Arsenal Banter Archive August 01 2013

01 Aug 2013 22:22:50
spurs now made an offer for Bernard we made an offer for no one, the window is driving me mad we need to strengthen watching Swansea tonight Williams was awesome, and why didn't we try and get w. bony looks just like what we needed a proper goalmachine. please pay the money for Williams and get the ffing ball rolling we are being made look like proper dicks. getting tired of spurs fans saying were signing. who are u in for and before anyone says they are losing bale I think the money he brings in will make them ultimately stronger.


ty. 1

I agree, the window is driving bonkers. As have other windows also. I am worried that Spurs, even without Garteh Bale, are going to be a problem this year. Obviously as a life long Gooner I am not going to change who I support, unlike the other guys that have commented below. Although I am seriously worried at the moment. I play in a rock band who have three Manchester United supporters and I shook their hands last year and said you should thank Arsenal for giving you the title, low and behold Manchester United won the title by a landslide thanks to RVP. I remember the days when we used to be a serious force in the league and I was almost embarrassed going down to the local pub to watch Arsenal, because they were so good. The current team doesn't even match the standards of the 2003/04 season by a long shot. People say it is to with the stadium, although it was actually due to us selling Viera and Henry two Arsenal captains. Now we have sold Fabregas, who was the main reason we sold Viera. Please Wenger and et al, bring us band to the standard that w expect.

01 Aug 2013 21:43:33
Anyone watch the Swansea game? Impressed with them (dark horses) especially Williams, would be a great signing! And Laudraup would be an excellent successor to Wenger, plays the right football and buys the right players

Bony and Michu will be a lethal partnership. But I agree with Laudraup, I remember when we played Swansea for the first time last season, and the commentators said, and I quote "Swansea are playing Arsenal football against Arsenal".
Could be a great season for them!

Copthorne Gooner

01 Aug 2013 20:46:00
heard Wengerr may be replaced after weekend games, before season begins due to fall out with the ownership

Never going to happen. Malaga Gooner in disguise!

01 Aug 2013 20:35:21
The difference between Liverpool and arsenal is that we would of sold Suarez if he was our player.

You would have wanted top dollar for him, like you got for van P last yr contract, 26 million. Oh yeh you let him go didn't you.

Liverpool are holding on to him and we are trying to buy him

How does your statement make sense?

Didn't we stick by big Tony and Merse as well as Hillier?

Sure we have had divers and cheats also.

I love our club and my rose tinted glasses but I am aware we look after our investments also

SY4

In this market he was a bargain, should have got the man u to pay 50min like you clowns compensate asking 35mil tops in my opion

01 Aug 2013 19:35:52
We are fast becoming the second best side in North London, I am stunned by the whole pre season thing, I really got sucked in by all the end of season talk from Wenger and co.

This has to be the season we finish 6th 7th or 8th, then let's hear the excuses.

Your right! I'm going to start supporting Spurs!

They had their best season ever and we had our worst, and we were still better

This summer we lose no one, they will lose Bale

All our players are starting caliber internationals, many of whom are captains; maybe 5 of theirs see the pitch on intl duty

This is the caliber of trolls now. Afraid of Spuds, and afraid to sign off on a rubbish post

Cheers

Well, you got to be an person if you think they are still weaker than us. They might lose Bale, but definitely Soldado will score buckets of goals for them. Plus they are re-inforcing better than us

Last season went right down to the wire, I dare Arsene Wenger not to strengthen, then he will get a reality check

01 Aug 2013 19:09:50
Sod it don't sign anyone, live and die by your sword Wenger you've backed youth for the last 8 years what's one more. let's see if we can play against the big boys and come out on top. I for one am just so eager to get this season under way I just want to see a team giving 100% and competing against the top teams and holding our own. Kroneke can keep my cash don't reinvest it in the team.

Holmesy

I think we can more than hold our own and compete at the top without signings

We don't have an owner we have an investor, wengers last season, he will go out his way.

