Arsenal Banter Archive June 06 2014

06 Jun 2014 22:39:14
Fabregas or Sanchez? Discuss.

{Ed027's Note - shouldn't even be up for debate, we are crying out for Alexis.

06 Jun 2014 23:17:15
Given the choice, definitely Sanchez.

He is exactly what we need.

06 Jun 2014 23:19:24
Okay then, I agree, but what about if we add the condition that if we go for Sanchez then Cesc joins the Chelski?

06 Jun 2014 22:37:04
Instead of us getting rapped up in ifs, buts and maybes. Let's talk about the facts. The fact is we've just signed a 17 year old Greek lad, by the name of Elias Chatzitheodoridis.

There was a tiny part of me hoping it was a anagram of Cesc Fabregas, but it has an L, and a I. Oh and a H, plus a T. Also a Z, and another I, followed by a second H. Two Os, a D, a third I, another D, a fourth D, and a fourth I.

Nope. I don't think it is.

It is however an anagram of 'Daze personical Horsesh*t'.
Welcome to Arsenal fella!

Flybo

06 Jun 2014 23:25:16
Yeah I was in Arsenal shop today and my 4 year old son wanted an Arsenal shirt, so I bought him one.

Than he asked if he could have that blokes name on the back of his shirt.

I told him I would buy him a house when he leaves home, its cheaper.

It all to do with finance. They are going to charge £2.50 a letter on the back of the new shirts. there's no chance of signing hulk.

Daze personical Horsesh*t
Don't know what happened there.
Flybo

Dags great minds think alike

06 Jun 2014 18:29:51
Ed, is it true that Wenger passed on a chance to sign Michael Bradley instead of Kallstrom last January? If so, that's unsettling.

Is Arsenal interested in resigning Cesc?

In your opinion, which midfielders, who have been linked to us, do you think we have a good chance at signing? Asier Illarramendi?

{Ed027's Note - Heard nothing on Bradley. Cesc, no. Illarra signed for Madrid last summer for huge money, seen as Alonso's successor.

06 Jun 2014 20:15:04
Arsenal should get David Marshall

06 Jun 2014 22:42:13
Very good keeper mate.

06 Jun 2014 19:34:32
GUNNER62. Are you still working around the Rushden and Irthlingborough area. I am about 1 mile from Irthlinborough. We could hook up if you have time mate.

06 Jun 2014 20:07:42
Golds,

Did you know Nene Park was the first stadium in the United Counties League to have floodlights?

And do you know who turned them on?

I'm there Mon to Thurs the week starting the 16th so pick a day that suits you best mate, can you do lunch times?

Dags was it queen victoria?

06 Jun 2014 22:01:05
Queen bloody Victoria Steve.

You sure? Lol

The singing postman who had a number one hit with " Have ya got a light boy "

Of course it was later than that. It was keith harris and orvil wasn't it. I all ways think staighter after a few brandies.

07 Jun 2014 00:57:37
Lol nah it was the late Bobby Robson mate.

06 Jun 2014 18:51:39
Hi GOLDBOY I'm back in Irthlingborough the week beginning Monday the 16th if you want to meet up for a drink mate that would be brilliant. I can get to any pub you think best to go to, the only one I know by name is the owl and needle at Rushden but I'll soon find any one you choose mate

07 Jun 2014 07:33:43
Yeah that's fine Needle and Awl Rushden just by Waitrose I know it pick a day and time .

06 Jun 2014 17:07:31
The Cesc to Chelsea rumours have me feeling sick today lol, but I actually can't see why Barcelona would sell him.

Wasn't he brought in to eventually replace Xavi? Who else do they have that can fill that role?

I can't imagine Cesc playing for Mourinho, since Mourinho was disrespectful of the two things that Cesc loves in football:

-Barcelona, and
-Wenger

But apparently these rumours have some legs to them, very worrying.

Peace,
Trini-Gooner

Sure one of the Eds can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read that they are looking at Koke as a replacement for Cesc and ultimately Xavi.

