Arsenal Banter Archive May 27 2013

 

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27 May 2013 23:02:44
It's funny the number of delusional United supporters on their page who actually believe Cesc would accept a transfer to Manchester.

Unbelievable.

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Your post would ring true if van Persie hadn't joined them last summer. Manchester United can get anyone they want pretty much. That's the reward for winning trophies

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Poster two, you are wrong.

United has substantial pull on players because of their prestige and history of winning (not unlike Bayern, Real, Milan and Barca); however, that does not mean they can get "any" player.

If arsenal fans are right, Cesc would not want to go to United. Cesc's logic was he left Arsenal to make it at his boyhood club Barcelona. I am sure it helped that at the time they were an all-conquering force; but he would have gone to Barca regardless at some point in his career.

All gooners, if begrudgingly accepted that Cesc should want to "return home" and most gooners accepted that he was always going to leave for Barca, even before the tapping up. He even gave up loyalty bonuses to push through the move.

So if Cesc were given the choice between fighting for a place at Barca and starting at United; he would stay and fight for his place at Barca, because it is important to him to make it at Barca and he does not care about Utd at all.

Arsenal fans hope that he would never play for United, but realistically, it is a non-issue unless he is told he has no future at Barca.

Lastly, I think United fans are missing something on their transfers this year. They have lost the best manager of all time and have replaced him with a coach who is continentally unknown and only moderately successful domestically, albeit on limited means. To expect Moyes to be able to have the same pull on players as Fergie is preposterous and in my mind the biggest risk that the Mancs took in appointing him instead of a Mourinho or other well known coach.

Should be an interesting year next year.

James R.
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James R, as much as I am a huge arsenal fan and despise everything united do, I completely disagree with you.

To call moyes 'moderately sucessful domestically' is an understatement.
he has had back to back finishes in the top 8 finishes for the past 7 years (6th, 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th, 7th, 6th) for a club like everton that's extremely successful. if you were an everton fan prior moyes you would have only wished for that level of consistency, especially considering his tenure has endured the takeovers of clubs fighting for the same positions as he was by billionaires (chelsea, man city) not to mention getting 4th and champions league in 04/05 for a 'mid-table club' in todays terms that would be the same as norwich west ham fulham or swansea getting champions league spot next year. is that not successful?

secondly to say he is not continentally known is completely wrong.
celtic shown an interest 3 seasons ago, he was tipped for chelsea in january for when rafa's short term stay ran its course, was one of the favourites to succeed tottenham last season, also was touted for liverpool prior brenden rodgers, malaga approched him before appointing pelligrini, valencia tried to get him to jump ship some 5 seasons ago and even internationally known, as a mega rich chinese club (guizhou renhe) tried to pull him away from everton just last season that's excluding interest from aston villa, newcastle and a host of bundesliga clubs early in his everton career. the only reason he is rarely mentioned around Europe is he was never really expected to leave England or the Uk. but you don't get that much interest if your 'Unknown'

also you claim he has been on limited means. compared to what? the money chucking of chelsea and man city? yes maybe so, compared to Utd? Yeh but limited though? no. for a mid table club he has not been so 'limited' yes he has had restrictions, all clubs do, but to break the club transfer record 4 times shows his willingness to spend for the right player. he just does it in a more wenger style way just at everton he has less scrutiny, don't forget he managed to make signings such as cahill, arteta, lescott, fellaini, baines, yakubu, james beattie, andrew johnson, peinaar, louis saha, phil jagielka, phil neville, distin, howard, all on a budget, many of these increasing their values tremendously, Arteta sold for 10mil (5 times his price) Cahill sold after 9 years for roughly the same amount, Jagielka nearly joined arsenal for 10mil last season (purchased for only 4mil) lescott probably his best signing in terms of value (bought for £2mil sold for £22mil)
he also sold rooney for 25.6mil for an 18 year old. he old recouped 4mil of the 6mil he spent on a disappointing james beattie, but he looks set to make profits beyond his tenure as fellaini and baines will both have increased in value, baines will no doubt double the money he cost (cost £6mil, will cost now £14-15mil) fellaini will easily cost a club 20-25mil, which is more than his £15million purchase fee.

also on that note fellaini is equal to the record arsenal purchase prior cazorla so limited?

but mostly you are wrong on your point claiming moyes won't have the same pull on players as fergie. the thing is in managing terms they are as close to compatible as you will get the are both exceptional disciplinarians and that's shown for moyes by how well he has kept star players year after year when they are linked with transfers to much bigger clubs.

to me he was the perfect choice for united, not jose, he would have came and gone in 2 seasons, moyes will be there for years to come. and the only reason I dislike moyes joining man ute is how much I rate him as a world class manager and how seamless the fergie-moyes transition will be, as I was hoping it would be a tornado ride for united once fergie left. from one manager to the next

now they will have moyes for at least 10 years I believe.

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I believe United are actually interested in Thiago and not Cesc. Both obviously play for the same side, same position (pretty much) and they share the same agency so it is possible that journalists are looking at the wrong player and it's actually Thiago that United want.