01 Aug 2013 21:15:48
With you on the let's get it underway but I'm repulsed by giving that sceptic any more of my cash ordered the away strip for my lad usually a big affair left on his bed wenger come on matey let's get those players that can stop the gap growing

Gooner74

Get real. We are not nearly strong enough. We could be in trouble.
Sw18 gooner

Then u are naïve you clearly didn't take much of last season in yeah we ended well but many of the victories were very fortunate and we clearly struggled, against the better sides it showed our weaknesses as a team and a squad, and our definite need to strengthen, without we are up the creak without a paddle. our team became predictable and at times just couldn't break the opposition down.
ty. 1

01 Aug 2013 18:45:44
Hi Edd. was wondering if we had any interest in Seamus Coleman of Everton?

Think he would be great competition for Jenkinson and he has a lot of PL experience. push Sagna into CB contention, his attributes now seem to compliment this position better for me. Sh1t crossing, less pace, strength, determination and a great leap for headers.

Also I expect a CM and CF (personally I don't think Suarez will happen)

CM- Fabregas/Gundongan/L. Bender. all 30-35 million?

CF- Doumbia/L. Damaio/A. Sanchez. all 30-35 million?

If we made These signings. Coleman, 1 of CMs and 1 of CFs I would be very happy.
Are any of theses plausible targets for us Edd? Thanking you in advance :)

P. S. No matter what people say we have a stronger squad this minute overall than we have had since 2006. and a lot less dross and egos over the last few years too!

COYG {Ed027's Note - no mate Coleman is not a target for the club. We will get Cesc if he leaves Barca, that is unlikely, we have and interest in Lars I don't know if this has died down, none in Gundogan, none in the forwards either

Totally agree re Coleman. Tailor made for a top club. Surprised Moyes hasn't made a move yet! Would love to see him at AFC. LR

Cheers for the reply Ed 27. If we don't get Suarez, i'm finding it hard to imagine the marquee striker that wenger says we need and have the money to pay for!

Hes got to be a proven, established goalscorer with pace and on the right side of 25. options are dwindling quickly!

Great site btw :D {Ed027's Note - me too mate

01 Aug 2013 17:47:15
Welcome home this weekend Emmanuel Eboue

Loves this club as much as we do

Hope the fans welcome him properly, he deserves it

I'm going there on Sunday, and I'll be singing his name.
Flybo

01 Aug 2013 21:24:45
Still don't know to this day why he was sold I think more athletic than Sagan IMHO

Gooner74

01 Aug 2013 17:38:52
as I expected (and so far being right) no new signings are going to happen except for Sanogo. that whole Suarez story is a BS to brainwash supporters that the club tried and put a bid. but even if Pool would have accept that bid, the whole move would NOT happen -AW would offer something like 50k wages which Suarez would snub. Suarez is too difficult to control on the pitch plus 6 games ban will not be playing till October -CL only possibility so why really AW would want him not knowing when the next outburst can happen?
looking at TH signings I am very concern about our chances to finish in top 4 next year (and even if WE do finish 4th is it going to be another open bus city parade for finishing way behind chelski, mu and mc - is that the maximum that team can produce?).
they (TH) are strengthening their weakest positions spend 48M - 8M = 40M and would not be surprised if next signing (after Bale with money left) will be Shaw in - Ekotto out and after that someone like Felliani, Eriksen, Leandro Damiao or Cabaye. 2 players from above even maybe. with that squad forget being above them next year.
on the other hand We made another profit of 3M. but do not worry it will be bigger.
soon same old dream on story and tales about "We have the spirit and the quality". it is going to be another painful season w/o happy ending as I see it.
hope I am wrong and AW has some aces in his sleeve but I doubt it

01 Aug 2013 17:25:02
Saw a website headline this pm which said that Suarez had been sold to either Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, with an announcement "imminent".
I then saw the website name consisted of a way of getting out at cricket and a type of infringement which stops a game of football.
Then I wished I had paid a bit more attention when clicking the headline.

