Arsenal Banter Archive March 17 2016

 

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17 Mar 2016 09:57:03
who would take 5th place if it meant usmanov buys stan out?

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17 Mar 2016 22:39:14
Short term failure for long term possible success, than yes.

But, whatever way you spin it, I always want us to finish as high as possible, so no :-)

Good question Derby.

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17 Mar 2016 23:11:16
What about if Usmanov gets control gives Arsene a billion to spend but Arsene can't find anyone to improve his squad?
Money not being available may well become a problem but at the moment it isn't because the club summer after summer go to great lengths to state it is very available.
That might not be what people want to think but
from everything I've read and heard that's reality.

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17 Mar 2016 23:51:36
G62,
The board always say money is available.

Funny enough, just before season tickets are up for renewal.

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18 Mar 2016 06:50:04
I fail to understand the clamour for Usmanov, when Kronke hasn't been the problem, particularly in terms of spending, which is clearly down to Wenger. Incidentally, Usmanov has never promised to bankroll Arsenal personally. What he stated a few seasons back is that he would try and raise funds through an issue, which meant fans could in effect lend the club £100m, which the club would pay back in time. So talks of spending a Billion are complete nonsense, in any event this would breach the FFP rules.
In any event as a major shareholder their is nothing to stop Usmanove handing over funds to the club to spend on players. The fact is that Wenger runs the club from top to bottom and the current model is his, not Kronke's, who has simply left Wenger to get on with things.
I get frustrated with Wenger at times, particularly last summer when Arteta, Flamini and Rosciky should have been replaced and a defensive midfield player or two have been needed for seasons. However, overall, unless a better manager can be employed, Wenger is doing a decent job. I would love to see Dein back on board, as he is a master strategist, who has Wenger's ear.

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18 Mar 2016 08:54:13
why would you hand funds over so stan can take the rewards. and yes usmanov has promised funds.

and stan is a problem 100 percent.

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17 Mar 2016 21:28:56
Well at least the spud are losing! With there Second team, but it could be worse.

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17 Mar 2016 21:46:45
Yes that's there last chance of silverware gone.

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17 Mar 2016 21:02:41
Just thinking ahead, next season us Leicester spuds and one from the Manchester clubs and West Ham in the champions league--- our coefficient could take a battering

Wonder if the loss of that 4th place entrant will be enough to wake Kroenke up!?!

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17 Mar 2016 21:39:29
We are not in it yet next season sooper. don't count your chicks yet.

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17 Mar 2016 22:18:43
I didn't think we had lost the fourth place, I thought Italy were taking it if they did miles better than English teams this year and they havent. Is that definite.

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17 Mar 2016 20:07:03
Villas managing director has resigned from his role, leaving a £1.25m reported salary

Begs the question, if he was being paid that, how much are we wasting on Gazidis?

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17 Mar 2016 20:18:21
Who's Arsene asked hi to get and he failed? That's a serious question, has he failed to deliver the players or has he just been given very little to do?

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17 Mar 2016 20:58:38
G62 Wenger is not the sole cause of the problems. It's corporate failure by him Gazidis and Kroenke as they all have a part to play. Ultimately Kroenke sets the agenda so that's where the buck stops.

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17 Mar 2016 22:02:51
That might be true sooper I'm not saying your wrong but the club consistently state the money for transfers and no one in the know seems to have suggested that's not true
Arsene seems to have got the players he's asked for delivered to him with Suarez the only exption I know of despite us going the extra £1
You say its not all Arsene but other than pure assumption by people I see nothing to suguest anyone but Arsene has prevented us from singing players.

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17 Mar 2016 18:39:27
Have a positive feeling about Everton game.

Positive the coach driver will find Goodison Park without much trouble.

Haven't got a clue if we will win, lose or draw.

Nice positive post that.

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17 Mar 2016 19:04:14
I also had a very nice feeling in my goolies

Must have been the hash.

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17 Mar 2016 19:16:02
I love Goonies.

Good film :-)

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17 Mar 2016 19:33:36
Baby roooot ;-)

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17 Mar 2016 20:02:55
2 2 or 1 2 win for me.

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17 Mar 2016 14:15:45
Happy St Patricks day

Let the session begin.

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17 Mar 2016 14:55:18
Back at you Malaga!

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17 Mar 2016 15:56:15
Same to you mate.

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17 Mar 2016 08:46:25
Sometimes i do wonder whether the players work on their finishing in training sessions. Yes we need a world class striker but they also worked on their finishing to get to where they are. If everyone in the squad finished better, we would have scored about 8 goals having had 20 shots yesterday. I believe everyone can contribute goals and therefore not just rely solely on the striker.
#finishingiskey.

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17 Mar 2016 10:07:49
If you look at both legs and the chances we had which Barcelona would have put away then it's a fair enough comment. We were never going to keep them out but if we put half of the absolute sitters we had we would have been in with a shout.

