Arsenal Banter Archive November 09 2014

09 Nov 2014 23:13:48
My wife told me she is divorcing me for never listening to her.

I think that's what she said anyway.

09 Nov 2014 22:47:01
So Dags.

You been blown off that fence yet?

09 Nov 2014 23:20:46
CIG,

Mate, I'm desperately hanging on but after yet another grim performance I'm losing my grip.

If we lose to manu and dortmund. Is it a promise you will say it.

09 Nov 2014 23:53:09
If its an inept performance, you have my word mate.

09 Nov 2014 21:19:01
Has anyone seen the photo where we are 1-0 up and have Welbeck, Sanchez, Ox, Chambers and Gibbs all in a line up front, Cazorla, Ramsey, Flamini in the opposition half also and Per and Monreal just left marking two guys.

It's ridiculous. The players and more so Arsene need to take a long hard look at themselves at start acting like they deserve to be at this football club.

Thick

I stand by what I say Arsene is the most arrogant man on the planet, he believes we can play anyone off the park.

09 Nov 2014 20:33:58
What a week. I honestly don't know why we do it?! Our beloved Arsenal put us through the mill far too often! Lost for words!

09 Nov 2014 21:36:56
Strewth Greeny,

Did you put a shrimp on the barby will you were watching the game? Lol

09 Nov 2014 20:29:12
Gary Monk has managed a handful of games and has a small squad of mediocre players yet he owns wenger tactically.

All those "but who.?" arguments can go straight out the window as far as i'm concerned

I woudlnt of tibet'N on him doing so well. he's on fire.

Miss spelt tibetan very wrong haha. Anyway he's a great monk

09 Nov 2014 21:38:25
Terrible monk joke Derby.

I'm having nun of it :-)

Big lol

10 Nov 2014 00:11:37
I drew up a list of EPL managers who are better tacticians than Wenger.

It has grown/

09 Nov 2014 19:43:43
I bet Mourinho didn't think it was going to be this easy when he came back to manage Chelsea.

Sold a few players, bought a few players in, without any real financial outlay, and now his team are ripping up the Prem without even having to break sweat because the rest of the teams around them are average at best.

I this the day dags? Say it :)

09 Nov 2014 20:27:01
I bet he didn't think we'd be such an embarrassment.

09 Nov 2014 20:21:53
Derby,

This morning I sprayed my ar5e with cuprinol because I don't want any splinters from sitting on the fence. Lol.

Dags class lol. A big hug and a cup of hot choc is waiting for you when you finally say it. Your family won't hate you. Wont be easy at the start but I time they will accept you. Lol

09 Nov 2014 21:40:24
Derby,

Trust me, the fence is blowing in the wind towards the 'Wenger out' garden.

09 Nov 2014 18:37:57
Wengers interview, " it was a very tactical game". Well surprise surprise we've lost a tactical game again. Or at least a game where tactics and know how , would have won us the game. Wenger sits there and does nothing, and monk changes to get a result. I have had it up to my back teeth with wenger, he is inept. Chambers at half time should have gone center back and pacy bellerin right back. If someone is quicker, stronger or bigger, you sort it. Clueless!

Don't always agree with Steve as I am a bit more optimistic, but this time he is so right!

C'mon Wenger, wake up!!

I agree Steve, I posted earlier about Chambers but it went on the other page, Chambers had a mare from the kick off, we should have kept Jenks giving us the ability to put Chambers in the middle.

Wenger has to go he hasn't a clue what to do to win a game.

Just lucky there are so many **&^&* sides in the league.

Ivnever read a post by steve that iv not agreed with. He sees it as it is. Some of us need to wake up

Some???

There are loads who need to Derby

The likes of Steve, myself and 62 are in the minority

Iv been wenger out for years banbury. Hel regret not walking with the fa cup I feel :(

09 Nov 2014 20:55:39
It's probably because while every single person in the universe knows the problem with Arsenal, the defense, the CM, injuries, the board, the wages, Wenger's disproportionate power and control at AFC, his lack of winning, poor buys, no buys etc.

We compare to say 95% of the other clubs in the world and think we have room to grow, we have had a reasonable year last year, things go in seasons and no team in football stays at the top forever. We will be top for another period in my life, and to be fair, a lot of that will be due to Wenger and his economic prowess and guiding the club through a recession amid a global depression and 400 million move.

