Arsenal Banter Archive May 19 2014

19 May 2014 22:41:13
"For my progress and my visibility, it would be better to play for a club who play in the Champions League, " he told reporters.

"I know there is a lot of speculation, but I still have three years on my contract, it does not depend on me. We'll see in the coming weeks." - Morgan Schneiderlain.

Surley he won't have said this unless he wants a move? Come on Arsene, as the great hall & oats once said, Make my dreams come true.

Am I missing something here? Why all the hype over him? He been good all season, but hasn't stood out, we need world class not good players.

Good player but we need a beast in there and he ain't that.

If he is that good he should be a regular in the France National squad by now

Look up the word 'potential' in the dictionary.

Also, last season he scored 6 and had 6 assists.
He had more shots on goal than all his team mates, bar the striker.
he has a great engine, can run all day and is a solid defender

Forgot to mention., he made la ligue team of the season.
would love him at Arsenal.

DAGS

He is 24, why is he only on standby for the French squad

Mate you do big these payers up, we don't need to be looking at players who can't get into their respective national sides

Looking at it objectively BG, do players always get picked for their national sides on merit alone?

Banbury mate,

You also have to look at the players in front of him at International level, which in this case is Sagna, hence why Aurier is not first choice France right back.

Aurier is his automatic replacement, at club level, hopefully Arsenal, than International level.

Zinedane Zidane made his international debut at 22, by your reckoning, that's old, also by your reckoning that mean's you think he is crap?

Making your international debut at 24 doesn't mean you are crap, it means that quite possibly, there has been an established and experienced player in front of you.

Pat Vieira made his debut at 21. Does that make him crap?.

They compared statistics with some of the major right backs in the world, Aurier, Zabaleta, Philip Lahm, Seamus Coleman, Sagna, Ivanovic and Danny Alves.

Aurier came out top on every statistic, eg, interceptions, blocks, clearances, last man-tackles, assists, defences errors and athleticism.

I would take him any day mate, even if he is not a long established international.

Sorry,

I completely messed that post up.

Because Aurier plays for Toulouse i'm thinking he's French, he's not, he play's for Ivory Coast.

My mistake.

Again I have to agree with DAGS here, we have world class players already, adding a Remy here a Schneiderlin there will allow the Ozils, Walcotts and Ramsay's to shine brighter - the future is great we don't need to replace half the team with World Cup all stars…

Absolutely Rooster,

Giroud never got a France cap before he came to Arsenal Neither did Nasri or Kos! I am sure he would be a at least in the squad next season for France if he was a gooner.

Dags def of potential. Possible as opposed to actual.

19 May 2014 21:01:17
I think Arteta has a year left and will be great to have on the bench. I think we will sign a young Dm to gradually take over from him.

I think Wenger still has a dream that he can play Jack, Rambo and Diaby in the middle.

I think we have to sign a striker, I quite like Sanogo in terms of presence, but he just needs to calm down a bit and think before his final ball or shot.

Bit worried that Jenko won't make it, would like him to.

Unless we buy a top quality RB I'd like Jenks to be given a chance, this time last year Rambo wasn't good enough for us, now a year on Bayern head the list of clubs waiting for the slightest encouragement to make a bid for him

I hope we don't sign aurier, the last thing we want is two in experienced right backs. Sign a quality top rb for him to learn off, or not at all for me.

I think we need to face facts about Rambo, unless we get back to lifting the PL soon, eventually he will be off to bigger and better things .

Steve, Clubs around Europe rate Aurier Highly, even made the ligue 1 team of the season, and has impressive attack and defensive stats, why would you discard him?

Sagna is gone, let's face it. got his pay cheque and good luck to him, but its not like he had a season where he blew away the opposition, infact he was liable for quite a few of our defensive lapses, same can be said of gibbs and monreal too.

I Expect us to sign Aurier, and a DM before the world cup starts, provisionally I mean, as the window does not open till July.

Lakerville, i'm thinking arsenal not other teams, do we need 2 inexperienced premier league right backs. i'm sure he is very good but why gamble and wait for him to bed in. If jenko is good enough, then play him, if not get experience. Buy potential where you have cover not where there isn't any.

Lakerville, I would sell monreal and get cole, purely for the same reason. i'm thinking arsenal again not sentiment. i'd take cole back tomorrow. Experienced lb and rb would help us no end. Monreal is not reliable and gibbs is in and out.