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17 Mar 2016 17:51:45
Since we beat Leicester we have played eight games winning one keeping two clean sheets, both stats against championship side hull. Some people are suggesting aguero in there and we would win the league. i'm suggesting it is obviously not that simple. In the space of two weeks we have crashed out of three competitions, due to a lot more than that. Yes our finishing is poor but our defending ratio of attacks against goals let in is up there with the likes of villa.

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17 Mar 2016 18:43:25
Agree Steve,
Countless times we have huge possession, lots of chances, all missed and than the other team has one attack and scores.

Than we chase the game, miss numerous chances and concede again from opponents 2nd chance and end up losing.

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17 Mar 2016 19:19:41
Steve we have been absolute rubbish since the turn of the year both offensively and defensively but had we purchased a striker worthy of the name in the summer who could actually finish the countless chances Ozil and others have created then I have little doubt we'd be winning this league.

Our problems outside of that are clear but the striking position is a massive miss.

We could easily have scored in countless games and had no need to chase and then leave ourselves open to the counter.

Yes we need to cover other areas, yes Wenger needed to up his game and failed but a striker would have made a huge difference as a stand alone addition. That I have no doubt mate.

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17 Mar 2016 20:26:54
This season just a good natural goal scorer would have been enough to make the difference IMO but obviously this is not by a long way an average premier league season.

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17 Mar 2016 20:43:16
Stoner gunner, while I do see where you are coming from I don't think its just that simplistic. Major deficiencies in the way we play and mind set would still have been our downfall. But it all about opinions.

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17 Mar 2016 20:52:38
I totally agree Steve a top striker alone would only have been able to cover the other problems not eradicate them.

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17 Mar 2016 21:22:16
Gunner we signed the missing piece of the jigsaw in defence a world class goalie, we have been screaming for one since lehman. Would save us 15 goals a year make us more solid, not let goals in, has it been that way, no. I think that would be the same with just a worldy striker, it would be another sticking plaster, we would find some way to sabotage it.

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17 Mar 2016 21:45:47
The way we have played Steve in failing to covert numerous early chances has been the cause of this poor mindset with us conceding stupid goals and losing games.

The frustration shown by Ozil at times says it all. Can you imagine how Henry would have fared on the end of his creativity.

To take a lead and consolidate it makes a huge difference, that does not detract from the fact we need other players because we clearly do.

Next season will be harder again and then the acquisition of just a striker will be nothing like enough.

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17 Mar 2016 07:49:08
Well that's how we should be playing!
I saw some real talent on the pitch last night.
Barcelona! that's who I am talking about .
Sorry if you thought I was going to talk about our beloved Arsenal there.

We are so far far way away from being on there level it's painful. I think we would have to virtually get shot of every player in our team and start again if we have any chance of competing at that level.
Arsenal have left it so long to bring players in that it has now caught up with us.
I will stick my neck out and say apart from
Cech and maybe Sanchez at a push we have not got one player in the Arsenal squad that would be a regular player in that Barcelona team. I doubt if most of our players would make the bench!

How in the world are you going to attract quality players to Arsenal when we are so far off the pace year after year.
We shop in the bargain basement to start with and when we are going after a quality player we don't want to pay the wages they demand! . So where are we going with it all. We are just stagnating every season.
Apart from MAYBE! Sanchez and Ozil who is there in our present squad that would be like a reference as to why a quality player should play for Arsenal? Barcelona have a whole team of them.
How would you sell Arsenal to a top
player?
" Come and play for Arsenal you can play alongside Welbeck, Ramsey, Mertesacker,
Chambers, Walcott, need I go on? It sounds pathetic doesn't it?

How much have we got to spend again?
I would say whatever it is it's not going to be enough.
Oh and another thing I wanted to rant about too .
What's this constant obsession about being above Spurs all the time even Wenger brings it up sometimes.
Ok they are neighbours etc etc.
But if Spurs finished 17th that's OK as long as we finish 16th.
Maybe the premier league title is just too much for us to handle aswell. If this was our best chance of winning it WELL! what else can you say.

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17 Mar 2016 08:29:40
Comparing where we should be to Barcelona is like saying every female singer is rubbish because their not at Adele level, I thought we did OK for us last night and probably as well as we are capable of over the 2 games against the worlds best team.
Our battle isn't with Barcelona we've a way to go before we need to seriously worry about them our battle is to make ourselves capable of getting 80+ points again and then maintaining that level consistently, one step at a time is what's needed and 80 points in season isn't a bad place to get ourselves back to because that would real genuine progress and something we haven't been capable of for years.
Finishing above spurs and in the top 4 is a fan pleaser that keeps the money coming in and the discontent to a minimum which is job done for club manager players and a lot of our fans, there's no question that we need to raise our ambitions because for a very big club we are a long long way from being all we could and should be.

