Arsenal Banter Archive January 09 2018

 

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09 Jan 2018 23:04:42
Anyone think the new kid will start tomorrow can’t be any worse than the other cbs.

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10 Jan 2018 00:57:24
I think the under twelves would be better than that lot.

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10 Jan 2018 07:57:59
Has he left on loan yet. Or is about to. Can't see him playing.

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09 Jan 2018 19:17:17
Arsenal 23 penalties conceded 23 goals let in. Not only is our defence a shambles, we have the worse penalties conceded and let in in the prem. Cech hasn't managed to stop one since joining either.

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09 Jan 2018 21:24:08
According to Wenger, 23 of them were not pens 😁.

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09 Jan 2018 21:34:37
Ha ha Dags i forgot that.

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10 Jan 2018 06:29:15
Its very alarming the rate that we give away penalties. Does nobody know how to tackle in this team!

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09 Jan 2018 19:12:38
I know it's not a massive name that everyone wants but what do people think of Jonjo shelvey? He has a good engine great range of passing, can score and set up goals. He has prem experience and I think is a snip at around 12 mil. I don't know why he hasn't stayed at one club because I think he has a lot to offer. Please don't slay me it is just a thought.

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{Ed025's Note - he was at liverpool as well sweetspot but hes a loose cannon mate..

09 Jan 2018 19:21:16
Not much more of a loose cannon than Lee coq or xhaka don't you think Ed?

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{Ed025's Note - i digress sweetspot...i meant head case mate..

09 Jan 2018 20:03:07
Complete nut job. that's why he hasn't pushed on.

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09 Jan 2018 22:24:26
Shelvey not slaying you sweet spot, but how would you even think he's good enough.

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09 Jan 2018 19:08:29
Citeh played a strong team in the fa cup and are playing a changed, strong team in the cariboo cup. Plus each game, strong players on the bench if needed. Not comitting suiside if it doesn't work out.

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09 Jan 2018 20:07:27
I guess a billion to invest in players helps 😁.

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09 Jan 2018 20:42:22
Whats that got to do with leaving players at home and putting kids on the bench, when first teamers were available to at least be on stand by.

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09 Jan 2018 20:47:08
Sy we had about 300 mil worth of attacking talent sat at home watching alone. What has your statement got to do with that. Pep could have left his stars scratching their backsides at home if he wanted, he had that choice too. Even more reason that we should jave played a fuller strength team then.

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{Ed025's Note - im with you steve..

09 Jan 2018 21:00:38
Ed i'm all for resting players using your squad but leaving us exposed and putting young kids on the bench who are not even squad players and leaving players who are paid fortunes at home is rediculous. If you are going to get beat get beat with a plan.

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{Ed025's Note - as you say steve the big hitters should have been at least on the bench, the chelsea game is a must win now or the season is finished, very naive on arsene,s part mate..

09 Jan 2018 21:21:11
Ed couldn't agree more. The two cup could have been managed better. doesn't mean we would win either of the games but give yourself a better chance. I think he did disrespect forest.

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{Ed025's Note - me too steve..

09 Jan 2018 23:08:01
If you can pay a billion for your squad then all the squad is strong and can be rotated

Citeh played a strong team in the fa cup and are playing a changed, strong team in the cariboo cup etc etc = unlimited funds

Granted - big guns should have been at the City ground but with City’s funds it’s easier to rotated. You must be blind to not see that.

As you can see I recognise our error as my head isn’t up my arse

City can put out two super strong sides with subs _ we cannot.

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10 Jan 2018 00:53:07
Sy that's the point, you don't recognise the error at all.

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09 Jan 2018 17:09:52
Im not sure why fielding a team comprising of a columbian international keeper, German WC winning cb, french intl rb, Nigerian intl fwd and 2 England international fwds plus others with prem 1st is showing disrespect, rather than it being a team that can reasonably be expected to have won the game and given players an opportunity for youngsters to get more experience and all to show why they should get more opportunities to play. It's boring hearing criticisms that don't seem based on common sense.

After 3 fa cups in 4 and AW still getting grief, in the same position I'd prioritise Europa league and prem too.

That said, it was a poor performance and not unique this season. Too many players simply not giving 100%. AW has either got to get rid of the players that don't perform, or take responsibility for it himself.

Right now the only players I'd want long term are Kolasinac, holding, bellerin, niles, wilshere, ozil, danny, lacazette. Kos and cech too, but looking shaky atm. Plus the young guns like nketiah, nelson etc.

Doesn't look world beating by any stretch, but can be a good core of hard workers and talent, just needing a couple of additions.

All the others need to up their game or be replaced in the most practical way.

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09 Jan 2018 18:52:20
Playing the defence with the players he used in their present guise and filling the bench with kids, playing two young right footed players on the left, if that isn't showing disrespect, Its showing the blokes judgement is misguided at best. He is solely resposible for putting a team out that was not capable of beating a nottingham forest, who are not in great form in the championship. Many people before the game, suggested he had misjudged what was needed and were proved correct. The bloke is making judgements on a daily basis that are wrong. he's lost the plot and arsenal football club are paying dear.

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09 Jan 2018 18:59:04
He put that team out he made the changes and he takes the can. They are his players, that he bring to the first team and he trains his way. Did we have fit players who were better than he put out who could have maybe done better. Did he have to change it so drastically. Did he have to play so many players out of position. Did he have to expose the young kids to that. Its wengers call.

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09 Jan 2018 19:13:54
It's damming Steve and no one defends him now.

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09 Jan 2018 20:04:48
Sorry sano, i can't help it.

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09 Jan 2018 17:09:27
Keep Sanchez and Ozil. Keep any player that have an impact on our 1st team.

Then let Sanchez go for free. 30£ million now or free in the summer is the same, as we have no chances at top 4 without him.