{Ed022's Note - That particular website would indeed but completely pointless and I wouldn't pay attention to it.}

I don't know they said arsenal would get suarez, who knows

Bergkamp5353

{Ed022's Note - So this website have said that Arsenal, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have signed or will sign Luis Suarez. Wow. Words fail me. In that case, I am an editor for the wrong site!}

01 Aug 2013 16:51:10
ER. sorry about this.


understand there's and ArsenalRumours fantasy football league -

anyone have the pin/login


moochoss grassyarse.

I set 1 up but there is another

424809-131299
Fantasy. premierleague. com

Cheers.

Original AG

I am awful at FF. Truly. I look forward to joining and then running around cheering when I log in to find i'm not worst, but second-worst! Bring it.

I am awful at FF. Truly. I look forward to joining and then running around cheering when I log in to find i'm not worst, but second-worst! Bring it.

01 Aug 2013 16:45:34
on the arsenal official face book page - send picture of your self in new away kit and have picture posted on website. Over 500 replies 90% asking Mr Wenger to spend some money before asking us to empty our pockets! its one way to protest.

01 Aug 2013 16:37:41
With that fella from one direction signing for Doncaster and us having no luck in actually signing anyone that plays football, what celeb should we sign instead and why? {Ed027's Note - Mo Farah, because he's awesome

Vanessa Feltz. So we can shove it in goal.
Flybo

I feel raymond blanc would be a wengeresque signing, he's below 5'11 isn't he

Bergkamp5353

Axl rose closest thing to suarez outside football

I would rather Usain Bolt then Gervinho or Santos.

Hi, Flybo! awesome :) haha couldn't stop smiling after reading this.
COYG andi:)

Id have to go for the queen. she supports arsenal and would add to our british core. plus she would have a bunch of security guards around her on the pitch so no one could tackle her

hamilton

Cheers andi.
Flybo

Chuck Norris the ball would put itself in the goal!!

Flyboy that's the funniest thing I've heard for a while

The word 'it' means the difference between me reading a comment and moving on, and me reading a comment and laughing about it hours or even days later, which I will. Thanks Flybo, for making me look mental when I go out in public!

01 Aug 2013 16:24:04
I am so glad it's not just me who hates RVP more than Nasri for leaving. I don't even know why. But I do, so nice to see I'm not alone!

Wasted a horses placenta on Schofield.
Nasri and the other one was to be expected. If you want to know how they'll leave, look at how they join.
Bendtner being the exception as we've got him for life.
Flybo

Schofield that's the best thing I heard him be called haha love it

I don't get the Schofield thing

{Ed022's Note - With his grey hair RVP = Philip Schofield...}

01 Aug 2013 16:10:43
Just seen the John Cross article in the mirror re Arsene being solely responsible for the current lack of transfer activity, which I think we all knew was the case anyway. Firstly, as far as Arsenes concerned I sit very much on the fence in regards to his position. For the want of not wanting to sound negative it's hard to ignore Arsenes ego. I think we would have to be a little naive to think that he will splash all the cash. Bottom line is I always couldn't help thinking that Arsene probably sees this as his best time to 'not spend big money' due to positions of the other top teams and the managerial changes, rather than seeing it the other way in terms of spending the money and we will be competing. End of the day the point I'm making is what Arsene gets out if it is what matters to him. To win the league not spending ridiculous money elevates him to a new level, to spend the money and compete and win the league would make him a par with all the things he detests such as city, mourinho etc and the big spenders. will he change? NO so we can only hope he 'adapts' to some changes. Such as transfer fees and wages.

You only have to hear him in interviews, it's what he's won in the past and not what Arsenal won. His statements re 'special player gives fans hope' and being questioned by fans on substitutions. Oh and the best quote I ever heard' I am determined to prove Fabianski is the keeper I see everyday in training'. Therefore it didn't matter how many points we dropped because of errors, which we did those few years back, as long as the point was proved.

