Arsenal Banter Archive April 27 2018

27 Apr 2018 20:31:58
Enrique, Allegri, Ancelotti, Arteta, Vieira, Rodgers, Emery, Favre, Jardim

The Bookmakers haven't got a clue yet, as you could back all of those with different firms to get the best prices and make a profit as long as one of them got the job :)

In fact the odds vary so much you could add a few more to the list too!

27 Apr 2018 22:01:57
Ancelotti for me.

27 Apr 2018 22:47:45
Ancelotti has nothing to lose by taking the job as he doesn't currently have one, Emery is soon to be out of work also, I'm not saying that should rule them out but it would be nice to see someone who actually already has a good job give it up because they fancied the Arsenal job more.

27 Apr 2018 23:45:44
Watch for the plot twist, it'll be Gerrard. Lol.

27 Apr 2018 23:50:05
Ancelotti was 25/ 1 with sky a couple days ago, don't know why such long odds. I think he's one of the better candidates to steady the ship for a few years.

27 Apr 2018 23:58:09
He's slimed to 12/1 now, but tuchel is 16/1 and I thought he was almost certain to go to PSG, The sky bet odds change dramatically all the time, can't read anything into them.

{Ed033's Note - Slime is an appropriate word to associate with Sky Bet.

28 Apr 2018 00:15:35
Gerrard / Lampard partnership :-)
It will work if we stick at it long enough.

28 Apr 2018 13:34:37
Just to give a couple of examples from the list i posted and using a broad selection of bookmakers

Enrique price ranges from 6/ 4 to 4/ 1
Allegri price ranges from 5/ 2 to 10/ 1

As soon as something leaks out from Arsenal there will be unity in the betting markets and the differences will be negligible. I used to make a living from price anomalies from bookmakers but they consider that sort of behaviour 'very naughty' and stop taking bets.

My point really is i am watching the markets for a clue as to how i excited i am going to be by the shortlist when it is known.

28 Apr 2018 23:37:51
Simeone is my pick but I feel Its allegri. Which I don't mind.

27 Apr 2018 15:17:33
Read a report that psg have offered wenger the GM role with tuchel as head coach. I remember ed02 saying wenger might work with tuchel soon. Am i getting close ed?

{Ed001's Note - yes PSG would love to get Wenger involved.}

27 Apr 2018 15:31:27
Would tuchel love to get Wenger involved?

{Ed001's Note - I would think so, it would make his job a bit easier as it gives someone else to protect him early doors while he finds his feet. Not sure it is a good combination though myself, Wenger is a bit too weak with egos and Tuchel struggled badly to cope with egos. Could be a complete disaster.}

27 Apr 2018 15:55:03
Psg manager/ coach would be a good call from us, me thinks.

27 Apr 2018 15:55:22
I bet Punani can think of a solution to the Tuchel Wenger dilemma:-)

27 Apr 2018 16:28:51
G62 don’t just don’t! We don’t want him going off on one telling us that we don’t understand football 😂 only joking punani 👍🏻.

27 Apr 2018 17:23:52
lol gunner mate, my solution would be for wenger to go to PSG and tuchel to come to Arsenal :-) .

On a serious note i doubt wenger will get along with tuchel because tuchel has an ego the size of planet jupiter.

27 Apr 2018 17:45:22
Hey Punani we've all got our favourites mate, I like Jennifer Aniston and Denise from East Enders while you like Tuchel and Nanglesman.
It's a case of whatever turns you on I guess mate :-)

27 Apr 2018 21:55:42
I am willing to teach you about football sanogo if you can handle it:-)

27 Apr 2018 21:56:58
Lol gunner mate how did you telephatically know that i have nagelsmann wallpaper in my room? :-D.

27 Apr 2018 12:26:01
Personally I think 200 million isn’t enough to buy a keeper and defence and midfield that would only get 4/ 5 players.