However I would be very surprised to see Arsenal buy Cesc back as he will cost more than the £16m Arsene Wenger limit. If Cesc was ready to move on from Barcelona there would be many interested clubs around Europe. Clubs with interest would no doubt be Chelsea, City & United.

Sydney!

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Indeed Sydney. It's very important to remember that whilst arsenal are able to sell world class players like cesc, they are not able to buy them.

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28 May 2013 17:42:11
so what does shinji do? become a sub for life?

this is just bs. look up cesc on twitter and he's having a ball at barcelona. his departure is fabricated beyond reality.

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27 May 2013 21:39:25
one fairly good player in each of the main positions will do me
gk. begovic 7-9 mil
cb. williams 6-8 mil
cdm. capoue 8-10 mil
cf. remy 7-9 mil

the prices shown are the most I would pay, these are not the superstars we want but all good players who would only get better in our setup. we need to be realistic about who we can attract and realistic about the way we spend.

get rid of the obvious deadwood if possible and keep sagna and TV5, promote eisfield to the 1st team and gradually give less playing time to the ageing stars like arteta and rosicky.

to me with these signings we would have great strength and dept. and be able to rest key players over busy periods like xmas and cup games. our strength this yr will be the fact our squad and manger are settled and we'll kick off from the start. I think we'll do the double in 13/14 season. prem league and the league cup. up the gooners

irish col

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We have a lot of fairly good players already. Certainly for attacking players we should be aiming higher than Remy, but I'd take Capoue and Begovic.

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27 May 2013 20:50:13
anyone fancy mario gomez not been mentioned could be worth a punt guy scores goals for fun

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He's not my type

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Gomez is clumsy

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Gomez looks like a complete donkey everytime I see him but he does seem to pop up with loads of goals so obviously not so useless. However, I think the risk would be he came in and was a donkey but didn't get the goals anymore. Therefore too risky in my opinion.

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He's btr then giroud

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Prefer aubeaymang, does more for the team.

Bergkamp5353

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27 May 2013 20:34:09
Will Assanal be in the Europa League if they fail to win the Champions League play-offs?
Bas!cs

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Do you think you're clever spelling our Arsenal like that? And I wouldn't get your hopes up Chelski fan, we'll be in the Champion's League with you next season.

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28 May 2013 11:36:51
yes

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Yes if arsenal lose the champs league play-offs (unlikely) they will end up in europa league with the spuds, sorry I mean spurs, you know the ones who finished below arsenal, AGAIN!

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27 May 2013 20:32:27
any chance of a return of Fabregas?

KAY9

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Not this season mate but I would say definitely within the next 5 years

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Nope, maybe in the future.

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27 May 2013 20:12:18
Higuain - going to Juventus
Jovetic - wants to stay in Italy
Bony - not good enough for us - 30 odd goals in Holland is something even Chamakh would manage
Rooney - don't be silly
Soldado - will stay loyal to Valencia and will probably finish his career there
Villa - quality, but too old and will end up with the Spuds

That leaves Lewandowski. ;)

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Lewondowski - going bayern

That leaves?

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By the same logic you used in your post you could easily say: "Lewandowski to Bayern"

In fact, that looks more a sure thing than Higuain to Juve

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The same lees dowse who's agent said this morning is joining bayern Munich by any chance? Unlucky fella better luck next time.

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I'm pretty sure there are more strikers in the world than those mentioned.

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Tell it to suarez who never scored 30 goals in a season in the dutch league

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27 May 2013 20:01:01
Hello all,
all is there anything solid about our interest in Clement Grenier from Lyon?
saw him take an awesome free-kick against lille but that's about it.
Is the interest confirmed?
Steve

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Wenger admitted interest. What more could you want?

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27 May 2013 19:48:13
Losing Vermaelen would be a massive error. He had a bad season last one yes. It did however come after a season off with injury. He now has a season back under his belt, and let's not forget the player he was before injury. If he is fit and in form, I think he is still our best defender. We need to build him and his confidence up get his decision making back and trust me we have one of the top 5 CB's in the world again. There's a reason he isn't short off suitors if he goes.

Right TV5 off at our peril

Holmesy

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Right on holmesy. people should remeber the nightmare period that Koscielny had last year and he has come back like superman! Thomas Vermaelon is a class player. he will come back better than ever.

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I wouldn't want to see him go, something's not right though and it's more than just form think something else, abbé the problem.
Whatever it is I hope it's resolved soon and he gets back to being a beast

1404

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Although Mert had a good season I still think TV and Kos is our best partnership. I'd stick with Kos and Mert though until injuries or form dictate otherwise and then see what TV is made of.

