15 Jul 2013 17:08:17
Ed could we go for Essien on the cheap or is he gunna stay at chelsea?
Thanks {Ed029's Note - You would need to ask Ed02 if Arsenal has enquired about Essien but he did say there was a chance that he would be offered to another club as part of a deal for a striker.}
Arsenal Rumours Archive July 15 2013
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15 Jul 2013 16:04:06
a spanish journalist with links to xabi alonso said that arsenal have bid 40m (pounds) for suarez and 20m (euros) for higuain. add to that we might offer for fabregas now our hand has been forced.
like a massive game of poker involving about 10 decks of cards and dozens of players, with plenty of jokers in the pack, this is getting interesting.
The reason wenger kept his options open, was for this very reason. a player he likes more becomes available.
Suarez over higuain - Yes, but not for 50mil
cesc over fellaini - yes, at any cost.
If Liverpool at 40mil ( not sure if we will go that far) reject our bid, we will wrap up higuain.
and then if cesc is truly on the market, I expect wenger to make a move to bring him back.
however, I really do doubt barcelona are going to sell cesc, when song and him are the only cover for midfield.
I expect them to sign another midfielder or promote one, without selling cesc, I expect them to buy a GK, and I expect them to buy a defender.
additionally I expect them to sell alexis sanchez.
It's not that Cesc is on the transfer market but every player has their price. This guy that made these claims from Spain is a respected Spanish journalist who is followed by Guillem balague and Xabi Alonso.
Suarez will soon hand in an official transfer request. The club know he wants to Leave and will be looking to sell him for a good price.
Suarez will cost £50m at least and your not gunna pay that in 50m years lol. Higuain is the player you will get and that's it.
Ynwa
Hanman {Ed027's Note - keep dreaming if you think Liverpool will get 50m for Suarez
£40 million will get Suarez, this sum triggers a negotiation between LIVERPOOL and SUAREZ, if he decides to leave it will be at that price ( stated in his contract) Why do you think Liverpool are saying it will take no less than £40 million to get us sitting round the table. Shouldn't they be saying more? They cant!! WoolwichArsenal
LFC fan here in peace,
Tbh don't think you'll get Suarez for 40m (pounds) and I don't think we'll get 50m for him either. The 40m clause isn't a release clause, but LFC must notify him of interest but they can still reject the offer. I think he'll go for about 45m personally. But I'll be happy to get the cancer out and more fool Wenger if he wants him in the club.
16 Jul 2013 12:32:02
suarez is twice the player torres was when he left and he has 3 years left on his contract. never get him for £35m
Arsenal will either get Suarez or Higuain
Cesc or Fellaini
And we know have another chance to sign Cesar
15 Jul 2013 15:28:51
Just heard that man U have said if we don't stand in way of fab to them, they will sell us Rooney at the 25 million
Man utd will say that, get Fabregas and then refuse to sell rooney.
I would rather have fab back than ronney
I would have cesc instead of Rooney anyday of the week
I'd have Fabregas over Rooney any day of the week!
I don't think wenger does such deals.
Cesc any day, why accept Manchester cast offs
What a load of rubbish.
And. Fabregas over Rooney for the same price any day
Paul
Or we could get Fab as CFC get shrek
I think we're all of the opinion that we will take back one of our favourite sons over an overhyped fat scouser who looks like Shrek.
Bring back Cesc!
We get Cesc and force Man4u to sell Rooney for less than 25M. that's Wenger way. remember they are both home grown players and that's rly important!
Cesc all day long. Welcome home son!
Where did you hear that from? Your Mum or your Aunty, as it could only come from your family. RUBBISH
We have put up with so much these last few years, if AW passes the chance to resign Fab only to see him go to Manchester United Arsenal fans will never forgive him and it could be the final wedge between AW and all Arsenal fans who have remained loyal.
Dan
The only way wenger and the arsenal board would allow it, is that Manchester United give arsenal rooney for free. that is the only way.
Easy to say when you can't afford his wages.
"Easy to say when you can't afford his wages"
We can afford his wages- its whether arsenal want pay them or not.
I don't think people realise (which is good, let them underestimate us), just what a good position arsenal are in financially now.
United get fab and then don't sell Rooney.
Moyes said Rooney isn't leaving.
