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03 Dec 2014 09:13:22
Ed's just a quick question about Paul Pogba. He is probably the best player in the world at his age at the moment but how attainable is he? Would Juve sell at the right price? And would Manchester United get any money in regards to a sell on fee?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea put a lot of effort in to trying to sign him in the summer but he signed a new contract. There is no sell on fee.}

28 Nov 2014 08:24:45
I keep seeing story upon story about this young Odegaard from Norway. Apparently his dad is in contact with 2-3 top teams throughout Europe almost every day regarding his sons future. Has anyone ever seen him play? Is he that good? Of course he is still a child but does he have the potential to be the next big thing?

And of course the obvious question of do Arsenal hold any interest in the young man? We do love our kids here at Arsenal and we have the set up to help kids like him make it in a strong league.

Also I see we have been linked with James McCarthy of Everton lately. Again another player we should have signed from Hamilton years ago but passed on him or we should even have poached him from Wigan but nonetheless I would be very pleased with this if it happened.

1.) Ødegaard has bigger potential than most. he's more attacking and more dynamic than Cesc at the same age. In world football, he must be the biggest talent around. Bigger than Ronaldo and arguably Messi. Best player in Norwegian Tippeligaen at the age of 15!! This little dude is the only youngster we should be looking to buy. at any cost! Barring injuries, he will be a worldbeater by 21, maybe before.

2.) 28 Nov 2014 23:11:07
Well if u keep hearing about him he must be good , I don't hear much about bad players to be honest!

3.) He is really talented. Mature style of play, good vision, amazing technique and a fantastic calmness for his age. ¨

I think right now Ajax, Barcelone and Real Madrid is the three competing sides. But Arsenal should be going for him as well.

4.) He looks really good imo. Really good vision and technique and at that age. The Norwegian league is anything to write home about, but he does make people almost twice his age look like infants.

Arsenal should really get him, but I don't think we will. Read somewhere he is a liverpool fan.

23 Nov 2014 08:51:23
Reading that Jack Wilshere is about to sign a five year deal worth £150,000 a week. I can't ever begin to comprehend that.

My god.

1.) If we give him this were a joke. The most overrated player on our team

2.) Are u both as dumb as wenger is wilshere been man of match in last three England games being played in different position play him in same place watch the boy dominate every week play Ramsey as attacking mid

3.) Young Jack doesn't dominate Anyone When we play the big teams. I don't fault his effort at all. He's just not good enough in the final third. Loses the ball at the edge of the box to a possible counter, or he gets founded or barged and sits there complaining to the ref instead of getting on with it. His finishing as we saw vs the mancs is nowhere near good. On our counters he lacks pace or strength to hold onto the ball and ends up on the floor.he gives his all but just isn't going to be anywhere near the standard required for a championship team. I don't see how people can disagree with this.too much national biased maybe?

22 Nov 2014 03:01:33
So with our interest in Cech starting to gain pace a few sources are claiming that there are several elite teams chasing him from all around Europe but apparently his family (wife and kids) are extremely settled in London which is why he choose to stay with Chelsea knowing that he was going to be 2nd choice. £7million seems like a no brainer but £150k a week? Personally I'd sanction the deal but with FFP and the reluctance of our board to let penny's slip from their pockets it may be a stumbling block.

Could we get him? Is this a good omen for us? I bloody hope so.

1.) I would love to see him sign. The reported fee is relatively low and we could cover his wages for FFP purposes, by selling Podolski & releasing Abu Diaby.

2.) 22 Nov 2014 13:41:55
He's a world class keeper but I don't think we should make him the highest paid player at the club with £150,000

{Ed025's Note - i dont think he is particularly needed TPG, put all the funds towards a top DM for me, and a centre half..

3.) Exactly Ed025. Whilst he would be a great addition to the squad, he would be more of a luxury and there are much bigger priorities such as the positions you mentioned.

4.) Exactly Ed025. Whilst he would be a great addition to the squad, he would be more of a luxury and there are much bigger priorities such as the positions you mentioned.

5.) Cech is a must signing. Very much needed. Buikd from the back asap

6.) Yeah you're right. Put Cech in goal and all our problems will be solved.

