny.

31 Aug 2014 10:34:13
my source at the club has told me that talks with remy are planned for today. remy WANTS to work with wenger. this could even be done tonight.

31 Aug 2014 11:08:53
Please please please.

I'm lining up my Dag's jokes already, as a special treat for you boys :-)

I am dreading it :(

31 Aug 2014 09:44:40
Here's my theory. AW was stung by Mourinho last summer over the transfer of Ba. This led to him having to recall Bendtner, who was almost out of the door. Could AW be getting sweet, sweet revenge? Remy is a big Arsenal fan. We could also offer them Sanogo, or possibly Akpom on loan, so they wouldn't be left short. Chelsea would be left short due to loaning Torres. Is Wenger getting his own back on Maureen?

31 Aug 2014 10:20:27
Hope you are right Slick.

It's alright offering QPR x, y and z but if Remy doesn't want to go then QPR don't get a say .

31 Aug 2014 12:06:55
I can't imagine he's that vindictive.
I am though :P

31 Aug 2014 08:56:32
Hi eds,
Is there a plan B for us other than Remy? He could well go to Chel$ki and, by moving for him, AW is showing he wants another striker. I know he's said he's staying, but Lacazette would be good value and AW may be able to persuade the club and player. Is there a backup option, like Lacazette?

{Ed002's Note - I really can't answer that.}

31 Aug 2014 10:22:26
Fair point Ed, sorry about the convolution. Let me try again, do Arsenal have any negotiations going for any other striker targets, in case Remy chooses Chelsea?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any "negotiations" for players who would not be first choice. I have mentioned players that are available - Huntelaar wants a move this window and would like a move to England. Maybe he is an option.}

31 Aug 2014 10:51:48
Thanks ed. Honestly not trying to strain your patience. Huntelaar would be a very helpful option.

31 Aug 2014 09:11:58
I fail to understand why we have waited so late in the window to go for Remy, as he has a buy out clause and it was understood that he wanted to join us.
In respect of the centre back we need, we must tie up a player before the window closes, as we only have 7 defenders, if you include inexperienced Bellerin.
In the defensive midfield role, either Carvalho or Schneiderlin would be ideal.
Fingers crossed that we get deals done.

31 Aug 2014 09:19:22
Because Arsene

Robbie

One word. . . . . .Desperation

We have run out of ideas and players within our budget

31 Aug 2014 08:30:15
I watched the chelsea game.
Very entertaining, but a lot went for them. an own goal, deflection, offside.
Everton believed after our game, that they are up a level, A reality check for them.
3 teams for the title, and also 2 with a sniff, .
Also is anybody else turning into an avid Manchester United watcher.Came home early to watch the game, if they carry on like this I don't think i'm going to miss a game of theirs.

Don't forget though the biggest decision of all went in favour if Everton.

How the hell did Tim Howard not get sent off.

31 Aug 2014 09:42:41
Welsh,

Not nice to kick a man when he's down.

But, we must make an exception in Utd's case.

I will bring the beer's, make room for me on the sofa :-)

31 Aug 2014 09:46:16
Chelsea and City, despite yesterday's hiccup, are the teams to beat. Their performances so far must show Arsene that we need the last pieces to compete. I'm confident we'll get them.

As far as United are concerned, they have become a laughing stock, from a club that never sack managers or buy a team they can now scrub those off their CV.

I honestly don't believe they appreciate the problems they are in, having lived through a world of Ferguson they now assume it is almost their right to win trophies.

With no stadium to build we assumed we would carry on winning trophies but selling your best and replacing them with a lesser calibre left us trophy less for 9 years. This is what has happened to them, one bad year with a Championship winning team and not even Europa league football.

United have sold or lost their best, Ronaldo, Tevez, Ferdinand, Neville, Scholes, Giggs, Berbatov, Vidic, Evra and others to replace them with mediocrity or players with potential they've turned into distinctly average players, Smalling, Cleverley, Rafael and Jones.

With the exception of us selling them RVP and the rest of us going into melt down they would not have 20 titles and their meltdown would have started earlier.

Ferguson retires, they employ Moyes, on his say so, who in turn panders to a woeful Wayne Rooney who has become the Mike Tyson of the footballing world, once feared by everyone, now wheel him into a ring and he won't knock you out in a month of Sundays.

They have also since been totally rinsed for players like the long forgotten Zaha along with Fellaini, Mata, Shaw, Herrera and Di Maria, even paying over the odds for Rojo and Blind. They are also struggling to get rid of players.

That has been their only way to get players, MONEY, lots of it. Whilst there is no doubting Di Maria's talent and the potential of Shaw they have bought players no one else has either wanted or paid over the top to get them.

Players such as Fabregas and Kroos choosing better options.

I make it they have a squad containing maybe at a push 9 players fit for purpose, they have a manager who won things in Spain and Germany with Barca and Munich. Two countries where it is pretty much a two horse race. That is not the case in the EPL, there maybe two favourites but Everton, Liverpool, Spurs and more so us can upset that apple cart and all teams can and do cause you problems. So he will find it, even with no Europe and minimal cup games, a totally different animal.

He has a squad full of uncertainty, with little confidence and struggling to adapt to his Philosophy, whatever that is and would a single one of us, or for that matter any of the top four wanted him to replace our current managers.

At his age you end up being the national coach for a reason, normally pre retirement.

They are to good to go down, aren't they?

31 Aug 2014 10:24:15
Brilliant post Red Dog.

Top analysis.

Your last line caught my eye Reds, I looked at the league table last night and thought exactly the same . . .and imagined the outcry if they got into a relegation battle lol

31 Aug 2014 11:34:32
Brilliant post, really enjoyed the sentiment. However, Mike Tyson would still definitely knock you the fudge out, FYI.

RED.your spell checker must have been working overtime on the intresting post.
Dags puffing up them pillows for you, till I see you like to get your man, No man how nice is sneaking in threw my back door, lol
BANNERs The league table never lies, (unless the are top)but their have to much fire power.
Its great to walk down a quiet welsh street and not see a Manchester United shirt.like the old days

31 Aug 2014 12:11:10
Outback,

I'm actually much harder than I look in my photo, that pic was taken on a bad hair day. Lol.

31 Aug 2014 12:48:10
Never fear Red Dog, you look tough as nails in your Avatar. I feel my Avatar represents me perfectly. The mighty, elegant, majestic capybara. King of rats.

31 Aug 2014 00:24:45
Well if we have gone for remy which it seems we have then tbh I may just be being optimistic but I can see us getting him. More likely to get first team football with us