Two reasons why this won't happen, take your pick.
Rooney > a treacherous ingrate who forced a move away by going on strike. Plus we don't need another CAM.
Personally, I prefer Cesc.
StarsplashTaiwan
Taiwan Gunner.
But a striker who actually scores wouldn't hurt.
15 Jul 2013 14:24:18
according to sly snorts spews man u have bid 25 million for fabregas no way he will go there, right?
dave
No chance.
Quality players never want to go to teams with a good chance of winning silverware.
If Barca tell him they don't need him and Arsenal have no plans for him why woudnt he go to Utd. If he does go I think Utd need to stick an extra £10 -£15 million on top of there offer.
Dont underestamate van persies influence on getting fabregas
If barca accept a bid from united, it will send the signal to cesc that he is not needed. and if we don't offer 25million then he might.
No disrespect, but arsenal are unlikely to challenge for the title in the next couple of seasons, and now that he has won silverware at Barca, he might pick utd over arsenal (assuming arsenal even bid) simply because he doesn't want to wait several years for even a decent chance at a trophy.
Also, Arsenal may not bid as the available cash is earmarked for other targets, who may be more important than sentimentality. This bid is important for utd to show ambition otherwise more targets will go elsewhere (like Hazard and Thiago).
Thorne
Lol do you seriously think moyes will be able to challenge for the title with the surrent man u team. he has never beaten a top 4 team away from home and this current man u team has no super stars and your best players are old one injury to van purse strings and your finished. oh sorry I forgot you got welbeck ROTFLMAO!
Couldn't agree more! The best thing about last seasons' and the one before's United team what Ferguson.
Moyes has a tough job, out of the top 4 teams you have to question the United squad, like seriously!
Like you said, one injury to RVP and well, let's just say Welbeck won't be banging in 25+ goals. Ha!
Justagooner - I was going to write exactly the same! Apart from an injury doesn't need to happen to stop Rvp from scoring, he went 10ish games without a goal last season. So good luck moyes, you need it
Lol.
Of all the things you pick at about utd it's the strikers? Seriously?
Rvp I don't need to tell you about, Rooney scored and assisted nearly a goal per game while being shunted around the wings and midfield and not getting a run of games to build on, Hernandez (4th choice) is flat out better than any of Arsenals strikers, which leaves leaves Welbeck. Now I'll grant you Welbeck is not a prolific goalscorer, but he is a useful guy to have around, and he can bully defenders a bit like Heskey did, only he does actually score at least a few goals!
If you wanted to point out utd's deficiencies, you should have started with Anderson's fitness, Nani's infuriating reluctance to show his ability for more than 60 minutes per season, Fletcher's illness, or Vallencias recent form. These are all real problems for utd.
Instead you had to go and look like an person for trying to make utd's strikeforce sound weak, even though they where what won utd the league.
Bravo!
I agree SAF pulled utd through that one, along with the strikers, but the team only needs a tiny bit of work, and even as they are they WILL challenge.
Moyes is similar enough to SAF though, and if he just gets a replacement for Nani, and a quality partner for Carrick (hmm, a Spaniard perhaps?), utd will be right up there with Chelsea and City.
Arsenal will not be challenging this season, although *if* (and it's a big if) the alleged big budget materializes, next season could be realistic, once this summers signings have bedded and a few more tweaks made.
Thorne
Im sure cesc has said before arsenal is his home away from barca.
if utd have bid for him expect a few other clubs to aswell. if arsenal don't want him (i think wenger and the board would take him and sacrifice a purchase that we'd probably need more) then he would possibly go to psg or no-tax'o or someone similar. especially after seeing his former teammates fates with the fans, gael, samir and robin aren't exactly popular for joining rival prem teams.
To the guy saying welbeck was useful he scored twice last season. Heskey once got best twenty goals for the scousers one year and got more than two every season. Welbeck is absolute utter garbage even utd fans call him danny wels**t. Jake88
We can agree to disagree about welbeck, but you're still ignoring the fact that useing Utd's strikeforce as evidence of why they are declining is ridiculous, when it's the best strikeforce in the country.
Like I said, pick on their midfield and you'll get no argument, even from utd fans.
Fair enough but I wasn't using welbeck to illustrate united's decline due to him being part of the strike force. I was just suggesting he's incredibly overrated.