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27 May 2013 19:46:33
Ed over the past few weeks we've been linked with a lot of young french players or players from ligue 1, Cabella, Gonalons, Grenier, Pogba and before that Belhanda, Corchia etc. As someone who doesn't get to see a lot of french football, I was wondering how good are these players? Which of them would you most like to see at Arsenal? And which do you see as most likely to join? I apologise if I missed any players out our if this type of thing has been asked before. {Ed027's Note - I don't really follow French football that much to know

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Grenier is meant to be the new nasri but without the attitude, gonalons is a up and coming CDM for france, cabella has a 60mil price tage put on him by montpellier manager but if wenger wants him he will get him for way way cheaper because montpellier said they wanted 50mil for giroud and we didn't even pay half that. pogba is the next viera and united were gutted when they lost him to juventus. as for belhanda I've heard he is good but don't know much about him, he was in the montpellier squad that won the french ligue 1 last season

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27 May 2013 19:29:12
Rather than Jovetic, I hope our real target is Lamela

Cross between Pastore and Lavezzi, he will be the next big thing in the Serie A

Jovetic's play tailed off big time this year. I'm not sure he's worth 25m pounds. Think Ljajic was better this year. Would rather have Borja if we talking Fiorentina

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27 May 2013 18:43:17
Hey soccer fans. Arsenal Wenger is plotting a major psychological transfer of his time which will not only bring Man united, Man city and Chelsea but will bring the likes of Barcelona, Beryern and real madrid to their knees. Inspired by defeating European champions at their home ground, Arsenal have not lost any game since then and intends not to lose any game in the near future. This is the time he was waiting for while others bought players, he kept his money. He has more money than what he is revealing for transfer.

How will this be possible? Watch his (manager Arsene Wengers) transfers. He is one of the greatest coaches in Europe and he will do it. He is preparing for a major upset in European soccer.

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Not sure if serious or not

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27 May 2013 19:42:07
Holy 5h1t,

That is a brammer of a post, I'm ranking it in my top 5.

Stoner

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That's a pretty bold statement to make without signing off or stating your source. You must be a spud
Paul V

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You should narrate TV sci fi shows, you scared me whilst keeping me strangely wanting to read more

Paul

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I agree with everything in your post.
i think this window we will blow every other club out the window.

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Damn that sounds amazing! Wish it was true

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*cough* IT'S FOOTBALL! *cough*

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No info. no links. no substance. blah, blah, blah. If you have info. share it, don't be vague.

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You lost me at 'soccer'

AJH

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Grow up!

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That's just a perfect lie that every Arsenal fan wants to hear.

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You had me at

"Psychological transfer of his time"

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Surely the un-named wunderposter is drunk. What a riveting string of nonsense and excitement. For those of you giving him/her stick for "soccer" I do ask that you keep in mind that even the English occasionally called it soccer until the mid 70s when the US started pretending to take the sport seriously. Would a rose by any other name not smell as sweet? Calm down.

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Steve Bould is to be replaced by Derren Brown

John Player Special

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The only 'psychological transfer' that will shock Europe is messi or Ronaldo, so bs

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27 May 2013 18:26:50
What are the chances that Cesc Fabregas could now return to Arsenal since the purchase of Neymar Barcelona may be looking to offload a couple of players?

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Cesc loves Arsenal and he knows that he is loved and is sure of regular playing under Arsenal wenger. The chances may be 99% because at one time Alex song also echoed the same statements.

Remember Arsenal are about to make a psychological transfer which will impact other clubs not only in England but in Europe as well.

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Neymar will most likely be deployed on the wing at Barca.

However, he could also play the false st role, which has been frequently occupied by cesc.

If Neymar ends up stealing game time from Fabregas than he would definitely consider his options.

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I can't see us signing both, we have enough players in that area. Plus, unless we added some serious money to that, that deal is never going to happen.

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With our first psychological transfer I'm guessing we sign M. Night Shyamalan

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28 May 2013 09:37:51
Lol @ US gooner.

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27 May 2013 18:12:56
Apparently arsenal and Lyon are almost in an agreement for a swap deal including gevinho and coqulin for Clement and gourcuff.

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I doubt Gourcuff but Grenier and Gonalons are plausible.

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I wouldn't mind gourcuff but clement don't know him, how about sagna, gervinho and coguelin for gourcuff, grenier and gonalons

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27 May 2013 17:26:00
Does anyone think Zlatan Ibrohemovic could be on his way to the Premiere league?
He has played just about everywhere else but in England and Germany, I doubt he and Pep will reunite at Bayern, Milan have Balotelli and Inter have been terrible of late.

If he leaves PSG which is rumoured to be true, then I would not be surprised to see him in the prem, but where though? City and Chelsea are reportedly after Cavani or Lewandowski, United are too after the Pole and already have RVP.

Could we be in for him? The guy has what we are looking for, the presence, mentality and leadership.
Where else could he go?

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We can't afford his wages.

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Monaco

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Think about the wages, he's not coming to arsenal. He may go to some rich asian club or Anzi but not arsenal.

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Mentality?. well, he is mental, but I doubt that's what we need. Great player tho, but I can't see it happen.

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27 May 2013 20:07:05
i hope you are joking, you will never see zlatan playing for arsenal.