We're all screaming for Arsenal to sort it out at the back but spending a large portion of our wage bill on a keeper is foolish until then. All of this, ofcourse, is my opinion but Sczeszny and Ospina are decent enough to not worry about until we have a more balanced and stable team outfield team.

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14 Dec 2014 10:00:47
Even though I personally believe that Arsene should call it a day come the end of the season whether it be basking in glory (Top 3 finish) or (Cup) or (CL) or a blaze of fire (Top 4 or less) and (No cup) I have to say it was refreshing to see the majority of the stadium chanting his name and getting behind him yesterday.

Not for one second do I believe that every fan signing his name yesterday is a pro Wenger fan at the moment but it just goes to show the respect and unity we have for each other. He has a contract for 3 more years whether we like it or not and I for one am glad to see us get behind him while he is still at the helm.

As I've said time and time before although we are inconsistent, as long as we can sustain strong morale in the dressing room, fans backing our club and gain a little confidence from each performance we have the squad to match anyone on our day whether that be City, Chelsea, Madrid or Munich. We need to keep our heads high and keep believing in our ability.

1.) 14 Dec 2014 13:16:04
With you all the way until you said we have a squad to match

2.) So sheeny are you saying that on our day with a fully fit squad we couldn't beat any team put in front of us? The ability is there and we can certainly beat anyone in a one off game. Keep the faith.

{Ed025's Note - im with you VDG..

3.) 16 Dec 2014 06:20:02
We've shown time and time again that we can't. "On our day" means maybe 1 in 5, but any mid table team could do 1 in 5 on their day

{Ed025's Note - i believe arsenal have the 3rd best team in the prem sheeny, maybe thats not good enough for most supporters, but you are the only viable challengers to the big 2 in my eyes, uniteds luck must run out shortly, they are riding a wave at the moment and getting results that to be honest their performance does not warrant, but i suppose thats football mate..

13 Dec 2014 08:08:13
Having a look through the Premier league so far on YouTube and I have got to say John Stones was a remarkable grab by Everton. It's a shame he got injured because he really looks like he has a football brain beyond his years.

Calum Chambers cost us £16million more than five times the amount the Toffees signed Stones for. Which is ironic because from what I have seen Stones looks five times the player Chambers is.

Remember when it used to be our scouts on the ball with these types of players? Now we are generally spending £10million plus on first team youngsters.

Alas days back yonder how I miss thee so.

{Ed025's Note - stones is a future england captain for me VDG..

1.) 13 Dec 2014 08:25:51
Stones is very good, one of the best young prospects in English football.

We have to give Chambers a chance though.
He's relatively inexperienced and has come into an Arsenal team, that defensively, are all over the place.

Although he collects more yellow's than Ed025 collects empty Southern Comfort bottles, he will settle down and be a good player.

{Ed025's Note - my solicitor is now working overtime..

2.) 13 Dec 2014 09:39:58
Is it National pick on Ed025 day? :-)

{Ed025's Note - i can handle it dags...im a real man.. :)

3.) 13 Dec 2014 15:36:12
I know Ed, I've seen the DVD :-)

13 Dec 2014 00:18:59
This isn't Arsenal related but I would like to get some of the regulars opinions on this question as well as the EDs. Who do you see as the biggest sleeping giant of English Football who could be at the very top given the right Investment?

Obviously Southampton with their huge southern following and an academy to die for together with an 'Ambramovich' type owner would be unbelievable. Aston Villa have the majority of the midlands as a fan base and have a credible history to attract players should the right man at the helm stump up transfer fees and wages. Or maybe even the Hammers as they have a top fan base with a decent reputation to back that up.

But as I read about the potential of American consortiums interested in buying clubs like Tottenham for unbelievable sums I always wonder why no major Ambramovich' type buyer considers Newcastle United. They have a loyal support up north, a killer stadium which is steeped in history and the city lives and breathes our sport. Although they have Mr Ashley who is one of the worst men in football at the moment they are still doing their very best to maintain top table finishes. With major investment I believe they could attract top players.

So my question to the Eds is has anyone major tried to complete a takeover of Newcastle in recent times?

And my questions to you lads are is their anyone else you believe giving the correct funding could be a force in a few years to come?