That my friends is what we are dealing with, so although we have a decent squad, the time is now to add that 'super' quality, so hears hoping Arsene 'adapts'. and quick!

Wenger sounds like an ageing, wounded dog, who has had his day. The squad looks woefully short and I can't see him making the necessary signings. I can't believe he is unaware of the lift top quality signings bring to the club, the players & the supporters. We have huge financial reserves, well in excess of the 'mystical', much talked about £70m. Wenger up to 2005 was superb, since then it has been a slow decline, with no trophies, a failed youth policy that has brought no more young talent through than any of the top clubs and once they emerge as talents that depart for sunnier climes. His 'socialist' wage policy has been a nightmare, leaving us with overpaid players on long contracts that are simply unsalable. There been signings that have failed; Santos, Park, Gervinho, Arshavin, Denilson, Chamakh & lots of others that I have forgotten. Perhaps, the true strength of Wenger were Dein & Fiszman. Time for him to depart and bring in Laudrup.

01 Aug 2013 16:01:22
It's been 74 days since the end of the season, the new season starts in 16 days and July has passed and arsenal have sign just Sanogo.

Like every year we had all the talk of good intentions, there is money to spend we can match teams etc, but we have nothing to show for it. I can understand that there is some difficulty in terms of signing Suarez, Liverpool want some big money. But we still need a defensive midfielder a goalkeeper and if Gervinho leaves another winger, the delay in signing a striker can't be an excuse for not adding other players to the squad, we seem to have fixated on this one signing and nothing else. We've seen Wanyama go to Southampton, Paulinho has joined Spurs and now they look like adding Soldado, there are deals happening, so we can't make excuses.

I thought is year was going to be different, we would have marque signings, was hoping that we would do some of our business early get the players settled into the team and ready for the new season. We've also seen two of our targets Jovetic and Higuain join other clubs whatever the reason was, one of them will be at the Emirates Cup. We've already seen that turn in to a spectacular PR failure when the club asked fans to tweet what player they were most excited to see and Higuain was the resounding response. I don't know if anyone remembers the atmosphere at the last Emirates cup, chants of spend some f***ing money, boos at the final whistle after loosing the cup, you could sense something among the fans. I didn't buy tickets to attend this year and I'm glad I didn't you can feel that same sense of annoyance and discontent building with the fans again.

The latest rumours for the reason of no signings is a split in the boardroom, I don't know how true it is. The Fabregas United move which we all knew wasn't happening also provided a nice distraction while nothing happened at the Emirates and fans got caught up in that. We are sitting on a huge sum of money it isn't Wenger's and it isn't Gazidis'. It also isn't the fans, despite the fact we pay huge ticket prices merchandise etc so I don't care anymore how much we have to spend to get players in, but we do have a right to see the club make use of its resources. So if we really want Suarez why not spend 50 million and get him if we really want Lars Bender pay what Leverkusen want Chelsea had to do it with Schurrle. I don't like the way football is going but prices are rising and we can't keep taking the moral high ground. If we pay what is needed this season get the players in then we can go back to our old ways and financial fair play will also be in action, but we will also have added the big purchases to the squad and not have to worry about doing it again or breaking any rules the squad will just need small changes and improvements.

I'm tired of the excuses we have money, this squad barely got 4th last year while I was happy to get it, we can't forget how close we came to missing out and get caught up in beating spurs to 4th, we need additions if it we are going to move forward. Things need to change, I've heard fans say that United haven't signed anyone yet so what's the big worry, their Squad won them the premier league, with our ex captain scoring the goals that got them that title. City, Chelsea and Spurs on the other hand have all added to their teams. I've patiently waited each year because the promise always was that in the future we would have money, while I saw our best players leave. I'm tired of it now we have no reason not to be adding to the squad. I don't know what needs to change but something does and this is the last summer I will stand for this, not that there is anything I can do alone. I Hope that this post has made some sense and I apologise for its length, and I can assure you I am a true fan all I care about is the club and seeing it move forward.