Trinidad-Gooner

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By that I meant he has the winning menality we lack, he has won titles and top scored in so many teams including Juve, Inter and PsG

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Zlatan still resents Wenger having the temerity to ask him to 'trial' back in his formative years. Much as I would wish for the opposite he will never wear an Arsenal shirt.

CECEGUaW

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Hes won a trophy at every team he has been at, unless arsenal prove they will win something if he joins he won't come, hopefully we buy some class players and would love to see zlatan at arsenal. only thing is he isn't permanent as he will come for 1-2 seasons and then leave to win a trophy in a league he hasn't played in yet.

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27 May 2013 16:45:19
The arsenal ladies team should pay a visit to the men's first team and give them some advice on how to be winners. A bit of coaching on mental strength as well whilst their at it.

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As you said, its narrow. Very rarely do teams without good wingers win much.
Think of when we were successful with players like Pires and Ljunberg. Bayern now with Robben and Ribery. Admittedly Barcelona do it relatively effectively, but even they stick Pedro/Sanchez out wide or have Villa drift off to the left, and can't forget they have Messi.
The english core is a cool idea if the players are good enough, Walcott and Ox on wings with a striker because Theo still hasn't proven he can play down the middle, plus Rambo still hasn't proven to me he can compete at the highest of levels.

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27 May 2013 16:23:07
I've decided to not listen to transfer rumours because if we are linked to a player nine times out of ten we don't get him. Anyway I've been thinking about the British core and in a few years how I would love to see them all in the first team but is was very difficult to find a sensible way of doing it the only formation that worked is a narrow
4-1-2-1-2:



GK

Jenks CB. CB. Gibbs


CDM
Rambo Jack

Ox

St. Theo


Thoughts fellow gooners?



SM1996

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Can't leave cazorla out dude

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Team would be very narrow and easy to close down

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I'm talking bout 3 or 4 years by the way!



SM1996

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It also works with our current formation. Theo RW, Jack CAM, and Ox LW with Rambo CDM.

As an aside, are there any more young Brits you'd like to see at Arsenal? I can't think of many - Phil Jones?

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27 May 2013 16:18:23
Eds and posters interested on your opinions. I am sceptical about the amount of money being touted about that is available to spend and that comments that have come out from the club indicating that we are going to spend are only to keep the fans at bay yet again.

My reasons for this are as follows:
1. ) We have never spent big amounts on one single player so why now.
2. ) All the best forwards / players are being snapped up on pre contracts etc. so why haven't we done it.
3. ) We will NOT break our pay structure despite some reports.
4. ) Why would we sell RVP one year and spend the same amount on a similar player the next. From a financial perspective based on the clubs position something does not ring through when you are sitting on £100m + in the bank. To say that in the space of 9 months our financial position has changed to such an extent that we can spend and bring in marquee signings does not quite make sense.
5. ) We have Gazidis who could not negotiate his way out of a paper bag.

To use an example, Lewandowski in my opinion a class player, would fit in perfectly with our system, lethal in front of goal in and around the penalty area. Why would we not pull out all the stops and go for him and sign him on a pre contract as so many have done. Yet today we hear he is going to Bayern an opportunity lost in my opinion.

No doubt we will be told we were in for players like Lewandowski but missed out again and sign some young promising unknown and be spun another yarn that we are rebuilding. Haven't we being doing that for the past 8 years.

Whilst I know it is the Arsenal way to keep things quiet surely if we have a player signed on a pre contract they would announce it. (As rumoured by many that Capoue has done with us)

On reading this back I hate sounding so negative but when you see players like Goetze, lewandowski etc disappear off the radar on pre contracts it makes you wonder what we are doing. I sincerely hope I am wrong and we sign some great players.

I am not a regular poster but love the site and always check in daily to see what is going on. Eds you do a massive job and thanks for all the input Ed002 please come back

Paul V

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The only player I can think of on a pre contract is Gotze, and that was more of a release clause scenario.

Arsenal certainly have more to spend now due to the now manageable debt situation and the fact we have been turning healthy profits on player transfers, match day ticket sales etc etc.

I agree we won't break our wage structure (ie no Rooney, which is fine with me).

I'm sure Arsenal are preparing several big transfers. I just don't think a CF will be one of them.

I think Wenger, like myself, has massive belief in Giroud, and anyone who comes in would have to be an understudy (Sanogo) or a world beater (Higuain). Jovetic in my mind isn't a CF, more of an attacking midfielder, sitting behind the striker.

The real areas we need to strengthen are the center of midfield and we have a plethora of options. Wanyama, Capoue, Gonalons, Kondogbia, Pogba etc etc.

If we can manage: Mignolet, Ashley Williams, Pogba (really and truly the next Viera in my eyes) or Gonalons/Capoue then already we are in much better shape.

If Sagna leaves I hope we grab a rb (Piszczek for me).

These are the types of transfers we can manage, but someone like Higuain would still be a stretch.