{Ed025's Note - obviously im biased VDG, but for me everton would be top of that list, not only because we are the longest serving team in the top flight, but like newcastle we have fantastic loyal supporters and are also the 4th most successful club in english history, the problem is that goodison is a very dated stadium and that needs addressing as a matter of urgency to attract investors, then there is the main factor that puts the buyers off...were not in london!...QPR, spurs and the hammers have all attracted big money yet are miles behind everton in history, support, and achievement, dont get me wrong i dont want an oligarch or sheik to ruin us, i still want us to be a proper club like arsenal mate..

1.) I agree with Everton completely Ed025 but I would currently class them as a 'big' club in our country now. Splashing out on Lukaku showed real intent last summer. They have managed their club well over the past years and I have to give a massive thumbs up to David Moyes and even Roberto Martinez in recent seasons.

I thought when Moyes snatched 4th spot a few years back major investment would have come in and the stadium situation addressed. I don't know what happened to the idea floated a few years ago about a combined stadia in Stanley Park for both the red and blue but I thought it was a decent idea. It would have been the equivalent of the San Siro on the Mersey!

{Ed025's Note - a lot of supporters were dead against it VDG, i thought it made perfect sense myself mate..

2.) Its Everton for me too, of all the clubs billionaire's chuck money into I'm totally amazed not one has tried for Everton.
If I found a four leafed pixie who granted me 15 wishes but he added some strange clause that I couldn't get Arsenel Everton would be my next chioce.

3.) 13 Dec 2014 15:28:30
Go north of the border. Its Celtic

If Everton are the sleeping giant Celtic is a dormant . If they were in the prem they wouldn't even need the mega investors just an initial cash flow to sort out the current crop that aren't up to scratch.

12 Dec 2014 12:03:50
Rob - I am not having a go at you I am just stating their is reality and their is fantasy. The reality is we are never going to sign those players you are talking about in January and even in the summer the chances are slim. This time last year did anyone mention any of the players we signed this summer? Sanchez, Welbeck, Chambers? No. In January we have to be realistic, simple as that.

In terms of the players your talking about getting rid of all at once.

Arteta - He is first and foremost our captain. He is a leader both on and off the pitch and gives his all in every single game. He is the utmost professional on the ground and around the club. He mentors our young kids and dedicates much of his time out with game day to our club. He may not be as good as Alonso, Xavi or Modric but he is a great player to have in and around our club.

Monreal - He isn't the best of players of but he gives his all every game. He plays wherever he is told and does as good a job as possible. He is a flexible and dependable squad player with EPL experience. What more do you want in a squad player? Do you want every squad player to be a world beater?

I could go on about the plus's of the others too. At the end of the day I would love nothing more than to sign all those top players and integrate them into our team but it's just not going to happen so why ponder it continually?

A few other points about overhauling the whole squad at once are as follows:

A) These are human beings with contracts and families. They aren't going to just uproot their whole life at the whim of the club. These guys have kids at schools, wife's who are settled and things like that. By forcing players out it causes them to dig in, see out their contracts and bring the morale of the team down.

B) Why would anyone want to join us if we start shipping out loyal players due to a few indifferent performances? So we want to sign a squad player to add depth to our team but the player thinks 'why should I uproot my whole life when if I am not the best player on the park every chance I get the fans will call for my head?'. Would you leave safe employment to take a risky job when you have a family and bills to pay etc? Yes players must leave but you don't go selling half the squad with experience all a once.

C) What would it do for the harmony amongst our squad? Forcing out folk you have a relationship with in the dressing room all at once will cause problems in any environment. Players will be on edge worrying about their own performances every week because they might be next out the door. At the end of the day these are real people not pawns on a chessboard you can just throw aside anytime it suits.

Yes we need better players, yes we need investment and yes we need to get back on top but rebuilding is a gradual process. We have the building blocks in place already, we just need to add a few next year, keep the camaraderie in the squad high and keep the mentors aka Arteta to help our youth grow into top professionals.

Again Rob I'm not having a go at you I just want you to see is it isn't as easy as ship A, B and C out the door and replace them with X, Y and Z. There is many factors to consider.

1.) VDG- While I agree your view is the most realistic as were not playing football manager or Fifa. Everything you have stated is exactly what Mr Wenger himself thinks but there lies the Problem.