06 Jun 2014 15:29:32
Arsenal going in for a GK from France 'Paul Nardi'

Aaaaand he's gone to Monaco

Scott Carson is the man

06 Jun 2014 20:08:42
Would rather have Willie Carson G62 mate.

Id rather have frank carson.

06 Jun 2014 14:21:30
Ed, I think this is what AW needs to do: 1)Sign Fabregas immediately 2) Sell Arteta to West Ham United or whoever cares to sign him 3)Sign a DM which he should have done a long time ago 4) Sign Balotelli or Hulk 5) Sign whichever goalkeeper he wants including almunia. Arsenal fans will be happy as the trophies start flowing

06 Jun 2014 16:37:05
Not so sure Balotelli, Hulk or Alminia will start the trophies flowing mate!

06 Jun 2014 13:48:52
Ok, to Cesc or not to Cesc is still dominating this page, with the yes votes probably slightly on top. However even the yes voters probably accept that if we spend £30m getting him back we will have to compromise on our other targets, as we are not a plaything club for some rich oligarch with nothing better to do with his money.
So here are two options, would be interested to know what you would prefer:

A) Very top level Striker(i.e. Cavani or Benzema) + Top level CDM (i.e Bender) but no Cesc
or
B) Cesc but with cheaper striker (i.e Remy) and downgraded CDM (i.e. Shenderlin or Barry?)

We are not getting Cavani, his wages at close to 300k should tell us that.

Or c) buy cesc a decent forward and then either stick with our right backs and get a cheap dm or buy a cheap rb and make do in midfield.

I would go with c and try an approach for Martinez or someone around the same price area and caliber if possible.

06 Jun 2014 15:28:12
A) without a shadow of a doubt.

Option A all day long.

06 Jun 2014 15:58:49
Epping you got me thinking before with your crying into your Cavani shirt line and I'm now of the opinion we should blow the vast majority on Cavani and Pogba and then get Vela and Aurier who can also cover CB.

Thats it then, I would be forever happy. and back in the room. Lol.

Cavani and Pogba in new Puma Arsenal shirts stood next to Arsene on July 1st. :-)

06 Jun 2014 17:06:23
Why should we compromise?
when was the last time we spent any money?
Granted, we spent £42m last time out, but before that?
The last time I remember us spending big was a few seasons ago when we spent £40m on Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski, but we also recouped £40m selling RVP and Song, so we didn't spend anything.

we have suffered 8 years of penny pinching and selling our best players to keep the boat afloat.

The stadia is paid for and we are financially sound.
We have £130m in the bank, plus we received £90m from TV revenue and placing from last season.

That's £220m in the bank, available for transfers.
We are Arsenal Football Club, supposedly an elite European team, one of the best, at least that's what the price of our season tickets suggest

why can't. We just have one transfer window where we splash the cash and buy the players we want?

No bargain basement trolley dash.
pick the player we want/need, pay the required amount and just buy them.

Simple?

Hey Dags welcome on board mate, phew you had me worried with all that talk of the bloke from Cheapside.
Let's ditch the bargain buy one get one free starting 11 signings, it has to be 4 and 5 star buys when where thinking of main players who will be needed to play 30 games plus, bargain buys for cover i'm not against at all but not as Cesc substitutes

Totally agree dags

Why spend 42 mill on Ozil if your not going to follow it up with equal quality players.

Add to your money totals the 2 new sponsor deals kicking in this summer, ( puma and new emirates deal ) you could argue that there are very few players which are financially unattainable.

No point drip feeding new signings in over the coming years this is a 1 off window where the foundation for the next decade should be created.

06 Jun 2014 20:11:39
G62,

I forgot to mention that we must sign Remy too, lol.

06 Jun 2014 21:30:10
Absolutely Rocky, I forgot about the sponsorship deals, good shout mate.

06 Jun 2014 13:13:14
Don't post often but had Alan pardew in my cab last night so I asked him the big question!

Are we signing remy? His reply was.

