Arsenal Banter Archive March 14 2016

14 Mar 2016 23:20:13
If we beat Barcelona 0 3 on Wednesday would that make everything OK :-)

15 Mar 2016 00:03:38
Id take 0-2 and 4-5 on pens. Yours is too unrealistic.

14 Mar 2016 23:50:39
NO

Wake up lol.

15 Mar 2016 07:52:05
No it won't, just like if we win the league, it will will be because of what other teams don't do rather than what we do, the problems and frailties will still be there, 2 FA cups wins have masked it for a couple years.

15 Mar 2016 08:36:04
1404 I said the same thing a month back when with 11 games to still we couldn't mathmaticly make 80 points + yet again that it would be embarrassing in this season where the big boys went missing for Arsenal football club to win their first title in over a decade with the lowest ever points total, we are better than that.
We are a very big club and shouldn't need to rely on an all time low standard season for us to be able to
win a big prize son we can pretend.

14 Mar 2016 22:08:21
I have always defended Wenger, you all know that.

I have always lived by the mantra, you support, with passion, whoever is the manager and whoever steps onto the pitch wearing the red and white Arsenal Jersey.

This season has been very difficult as an Arsenal supporter.
We have seen big teams, like Chelsea and Utd crumble, whilst watching unexpected teams, like Leicester and Spurs, rise to the top.

Expectancy was high but yet again, the team and manager has failed to push on.

Player for player we are as good as anybody, domestically at least, but time and time again, we buckle under the pressure.

This team is not good enough to win the league, which speaks volumes as nobody can argue that Leicester, relegation material last season, are more than good enough to go all the way.

Are they better than us?
On paper, possibly not, but the table tells us a different story.

Is Ranieri better than Wenger?
History tells us no, but football is about the present, not the past.

As Stoner passionately posted, we need a major overhaul, starting from the top.

We need to go back to the days of Chairmen who cared for the club, like Dennis Hill Wood and Peter Hill Wood, and not money suckers like Stan Kronke.

We need to pump some of the millions of pounds we have in the bank, money that the fans have invested, by season tickets, match day revenue and merchandising, and spend it on players, and not hospitality suites and overinflated premiums to our already multi rich Chairmen.

Never thought I would say it, but yes, Wenger needs to go.
He has been great for our club, but his constant failure to evolve and adapt to the ever changing face of football, is detrimental to Arsenal Football Club.

I have always admired his unwaivable desire to run Arsenal as a football club and not a multi global business, but that's the way football is nowadays.

Wenger has been great for Arsenal. Arsenal has been great for Wenger, but I think it's time for a managerial change.

He deserves our respect, I would argue that with anybody, but this season, whilst not a disaster, has been a shambles.

Not all the blame lays at Wenger's feet, the players are equally culpable, but as manager, Wenger carries the can of responsibility.

Time for a change, alas.

14 Mar 2016 22:34:52
I personally think this has been the worst season for Wenger and the board for a collective of reasons, there seems to be an arrogance from Wenger and the board that is damaging the club no end,

We owe Wenger everything no there's no doubt about that, he completely transformed the club but there was an Arsenal before me they'll be one after him, sadly the memory's of the good years are fading fast.

14 Mar 2016 22:41:13
No not a lass dags, women don't make good managers of prem teams. Good post though mate. Youve won me over.

14 Mar 2016 22:45:00
Seasons not over yet Dags. That's a question when indeed it's over and you can evaluate.

14 Mar 2016 23:04:05
Alas Steve, alas :-)

It's over for us NES mate.