27 Apr 2018 15:18:21
At the start of the week according to the papers we only had 50 million to spend and people said it wasn't enough and now its friday and we suddenly 200 million to spend but it's still not enough in some people's view :-)
Kante cost 5 million and by my reckoning 200 million would buy us 40 players like him.
People are obsessed with money, you can still buy a lot of player for 15 to 20 million if you shop in right places and that would give us 10 to 15 new players.
Let's see what our new backroom people come up with over the summer, I'm sure they weren't brought in to point at the likes Ronaldo Messi Bale Salah and identify them as being good players, because if they were i wonder if there is any more jobs like that going because even i could do that :-)
Chill out give everyone a chance and let's see what happens.

27 Apr 2018 15:36:26
Perfectly correct G62. Arsenal are outside of the biggest spenders whilst been far ahead of others in terms of spending. That’s why mislinstat is in the fold as we need to spend money better and get more bang for our buck. But we can afford the odd luxury and I feel a good summer will involve 1-2 big signings and 3-4 good value signings with every chance of picking up a good freebie (Meyer) .

I tell you what it’s like the g62 of two years is bag gobbling down his optimistic meds 🤪.

27 Apr 2018 16:08:00
Something happend to me this time last week Sanogo mate, I can't quite put my finger on what it was exactly but suddenly the pessimism disappeared and all seemed possible again.
I can only put it down to the new brand of granola I've started having :-) .
We need to be open to giving everything and everyone who comes in a chance and the benefit of the doubt no matter if it's who we would have signed ourselves or not.
Johny Evans at 3 million? Not exactly someone who's going to sell many shirts on his arrival or have everyone dreaming of titles but would he improve our defence and leave us with 197 millions still to play with? I don't know but I'd be open to finding out if it happend.

27 Apr 2018 16:33:09
The thing is the man who comes in surely will know the defence needs sorting and depending on where he wants to spend the big fees and how many defenders then Evans might fit that criteria. Tell me an arsenal defender on current form who’s better lol. Maybe a bit extreme but seriously. We’re going to have to pick a few from the bargain bin a few from the sensibly priced and a few from the top end. All this combined with new coach and coaching staff then it’s a good base to kick on.

27 Apr 2018 17:33:31
I doubt it will all happen in one summer mate but over the next two summers 3 or 4 players from off other peoples radars 0 to 15 million and 3 or 4 established players with room for improvement for around the 30 to 40 million mark could see us back in the top 4 fight or possibly more.
I bet if we went through last summers buys from all premier league clubs you could come up with a very decent starting 11 plus 1 or 2 subs for 200 million or less even.
If money was everything Leicester would never have won the title, Burnley couldn't possibly finish top 7 and with what Utd City Real Barcelona PSG and co have spent Liverpool wouldn't have got past the champions league group stages.
Money can sometimes make things happen easier and quicker but where there is real will, real desire and real determination there is almost always a way.

27 Apr 2018 09:37:55
Jose doesn't sound happy that people are questioning him on being the one who let both Mo and KDB slip through his fingers at Chelsea, apparently he didn't make the decision to sell them :-)
Without being disrespectful to Arsene his job as the premier leagues chief excuse maker for his own poor decisions has already been filled by Jose :-)
Jose always said he might one day take over Arsenes job, to think we all thought he was talking about being Arsenal manager :-)

27 Apr 2018 07:04:32
Great to see the Emirates full and rocking, which bodes well for the new manager.
On the positive side we gave Atletico a hard time and there were some top performances and passion.
On the negative side, the frailties seen in the second half of Wenger's time at Arsenal were there for all to see.
What continued to concern me was the lack of defensive cohesion leading to the equaliser and the lack of a cutting edge at the other end, with many chances missed.
Thoughts on the new manager continue and at present I belive we need a more pragmatic, experienced manager who can sort the defensive side of the game out. Inexperienced managers or those that have only coached are worrying me.
Interestingly reports are coming out that Enrique wants the same salary that Wenger was on, which shouldn't be a problem and that he requires £200m to spend on the rebuild of the defence, midfield and keeper. I mentioned in a previous comment that the new manager would need at least £100m. Gazidis has stated in the past that the money is available and encouraged Wenger to spend, but stubbornly Wenger stuck to his own beliefs. I have no doubt that the board will back the new manager financially.
My current choices are Allegri, Enrique, Benitez, Ancelotti and of course Simeone, who showed how well organised and difficult his team is to be beat. The more risky choices would be Vieira, Rodgers or Marco Silva.
The ones I would avoid are Arteta, Howe, Dyche, etc.