Sorry for the long post. Cheers.

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Every year we get the same drivel from the club, and every year people fall for it. Of course they say they're going to spend while membership renewals are open - and as usual once that's done we are told "we are trying but nobody is available" the only way there will be significant investment is if silent stan cashes in and leaves.

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Firstly on your Lewandowski point even if we went in for him as a player where would you go? The fourth best team in England or the top team in Germany, current CL champions, and the most dominant team on the planet right now? Players have a choice and between us and Bayern right we lose to Bayern every time.

As for Gazidis being unable to negotiate who do you think is doing the negotiations on all these new commercial and sponsorship deals that are bringing in the extra money now available to spend on players.

We have to be realistic at present we are not a top European team, we don't offer massive contracts so if the likes of Juve, Bayern, PSG etc go against us for players, chances are we will lose out. We need to look for the next big player, the one who is on top clubs radar but not a priority. Then try and pick a world class performer who is looking for new challenge.

Holmesy

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Holmesy basically what you are saying that you agree we will not spend the money as I outlined by not going for the likes of Lewandowski or any other world class player. The fact that we are not even in the mix for these sort of players do you not think we need to be convincing these sort of players to come to Arsenal and isn't this what Gazidis should be doing showing the ambition of the club and that we will win trophies.

In relation to Gazidis how long has it taken to get these deals in place. They are long overdue.

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27 May 2013 15:27:13
how possible is it for arsenal to sign paul pogba and is there any interest from arsenal

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I had never heard of Crowley before you mentioned him, found a good article by Metro newspaper about him. Sounds like a player with a lot of potential, suited to our way of play, not a bad signing.

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27 May 2013 15:42:33
Arsenal will confirm the signings of Sanogo and Daniel Crowley this week.

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27 May 2013 15:38:25
Hey Edds,

Is there any interest in Oscar Cardozo. It seems he's getting rather frustrated at Benfica and I can't imagine he would cost alot. Could be a good signing.

Cheers

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27 May 2013 14:51:50
Who would you guys like to see make the move the the Emirates this summer? For me, it goes something like this:

Ruffier- This guy is apparently a target of ours, and Szczesny needs some competition. And he's French, what isn't to like.

Lovren- Good center back and could provide good cover for Mertesacker and Koscielny, along with TV5, who should not leave. Plus, he plays in France, my kind of player!

Pogba/Capoue- Both decent defensive midfielders, Pogba is dubbed as the new Viera, who we are yet to replace. And Capoue could also do the job. And the best part, they're both French.

Grenier- According to Wenger, this guy reminds him of Nasri, who we have not replaced. And he's young, so Wenger can work his magic and turn him into a beast. He is also French, which can't be bad.

Sanogo- According to many reports, the guy has already signed. Reports also indicate that Yaya Sanogo is indeed, French.

Jovetic- We need a top class striker, and I believe Jovetic is exactly that. Reminds me of Suarez, but without the cannibalism and racism. He isn't French, so signing him would be a HUGE risk.

In all seriousness, these are the players that I believe would improve our team greatly, and could possibly put us on the path to silverware.

This is just my opinion, but I'd like to know who you guys want to sign for us this summer. Ed included.

Cheers! {Ed027's Note - Begovic, Williams, Wanyama/Gonalons, Jovetic. If Sagna leaves i'd like Pischeck, and a marquee signing after all that would be someone like Di Maria/Robben/Lamela. Wenger can also bring in Sanogo, Grenier etc.

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Ted I have gone with a mix of heart over head and head over heart.

For GK, I'd like Mignolet. Heart's choice. Head says Begovic or someone like Adler or Ruffier. Mignolet for me.

CB - head's choice - Williams. To watch, he's one of the best in the league. Statistically, he's one of the top 5 in the league. Would be just the sort of intelligent signing this club needs to make - not some flash guy from oversees. Someone who's seen it and done it this league and won silverware. Signings like this are what keeps Man U winning things.

DM - heart says someone like Wanyama but head says Gonalons - statistically he wipes the floor with most DMs in the world including the Benders and again when it comes to needing someone to come in and 'do a job' rather than 'change a game', stats are very important. He makes more tackles, interceptions, clearances, headers and covers more ground than most mids in Europe.

Grenier - French wonderkid, amazing how so few people really knew about him until now, including me. IMO if we sign any mids over and above a DM that will be a bonus so if we sign this guy then great. Otherwise go all out on Isco-level signing. Hamsik/Lavezzi.

Striker - Higuain. The most clinical striker in the world behind Messi and Falcao. Fact. Consistently bangs in over 20 goals season after season and is only about £20m in cost, and is only 25.

A right back if Sagna leaves - Abate for me. He's being usurped by Milan's new RB. Would be amazing for Jenko to learn from and share with for a season.

Remy if Gervinho leaves, or Aubameyang.