But steve that would possibly sew disharmony in the squad.

santi and areta would lose a spanish compatriot and we would gain a player who arsenal fans generally 'dislike' including those in the squad i.e jenko

Goonerlink, he was singing xmas carols at the arsenal party with jenko.

19 May 2014 20:12:11
Judging by the reactions of the players after the cup final and the bus parade. Vermaelen and Podolski are definatly staying. But Sagna and Fabianski are off.

So we need:

1.) GK - i'd go for a better goalie to keep Szeszncy on his toes. Maybe keep Viviano? Would love to see Frazier Forster of Celtic.

2.) RB - Preferably a younger player who can cover CB aswell. Serge Aurier or Micah Richards would be perfect. Piszcech of Dortmund would be amazing.

3.) CB - Keep Vermaelen as a great 3rd choice. Bring in a young guy with high potential. De Vrij or Martins Indi two great young Dutch CBs. Think both would be fairly cheap.

4.) CDM/CM - Think its time for Diaby and Arteta to move on. I dream of Gundogan, Pogba or Khedira. But would settle for Lars Bender or Schnierdlin. Both are good tacklers and can play out. Gareth Barry no no no.

5.) ST - Benzema would be amazing. Feel Yilmaz of Galatassaray has been overlooked - Strong, quick and good finisher. Remy or Morata would be good aswell.

So we could make a title winning squad with 5 signings that would cost less than £100m and isn't too unrealistic.

Forster - £12m
Aurier - £10m
De Vrij - £8m
L. Bender - £25m
Benzema - £35m

I can still see both Vermaelen and Podolski leaving.

We must add pace up top or it'll be more of the same next year.

Completely agree Detroit, that would be pretty much perfect in my opinion. I think experience would be better in RB as we also have Jenkinson and Bellerin. As you say, Piszek (spelling?) would be a dream signing.

G95 I see what you mean but I really think we should be keeping Vermaelen and Podolski. Verm is a top-class stand-in, Poldi is the best natural goalscorer at the club and is very dangerous. We need to add to our squad not replace players. I hope they don't leave.

19 May 2014 17:02:51
Who is this Immobile striker we're going to sign? As far as I can see we've already got two!

19 May 2014 15:57:15
Arsenal. Arsenal. Arsenal. Once he's signed his three-year deal worth £24m, the club's Arsène Wenger will embark on the mother of all summer trolley-dashes in a bid to consolidate next season's tilt for fourth place in the Premier League and a second-round Champions League exit.

That comment was from a well known and respected newspaper . Why does it feel like every time I read an article about our club there is always a little dig in the form of a sarcastic comment or just plain bitterness . Is there an agenda with these quote " journalists " that I'm unaware of? Is anyone else fed up with the constant negative spin put on our results and club as a whole . I would like to know people's opinion on this, and what do you think eds'?

{Ed007's Note - Don't pay any attention newspapers.}

Well known, yes. Respected, I think not!

People are very protective of their own club, I would say that goes for most supporters of football clubs, and don't see or can't see why commentators and writers write some of what they do. But rightly or wrongly people with no apparent axe to grind, see the problems and because it sells papers etc add a bit of poetic licence, or exaggeration. Plus it is a free country and they can write what they like and you can read what you like.

I understand what Steve.r is saying but in Ireland, some papers didn't even make the FA cup win the back page story.

And that isn't because it was second to any Irish sport story. I would understand that.

The highest selling Sunday red top ran a story of Suarez going to Benzema on the back page!

So many papers just have no time for us. And those that do, by in large have nothing but **** to say about us.

Even city get more coverage than Arsenal in Ireland even though they have no history of Irish suppourt in the country unlike Arsenal.

And it isn't even because they were on the title run this year either.

19 May 2014 14:27:49
I have just seen how old James Milner is, I assumed he was older than 28.

Anyway, I would definitely take him- experienced in the league and now Europe, very professional, hard trainer and can do the job in our midfield.

Perhaps he could give us a bit more mobility and bite in front of the back four. It would be interesting if we were able to sign him & Micah Richards, but I'm not sure whether City would sell to us. In addition City need to keep their 'homegrown' contingent, as they need them to boost their Premier League squad & they can only select 21 CL players, with, I think at least 8 homegrown players?

Thought he was 31 myself.