14 Mar 2016 23:14:18
Dags

Very passionate post showing how much you care about the club and I agree with the content totally

Problems at Arsenal are deeper than Wenger. If he had money available and wasn't spending it Kroenke should have been on his case. Kroenke hasn't been and has actually supported him with talk about contract extensions

That proves the problem is emanating right from Kroenke down and sadly the money grabbing yank thinks we are Arsenal MONEY club and doesn't get that we are Arsenal FOOTBALL club

Someone on the radio said that the club is ours, the fans but Kroenke is proving that he has no respect for us at all. Somehow we need to show him that no club is anything if it doesn't have fans. Right now I'm hearing talk amongst other season ticket holders about not renewing but that doesn't bother him whilst there's 20,000+ waiting to take their place

I won't be dropping my season ticket but I won't be paying to go to things like the Emirates cup, buying programmes, beer or food etc in the ground or the latest shirt until he's gone because the only way to get rid of him is to restrict the cash going into the club. That's the only thing he understands

I love the club but there's a small part of me hoping we miss out on Europe, get knocked out of the two domestic cups in the first round we play as that will further reduce the cash going into the club and will trigger season ticket refunds taking cash out of the club as that will reduce the cash he is taking even more

It's a short term pain that could lead to the long term gain of him selling up to someone who hopefully wants to win things rather than make money

Even if Wenger left tomorrow no one of any note will replace him because they know they would be running a business not a football club and they know they wouldn't get the cash to build a competitive club

I fear for the future of the club as Wenger has the vision of the Emirates enabling us to compete with the very best but that vision will never come true with that yank owning the club

Instead of holding up banners asking Wenger to leave we should be holding up banners all over the ground at home and away telling Kroenke to go.

With or without Wenger wilderness years are around until we are free of Kroenke. I hate dein for introducing Kroenke to the club and I hate Kroenke for ruining the chance of greatness afforded to us by the move to the Emirates.

14 Mar 2016 23:39:41
Top post Soops, and spot on.

15 Mar 2016 00:34:43
Excellent post.

14 Mar 2016 18:48:25
Very honet post Stoner but what you have said about Wenger and Kroenke has been voiced on her for months and has been said for the last 3 seasons ( at least) , like you admitting AW's time is up, I would probably agree the same is for Giroud- yes a squad player but the run he has been on is woeful, even DW isn't the answer, my god it looks as though we need a huge clear out.

You are right about where the problem lies, it is with the profit mad yank, yes we all like to make money but some has to go back into the club.

As I said yesterday this acceptance of finishing 4th is going to haunt them, as is the policy of budget signings and the offering of one year extensions to the over 30's club. All of a sudden we will need 5 or 6 players, something AW frowns upon.

I really am quite concerned as to where we will be when AW leaves.

I said yesterday when he leaves we will be no better off ( in terms of strength of position in the league) than when he joined.

How mad will that be, and sad for that matter.

14 Mar 2016 19:08:30
Banbury, the club is set up for greatness but the present home owners are not the people cabable of achieving that. I believe wengers teams over the last few years have been flimsy and not very brave, i think that is something that only a change of personnel can change.

14 Mar 2016 19:27:48
I know Banbury, it's not so much burying my head but more a case of endeavouring to maintain faith, not only in Wenger but the players too.

You have said it before, we have a great 1st 14 or 15 but we have needed others to step up to the plate or Wenger to simply go and buy what is needed.

We have or should I say he has pursevered with players who are not up to it and that has cost us in the end.

The big concern is what or who comes next with an owner who still has no ambition to take this club where it should be going.

14 Mar 2016 20:04:12
Totally agree Stoner .

You are spot on, the American is profit profit profit and that's ok if you are willing to invest but when it comes down to being 4th and missing out on the CL place what will the yank think? Has AW had restrictions on spending that we don't know about or is it really AW holding back?

I am worried as we really should have cleared out last Summer and now the list is ever growing . Surely this Summer will be most telling, Wenger has to be able to dig deep if he doesn't who will want to sit in the 'hot seat'

14 Mar 2016 20:33:56
I don't think we have a great first 14/ 15 at all stoner! You can count on one hand the great players in the club especially based on this seasons debacle. We need 4/ 5 better first choice players and this is the least we need to challenge is a CB, DFM, CM, RW And a CF and probably a left back to boot.

14 Mar 2016 20:57:04
I don't think we have a great 14 or 15 either, as shown time after time a lot of our good players shall we call them are found out and are suspect and susceptible to poor performances under a pressure situation. Potential for some to achieve greatness but not many.

