Arsenal Banter Archive June 06 2013

06 Jun 2013 23:44:32
Looks like we were right to back AW

We have always had a plan like any decent business and unfortunately we have had one hand tied behind our backs but now we are ready to compete

Bring on the trophies and great football AW and regain our rightful standing in world football

Come on you Gunners!

Great to hear Ivan clear up the past and take some uncalled for pressure off AW

SY4

06 Jun 2013 22:59:40
Will be very glad to have someone like Fellenni, so also a deadly striker from anywhere be it Pl or Italiian league, also tied sagna plus another defender and keeper. Then I think we are complete.

06 Jun 2013 22:42:00
Ed, have we activated Fellaini's release clause? Some reports are saying so
Thanks {Ed027's Note - Don't know

06 Jun 2013 22:20:25
Any news on fellaini? The times reporting we have activate his buyout?

06 Jun 2013 21:42:06
considering the chance of signing ferbrigas, roony, haguain, villa, we all know it slim judging from the recent arsenal transfer policy, and a 23mil turned down by fiorentina for jovitic, will arsenal fear the disappointing thought of selling rvp 20mill and buy jovitic 25mill

Van persie was sold for 24m not 20m and he is 29.

if we buy jovetic for 25m he's only 22 I think so there's time for him to develop.

06 Jun 2013 19:12:12
So is there any validity to the Usmanov takeover rumors?

Is this wishful thinking on our part or is this an actual possibility?

If on the cards, why not do it ASAP so Wenger can compete at the top of the transfer market price wise before top players are bought, like Cavani

I still have no belief that Kroenke is looking to sell. Financially, we are a gold mine. Anyone capable would line up to buy us. Usmanov's offer has to be 1. 5 on the pound minimum, which I think is worth it from a long-term financial viewpoint. Problem is Kroenke knows this

Anyone with knowledge, some input would be greatly appreciated

Sounds like Miss Arsenals' department. What ever happened to her. ? I've been away for a while.

06 Jun 2013 17:56:37
Rooney to arsenAl rumours seem to be gathering pace. Is there any truth in this happening or is it just agent talk. As a person i'm not a fan but as a player no true arsenal fN can deny would fill out van persie gap fantastically. Only year rooney was given top man striker role was year after ronaldo left and he scored 38. it about time we took a player from the other big 4. Whether he's liked or not hea englands number 9 for next 5years and would thrive with theo and ox. Any chances eds? {Ed027's Note - Long shot

06 Jun 2013 17:12:39
Worried how quiet Arsenal spending is espicially compared to Chelsea/City {Ed027's Note - Who have Chelsea signed?

Just because they've been linked with a lot of players doesn't mean they will sign them

Precisely ed last year we bought early and the sad thing is by the end people said we did no business. We really have to stop being fickle and at the end of the day it does not matter if the players came 6 days ago or if they come in 6 days or if they come 10 minutes before the window shuts so long as they come. Obviously it would be best for them to have time to bond with the squad etc. but you get my drift.

06 Jun 2013 13:12:08
Hi Ed,
We've been linked with strikers like Higuain, Jovetic and David Villa, but I would really like to see Mario Gomez coming to Arsenal. He's a sub in Munich, but he's shown that he's a world class goalscorer - for Germany too. I can't see why we're not linked with this guy. I'd rather have him than Higuain. What do you think?

GJV {Ed027's Note - No to Gomez, we have Giroud, there is no need, and thankfully we're not interested. he is similar to Giroud, also in missing a sh*t load of chances

06 Jun 2013 10:33:31
Any updates on Jovetic eds? It looks like he is definitely not going to juventus which probably leaves us and Chelsea if he is going to leave? {Ed027's Note - Fiorentina want the buy out clause, Arsenal don't

05 Jun 2013 23:13:48
reports claiming arsenal are aiming to have all their summer business done by the end of june. Ed's what are the chances of this, and are we close to securing any new signings other than yaya sanogo {Ed027's Note - False

06 Jun 2013 15:20:45
Wayne Rooney is a very good player. Every side in EPL would love to have him in their squad am sure. But considering his wages, I do not think it will be the right move. I also have a feeling that if he earns 250k a week, it will definitely de-motivate the other really good players in the team because he will be earning more than twice what our current highest earner is taking home. Instead, why not take the Higuain and Jovetic combination. Both are young, both are talented. Don’t think they are money mongers and would add some value to the team. I did some rough calculations, based on the figures being thrown around the rumour mill and I would definitely go for Higuain and Jovetic. In my calculations, I was assuming that each player would sign a 4 year contract with us

