Arsenal Banter Archive June 14 2018

14 Jun 2018 13:29:27
Reports of interest in Gotze seem well wide of the mark, as we have options in his favoured position. I am not too keen on him in any event.
I am interested in learning the fate of Wilshere, Ramsey and Welbeck. I have a feeling that Wilshere will depart. It will be a shame, but perhaps we need to move players on who are injury prone or simply not good enough at the top level.
I would like us to keep Ramsey or if he goes use the fee received to make a quality signing. I have mixed feelings in respect of Welbeck, as we have 3 quality strikers all in contention for one central role. Hopefully the days of playing players out of position in order to accommodate them in the team are over.
Sell/ release: Chambers, Akpom, Campbell, Jenkinson, Perez, Ospina and Mustafi,

We seem to have made 4 quality signings for approx £55m, so there should be a further £15m available, plus funds brought in from sales, which could be considerable if Ramsey &/ or Welbeck &or Mustafi are moved on.

Send youngsters such as Nelson, Nketiah and Willock out on loan for a season.

Bring in a replacement for Mustafi, possibly Soyuncu, a further DM - Nzonzi or Fellaini to play alongside Torreira. A wide attacking player would also be welcome.

14 Jun 2018 14:28:26
Lots and lots of silly rumours mixed in amongst the odd grain of truth.
Much like the silly 50 million limit that magically turned into 70 million and once we've surpassed the 70 million mark it will magically jump again so the hit seekers can keep getting paid :-)

14 Jun 2018 15:48:46
Still don't get your issue with Ramsey RG and chambers is not even as bad as you make him sound.

14 Jun 2018 16:03:54
Ramsey is a good player Xhaka I just question his defensive willingness to play midfield, in the hole as he did for Wales in Euro 2016 or as one of a supporting pair behind Pea in think he an asset but in midfield he's way to much of a headline seeker and not defensively switched on for me personally.

14 Jun 2018 17:03:19
I don't have a problem with Ramsey, but I think it's hard to fit 2 of him, ozil and miki in a team let alone all of them. I know that makes good squad depth and in an ideal world they would all appreciate that, but I doubt any of them will be too happy on the bench most of the season and Ramsey is currently the easiest to shift because of his lower wages.

14 Jun 2018 17:09:12
Me i would send holding out on loan and keep chambers, he's in front of holding and maybe he can play a few cup games and come through with coaching. If ramsey signs, i see him as an important player for us. Just as important is the shield in front of the defence, if its torreira, then maybe nzonzi as well, that would give ozil, myki, ramsey, niles, auba maybe lacca and others the base to get about their work.

14 Jun 2018 17:26:06
The issue I have with Ramsey is that if we can't persuade him to extend his contract, then with only a year to go we must sell him, especially if we can get the £50m fee suggested, which in my opinion would be an awesome fee for a player entering the final year of his contract.
As for Chambers, I think he is certainly not a top quality centre back and is at best a lower PL level or more likely a Championship level player. He arrived as a promising young right back, whose form quickly deteriorated under the previous regime and was converted into a very average centre back. Would any of the other top 6 teams want him? Not a chance. It's interesting that the team reportedly interested in him are Fulham, a team just promoted from the Championship.

14 Jun 2018 17:35:19
Hi Steve r - I prefer Holding to Chambers and see far more scope in Holding benefitting from improved defensive coaching under Emery. Chambers for me is ordinary. Holding is a year younger and 3 inches taller than Chambers and having witnessed Arsenal's great defences containing Adams 6'3", Bould 6'5", Sol Campbell 6'2" and Keown 6'1", I like my CB's tall. Chambers at barely 6ft and being a converted right back has not impressed me since his early days at RB. I am not sure Holding will be a great CB, but I prefer him and Mavropanos to Chambers. What little I have seen of Soyuncu impresses me, hopefully he will join us.

14 Jun 2018 18:04:26
Rg i think if ramsey doesn't sign he will be sold. I think ultimately, he will sign. We will have to agree to disagree on holding and chambers. But both are still open to improvement, or not.

14 Jun 2018 19:04:20
Steve r - agreed!

14 Jun 2018 20:25:16
Would any top 5 team want Chambers as he is? No way Jose Pep Poch Klopp Conte
But equally would any top 5 team want Xhaka Mustafi Wilshere Welbeck Elneny etc.
Chambers is no different to most of our players who've gone backwards since they joined us.
Come to think of it who of our players would the top 5 clubs want?
No one tried for Mesut in January before his new contract even Pea wasn't courted by the top 5 before joining us and Aaron, has anyone bid for him with one year left on his contract?
If others deserve a chance why not Chambers as he's most certainly not the only one who doesn't features on the most wanted list.