14 Mar 2016 21:04:10
Sanogo,

I'm really basing that on with Cech and Coquelin our defence was performing so much better.

Cazorla, Sanchez and Ozil were doing really well and as a unit we were more than coping. If Ramsey, Walcott, Chamberlain, Wilshere etc had performed then yes a good 14/ 15, maybe great was too strong a word but none the less they gave me faith or hope despite a lack of investment we had a great chance to do something.

I agree on the positions and not filling some of those in the summer means we are behind the game line again.

I remember Benzema tweeting something eluding to almost being messed about and saying he was going to stay put. Like we bid or offered wages that he considered derisory.

14 Mar 2016 22:09:07
Oh come on, our first choice 14/ 15 are good without a doubt
Cech
Bellerin
Kos
Gabs
Monreal
Ramsey
Santi
Le Coq
Ozil
Sanchez
Walcott
Ox
Wilshire
Giroud
Welbeck

Fully fit we would have a good starting XI and a strong bench, as I've said all season 3 or 4 injured and we are stuffed, players risked when they are carrying knocks, players over played. You can't have a worldie in every position . We can't be that bad we beat a very good Munich side at home but sohortly after fatigue and rot set in.

14 Mar 2016 22:32:45
Good maybe! Half of the time maybe but your right enough in having faith I did too but if we seriously want to challenge the EPL and even more so the CL then we need to top talent in those areas, a pogba a griezman a reus a aubamayang, a draxler a Rodriquez and probly more than just one of that bunch. A better CB for sure gab is starting to look like a donkey and mert is a donkey (nice cruyff turn though lol )

14 Mar 2016 22:58:26
Banbury good starting 11 yes good enough to win the league never, half of those you have put are either hardly there or are inconsistent. Gab, monreal, walcott, ox, wilshire giroud and ramsay have massive question marks against them. Good on their day but their days are not often enough for varying reasons. They aren't reliable enough, the others have a lot more going for them and may make up the basis of a good team but we need to be replacing the unreliables.

14 Mar 2016 18:33:33
Fans defending Wenger because of what we won 12, 13 or 14 years ago is madness and even blinkered.

We nee a change and need it ASAP.

14 Mar 2016 14:59:40
I never thought I would see a side managed by Arsene Wenger this bereft of confidence, ideas and passion.

It really is a sad state of affairs and must be soul destroying for the man unless his public delusion is creeping into his managerial and personal mindset.

The barren years were made tolerable by the flair and verve with which we played. Now we've passed the oasis of FA Cups, or rather a mirage, and see nothing but a sterile wasteland stretching out towards the horizon.

Change is of paramount importance if we are to fertilise our environment otherwise we'll just continue to prick ourselves on evert single cucking factus we pass.

14 Mar 2016 10:39:47
Had a nightmare. Spurs fans were chasing me in my dream because they finished above us come end of season. lol.

{Ed025's Note - now thats what i call a nightmare willy..

14 Mar 2016 12:28:28
Lol Ed
hope you don't experience that.
it's a debacle, i call it so.
Spurs fans should be blowing bubbles now that they're six points clear off us.
i sense mockery! Can't believe they sit on top of us. Hope "Aladin Wenger" pulls off some sort magic to turn things around.

{Ed025's Note - they are looking good to be honest willy, of course arsenal fans will never hear the last of it if spurs do win the prem..come on leicester!.. :)

14 Mar 2016 12:40:22
If they get to win this as it points, i'm a deadman and that memory will never be erased even if i get to format my brains as though it were a drive Ed.

{Ed025's Note - it certainly wont be easy willy but to be fair arsenal only have themselves to blame mate, not investing in new players last summer has come back and bitten them on the arse, there is an air of complacency and stagnation that surrounds the team now and thats a god damn shame..