Basically, you lose perspective too quick. One game or a run of games the sun shines, one loss and the same stuff we all know about is sung like old landsyme after ten pints.

It's still 2 losses in the league this season. Everyone has two. We aren't going to win the league but never were. Wenger will be gone in two years and will leave a cracking squad and good bank balance.

09 Nov 2014 20:55:39
It's probably because while every single person in the universe knows the problem with Arsenal, the defense, the CM, injuries, the board, the wages, Wenger's disproportionate power and control at AFC, his lack of winning, poor buys, no buys etc.

We compare to say 95% of the other clubs in the world and think we have room to grow, we have had a reasonable year last year, things go in seasons and no team in football stays at the top forever. We will be top for another period in my life, and to be fair, a lot of that will be due to Wenger and his economic prowess and guiding the club through a recession amid a global depression and 400 million move.

Basically, you lose perspective too quick. One game or a run of games the sun shines, one loss and the same stuff we all know about is sung like old landsyme after ten pints.

It's still 2 losses in the league this season. Everyone has two. We aren't going to win the league but never were. Wenger will be gone in two years and will leave a cracking squad and good bank balance.

09 Nov 2014 21:12:45
Damn fine post Ozil.

Good assessment.

09 Nov 2014 18:36:53
Very disappointed with todays result and performance. I don't get why Wenger did not change Chambers he was getting skinned alive by Montero and that of course is where their winner came from. Sort of have to agree with Merson tactically clueless. We can only play one way and cannot defend. I have thought Wenger currently is losing the plot by assuming if we play our game then we will win and does not take into account our oppositions tactics. Out thought and out fought so many times. This is the first time I have said this but I want Wenger out.

Chambers is better at CB I don't why Wenger does not play him alongside Mert until Kos comes back and play Bellerin at RB. That way we don't get exposed to having to play Monreal who is quite frankly a mistake waiting to happen at CB. Kos can't come back quick enough really.

Ramsey was poor Cazorla was poor, Flamini adds nothing to the team either defensivly as a shield or offensively. Wellbeck also quiet apart from that one chance he missed.

So too many players not at the races with only Sanchez and Ox having half decent games. Far too sloppy on the ball with our passing and too casual with no urgency.

Cazorla and Ramsey both need to be dropped as there are just not performing at present. Podolski need to be given a chance.

09 Nov 2014 18:08:38
Closer on points to the bottom of the league than the top after 11 games. scary!

09 Nov 2014 17:48:37
Wenger needs to stop trying to protect Bellerin! Every time he's been called up to the first team he's been very impressive. He'd be much better at right back than Chambers who is more made for centre back, much better than Monreal at the very least who is total dog turd.

We're we're worse than we've ever Bern in these last 8-9 years.

09 Nov 2014 18:34:28
I have to stop posting from my phone. Autocorrect is killing me.

09 Nov 2014 17:37:44
EDIT

Or even nick a draw

09 Nov 2014 16:42:07
Very very poor

Chambers is having a mare .

Lets hope the 2nd half is better

09 Nov 2014 13:53:33
2-2

Are you cheering for Swansea today?

Both

Clearly

Im being realistic

Can't be part of a site where fellow fansime you Banbury want us to lose. I don't think you really grasp the consequences of being out the top 4.

Thanks Eds for all your work and to the true supporters of our club. 40 years of support or 1 year of support it doesn't matter. Want your team to win games and finish as high as they can. Even if 4th is the peak.

09 Nov 2014 17:32:35
Come on Rocky,

I think you are over reacting.

Banbury was merely saying that we might need to finish out of the top 4 to make the board (and Wenger) react and do something about our current plight.

I don't think he, or G62, said they wanted us to lose matches.

Thanks Dags because I thought I must have miss worded my posts, I never want us to lose games ever but I do want us to be the best we can be.
I'm not asking to dominate the CL or PL or even win either just to challenge for them and not continually be the best of the non runners as that is a realistic ask.
We only have two injured defenders Debuchy and Kos yet we have a defensive crisis because we went into a season with only 2 CBs, Jenks is doing well at West Ham on loan while we struggle to put out a defence at all?
We have the resources to be much much better than we are and if it takes us finishing 5th to make us finally use them its long term gain for short term loss.
There's a world of difference between that and wanting us to lose games.
So Rocky please understand and reconsider your decision

G62
You wod rather come 5th than 4th.
Your words.
So if we were a mid table team you wouldn't support Arsenal?