14 Jun 2018 21:31:09
Ramesy is garbage and i am from Wales.

14 Jun 2018 22:02:18
I think all our players have something to prove crybaby including Aaron Crybaby mate.
Pea needs to show clubs who gave him a miss made a mistake
Aaron needs to prove he can live up to his own opinion of his ability
Mesut that he is still as good as before he joined us
And most of our players need to prove they are better than we've seen front them so far, Xhaka to Chambers to Mustafi.
If they truly are better than we've seen then next season is the time to show it because they won't. get many more chances at Arsenal or club anywhere near as big if they don't deliver under Dick.

14 Jun 2018 22:19:25
Jeez! I’d get thrown off here if I put what I wanted! Garbage my arse! COYG.

14 Jun 2018 10:08:56
Lots of discussions regarding Mustafi and Xhaka, and whether Emery can get any more form them. One player seemingly skating under the radar with regards to this is Kolasinac. I loved him the first few games, but admittedly he faltered slightly as the season developed. Was this confidence? Form? Formation? Who knows. I am however very excited to see how he performs under Emery and really hoping he becomes the beast he was in the Bundesliga. With our other (potential as yet) defensive recruits, a fit and firing Kolasinac could be fantastic.

14 Jun 2018 10:20:54
It's a hard one with him because he was ideally a wing back which isn't going to be a feature much this season if Emery does stick with the 4 at the back. I really want to see him do well and he certainly has the potential to do so! Some training and encouragement with a new coach and I think he will be more than comfortable back there. We can't rely on Monreal all season with Emery's high intense pressing.

14 Jun 2018 10:43:08
Wasn't he German player of the season before we signed him? I may have dreamt that :-)
Sanchez is the only Arsene signing of the last 5 seasons who has done well and increased his reputation at Arsenal
Chambers Welbeck Ozil Xhaka Mustafi all arrived in better shape than they are now so on that basis all should be given a season under a new coach and the benefit of the doubt I guess.
Oh I guess you could add Elneny and Holding to Sanchez as having their reputation improved under Arsene at a push simply because none of us had ever heard of them before and have now.

14 Jun 2018 10:54:13
He was in the Bundesliga team of the season yes, as a wing back :) he played well for us as a wing back but was sloppy at LB.

14 Jun 2018 12:35:01
Kolasinac was playing superbly in Germany and started well when he joined us. As with many new signings in recent seasons they start well and then appear to go backwards. Under Emery I have a feeling he will improve considerably on last seasons performances, especially with an improved emphasis on the defensive side of the game and with a greater intensity on pressing the opposition.

14 Jun 2018 13:02:57
Kolasinac has gone from playing wing back for 2 weeks to having 2 weeks on the bench. Then coming back in the squad as a full back and then the next week he's playing on the right side of the back 3. It's hardly surprising he's been frustrated and we've seen a dip in his performances. Playing people out of position and inconsistently should hopefully of come to an end now so I think we will see a lot of improvements throughout the squad :)

14 Jun 2018 14:41:43
Play your best 11 in their correct positions each and every game if you want to be the best you can be.
Rotation is for the cosy people the best players don't fear competion, they don't even think about it they just let their performances do the talking for them.

14 Jun 2018 07:32:23
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th June 2018

14 Jun 2018 11:38:35
Fines for ffp is madness! If like you say the owners wealthy it's barely a scratch and then if it's because the owner was spending money they didn't have, then it's even more money they don't have to pay back! 😂 I did read an owner can gift their club money underwriting spending. That can't be right can it otherwise city and psg wouldn't have any problem they can just gift their clubs whatever they want? Without the need for dubious sponsorship deals. Or can they do it but its just limited?

{Ed001's Note - I am not sure anyone actually knows. Including UEFA. The FFP situation has got a bit messy as UEFA are limited by the fear of clubs breaking away.}

14 Jun 2018 15:32:35
its pretty sad when its a stupid owner living above their means which seems to be the only clubs who get badly affected, like villa for instance. someone whose owned it for only a few years who makes some terrible decisions then puts a national institution that's been around for over 100 years and means a lot to many people at risk of dissapearing. the owner vetting process doesn't seem up to much, quite a few clubs have had terrible owners.