27 Apr 2018 10:13:15
Any Armchair or real football manager will know it's the defence and midfield that needs sorting most desperately.
I know he's not popular with Arsenal fans but almost every fan of another team I talk to about us if I ask them who from our squad would you want in you squad the two names that get mentioned by far the most by Spurs City Utd Liverpool Chelsea fans are Hector Belerin and Aaron Ramsey.

Belerin along with Monreal are the only 2 current Arsenal defenders who would stand any chance of making my starting 11 for next seasons opening game. I would tell Kos to enjoy the world cup then have a nice long extend summer break and not to report back for Arssnal traning until September, the bloke has been our rock for seasons but age and playing through injuries because we needed him so badly have meant taken their toll on Kos and if it's possible for him to ever get back to his best again he's going to need much better handling off the pitch and a lot lot better support on it.

27 Apr 2018 02:59:57
I have always wondered with how to beat a team like simeones's atleti. i remember their performance against bayern in 2016 and guardiola's team couldn't create many chances. I think it is stupid trying to pass the ball around. They will stay compact. So what do you do?

personally i would either have sat deep and let them keep the ball then they would be forced to come out or just cross the ball relentlessly especially with low crosses with players positioned at the far and near post. I think it would be crazy with one team trying to cross the ball the whole game and another trying to defend the whole game. By the way crossing the ball might help against them because that is the only clear cut chance we fashioned in the second half. Think we should try that moe often.

26 Apr 2018 23:16:49
Just when I thought Arsenal couldn’t disappoint me anymore, they manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in a manner that has made me angrier than I have been over a football match in a long while.

Countless missed opportunities, an inability to recognise what pace of play was being effective, poor decision making, lack of players gambling that a cross was coming in, everyone was back on their heals.

NO subs by Wenger! They are playing with 10 men and at the end when we started playing with a lack of urgency and they were tired we bring on no fresh legs. As for Kos instead of sticking the ball in row Z he tries to kick the ball back over his head (which he does quite often to little effect) .

Pitiful, just pitiful and the final straw was watching Lacazette laughing and joking with the opposition after his team had just thrown away a golden opportunity to book a place in a European final, what the hell was that about where’s the passion for the club and fans, I was inconsolable when I played in a match that could have got me to a final which we lost or drew (and I only played at college level) the thought of laughing with the opposition straight after the match would be unthinkable I was always far too distraught because I really cared.

These players just don’t care enough, sure they are disappointed but they seem to get over it pretty quick, almost as if it happens so often they have got used to it and just move on and go back to their luxury mansions and shrug it off, whereas the majority of fans have to get up and (if they are lucky) go off to their mainly boring jobs in the morning feeling just a bit more miserable than normal because their team let them down yet again.

27 Apr 2018 09:07:55
Lacca was great for me and was talking to a French team mate what is wrong with that.

27 Apr 2018 09:17:56
Your players need more passion about the club they are playing for, at the moment they have zero. They seem like they don't give a damn about Arsenal, Wenger or the future of the club, they need the same mentality at the Liverpool players have, they want to do well, they will work hard and do anything to get the right result, that's been proven especially this year, whoever the next manager is will find it a difficult task with your players, the majority aren't dedicated enough.

27 Apr 2018 10:23:36
Klopp has Liverpool players playing for Liverpool again rather than for themselves, the team comes first with every player who Klopp allows to represent the club, to many of our players play for themselves first the club second and think they are doing us a favour.