And why are we not going for Mahrez instead of Lemar? PL experience, not old, cheaper and better than all the wingers we have right now (expect Sanchez)

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09 Jan 2018 21:47:45
Right now he is better than Sanchez.

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09 Jan 2018 09:52:32
What we need my friends first and foremost
is a new manager and then let him assess the squad and then let the comings and goi gs begin. The whole Sunday debacle proved once again that he has seriously lost it. The line up on Sunday showed no respect for Forest, The Competition and lastly and most importantly no respect whatsoever for the Travelling Gooners. If you are thinking of selling Walcott why play him and cup tie him. I said it so many times Wenger must be
made accountable for this mess we are in. He is arrogant beyond belief, deluded and so far past his sell by date its untrue. If we don't get a good result tomorrow night and i am presuming that's why he rested so many
players i am wondering what his excuses are going to be. Well that's my rant over and has i have not posted for a while i wish you all a Happy New Year.

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09 Jan 2018 11:02:04
Hard to argue with that mate. Like I've said regarding possible targets we need to tread water and by some sort of luck scrape a CL place.

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09 Jan 2018 11:37:11
The frightening thing about our squad is that if you omit the following players:
Out of contract: Ozil, Sanchez and Wilshere
Short contracts (that I am aware of) : Ramsey, Ospina and Welbeck - There are quite a few other players whose contracts expire in 2019!
Players that are reportedly available to leave: Coquelin, Walcott and Elneny
Retiring: Mertesacker and possibly Cazorla
Youngsters - Except Maitland-Niles, the only one ready for regular PL selection

We have very few quality players on deals of 2 years+.
What a mess.

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09 Jan 2018 13:40:25
Happy New year HG. Hard to disagree with your comments. I am mixed at the moment, as like most Arsenal fans i would like to see us splash the cash on a big January signing, but realise that whatever slim transfer budget our billionaire tightwad owner will make available would a) almost certainly be wasted by Wenger by signing players we don't need, and B) should now be left for a new manager so they can build their own squad.

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09 Jan 2018 15:43:13
You just have to look at city, united and chelsea and the vast amounts spent only to be sold or loaned off once new managers come to the helm.

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09 Jan 2018 18:57:26
The team on paper is not bad compared to other teams at the top. The problem lies with wenger and bouldy who have no plan b and are clueless when we are under pressure. Their lack of motivation tactics and passion resonates to the team on the pitch. They sit there staring into the wilderness. Back in the day we had adams vieira etc to lead the team now we have no one to kick players up the backside if they aren't performing. This is where wenger has been found out. I have said before our best january business would be to get rid of wenger and his hangers on who have let this club rot. He could of left like a king but will leave with his legacy in tatters. Sad really. But sentiment cannot play a part in arsenal. We need a new direction which unfortunately wenger cannot provide. We need a manager that can motivate players EVERY game not when we have been embarrassed. Look at pep and klopp their teams turn up every game giving their all chasing the opposition down and being ruthless. Wenger is too soft with his players and gets one good game out of them and then they do nothing for 10 and he will not drop them. He is holding back the progress of players by playing them out of position. We have the stars but no leadership from the bench.

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09 Jan 2018 08:33:38
Views please all - Evans vs Gabriel? My personal view is that Gabriel was faster, and younger.

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09 Jan 2018 09:05:09
Selling Gabriel 27 for £10m, whilst signing Evans 30 for £20-25m makes little sense.
Selling Gabriel for £10m, whilst keeping Chambers made no sense, as we reportedly had an offer of £15m last summer for Chambers, who is ordinary beyond belief.
I was heavily criticised for mycomments on Arsenal's defence and DM options earlier this season and I stand by them.
We need to sell/ release and replace: Debuchy, Chambers, Mertesacker (age, high line and lack of playing time has caught up wth him) , Monreal. Holding needs a loan deal to play regularly under a defensive style manager such as Pullis.
We need to sign a RB that can defend and cover at LB. We need a couple of CB's and DM's. Of the players possibly available I would suggest signing Nzonzi and David Luiz (predominantly as a DM, not a CB) . The squad is a mess and I feel Wenger needs to go. We need a top manager such as Simeone or Allegri, not Arteta and I wouldn't want Wenger to join the board, as we need a change of direction.

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09 Jan 2018 09:07:46
He was definatly younger lol. Don't know how much Evans could have done about that 😂.

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09 Jan 2018 11:03:38
I thought you were keen on Evans RG and said it makes sense the other day. I could have misread it though.

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09 Jan 2018 11:30:05
Hi Sanogo - Desperation! Our current CB's are:
Mustafi - Best of the bunch and Wenger nearly sold him last summer
Koscielny - 33 in September and has a permanent achilles injury
Mertsesacker - Retiring in the summer
Holding - Needs a loan deal to a team with a defensive manager, such as Pullis
Chambers - Ordinary and £15m from Palace last summer should have been grabbed!
Monreal - A left back converted to CB and would not be in any of the top 4 teams

Is Evans the answer, possibly in the short term, but we really need a couple of top CB's.

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09 Jan 2018 12:06:42
Ah ok mate I thought I read something somewhere.

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09 Jan 2018 13:35:31
I wasnt upset that we let Gabriel go, as typical of us, he could be fantastic one week and dire the very next. He always had a mistake in him though and for that reason it was correct to let him move on. Perhaps we should sign a player who prioritises defending rather than a player that is first and foremost is comfortable on the ball. It sounds a stupid comment, but we were at our most successful with Adams and Bould at the back, neither of which you would want to step up and start playing the ball through midfield! I actually do like N'Zonzi as a DM option. No guarantee he can cut it back in the premiership, but i could see him play as a DM who could also play as a CB if/ when required, and his height could help make up for the loss of Merts in certain games.

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