14 Sep 2022 19:42:30
What’s happened on conspiracy page used to enjoy bits on there. It’s gone flat Earth now ?.
{Ed033's Note - Why are you posting this on here and not the conspiracy site?
The Globe Lie is only 1 of the many topics on there. The reason for the Globe lie videos on there is because it's the main lie that can free people's minds.
Dave Weiss is offering 3 Bitcoins if anyone can prove the Spinning Globe is true after taking his App challenge.
No one can prove the Earth is a moving Globe it seems :)
1.) 14 Sep 2022
14 Sep 2022 20:36:51
Ah sorry Ed don’t remember password it signs auto on here. 3 bit coins you say ??.
{Ed033's Note - Right, if you listen to a Dave Weiss video interview, he'll probably talk about his App/App challenge.
2.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 00:30:29
You can call someone on the other side of the earth and they won't be able to see the sun and will be in darkness, while you aren't, yet later they can see the sun and you can't, how does that occur without us being a spinning globe?
{Ed033's Note - It would be good to watch any Dave Weiss video interview because he shows graphics / animations / video.
In basic terms, the 'outer space' we've been presented with is made up fiction. We live in a non moving Realm, in a closed system [can't have air pressure unless we're in a closed system]. We don't know what's outside of the closed system.
The luminaries/stars we see are within the 'barrier'/firmament above us. The stars are close to us otherwise we wouldn't be able to see them with our naked eyes.
The fixed stars rotate above us once a year. The same fixed stars appear in the same place every year [how is this possible if we were hurtling billions of miles every year through an endless vacuum].
The Sun we see is small [same size as the Moon], local and circles above us [between the Tropics]. When the Sun moves close to us we get sunlight and it 'charges' the gases close to us in the air above us giving us daylight as well.
When the Sun moves away from us, the sunlight can't 'push' through the 'thickness' of the air and stops charging the the gases close to us in the air above us leaving us in the dark [except for the self illuminating Moon when it's not a 'New Moon'].
3.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 13:12:24
I will look for his videos and watch them with an open mind mate, but I must admit it seems quite hard to buy, what's the point and benefit of making us believe the worlds a globe and not as you describe? If how you describe it is real.
{Ed033's Note - i provided a link to some of Dave Weiss' videos above.
Because if people believe in a fictional world where anything is possible, then those people will go along with anything presented to them.
For example how many people are going to go along with whatever needs to be done to save the 'Globe' from 'Climate Change'.
4.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 13:21:37
The only vacuum is in the heads of the people who believe this guff.
Also what's this got to do with Arsenal?
{Ed033's Note - Ok great, start talking about Arsenal / football on here.
5.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 13:25:25
I hoped this might be a joke to start with, but clearly this is being taken seriously. I have to read some utter garbage on this sight. HOWEVER, it's footy related so I'm here for it, and it's fine to have different opinions on stuff that involves opinions. Please keep your utter ignorance on what is apparently the utter ignorance page.
{Ed033's Note - You've only got Ad hominem attacks as a reply then? Ok great, you can start talking about Arsenal / football on here if you want to.
6.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 15:44:16
Ok, I'll bite I guess. ed033, your bizarre essay on the flat earth embarrassment has no common sense, is full of contradictions, is reductive of thousands of years worth of study, and is evocative of a dangerous want for childish, cosy ignorance. Stop pretending i have to consider anything you've written to be worthy, because somehow your naval gazing is more educational than the sum of human discovery.
{Ed033's Note - You've only got Ad hominem attacks as a reply then?
i thought you were going to tell me you had a swimming pool with curved water in it. :) [Large bodies of water at rest lie flat.]
What i said is for the few people on here who have eyes to see and ears to hear. It's not for everyone. We can agree to disagree, we're all on our own unique journey.
7.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 16:38:09
Ed033, I can't stand the hypocrisy of telling me I'm only attacking you personally as an argument, whilst you tell everyone they have deaf and blind minds! I know your arguments, they are pap. Leave them on the insecure little victims page. I'm sure everyone wants to get back to a relaxing discussion about something arsenal!
{Ed033's Note - Well look, i'm expecting you to come back with a 'spinning Globe' proof like: Don't you know Ed033, that when anyone flies in a plane at 500 miles per hour, the Globe math necessitates that the plane must descend 1000 feet every 2 minutes otherwise the plane will fly into 'outer space'. Not only that when the plane comes into land, rockets have to propel the plane sideways at around the speed of sound to stay inline with the runway because the of the spin of the Earth. In addition don't you know that planes land upside down in Australia and New Zealand and it takes a bit of getting used to walking around upside down. :)
Obviously we all know none of that happens, we know we take off, fly straight and land on a non moving runway. Now how is that possible on a 'Spinning Globe'?