No Rocky if I was a let's say Stoke supporter I wouldn't expect to be top 4 because I would accept the clubs limitations as I do ours.
I want us to be the best we can be and we're not doing that, this was so obvious coming into the season hence my pessimism compared to last years optimism.
I don't ask for 80 million players that's not within us but its not hard to see how we could make room for better players by letting players who are bit part players at best at present go and replace them with better without breaking us
I will say it again I want us to be all we can be no more no less and if taking one step back to take ten forward is what has to happen to make it come about its a shame but if that's what it takes the sooner the better.
It hurts watching us not achieve all we could because Arsene does what he wants and is allowed to do so because he always achieves the minimum the board wants him too regardless of how the fans feel.
Groundhog suits them maybe but not me or people who support Arsenal above Arsene

It hurts me as much as anyone G62 but it's infuriating when fans make statements like you did and others do its not just you, but you said categorically you would rather finish 5th than 4th.
That's why I'm off because people can't be true to what they say!

09 Nov 2014 19:38:53
Damn fine reply G62.

Thanks Dags, Rocky I am sorry you feel that way mate and although we don't agree I respect totally your right to feel how you feel.
But surely I'm allowed be them right or wrong to express my feelings and views as much as anyone else if not why did I join this site?
I have never ment to offend you or anyone else and for the fact I have i'm sorry

09 Nov 2014 03:40:53
Just a quick thought on Arsene's future. I believe that although Sir Alex was a winner, a superb motivator and a ferocious competitor, Wenger comes across as the most intelligent as the two. I believe that surely Arsenal will give Wenger the same input into bringing in his successor as United gave Fergie due to his commitment and longevity at the club.

It would not surprise me if this is why the board are not competing with other European superpowers in terms of financial clout in the transfer market at the moment because they know a new manager will want to reshape the whole squad to his liking. I believe Wenger will have someone in mind, maybe someone with a lesser reputation but with a similar analytical football brain like himself. This is why it is pivotal we keep Ozil at the club because along with Sanchez they are our main draw for luring future established names.

{Ed001's Note - no, they are competing as best they can, but they have the FFP rules to consider. You did spend a big wedge in the summer you know, there was a definite attempt to 'compete' when you paid top money for Sanchez, Chambers and Welbeck.}

09 Nov 2014 07:37:13
Wenger should not be allowed any say on who his successor should be. His methods and his vision are 10+ years out of date.

09 Nov 2014 09:30:04
Hi GDU,

I know you're pretty new to the site and not sure if you recall the joke competition we had a while back, Dags was by all accounts the winner, still waiting for the trophy photo on the Arsenal sightings page, although about 4 others believe they were.

Anyway we're still in the middle of the who can do the best post slating Wenger which has to include the most obscure or bizarre thing you can blame him for competition and afraid that post ain't going to win you nada.

Keep at it though as most have got the hang of it but it's going to be a toughie to win as a few are way way out in front. ;-)

Let's hope Arsene proves all us slaters so very very wrong Red, the odds ain't looking fantastic mate but who knows

09 Nov 2014 14:36:16
Lol Red Dog,

I liked that :-)

Eds i'm sorry I don't believe the ffp stuff. We have a lump of cash in the bank and will make money again this year. I just don't beleive it.

Just my thoughts and I value your input of course.

{Ed002's Note - You are wrong and don't understand. I explained to you before but I guess you were overwhelmed by ignorance and chose to ignore it.}

I did read it. I just don't see how we can be. Our cash reserves are huge mate. Iv never known a business worry with 200mill in the bank or what ever we have. Fine me some articles or words on arsenal facing ffp action.

Not being an person here or a twa just my thoughts

09 Nov 2014 00:16:51
Quite possibly the most amazing thing I have ever seen in football.

Borussia Dortmund are bottom of Bundesliga table after 10 games.

W2 D1 L7.

Amazing.

Yet they've beaten us and top our group, we've done well

Unhappy players?what's the crack there?

09 Nov 2014 12:52:13
Crazy. I hope Klopp gets a team with the resources he deserves