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17 Mar 2016 08:31:04
I appreciate its your opinion YOBDLOG but with the addition of simply an Aguero in our team the outcome may have been somewhat different.

Way way way over the top. But there you go.

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17 Mar 2016 08:53:11
Aguero would have made us premier league champions this season Stoner for me there's little question of that and over the two legs it would have been much more of a contest with Barcelona had we had him in our side that's for sure, but Barcelona to me never got out of 3rd gear for the majority of the 180 minutes against us and we would need a bit more than just Aguero to make them shift into 5th.
Add a quality CB and ATM to Aguero and it would have been interesting.

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17 Mar 2016 09:25:44
I agree 62 but sometimes we are very harsh on our team and going into a game with little confidence we did well and taking chances makes a huge difference.

We showed against Bayern when the team had confidence what we can do and whilst we need more than a striker, a top one would make such a massive difference for us. Cazorla has been a huge miss.

I know that Wenger is to blame for us not having one but this team with the all important confidence is a different side all together.

We can do little now but get behind the boys for the run in with more hope than expectation.

Play pretty much the same side, keep Giroud, Flamini and Walcott well away from the starting 11 and let's see what happens.

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17 Mar 2016 10:55:48
its always one or two players short. in last nights game, yes augero may have made a difference but over the season i doubt we'd be top of the league.
our spine is fragile and the squad is full of part timers who are well out of their depth. we need a cb, at least one cm, a rw and a cf. and to get rid of a few charlatans currently taking places in the squad.

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17 Mar 2016 14:58:44
AG if we'd taken 10% of the excellent chances we'd created this season in the league wed be top of the premier league by some distance right now, is a striker all we need? No of course not but a top quality finisher would be a giant step in the right direction.
Last night we did OK against a cruise control Barcelona who simply didn't need to be even close to full power to beat us 5 1 that's the reality but as said above over taking Barcelona in the CL isn't even close to being on our realistically achievable to do list for the near future and we shouldn't let a few missed chances delude us about that .
Gaps need plugging and they need doing all in one go because if try and do them bit by bit new ones will appear as Kos Caz and Monreal all get well into their 30s and we're back to square one as always.

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17 Mar 2016 07:23:56
I am proud of the boys yesterday, I know it seems silly after losing three one, but we actually went toe to toe with the marauding Roman army and didn't get as badly hurt as people thought. If we had a potent striker, I feel we might have snatched a draw as the Barcelona defence is awful

Where to from here? Well, I think our performance yesterday is exactly how we should play. Defend deep, and go hard with pace at the opposition. We should reduce our sideways passing and shoot at goal like we did yesterday.

I like the team selection, let's use it in the EPL. Giroud and Walcot have no business being in the starting 11 right now and Iwobi I think will be a very good player in future

Well done to Elneney, stand out performer for me. I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger drops him in the next match for shooting from that range rather than passing :)

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17 Mar 2016 07:49:46
Have to agree with most of that, I'm not to sure why Gabriel is being critisised, not by you, defensively I thought he did well, others were equally guilty of losing or giving away possession, Coquelin and Kos, surprisingly and Giroud and Walcott unsurprisingly.

When you think Walcott is 27 it's incredible that he hasn't really improved one iota since he burst onto the scene 10 years ago. What he did then he can do now and that's it.

I Like Iwobi, still not a fan of Welbeck and it shows how bad are striking options are when he is currently the most threatening one whilst even managing to fall over his own feet for that first effort. Guess that's why he got the nick name of Bambi on Ice at United.

I live in hope that Wenger cannot of had a more perfect example of what a difference a top drawer striker would make to this team. Albeit that it may be to late for him personally to change that.

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17 Mar 2016 08:59:05
Stoner, Welbeck is only 23 years and he's doing well especially having been sidelined for months only to return with impressive performances. He looks hungry as a striker and i bet if he's to better his finishing, he'll be a great weapon as he has all the attritubes of a world class striker.

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17 Mar 2016 09:16:16
Wenger had an opportunity to sign Suarez and yet he pulled out in a cunning way. He's the perfect complete striker for me. He makes scoring looks easy and fun. Bad we missed out on such a player under our noses.

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17 Mar 2016 10:08:16
I know willy and maybe if he gets a run up front in all the remaining games he'll show some of us we've under rated him.

I'll be the first to eat some humble pie. :-)

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17 Mar 2016 16:49:38
Willy welbeck never will be world class. The next manager sells him. He needs to be starting for a lesser team.

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17 Mar 2016 05:05:10
Huge match on Saturday, we must put in a performance and win. Last night I thought Elneny was our best player and had an excellent match. I don't wish any player an injury, but thankfully the woeful Flamini had to go off. It is embarrassing when such an inept player is still selected to play.
I would like to see us sign Wanyama next season, so we have three players for the two defensive midfield positions,

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