15 Jul 2013 13:22:07
Hi eds love the site, just heard from a scouse mate that liverpool want £30 mil and walcott for suarez, he reckons its a goer wenger is up for it and ready to do business.
Nope.
So Liverpool want £40m or as close to as they can get? Yet your Liverpool mate thinks it would be £30m plus Walcott! Hmm that makes Walcott's value around £7-8m! I think maybe your mate is either life's eternal optimist or more likely knows less than nothing. Walcott cureent value would be circa £20m. So from £30m we are now up for spending £50m? Utter rubbish.
The Ghost of Terry Mancini
Now way will wenger let liverpool have walcott for a small fee of £10 mill, also wenger is proud to have a british spin, so why would he get rid of it, its a total fantasy what your mate has said, don't forget the scousers want walcot and will make up anything to make people think he is going there.
tamikonelf
Walcott is worth 25mill, if the likes of henderson are worth 20 mill.
walcott and 20mill may work.
30mill + walcott. no chance.
No way Walcott is moving, Wenger will not sanction that – think of the hard work of the contract negotiations for Theo.
He scored 20+ goals last season mainly from a wide position, we need Theo big time and he won’t leave for a team not in the CL – we hold the cards on that one for sure!
Henderson isn't worth 20 but Walcott can go for 27m-30m.
Bottom line is we will not talk about our great British core and try to diminish it for the sake of Suarez and Fellaini.
If they come it will be straight cash.
£30m and Ramsey is more appropriate.
I would offer £20m plus Walcott, take Suarez and then go for Eriksen of Ajax to replace Walcott. Cazorla, Suarez and Eriksen as my front 3
Liverpool value suarez at £50mil the same they got for torres the £40 mil is the point they will start talking
I can assure you that 40mil would be the maximum offer for suarez.
after that it will be higuain, and then liverpool will be the ones desperate to offload suarez, when he starts going mental.
If cesc is available, then the cesc & higuain combo looks good. if not then the suarez and fellani combo looks good.
There is a clause in his contract which means Liverpool are obliged to inform him of any offers from clubs over 40mil but they do not have to sell for any less than they value him which is around 45-50mil.
What do you mean when he starts going mental he's been mental or
What do you mean when he goes mental he's been nuts for years missed 20odd games for Liverpool through suspension without a red card
His clause is 40m
Been realistic there is about 5% chance Suarez signs. I can see him moving to one of Bayern Madrid or Barca.
His clause is not 40 m that is the figure he is allowed to talk to other clubs, LFC do not have to sell at at 40m ant
15 Jul 2013 12:24:14
tv reporting Manchester United are going to offer £35 million pounds for Cesc Fabregas.
But remember Arsenal have first choice if he leaves and would only cost us £25 million pounds!
Not sure if that is true anymore. if we do indeed have first choice, or if we have already waived off our first choice.
at one point it was 50% sell on value, then it became, 25mil first refusal.
perhaps someone can confirm this.
Fabregas also has to agree to go the club he can turn down United even if Barca accept that bid and accept Arsenal's counter offer.
Yep heard this as well- 30mil euros bid for cesc, from man utd.
It may cost us £25M to get Fab, but we all know that we will try and knock Barca down even further and will probably lose out to one of our rivals. Fed up with all this pennypinching - if we do not strengthen this summer then we never will. It will be great to pay £70M off the debt, but not so good playing on a Thursday night (if we are lucky in a half empty stadium). This dithering coould seriously damage this club.
Throw away your television.
I can say will near confidence that Fabregas will not be leaving Barca. why would he AND why would he go to Man Utd?
Not shooting the messenger, but the media is just clutching at straws.
15 Jul 2013 13:25:14
bbc reporting 25M
manu. pls.
But saying that.
bet it's true and they sign him. What an insult THAT would be!
With Alcantera off to Bayern today, less likely Barca will consider letting Fabregas go.
If Barca accept an offer he will consider it as he clearly isn't needed much at Barca. Utd can offer bigger wages (albeit not at City or Chelsea levels), silverware and reuniting with rvp.
Its not speculation, the Bid has been made, Barcelona, have to accept or Reject it.
I wonder if there is a 50% sell on clause or if that's just a pipe dream.