My starting team would be something like:

Mignolet
RB Mert Kos Gibbs
Gonalons
Theo, Santi, Wilshere
Higuain, Podolski

More defensively or away from home it could be:

Mignolet
RB Mert Kos Gibbs
Gonalons, Ramsey
Theo, Santi, Arteta
Giroud/Higuain

The point is we'd have players of Wilshere and Arteta's calibre on the bench as well as starting. We'd have multiple options all over the park.

Players like Remy could start against mid teams just like Chicarito and Welbeck do for Man U.

Rotation rotation rotation.

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Your right Ed027, sango/grenier to be added on at the END of a transfer spree, would be fine. However, sanogo/grenier are going to be the sum of our spending in my mind.

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27 May 2013 16:00:19
Now the season is over arsenal are linked with every player on this planet, it's a different player everyday, I to am intrigued, wenger has according to several sources 70m to spend yet that would mean nothing if he continues his loyalty to players who have not performed this season, 8 years without a trophy says it all arsenal need players who are winners and who play for medals not fourth place year in year out I do hope by the start of next season wenger invests in some top quality winners and names not a wholeheap of unknown's 20 somethings I can't wait for the transfer window to open and see and read that wenger means business it's a long time the street of Islington have seen a celebration

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I don't care what the names are as long as the signing are effective

We could sign benzema for 30m and he'd flop

Then we could sign some one like michu for 2m and he scores 20odd goals

For me I'm not to fused if the players are world class signings as long as as they are good players that help us push on for the league
Dandan

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Not sure about remy as the charges of rape against him havnt been soughted out yet. we don't want a potential rapist on our team do we?

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27 May 2013 20:06:04
To be honest I do not understand some of the comments that go on this site from fans.

Ganalons - People are saying they want Wanyama because he is a beast but don't want some of these French young talents.

If any of the people shouting for Wanyama but questioning Goanlons spent any time researching these players you would be putting cash in to buy some of these "Young French Talents" that had not done anything yet.

Gonalons has probably the best stats in Europe as a DM. He has a brain accutely accurate seemingly for positional and tactical decisions, he is strong, motivated, has beautiful feet.

Grenier, one word AWESOME. People say he is like Nasri, I can see that. But does anyone else see a bit of Zidane in him? The way he slopes the shoulder and then shifts his body with the ball to give himself the time and options he is looking for? I think this kid is very good.

Sanogo, Yes everyone knows that he has had a terrible injury record, but then look at how he plays when he is fit? Just what we need! Benteke is a mercenary when it comes to contracts, but Sanogo really wants to play for us? Oh, and he broke T Henrys U16 scoring record, so he must be crap huh? If we can't have Lukaku (who I would LOVE to have at Arsenal) then lest get someone that might be our version? Oh, and if you watch the videos of Sanogo, looks like cross between TH14 and Eto'o, and that would not be a bad thing.

The question of why buy these players (if we can get them and God I hope we do) now is fairly simple.

The U21 tournament is coming up, and these guys could do something quite impressive in the tournament.

If they do, you think PSG, Man City, Chelsea, Monaco and anyone else is going to go after them?

We need to realise that some players could just be good, and Wenger has been good at spotting a number of them.

If we are in a position where we get to choose a DM from a list that includes Wanyama, Gonalons and Capoue, I for one am excited.

If we get Sanogo and another forward (maybe Jovetic) and Campbell a work permit, added to Giroud, Podolski (Post Op), again I for one would be really excited for next season. Add Higuan to that and things look very good.

Right back Pizcheck, has to be, if we can.

Bring Eisfeld up to the first team and Ruffier or Mingolet and people feel we have a crap squad? Not me. Roll on the season. And I am happy to pay £1400 for a season ticket and one for my son @£1400 (an he is only 4 months old) to ensure that he has a seat in 3 or 4 years time.

We won more points in the last 10 games than anyone in the EPL. We beat the winners of the Champions League, and let's be honest we had no real pace up front and no defensive engine in the middle!

Get Campbell, get Sanogo, get Grenier, get Gonalons AND Capoue (or Gundogan would be ok), get Theo playing upfront and on the wing.

All the big teams in the EPL are having new managers and we have money to spend, spend with wisdom, spend on skill and ability, not names and reputations.

We have a chance to get back to where we belong, and I think Wenger wants that to be true MORE than any of us.

I for one am excited!

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27 May 2013 14:44:25
My views on our mighty Arsenal:

We have a good back 5

Szs is good in a couple years will be amazing
Sag is good on his day but I prefer Jenkinson
BFG top class for a slow and less ajale player
Kos top class for a small guy.
Gibbs need I say.

Midfield 3

Ramsey is getting better defensively but his final 3rd is poor
Wilshere need I say
Arteta is good but we need better. Wanayma any1?

Why play Caz out wide wtf? left flank left open 24/7 like a hoes house

I'd take out Arteta and play Ramsey cdm and Caz in cam.

Wing.

Theo and Ox these two on their day, no fullbacks can handle them

St

Giroud is good as a target man but I think we should play a poacer instead eg Jovetic and drill in crosses, not whip them in and loss the ball

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Giroud scored most of his goals by poaching.