"Honestly don't know but you (arsenal) and spurs are sniffing around him " lol made me chuckle also said I wouldn't bother his injury prone! Top bloke actually, bit of a nutter on the touch line but overall nice guy also said the same as we're all thinking "why don't you just spend the money and buy a top striker! "

06 Jun 2014 17:17:19
That would do for me.

Luvvly jubbly as Frank Spencer would say.

Oh wait.

06 Jun 2014 11:49:04
Just my 2cents on the Cesc saga, nothing has been confirmed by anyone yet. Yes Chelsea have admitted they are interested in him but that's about it. Cesc hasn't come out and said anything, and since when can we believe anything Arsenal say about prospective transfers?( 1 day they say they never heard of a player, next day he is confirmed as an Arsenal player).

Now i'm not very knowledgeable about clauses an such but is it not a possibility that Arsenal are waiting for a bid to be firmly accepted by Barca for Cesc before it activates the buy back / first refusal clause?

Im not saying he is going to join us, but there is always a chance. It would be crazy for Arsenal not to consider getting him back well that's my feeling anyway. The only negative from the boards perspective would be that Darren Dein would be involved with the club again.

06 Jun 2014 11:02:26
Seeing loads of rumours at Madrid wanting Suarez still, I think there is a chance they could land him.

If they did I guess we have a good shot at Benzema.

Just out of interest Ed & other Arsenal fans, what are your opinions on Benzema? I've always thought he was really average when I've watched Madrid and has better statistics because he's surrounded by great players.

06 Jun 2014 13:04:26
He was brilliant at Lyon, but seems to have gotten worse and worse with each year at Madrid. I'd still be happy with him, he has all the tools to be top draw .

06 Jun 2014 10:14:24
The fickle nature of some of our fans NEVER ceases to amaze me.

So when Wenger is linked with central attacking midfielders that very technical, physically small and do not have much pace - we want his head for signing in an area where we already have several players.

But then, when he passes on a player in that position he is equally wrong. Make up your mind.

Of course it's not nice to see an ex-arsenal player at a premiership club, but we have much bigger priorities than Fabregas.

STOP moaning. because by association you are making Arsenal fans with common sense look a bit daft.

06 Jun 2014 13:28:21
For me, there's nothing worse than a supporter having a pop at other supporters just because they want what's best for their team.

But hey, that's just my fickle opinion.

Fabregas is more than just a player billy, its a special case.

any other cm in the world and we could pass.

if it was song you wouldn't bat an eyelid. even though he is supposedly a CDM.

where do we WANT new players? all across the team if we are to emulate moneybags teams without breaching FFP.

Realistically we can only be like utd were. 15-20 top players. (unlike city and chelseas 30+)

adding cesc but trusting in the likes of say Gnabry and Jenkinson to fill the subs bench for another season I don't think would be the death of us.

though for the likes of jenkinson who knows how important cesc is, cesc playing in blue across town just might be a death knell

06 Jun 2014 08:22:02
Not a rumour just an opinion, I think that Javier Hernandez is a steal at the rumoured 10 million price tag. A real 'fox in the box'

{Ed025's Note - good as an impact sub for me bill but not a regular starter, £10m for a bit part player is too much, the money would be better spent on a player who will challenge for a first team spot IMO mate..

Good point Ed025 thanks for the quick response :)

06 Jun 2014 00:05:27
Right now, some realism, seeing though cesc is 100% not rejoining, to me it suggests were after superstar, now names get branded about but what strikers are actually world class that probably could be available? I think at a guess were after one of cavani or falcao. With a back up gk, rb & a DM, Martinez, bender, schniederlin in that order, like I said guess but that's what I'm thinking. What you think eds?

06 Jun 2014 09:08:36
Di Maria?

As I have previously said, if we allow Cesc to go somewhere else, we had better sign very top players to make up for that disappointment. As suddenly the likes of a Remy or Lukkaku just won't cut it with the fans. I would probably just be able to console myself seeing cesc playing for the Blues by crying into my Cavani Arsenal shirt.