The top top Mangers are ruthless if you aren't up to scratch your gone. you surly can't feel sorry for professional footballers its the name of the game. its not as if their on minimum wage and with family's to feed and bills to pay. Most of them earn ridiculous money per week. So I don't think ill shed a tear for them if they have to uproot their familys.

Ferguson, Mourinho would not have players playing at 70% week in week out and let them get away with it. That's where the winning mentality comes from, at Arsenal when you lose a game there is no major panic sure there will always be next week or the week after.

If I went into my job and decided i'd slack off and my boss thought it was fine then i'd keep slacking off. its the same model at arsenal. the managers not responsible for results, neither or the player and neither is the board.

Until the players and Manager are made responsible for results nothing will change at Arsenal.

Point is if the players aren't good enough for the club their not good enough. As a huge arsenal fan like everyone else on this page we aspire to win major honours and with Monreal, flamini, and arteta in our side that just won't happen. if you want to be successful in this day and age in football you have to be ruthless and put the club ahead of everyone else. Real Madrid is an extreme take the di maria saga for instance but one thing is for sure there successful I know we can't compete with real with wage and fees be we must be as ruthless with under preforming players

2.) Strong post VDG - can't believe so many misinterpret what you are saying. Yes upgrade but just a few spots and make all the others better. No one is saying stand pat.

The discussion board probably disagrees on the amount of changes which is FairPlay but c'mon turn over the whole team and sign half of Saints - lol - not happening and wouldn't want it to.

3.) 12 Dec 2014 16:13:16
Good post VDG.

4.) Lol red rooster, just ask a Liverpool fan if that's the way to go :p

12 Dec 2014 09:07:32
Has anyone watched any of the Ligue 1 this season? Marseille have been fantastic to watch this year and their coach Biesla has got them playing some pretty attractive stuff. Is this the guy who led Ath Bilbao a few years back? Out of interest Ed025/01 do you think he is capable of managing a big club in England?

And in terms of our weak spots (DM) (CB) a couple of guys who have caught my eye for Marseille are Imbula and N'Koulou. I don't know much about either of them but from
what I've seen they seem very good, solid and dynamic players. They would also be eligible to play CL football.

{Ed025's Note - for me VDG bielsa is quality mate (and i know ED01 is a massive fan and wants him for liverpool), he would do very well in the PL and is very well thought of throughout european football..

1.) 12 Dec 2014 10:15:47
He won rave reviews wherever he has managed.

Argentina, Chile and Athletico Madrid all played well under his management.

Good manager IMO.

2.) Me and Ed001 have a bit of a mancrush on Beilsa, though him likes him a little more than I do :P

{Ed025's Note - him does like him lots aron.. :)

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Ed do think Celtic could be tempted by a bid of say £10million plus in January for Van Dijk? They let Wanyama go last Janueary for a similar fee and that is a lot of money for a Scottish club these days.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to discussing money.}

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City will go out.
Chelsea and PSG is 50/50 for me and if Zlatan, Cavani, Silva and co are up for it I think Chelsea will go out.
The mighty Gunners will march on in style and I hope we give it a damn good go this year!

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Arteta must stay and will stay. He is a player who keeps the squads heads high. I think ultimately any players who come in will depend on if Arsene decides to stay at the end of the season. I would love half of the Dortmund side for instance but wherever Klopp goes I think they'll go with him. Having said that we do need a few lads to freshen up our midfield and I fully expect us to do so with one in January and another in the summer.

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I'm with dags. Chambers on the bench for me.

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For anyone to say that they don't rate Pep Guardiola baffles me. Fair play he has had unbelievable talent to work with but managing all those egos in the dressing room and keeping them happy is hardwork in itself. He puts his own stamp on teams, they play unbelievable football and show fantastic commitment and spirit. The way his uses triangles to attack and defend is something else. The guy is footballing genius of the modern game and to any claim otherwise for me is a false one.

Just look at his trophie cabinet and accolades. For me hands down the best in the world at the moment but vastly unattainable.

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So sheeny are you saying that on our day with a fully fit squad we couldn't beat any team put in front of us? The ability is there and we can certainly beat anyone in a one off game. Keep the faith.

{Ed025's Note - im with you VDG..