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Kos is not small. Sagna you give him too much credit (thanks for your service bac, but times up I'm afraid)

Giroud is the definition of a poacher/target man. Jovetic is the opposite- he's an attacking midfielder who sits behind the striker and creates more than he scores. We have players like this in Caz, Rosicky (who I def want to keep) and Jacky boy.

Ox needs to show me more. Call it a sophomore slump, but I'm not convinced he's an out and out winger.

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27 May 2013 14:15:05
Well done Gunners for finishing fourth! I really would love to see some activity this transfer window. One thing I want to say to my fellow Gooners is during transfers, we should not have allegiance with players. If Giroud is to be sold to make space for someone like Lewandowski, then so be it. If we are to sell Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere to bring in experienced and world class players such as Bastian Schweinsteiger and Lars Bender, then I definitely do not see why not. Remember, we have not won anything for 8 years so if we are going to start seriously challenging for the big honours, then it's going to include some major decisions in the summer. I am happy we finished fourth don't get be wrong, but if I am to substitute one or two core players with better ones, then I don't see why not.

Vermalaen out--> Get Subotic
Ramsey & Diaby out -->Get Gonalons and Lars Bender
Gervinho out --> get Isco
Giroud out --> Get Higuain


don't think this will cost a lot of money, but our starting 11 will be well and truly fortified. Current squad finished fourth, need to improve the squad without a doubt so that we can get challenging again. if we retain the starting eleven that we had this season, then we should expect to be fighting for 4th again this year. every player I have listed above is better than his counterpart in our team so I don't see not.

Lets go you Gunners!

Nortongooner

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Go home, you're drunk.

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It makes no sense to sell Vermaelen, when will people realise this? We are the only top 6 club with 3 CBs. We need to keep him and coach him, he is a great player off the boil, not a poor player. Also we will not challenge for any honours with only 3 cbs.

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What is wrong with you why would you sell jack wilshere, in a couple of years he's going to be better than bastin

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Arsenal have spent too long looking at what could be, and not enough at what IS

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We get rid of giroud for higuain and then we only have chamack as back up. (and maybe bendter and park)

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Norton gooner, you call yourself a gooner yet would gladly sell the spine of our team.

Rambo AND JACK?! (you're mad)
Vermaelen, our captain? Got a little saying for you- "form is temporary, class is permanent"
Giroud has been fantastic for us considering it was his first year in England with a new club, new teammates etc.

This ain't FIFA13!

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27 May 2013 14:11:53
Other than Mignolet, I am currently not thrilled with the players we are linked with. Pogba, Grenier, Sanogo,. while all have potential, they are all big fish in very small ponds. Remember when we all got excited about Gervinho, Chamakh, etc. who were all coming off of great seasons in sub par leagues? I really hope we are not about to repeat past mistakes and sign players who can't adjust to the pace and physicality of the EPL. {Ed027's Note - Juve is a small pond?

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I wouldn't call Lyon a small pond either.

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Benzema came from lyon and a lot of people said he was a big fish in a small pond, plus grenier is starting over gourcuff who I would mind arsenal signing either.

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Pogba is, at 20, one of the best midfielders in Serie A. Do some homework.

The lad can tackle, pass, and score (from a distance)

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Neither Juve or Lyon are small ponds in and of themselves. but the leagues they play in are. Remember that Lille had just won the league when we got Gervinho, and look where that got us.

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Also, Grenier has displaced Gourcuff in the center of Lyons midfield.

Now I know Gourcuff is a shadow of his former self, but still for Grenier to come in and fill the role of a full international his impressive. He's got 60+ appearances for Lyon (a top, top side and def not a "small pond"), some of which were in the Champions league.

6'1 so not another diminutive midfielder, though a bit on the skinny side for the prem

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Pogba is a beast

I don't think there is any chance they sell, otherwise you can bet a lot of teams will line up to buy

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27 May 2013 14:05:36
Juventus turn their attentions to Carlos Tevez an have a deal in place for the Argentinian International despite not formally lodging a bid yet. Could this spell the end to their interest in Higuian after them having foun a more attainable target for cheaper. He would definitely be cheaper than Jovetic. Arsenal could have a run again at both of their striker targets again!