And what happens with you is, if i say to you, give me 1 proof the Earth is moving and 1 proof the Earth is a globe, your answer would probably be; ok, your arguments are pap and the conspiracy site is the insecure little victims page.
8.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 21:06:30
What is it with all this shyte talk.
{Ed014's Note - no idea mate, not my thing to be honest.
I honestly couldn’t give a toss what shape the world is!
It’s just weird that all the countries that have put shit into space have sent images back of a globe.
They must all be in on it! ??
9.) 15 Sep 2022
15 Sep 2022 22:06:29
14, the only shape I’m interested in is the shape of my pint glass
I’ve been coming on here for about 13 years and I’ve never been so bored reading this crap.
{Ed014's Note - ?? it’s each to there own mate, some people love the conspiracy stuff but it ain’t for me.
10.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 01:30:48
For my own mental health as a scientist, I'm forced to assume that page is satire. I'd say to each their own, but we saw where that nonsense got us with people's uninformed opinions on public health and the idiocy that ensued.
11.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 05:57:36
Sorry this is my fault guys, I’ve forgot my password but it auto signs me on this page not the conspiracy page. I decided to take a look on the page as there used to be some interesting stuff on there but it’s dominated with the flat Earth stuff now. I didn’t expect ed33 to come bolting out like a trapdoor spider.
{Ed033's Note - At least people now know why we have different sites. And why you shouldn't ask conspiracy questions on a football site.
12.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 10:43:28
I take a break for a couple of days and come back to this little gem.
I don't care for conspiracy theorists or the people that expend the energy to attack them. Looking at you gunnerned.
If Ed033 wants to believe the earth is flat, I don't really see why this has to get your back up? You're at liberty to believe whatever you want, read whatever you want, scroll past stuff that doesn't interest you. But no! You had to spew vitriol.
It wasn't like he just popped in out of nowhere and spammed a link. He was asked about it.
Also, I've never had a relaxing discussion about Arsenal.
#coyg #roundthingsmatter #gravity.
{Ed033's Note - Good post Sharpie.
13.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 12:05:52
Good point sharpie, millions of people around the world believe in god and they are not deemed insane so each to their own I guess.
14.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 10:35:58
As an ex merchant seaman who has been on every continent bar Antarctica every Ocean more seas than I can count 2 mountains and 3 deserts. Who as seen a ships mast rise above the horizon many times and has seen the sun rise from the equator and north and south of there. I can attest as every sailor who have sailed the majestic beauty of this little globe it is exactly that a globe. I can also remember The Flat Earth Society advertising that they had members all over. wait for it THE GLOBE! Nuff said. let's stop this foolishness now!
{Ed033's Note - There's videos by Navy people who now realise they need 'line of sight' for Radar and using certain weaponry. How can 'line of sight' Radar and certain weaponry work if the 'enemy' ship is hidden by alleged 'curvature'?
Try debunking this [on the conspiracy site]: Large bodies of water at rest lay flat :).
15.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 12:15:34
Sharpe, I'm only going to make one more reply on this thread, as yours is an interesting reply, and I'm not here to upset the casual arsenal posters.
This isn't opinion vs opinion. Ed033 volunteered an essay on something not true, then capped it off by saying we're duped by "lies" to believe climate change. This blinkered ignorance is akin, and also leads to antivax, anti body autonomy, and movements rife in misogyny, homophobia and racism. I don't look for these backwards thoughts on the Internet, but when I see them I'm not ashamed to ***k them off as I see fit. These issues will affect my children, family and friends far into the future. These people weaken our society. They have lead to deaths, and will lead to more deaths.
All the best, carry on.
{Ed033's Note - Instead of trying to debunk my text with sound reasoning, you opt for using crazy buzzwords; "misogyny, homophobia and racism" etc.
16.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 13:28:38
It’s saga the sailor man
He lives in a caravan
When he goes swimming
He chases all the women
It’s saga the sailor man.
17.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 15:59:21
gunnerned, thank you for taking the time to reply rationally.
You've admittedly come across stuff like this elsewhere on the internet, as have most of us, and we're still here. Movements are made of of several different types of people. The believers, the lookie-loos, the ones that want something to believe in, etc.
You're not silencing them with the approach you've taken here. All that time and energy wasted to accomplish the sum total of nothing. You could have hugged a loved one and had a greater impact.
I actually see where you're coming from on misinformation, but pick your battles. I mean who cares if someone thinks the earth is flat? The worst that could happen is someone will try to walk off the side.
#casualposter #hugalovedone #coyg.