Rooney sign on: 25 mill
Rooney weekly wage: 250k
Annual wage: 13mill
Four years wage: 52mill
Total package: 77mill


Jovetic and Higuain: 47 mill
weekly wage: 190k
annual wage 9. 88mill
Four years wage: 39. 52mill
Total package: 86. 52mill

These are just rough calculations and haven’t factored in any bonuses or extras. Over 4 years, the Higuain and Jovetic combination will cost us an extra 9.5million but am certain it will score more goals. Also, it will go a longer way in motivating the squad than a single player. Better value for money to sign the two

If Rooney were to come here, of which there is no evidence other than Wenger saying he is a good player, he would have to take a price cut.

A big price cut, and to be honest I can't see wazza doing this.

06 Jun 2013 21:29:39
And jovetic is capable of playing out wide, behind the fro t man, creative midfield and up front. mainly right footed but can use both. If we did sign Rooney his agent will tell him to put a transfer request in after his second year. km

06 Jun 2013 14:22:41
Wenger has been offered a new deal and the club hope to announce it by August

Noooooooooo!! THEY CAN'T BE SERIOUS. Had I known that I very much doubt I would have renewed my season ticket (seriously)

06 Jun 2013 13:29:55
Who knows? We make a lot of noise about it but the thing is that the monies that are supposed! To be available is including the wages for any player we sign. So it's does not take a rocket scientist to work out that if we were to sign let's say 3 half decent players on an average wage today of £90000 a week for a 3 year contract each that's over 42 million on wages then you got there bonuses so on that basis you are looking at buying 3 players for a total of around £28 million for the three out of the supposedly £70 million in the kitty. Or the alternative is probably 1 really decent player and then back to the old we will make do for this season again and wind every one up until next season 2014/2015.

06 Jun 2013 12:18:00
Wow,

David Dein would appear to have been transformed from a free-thinker into a Wenger follower. Crazy.

Anyone who had high hopes for him coming in and making a difference in the transfer market, be prepared for disappointed.

An interview for sky yesterday saw him explain that Wenger can only sign 'players who are available' and that other clubs' scouting networks have vastly improved.

Naturally I translate this pure crap as 'Wenger will only buy players who want to sign for us, whose clubs want to sell them, and won't come to a club with an offer that makes them reconsider if at first attempt they say 'he is not for sale'. ' I maintain that any player is available if the money is right.

I translate the second part as 'other people now use the same methods as us, or even better scouting methods/people, and we would rather see what happens and lie down instead of stepping things up in order to keep ahead. '

Dear oh dear. You can certainly tell they're best friends.

Remember folks, Wenger doesn't believe in spending the sponsorship money - he sees it as a 'reward for not spending'.

Today is one of those days. Time to bury my head til august!

Good. how bout january?

06 Jun 2013 11:57:54
A perfect summer:

GK:Cesar 4-6m
CB:Williams 10m
CDM/CM:Fabregas/Bender/Gren ier/PogbaAlaba/Wanyama (in order of who I want most not sure who i'd prefer out of grenier and pogba grenier is probably better atm)12. 5-25m
CF:Higuain/Jovetic 17. 5-15m

06 Jun 2013 11:27:12
Arsenal are lining up a £10m move for Bayern Munich utility player David Alaba. from the papers.

That would be a great buy if I say do myself. Great speed and talent. not scared of going forward. He quoted saying last season the PL would be a good place to play his trade.

I think Arsene read my last post lol.

5 names I think would be great to add to the team.

Stevan Jovetic £20 - £25 million
gonzalo higuain £18 million
cesc fabregas £20 - £23 million
David Alaba £10 million
Neven Subotić £12million

But then again £70million won't be enough to buy them all. But if you go with my top estamate it all comes too a whopping £88million now in my books that would be great if the board would give the funds for that.

What the comments on this?

David alaba is the bayern munich left back. He is the number 1 left back at the club, so why would he come to us?
Also, we have Gibbs and Monreal already! Left back is the only position we don't have to change at all, 2 world class internationals there

He wants to play cm.

06 Jun 2013 10:38:32
again for some reason my posts keep going into banter.

Arsenal are lining up a £10m move for Bayern Munich utility player David Alaba. from the papers.