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27 May 2013 13:47:02
Everyone seems intent on purchasing a centre back. I'll admit, I was too, our defence looks to be the shakiest in the top 6/7 clubs.
But then I looked at the stats, we only conceded 37 goals, second only to the 34 goals conceded by Man City.
Also, the vast majority of those goals were conceded when Vermaelen was playing, with Mertesacker and Koscielny we looked solid.
So as for a team?
Szczesny is not good enough at stopping shots from outside of the box, proved by the number of free kicks we have conceded, he is hot headed and doesn't at all feel me with confidence.
Sagna has not been the same since his injuries, at his age it is unlikely he will recapture the form that made him so beloved to us the fans.
Arteta gives his all, he is incredibly calm on the ball, but not a good enough tackler and not fast enough to play the position we ask of him.
Podolski I feel has been a let down, either he doesn't put in 100% effort or is not at the level required, either way he should not be playing.
So my team.
Mignolet (Cesar is an option)

Piszczek
Koscielny
Mertesacker
Gibbs

Gonalons
Wilshere

Walcott
Cazorla
Sanchez (Jovetic)

Giroud (Higuain)

I feel if we did sign Sanchez, then Jovetic could not lead the line as we would need some height and presence upfront. I think Giroud still deserves a chance, and the 3 attacking players behind the striker are free to roam creating a very impressive attack. Of course Jovetic could play in the role vacated if Sanchez wasn't signed which I agree is unlikely.
Alternatively we could start Higuain upfront, he would be a great finisher for the chances created by the three behind him and my ideal first choice striker, I just don't see it happening.

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27 May 2013 11:23:21
Does anyone know how good Yaya Songo is?

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To me he's a strong and technical player, but with everything to prove yet.

Stan

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27 May 2013 10:21:44
You see Higuain's celebration after scoring today?

It was disgusting. It was a player so disrespected by his club that he stopped loving what he loved. Won them 2 Ligas first two years there and this is the thank you. Thanks for scoring every 60min or so on the pitch. ( his statistical scoring record is absurd compared to anyone not named Messi or Ronaldo)

We might not win trophies recently, but we will never have a player on our team that indifferent about what we do.

We have had some big players leave, and we are perpetually reminded of it. And guess what? They miss us. They miss this club.

You will never see a player hate our jersey because we made them hate it. Rather, as usual, they will never let us forget how good Arsenal was for them.

Proud to be

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Adebayor

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Nasri. Flamini. Van Persie (to some extent). Ashley cole.

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Jeez you are so overly emotional and extravagant with your posts.

How's about he didn't go crazy when he scored because 1) the result means nothing in terms of their league position, 2) it was handed to him on a plate, 3) it was away from home, 4) it was after a few minutes, with the whole game to play still, 5) it wasn't against Barca.

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So he didn't celebate maybe becuase the goal wasnt something worth celebrating for and to be honest who has respect for madrid they relied on the spanish government to get them out of debt by buying the stadium and giving it back to them for free, that money could have been used much better.

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27 May 2013 09:18:53
does any 1 else feel the same as I do about being linked with all these prospects.
for me the time has come for the to buy proven players.
we need players that are going to hit the ground running, these players will help the younger players improve. when you look at cesc coming through the ranks he had players like vierra, gilberto, bergkamp and henry to name a few around him.

the bong

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You are 100% correct Mr. Bong. Wenger. no more young French prospects. the club needs the `real deal`players that will compete now, and be happy to stay at Arsenal. not kids that take a couple of seasons to mature, then `bolt` whenever more money is put on the table before them.

The Walrus

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So things have gone well for Ade, Flamini and Nasri (minus last years trophy)

From focal points of our team they are now bit part players

They would totally do it differently if they could go back

Nasri went from being the next French number 10 to a pariah

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27 May 2013 18:52:07
@ the walrus: And what if the next messi is french? I agree with the bong, we need one or two proven players to improve the squad, AND we need to keep searching young talents, wherever they're from.

I'd say one proven GK (Cesar, Mignolet, etc. ), one young CB that shone in an other league (Zouma, Sakho) or one proven one if Vermaelen leaves (Williams, Howedes, N'Koulou), one young DM (Wanyama, Strootman), one young winger (Schürle, Draxler) and one proven striker (Higuain, Villa)
Now let's hope for the best but I feel the transfer market is going to be mad this season, and monaco's new status doesn't help. Football is turning crazy. Money makes them all crazy.

Stan

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27 May 2013 09:01:32
linked with clement grenier and R�my Cabella recently, are they the kind of quality we are looking for, or are they more of the giroud podolski, type of players, and just average?

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This is the kind of thing you could find our for yourself with the search function on google.

If you research Grenier, what you will find is that he has been on the most consistent and outstanding young French players to come through for a long time.

He has often been considered one of the best/most progressed players for his age group, at U17, 18, 19 and U21 level. He is quick, two-footed, skilful and is very good at free kicks.

He plays in the same position - right midfield or acm- as Nasri did, and is about the same age as Nasri was when we signed him. He is basically the next Nasri in terms of level of talent, style, and the way he has come through the ranks.

Nasri was a great signing. If we sign Grenier we should be excited.

Remy Cabella is slightly more senior but arguably has far less room for improvement than Grenier. Cabella has managed 7 goals and 9 assists in 37 games. Very similar to Nasri's stats but Nas was 2-3 years younger. He signed for us just before his 21st bday.

Grenier has 7 goals and 8 assists this season. Nasri had 7 goals and 14 assists.

Grenier could be a genius signing.

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Grenier is also taller and stronger then nasri which is a plus

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27 May 2013 03:34:50
Yaya songo is coming to arsenal

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Well done.

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