How many time does cesc has to say the only english club he will go to will be arsenal, he has said this many times yet it seems it don't sink into peoples head, cesc has always said he will return to arsenal when the time is right for him to do so because he has unfinished business.
tamikonelf
If fabregas goes to Manchester United. I will cry and cry and cry.
Neal
Thank you david you will hopefully force mr. wenger in to action so we sign someone who is world class. Other wise wenger has a lot to awnser for
Bergkamp5353
I think it's €30m the mufc offer
Paul
I really Love this site, you can always tell who is a real Gooner and who is here to cause trouble.
Players who will NEVER be allowed back
* Frank Stapleton
* Ade Bye Whore
* RVP
Fab is a Gooner for LIFE, he will NEVER play for another English club, that is a fact!
RVP, had NO intention in staying with us, as far as I am concerned he will be remember as a rapist another fact.
Sammy Nelson, the greatest left back
Well said - unlike Van Persie Cesc has come out in public and said he would not join Manchester UTD - Don't believe the hype and don't get sucked in by media reports.
MU would not bid for Cesc unless he has given the green light.
Sydney!
Out of all the players we have been linked to fabregas is the most likely. he is the only player that arsene actually knows what he is getting for his money
IP
Tamikonelf, I hope you are right. But I have come to the conclusion that all footballers are a very fickle breed and what they say and do are not always the same.
Case in point Suarez (BTW I am still astounded that we are in for him with all of his baggage etc) - he said he wanted to leave liverpool FC due to the treatment he was getting in England. and now? And there are plenty more examples.
In an ideal world we would get Cesc, higuin etc, but if the players don't push it or want it then htere is nothing the club can do.
Personally if they can't get the players they want I would rather they keep the money instead of spending for the sake of it.
Just my opinion.
SamKT
Efc fan here
man u to buy cesc
Fellaini to arsenal
Anderson + cash for baines to man u
moyes wants to force arsenals hand by snatching cesc and making you guys buy Fellaini
then know we (everton) will be missing a cm will offer Anderson + cash to get baines
This is why Utd themselves have made a bid of just £25million. I expect Cesc to join them for an eventual fee of £30 - £40 million.
It's just unlikely Barca will let him go. Especially if he is being lined up to replaced the 72 year old Xavi.
Also, I can't see Cesc opting to move to United, if he 'loves' Arsenal as much as he says, then he'd never play for United. BUT if he loves Arsenal as much as RVP said, well then. hmm.
Not really rumour, but I believe that United's dominance of the league is finally over. I can see them doing a Liverpool and falling pretty far from grace. The weight of expectation to better or even equal Ferguson is just going to be too much for the next 10 years.
Anyway. bla bla bla something about Higuain.
That settles it guys. Fabregas said he'll never play for another English team.
As we all know, no player has ever said that, then signed for another English team.
Thorne
Im gutted arsenal are turning in to a feeder club.
we need some quality.
get david dean back.
i'm glad hill~wood has gone?
but still think we will sell are best [players}
to whoever?
spurs are catching us with us
so we need something to happen.
car~nt keep hoping wenger magic keeps working
northern gooner
" but I believe that United's dominance of the league is finally over. "
You do realise that has been said EVERY SEASON for the last 10 years, right? During which time they have won the league 5 times.
15 Jul 2013 16:12:34
this is highly unlikely due to thaigo signing for bayern and if twitter was to be taken into account fab would be straight back. lol the only thing utd got was van purse strings.
upsidedowngooner
All the glamour and esteem of Utd as a draw card is slipping. A whinging Rooney, no more Sir Alex to say you've worked under, Anderson, Nani are ageing and Utd don't even want them anymore, RVP, if he stays injury free, has about 1-2 years before he starts to show his age, young backline (Evra aside). Even if Utd make 3 quality signing aside from Cesc, they still only really got the trophy because of Sir Alex, RVP, and a few midfielders showing glimpses (not Scholes though, he was a rock, even at his age). Face it, 'playing for United' just won't be the same honour it has been, not until they completely rebuild that team and get some (major) trophies under Moyes. Not saying Arsenal have been brilliant for a while now, but someone like Cesc belongs at the Barca's/RM's/Bayerns/PSG's of this world. The best teams with the biggest bank, the biggest ambition, the highest quality squads and players, and genuinely challenge for the highest honours. PL aside, Utd aren't that team anymore.