14 Mar 2016 13:09:07
To be fair though ed25 the Spurs fans are crowing a little to early for me, with game in hand it's only 3 points between us and the likes of NEspur might look a right twonk come May. But to be fair you can't knock his excitement it could well be the first time in his life he has seen this happen! I would be going on like an old skirt if it was the other way round.

{Ed025's Note - thats true SLB, let them enjoy their moment in the sun..its never likely to ever happen again mate.. :)

14 Mar 2016 14:46:12
ha ha loving all the posts, even from an Ed. Come on boys cheer up. You've had so much success, you can't have it all your own way.

14 Mar 2016 15:04:59
It is only 6 points with a game in hand, all your fans yesterday were saying they are out of the league, how? It was an FA Cup game so it doesn't affect the league! We couldn't win yesterday, because when we won its well it's villa and they are bottom, if we had drawn or lost we would have been slaughtered

I've said it for long enough boys, we'll finish where we finish. I can't change that. I am a mere fan.

If we finish 6th, 5th, 4th or where ever

#enjoytheride.

{Ed025's Note - i like the cut of your jib N/E, good stuff mate..

14 Mar 2016 15:36:58
The reality is that Arsenal fans were fully of expectation with the other teams being so poor this year!

We have no expectation, how could we after the recent years, you could see from our supporters getting behind the team at both home and away fixtures that we are loving the transformation and 'support' our team.

Yes there will undoubtedly be some twists and turns in the up coming games and the majority of football fans now want Leicester to win because it would appear that they are in a very strong position, And our teams trail them, God forbid if our rivals win it eh!

However, it's nice for the league to be so open this year, with a few other teams being involved, instead of the so called usual top four and I for one would like that every year. Far more exciting.

So again boys, there's plenty of points to be played for and come what May, the league champions will be crowned.

I'm generally a very passive realistic fan and am looking forward to my teams progression.

#enjoytheride.

14 Mar 2016 15:25:57
Cheers Ed. 👍🏻.

14 Mar 2016 17:11:22
I'm glad you understand our disappointment ne.

14 Mar 2016 18:13:40
Totally woof woof.

14 Mar 2016 19:15:22
To be fair if spurs do win it this year, for arsenal fans it will be no more than what spurs fans have had to endure for years, watching us constantly finishing above them and being more successfull.
What goes around comes around i guess, so we will have to take it on the chin, painfull as that may be.
If they do win it it will be on there own merit, not because we didn't stop them or because of luck.
There manager has forced them to evolve, where as ours stagnates.
All that being said, i still think leicester will win it and they deserve to.

14 Mar 2016 20:37:40
It's exciting for them! It's a feeling we know to well. Can't knock em from coming over here.

14 Mar 2016 00:25:34
If we had sanchez in the form that he had last season and combined it with ozil's form this season they would tear defences apart.

14 Mar 2016 08:03:54
Playing Sanchez against Norwich when his hamstring wasnt right before the game now looks like the turning point for both player and club Joe.
He hasn't returned the same player for some reason which maybe because of last summers copa America following the previous summers world cup so fatigue has caught up with him or for another reason we're not aware of .
Im not sure he will be an Arsenal player next season or Mesut come to that even though I do think well be in the champions league as usual I don't think going through the motions and last 16 is enough to hold either of them at the club for another season.

14 Mar 2016 09:57:44
I think we are all over reacting a tad! I agree this season has possibly been the most disappointing I can remember in years but I don't think we are going to be losing our star players! I think we will have another very frustrating window in the summer and sadly will probably have to wait another year and hope that we at least secure another top 4 finish next year to at least give whoever comes in a fighting chance. The frustrating thing is it dosent really matter who we buy the way he has the Arsenal players playing is the main problem! I'm sure you all can remember what Sanchez was doing when first he came he was taking players on making room and having a crack on goal but now he appears to be doing what every Arsenal player does and that's pass pass pass round the edge of the box and little dinks over the top not even getting it in with some pace or whip. We are very predictable and everyone knows how we play, we move the ball slowly and every team are doing us quickly on the break. I really don't know how we can go forward it's looking stale and I have no idea how it's going to change.