18.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 16:03:36
You codding us, Mala? Who the feck is saga the sailor man? I even tried looking it up on google.
19.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 16:25:45
Would I cod you sharpie
That’s the pop eye song.
20.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 21:19:50
Stop giving sharpie ideas! It’ll be the flat Earth causing his fecking watches not to work! COYG I love a ridiculous conspiracy theory Lord Lucan Shergar Guy working down a chip shop swearing he’s elvis! They’re no fun if not ridiculous! But each to their own I’m a classic Sheeple apparently! I’ll cope COYG.
21.) 16 Sep 2022
16 Sep 2022 21:41:38
There a bit like johovas witnesses sharpie everyone hates them, there’s no telling them there idiots but when they come round I take time for them to make them feel they have at least not waisted their time . Just one of those things # look after the sick.
22.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 09:08:55
Sussex, your obsession with my watch is misplaced, mate. It's just a Swatch. That RG bloke will have a proper watch.
Auba, that's usually our first mistake. Thinking someone who believes differently to us needs to be hated or that they're idiots. I've had a few conversations with JW bloke at the door and he was actually rather nice.
23.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 09:32:09
Shadows wouldn't become longer during the day on a flat earth and there for the sundial would never have been invented.
{Ed033's Note - Are you assuming the Sun is 93 million miles away. The 'outer space' we've been presented with is a made up fiction. The Sun we see is close above the Earth. A closer Sun does leave shadows as we see. There is no falling off the edge because Antarctica is actually the shoreline around the world pond.
24.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 10:35:27
I agree Sharpy I see the poor JWs who knock on my door as victims and feel nothing but sympathy for them and respectfully talk to them about the weather and other neutral stuff. I strongly dislike the JW as an organisation but I have absolutely no bad feelings towards its poor victims who have been conditioned to think and believe what the organisation has told them to think and believe. I know some religious people can be pretty hard core and forceful with their views but the forceful and dogmatic they are the more sympathy I feel for them as they are obviously quite poorly.
25.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 11:55:07
Why do we always have to prove conspiracy theorists wrong. We live in a democracy where the vast majority believe the earth is round, so you prove us wrong, or let’s just have a democratic vote, is the world round or flat, and I think we know what will win. As for any navy sailors talking about radar, what absolute claptrap. Any RN sailor who backed the world is flat nonsense based on their ships radar doesn’t deserve to be in our armed forces. Anyway, how many naval ships are there around the world, all with radars, and yet thousands of sailors haven’t stepped forward to say actually, why can our radar can see hundreds of miles at sea level? The answer is they can’t, as the Moscova sinking proved. If they could then the RN could have saved billions by not having to build the Sampson AESA radars high up the insfrastucture on the class 45 destroyers to give them maximum range. These are perhaps the best anti air warships on the earth, but even with the Sampson radar, they also need shorter range line of sight defence systems, using radar and potentially IR laser targeting, as they can be vulnerable to anti-ship misses that skim at sea level, as guess what, because of the curvature of the sea the main radars can’t see them until they are only about 45 miles away, so they also have systems such as the Phalanx which are radar guided and designed for close in defence ( inside the horizon) I may not care about conspiracy theories, but I do love my military tech.
{Ed033's Note - Well done EppingGooner, you probably just proved the Globe is a lie with your 45 miles text. Using the 'Globe Math', this tech would have to be about 1350 feet in the air to detect a boat 45 miles away otherwise you've got hundreds of feet of curvature in the way hiding the boat.
What it means is, we now have tech that prove the 7,900 mile diameter Globe is a lie. We can see/detect stuff that should be hidden by hundreds of feet of curvature and this is why Navy people and other people are now realising there is no sea curvature. Repeat after me; Large bodies of water at rest lay flat :).
The likely reason for the 45 mile limit is the tech itself is the limiting factor not any fictional curvature.
26.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 12:05:11
Hi Ed033 mate, have you ever noticed that if stand on the ground and look as far as your eyes can see and then go to the first floor of building and do the same thing you can see much further, and if you go to the second floor of the building you can see further still, personally i don't believe our eyes sight miraculously improves with height but our ability to see past the horizon improves the higher we climb which is why the earth's curve is quite plain to see from the edge of space.
{Ed033's Note - Right, our eyes can only see so far, but due to perspective the higher up we are, this 'pushes' the optical 'horizon' we see further out.
High altitude balloons can get up to about 120,000 Feet and what the mainstream do is have a wide angled lens / fish eye lens on the balloon, which curves straight lines in order to fool people into thinking there is Earth curvature.
However if the high altitude balloon has a normal lens on it, we see no curvature [and no spinning either]: see 2 minute video below.