That would be a great buy if I say do myself. Great speed and talent. not scared of going forward. He quoted saying last season the PL would be a good place to play his trade.

I think Arsene read my last post lol.

5 names I think would be great to add to the team.

Stevan Jovetic £20 - £25 million
gonzalo higuain £18 million
cesc fabregas £20 - £23 million
David Alaba £10 million
Neven Subotić £12million

But then again £70million won't be enough to buy them all. But if you go with my top estamate it all comes too a whopping £88million now in my books that would be great if the broad would give the funds for that.

What the comments on this?

They are not going to sell Alaba for 10 million. They consider him - with some justification - to be the world's best youngster.

Macc Gooner

Well, it might be in banter because you suggest a £20m striker along with £50m of midfielders :D

As well as a defender we wouldn't be able to touch for a minimum of about £20m (sadly)

I like the targets though!

It's going in to banter as most of what you're saying is about what you want to happen rather than what is going to happen

They go into banter because the editor who reviews it puts it there.

What was the buy back clause on fabregas? the fee would be set in stone.

06 Jun 2013 08:14:25
Arsenal are lining up a £10m move for Bayern Munich utility player David Alaba. from the papers.

That would be a great buy if I say do myself. Great speed and talent. not scared of going forward. He quoted saying last season the PL would be a good place to play his trade.

I think Arsene read my last post lol.

5 names I think would be great to add to the team.

Stevan Jovetic £20 - £25 million
gonzalo higuain £18 million
cesc fabregas £20 - £23 million
David Alaba £10 million
Neven Subotić £12million

But then again £70million won't be enough to buy them all. But if you go with my top estamate it all comes too a whopping £88million now in my books that would be great if the broad would give the funds for that.

What the comments on this?

What I reckon is we will be offloading some more dead wood, currently we are saving 10 mill a year on salary with the 3 out.

if we can offload another 10 mill in salary, we can then have some first team promotions, strengthen the GK position, hopefully replace any player we sell, aka Sagna

and the spend will be around 50 mill. taking into account we should be selling/saving around 20 mill worth.

a striker will cost us around 25 mill
a CDM around 10-12 mill
and a CB around 8-10 mill
with a GK costing us around 3-4 mill

net spend around 30 mill at best?

Defo, totally agree with you there. Hopefully we can have Jovetic to play on the wing as I think we do need a winger. Throw in a good keeper into that list and I don't think anyone would be able to beat us. Especially the way we play our football and the depth in the squad that we will have.

06 Jun 2013 01:48:15
asharvin/squallici/denilison - gone great a start.

Why is fabanski not going thought his contract was up. let's hope we still not keeping him although he did great job in the end but there were far more many times he did not do a great job. If he says leys hope they decrease his wages dramatically.

Hoping denilison was more arsenal and less denilison.
As this would show intent to get rid the likes of
Diaby Gervinho Santos Djourou Chamakh Park
Bendtner

Diaby will not be going anywhere, he is injured and still a good player when fit. Gervinho will probably stay unless we get a good offer - he is a useful option to have in the squad, the others will hopefully make their loan moves permanent (except Bendtner not sure what we will do with him).

Usmanov again, why are so many willing to prostitute arsenal football club, he has been convicted and served time for rape, he has been tied to a murder of a man who would not sell him his shares, his money is filthy and not a rouble not tied to money laundering, as an arsenal supporter for 25 years I would rather see us never win anything again than touch a pound given by Usmanov or his partners.

05 jun 2013 22:54:35
every arsenal supporter/fan watch this space.

we have more money to spend than man utd, man city and chelsea put together.

malaga gooner

Nothing you have 'predicted' has ever come true, why do you continue?

. and I'm just hoping we spend a fraction of it - and spend it wisely - Malaga!

COYG!

Put together??

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Man city have 100m+ chelsea have 100m+. Utd i'm guessing 50m+

Man city have already spent a speculative 50 mill, united will spend around 30-40 mill, chelsea have 20 mill schurrle deal and maybe even some more players. and arsenal have spent Zero (0. 00=0. 00)

I would hope ever so slightly for both Hihuain and Jovetic, either Ruben Garcia who I am told they're keen on or Vadillo, Gonalons is a much faster, much more intelligent passer, and better ball winner, he will also not miss portions of the season on the African cup of nations, Rami I agree with you on, Reina will not be willing to sit!