I remember a time when your club used to win trophies no name.
All you best players left as they got fed up not winning. Don't believe UTD will sign Fabregas for one minute as like other posters have said he has emotional ties to Arsenal.
RRED7
So easy to say, but even part of that argument you say Nani and Anderson are ageing! What! They are in their mid twenties, not even peaked yet, and neither has ever been a key player for utd despite occasional flashes suggesting they could be.
Utd have Hernandez as their 4th choice striker, a player who would be first choice at nearly any team outside the top 3 (yes, including arsenal). Like many of utds players, he is below 25. They are a fairly young team, with great youngsters who will be amazing.
Utd do need to strengthen in midfield and on the wings, and they need to keep making a big signing every season or two to show ambition, but they are a long way from falling.
15 Jul 2013 01:49:28
Just wondering if anybody knws of what I read on a certain website,
SILENT Stan owns 67 per cent of Arsenal - but is locked in a multi-national power battle with Uzbek billionaire Alisher Usmanov, who wants a greater say in club affairs.
They both could be on the way out though with a mega-money Arab consortium thought to be weighing up a £1. 5bn takeover bid.
Has anyone herard about this and is it even true?
AFCD
Its old news and silent stam won't sell
tamikonelf
As above, it is old news. However I disagree and I believe Stan will sell at the right price, which won't be as high as people think. I don't this Arsenal has been the project he was expecting.
I want Dein back as was rumoured with a takeover, but don't want megabucks owners ruining AW's hard work. I don't think Usmanov would steamroll like that, so I'd still like him to go for Stan's shares
Usmanov is desperate to buy club and woul pay way over the share price to buy, but stan won't sell as has agreement when bought wouldn't sell within 3year period when bought. Silent stan has not put a penny into the club yet and see's it purely as an investment and will sell eventually. Usmanov however is straight ov the abramovich kind of owner who will bankroll hundreds ov millions in transfers but would chop and change managers for fun. whichwould we prefer? Personally give me the bucket ov cash anyday! Kb888
It would have to be more than that as Fulham's takeover was 1. 7bn {Ed029's Note - Absolute rubbish.}
I think your mistaken, fulhams owner is worth 1. 7billion the deal would have been much less {Ed029's Note - You can see why the Eds don't discuss money can't you.}
Usmanov likely has bigger things on his plate right now.
The Fulham takeover was between £200m and £300m.
People are so melodramatic.
The fulham buyout was for £150 mil, not any higher or lower.
14 Jul 2013 22:53:40
As we all know things will start to rapidly occur and unfold once Edinson Cavani of Napoli signs for Paris Saint German.
The thing you might know is that the domino effect of this transfer is not that Suarez or Higuian will make a move to the Emirates but 'the one that got away' will finally be an Arsenal player. Ibra.
He has done Italy, Spain and France, only England remains.
Watch it unfold
Mo Knows {Ed027's Note - Reunion with his best mate Pep? He hasn't been to Germany either and Gomez needs replacing...
I've heard it all now. Utter drivel. Dazza.
Ed, while I agree with your idea/understand what you're saying, Honigsten made it pretty clear that Pep wouldn't be signing another striker. Pizarro signed a new deal and he plays with 1 up top.
I think they're short but they have Muller and a load of false 9s. Can you see this being put on hold until Jan, depending on how in need Bayern are then?
Failing that, what about Chelsea? {Ed027's Note - I was joking about Ibra, if he did go he might just finish Pep. They'll get Lewandowski next season, for now as you say they have Pizzaro, and can also play Muller, on top of that they have Mandzukic and maybe even Gotze as a false 9. Pizzaro was expected to leave him signing on tells me he is a temporary solution.
No way Wenger would sign a player who rejected a trial! Wenger's ego is as big as anyone's and there's no chance.
Ha cheers Ed, I didn't realise there was some crack about Pep and Ibra!
Can't see Ibra coming to Arsenal, as if Wenger would go back there! Shame, imagine him swallowing his pride enough to sign Ibra.
He is in talks to go Real Madrid apparently.
Ibra and Pep had a massive argument at Barca and didn't talk for 4-5 months before Ibra left.
I'd expect Ibra to go to City if he leaves.