27.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 15:13:34
Ed033, I'm going to pretend this is Dragons Den and that you're trying to get me to invest in your company.
I like your enthusiasm for your product, but I can't get behind it. So for that reason, I'm out!
{Ed033's Note - Ok thanks. I give you permission to submit a post about Arsenal / football on here. :)
28.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 16:48:40
Sharpie I was out after the second post
Load of all tosh.
29.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 12:51:48
Hi Epping mate, as you say what's it matter who thinks the earth is flat or round it's not that important, much like whether Paul McCartney isn't the real Paul McCartney but hss been replacement Paul McCartney since the 60s, but not sadly not all conspiracy theories are equally innocent and harmless as these two examples.
30.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 17:12:53
Hi Ed033, do you mind if I ask you a genuine question? I'm just interested in why you personally find it easier to accept a YouTube clip of a UFO as being credible but struggle to accept the moon landings as being genuine?
It's just a question that intrigues me.
{Ed033's Note - i am highly sceptical of UFO footage as it could be faked or it could be anything. However the Moon Landings video is clearly filmed on Earth.
NASA's Laughable Apollo Lunar Lander [7 minute video]
bitchute.com/video/3dXwQAlQ3828/
31.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 18:05:37
Ed033, please know this question comes only with an inquisitive nature and with no malice. On the moving sun diagram that you posted, why can the sun illuminate places further away and not one's closer, when the sun is directly above what is a 2D plain. Surely if the sun was above a plate-shaped land mass, it would just illuminate the whole thing and certainly not places further away than ones that can't be lit. Without breaking the laws of physics, it would just be one continous day.
{Ed033's Note - You couldn't match what goes on above us in the sky in your house, but you could take a table and a torch in a room at night with the lights off and place the torch just above the table and you will see that only part of the table is lit. Forget about this idea that the Sun is 93 million miles away. Haven't you looked at clouds in the distance and seen diagonal [crepuscular] sun rays. Don't you think that if the sun was 93 million miles away, we would always see parallel sun rays?
The exact mechanics of what happens with the Sun that we see at the celestial level and the interaction with the firmament is unknown. The animation is a basic approximation based on what we experience. You can't say that any laws of physics are being broken until you know the exact mechanics going on at the firmament/celestial level.
It seems that Government agencies and their contractors have been trying to figure out this realm since the 1940s according to some declassified documents (see below 2 minute video).
Government agencies and their contractors' declassified Documents state Earth is Flat and Non-rotating [2 minute video]
youtube.com/watch?v=rKRMHy0zDnE
32.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 19:28:03
Fair enough Ed033, just one more question as long as your happy to answer it of course, why is it easier for you personally to accept an ice wall and all else that goes with a flat Earth rather than a spinning globe? I am simply intrigued and trying to understand why some people believe things that are so at odds with scientific world's thinking and everything else that most other people believe.
{Ed033's Note - If you had read and 'absorbed' all the text i have written here and watched the videos i posted, then you would already know the answer because i told you why. How about reading through all my text again slowly and watch the videos, then you have your answer.
33.) 17 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 20:25:27
Fair play Ed033, I will leave you to it mate. Thanks for engaging much appreciated.
{Ed033's Note - ok thanks.
34.) 18 Sep 2022
17 Sep 2022 22:59:27
In other words Gunner 861 RTFT ( Read the Text ) ??.
{Ed033's Note - There's nothing scientific about curved sea water :)
35.) 19 Sep 2022
19 Sep 2022 16:03:13
I asked a question one the page and my post got deleted, what about people that have seen the curve with there own eyes, are they liars?, fish eyes lens people say makes the earth curve but then nothing else in the video/ photo is curved, there have been lazor tests done and proved the earth curves, this was done but flatties, and then they still denied it lol, you can’t talk to these people, they will deny everything you say.
36.) 19 Sep 2022
19 Sep 2022 16:12:35
Can ed explain how an eclipse works on a flat earth model.
37.) 21 Sep 2022
20 Sep 2022 22:53:58
There has been a lot of negativity towards ed33 on the posts above and although I am not a believer in his views I have found the chat captivating and has had me deep thinking, thank you ed as always I appreciate your continued contribution as I do all eds ?.
{Ed033's Note - It takes at least months or even a couple of years of looking into the Globe lie before people can realise the spinning globe is a lie.
38.) 22 Sep 2022
22 Sep 2022 18:47:06
Wow this still going, get a lot for ten Bob. Fracking is back as well ?.
{Ed014's Note - so it was you who started it! ??
39.) 23 Sep 2022
23 Sep 2022 05:52:43
?? sorrt.
{Ed014's Note - so you should be! ??