06 Jun 2014 13:37:19
Crying into my Cavani Arsenal shirt. Best line I've read on here for ages. Quality. :-)

05 Jun 2014 23:56:56
G62

Face reality it has happened, I said a few days ago, people should move on. Where was Cesc when we played our last game of the season against Fulham when he was still at the club. reminder trotting off to a Grand Prix, he had 3 years left on his contract and he made a fuss about going back to his home town club. that back fired, let's get one thing straight he won't strengthen Chelsea, of course he is a good player but in 6 months Chelsea have cleared out Matta and David Luiz ( spelling) and Frank is off so do the Maths. It doesn't bother me in the slightest . We need dosh spent elsewhere

Fair point, but I'd have him back in a shot! You think we will spend the money in the other areas like we need to?

I couldn't agree more. A fail to understand the Fabregas love in. He craftily engineered a move from the club, whilst captain and with 3 years left on his contract. The fans foolish fell for his nonsense. As a player, he is excellent, but lacks pace and the team has to be set up specifically to get the best out of him. He has been found out at Barca, hence he is being sold. We have many options in his position and the funds are better spent towards a keeper, a right back, a defensive midfield player & a striker.

{Ed025's Note - a bit harsh on cesc that robbie IMO, he had the chance to return home and play for the best team in the world at the time, he never gave anything less than 100% while at the club, and i think he would grace any midfield in the world, sometimes you have to look forward and not back, and although i dont think he will return, i still wish him well mate..

06 Jun 2014 08:29:47
Ed025 does it again, if carlsberg wrote responses it would be that one!

{Ed025's Note - cheers mate..

Is it a done deal yet? If so its FACT and well done Banbury and if not well where these hope and all that :-)
If we didn't want him what's a bloke supposed to do?
As for leaving us for Barca! Well imagine you were lucky enough to be a footballer and your playing for say Milan, they've treated you with nothing but kindness and you owe them your whole career BUT Arsenal want you and not only want you but pursue you endlessly, could you say no to Arsenal? Even if Milan gave you everything?

06 Jun 2014 09:20:07
No Sorry peeps, i'm not having it. Great Barca was his home town. They didn't want him so we bought him as a youngster. Wenger not Arsenal but Wenger made him the player he was when we sold him. The team was setup to play around him. When he should be supporting his team he went to watch the Grand Prix (supposed Arsenal fan and he was our captain?), so no I don't agree with well Barca came knocking, so let's say Ramsey lives in Chelsea and played for them when he was 15, then he moves to Arsenal, we mature him over 7 years and Mourinho comes knocking, you happy to say go on Ramsay go play in your hometown, sorry but no. Also my guess is Wenger hasn't gone in for him not because he doesn't want him (we know Wenger loves Fabregas, it has been reported they speak regularly) but he's doing what's best for the Arsenal (which you fans always moan that he doesn't do, the man can't win). If he bough Fab in, it would slow the improvement of our future stars let alone slow the game down as we are a team with speed and impact. don't get me wrong I love Fab and I did want Arsenal to buy him if it was the premiership that comes knocking (only so no one else got him) but I can understand why Arsenal/Wenger didn't or hasn't gone in for him. Its funny though, i'm sure Mourinho slated Barcelona for having the worst side he has ever seen (Fab was part of it), asnd i'm sure Fab told Mourinho to shut this mouth, how the tides change for £200,000 a week. Anyway, so can we stop whining, I want Fab to sign this to sign that, because the other day people were saying they didn't want him. Its done (well nearly - I would laugh if they have lead Chelsea down the garden path and actually Arsenal have signed him though), we have higher priority positions to fill. Also the idea of Jack Wilshere or Fabregas being a CDM is an insult to the players. Arteta is a CDM because he used to be one before he was an AM. Phew built up Arsenal and World Cup tension. COYG.

{Ed025's Note - some good points there DW, but its different to the likes of rambo when your family and friends are in a different country mate..

It sounds like Fabregas is signing for Chelsea and I was wondering if we sidestepped the right to purchase him, in return for an agreement to purchase a Chelsea player. We have been linked with Cech (very doubtful), more likely to be Lakaku, which in my opinion would be an excellent purchase.

{Ed002's Note - You have dropped in to some bizarre alternate dimension.}