Would take him for £5m I suppose, would add depth that we lacked this year.

Would be grand to give Ramsey/Ozil/Cazorla a rest on the away trips with a well EXP prem player.

Although I think he wants first team footie.

Maybe if he wants the Arteta role but in that case we'd have better spent the other £95mil so well that we could overlook not sighting Bender or the ilk.

19 May 2014 12:03:21
Gaz baz is available on a free this summer apart from a 2 mil signing on fee. If the host of linked signing for DM don't come off, he may well be a solid addition. Sured up Evertons midfield last year a load. We could do a lot worse, freeing money up for sanchez, benzema etc.

We could also do a lot better.

If your a club with next to no money he's a bargain that will fill a gap temperately, if your a club with 100 mil? A bit like your boss giving you a £50 meal allowance and treating yourself to a supermarket sandwich that's been reduced due to being close to its use by date and handing your boss back the £49.10p change! he'd be pleased but slightly insulted and very confused

19 May 2014 08:29:53
I got so pie-eyed after the cup win that I had such a monumental hangover yesterday that I've taken it upon myself to quit smoking. Something tells me that I wouldn't be saying this if we didn't win on Saturday. Good times.

Wish me luck.

Channel I stopped 3 weeks ago after 12 years, I had a drag in pub when hull got there second.
It was like I tried to swallow sand paper.
Good luck mate.

{Ed007's Note - Good luck to you both, I would love to stop smoking.}

Thanks ed

Hey 007. Gave up after 20 years smoking by going to this Allen Carr (not Chatty man btw!) Easyway to give up smoking course.

Should give it a go, was the only thing that worked and was actually quite easy after that.

{Ed007's Note - Cheers, I'll look into that.}

4mnths in myself,

come on us gooners

19 May 2014 08:04:06
I think giroud is better in a 4-4-2. and that backheel was world class. what a week! still celebrating

I just think he missed the kick so it came off as a backheel, make no mistake it was a badly scuffed shot.

and while we did win the FA cup giroud is not the way forward as our primary forward.

Hey Lakerville. Giroud has been putting in class assists every month.

That was no fluke. He just only performs well when play in compressed to the final third.

LAKER

I don't get your anti Giroud, yet another assist for him, he has been very good for us without his goals we wouldn't have finished 4th, be grateful for what he has done, he is no Ronaldo, or Bale or Suarez but he never will be, but he has certainly contributed for us this season mate

Rooney, Van Persie, Aguero, Dzeko, Sturridge, Suarez all score the goals you'd expect them to and the ones you wouldn't, Giroud simply dosent, he wouldn't make my bench.

1404

Look at your post, you are naming pairs, Giroud was on his own

19 May 2014 06:13:37
You got to ask yourself, would any other top team in the prem open top bus parade a fa cup? I let you figure out the answer

How could they, there is only one winner each year and that is US

LOL

Pinky just bought that comment for £50m. Yes, it's pretty ineffective, but maybe it'll roll something over the line in a few years.

Pinky, you act as if Chavski have always been a big club. Until you lot got bought by the KGB there used to be a little saying "There's only three certainties in life: Death, Taxes and Chelsea being a dissapointment"

Now tell me something Porky. If you're so happy at the fact that your sugar daddy has bought you four FA cups in the time we've earned one, why do you feel the need to come on to the Arsenal site and troll us?

Bitter at winning absolute sod all this season are we?

Well, when you are a self-sufficient club it's a true celebration you see Pinky, because its down to the club as a whole - its more of a collective/community feeling. For me that's something worth valuing and celebrating.

As opposed to say having a rich benefactor who underwrites everything. Then you have one person to thank- your sugardaddy -fair enough, but its not quite the same is it?

In other words, we have an open top bus parade, because it means something to us and is valued.

But you have probably forgotten what that feels like. For e.g. in 97 and 2000 when you won the FA cup- guess what? You had an open top bus parade.

If chelsea won a trophy, the specialist in winning trophies would have booked london to show he is not a specialist in failure. wait what. he didn't win a trophy? surely not. but he's a specialist right?

18 May 2014 21:55:06
Eds or anyone in the know, do we expect interest in morota to be reignited this summer? We need a forward, but just can't see Wenger buying 4-5 first teamers. And with aurier, sanchez and sneiderlin all being touted around surely a cheaper younger forward is more likely from le prof?