Spot on!

I believe the club needs to drop this pseudo-moral BS. If they aren't prepared to spend at going market rates then they shouldn't be hypocritical enough to extort sugar daddy money out of City all the time. Let alone the most expensive tickets ever. What a JOKE. Don't talk about class then rob your fans and act the hypocrites. If you don't like the money in the game then don't charge like you do when selling players and tickets.

Beautifully put. Most Gooners would agree I'm sure. I should know better, but I've lived and breathed this club since 1952 and at 67 I still think I'm 25 watching the '71 Double unfold! Arsenal were up there.
Battles against the Mancs, Leeds. spurs the Scousers etc. We were equals or better, but now I have a sinking feeling when I scour the sites. Arsene was great, but I'm afraid he's lost it! His ego has landed (pun). I can't see him changing. Why did he ever go for an economics degree? Why not swot for History, or Law or even Media F. ng studies! The squad needs refreshing. Why would you not buy? I think he's scared to fail. Reluctantly going on saturday and hoping for something to cheer myself up.
Oh well back to the sunbed. Tea please darling!. Hard life for some.

Well said everyone, let's not forget we struggled to 4th with 14 more players! I think things are happening behind the scenes re wengers position.

Ed I posted this whilst logged in but my name hasn't appeared, this has happened to me before does the site log you out if you are inactive? I took a phone call whilst in the middle of typing this could that be the reason?

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01 Aug 2013 15:34:37
Without injured players, those likely to depart and youngsters not yet read for the 1st team, we have the following:
G: Szczesny & Fabianski.
FB: Sagna, Jenkinson & Gibbs
CB: Mertesacker & Koscielny
DM: Arteta, Wilshere & Ramsey
CM: Ox, Cazorla & Rosicky
WM: Walcott & Podolski
F: Giroud

That is 16 players! If we suffer any injuries in the remaining 3 friendlies, we are stuffed.

Yes, we have Abu Diaby in December, Vermaelen in 3 months & Monreal, hopefully back soon.

We have youngsters such as Sanogo & Gnabry, who may play.

I am starting to hope that Frimpong & Bendtner are added to the squad, which is pretty desperate.

Time for Wenger & Gazidis to leave.

{Ed022's Note - I understand what you're saying and I am sure Wenger will "fill the gaps" in the squad come Sept 2nd. A lot of the kids who played on the Asian Tour will again get their chance, not least Sanago who you missed out of your squad list.}

I am not at all sure Wenger will fill the holes in the squad. I omitted Sonago, as it is yet to be seen if he will join the first team squad, dpnt forget what Wenger has done with Eisfeld who looks a decent footballer, is older than Sonago & yet has hardly been used in the first team. In respect of the other youngsters, only Gnabry looks physically ready for the rigours of premiership football.

{Ed022's Note - I would say that he'd (Sanogo) will play some part this weekend and Wenger will assess him based on that...Gnabry let's not forget has played PL and Champions League football}

We should erect a big wooden "T" out the emirates and set it on fire. The point will be quite clear - TIME TO LEAVE!
AG

{Ed022's Note - Putting up a big T outside the Emirates could mean a hell of a lot of things... Trophies, Transfers, Tickets... TIME TO LEAVE wouldn't be what would spring to mind personally...}

Yeah come on AG, need a little rethink there :D

But the gist is good haha

Obviously not South Park fans. {Ed022's Note - Nope. I like women not cartoons...}

01 Aug 2013 15:26:57
Bernard come out and said money isn't a factor in his decision where to move, sounds ideal for scrimping wenger!

Mark {Ed022's Note - He also wants to join Porto as he feels he's more likely to play in the first team leading up to the World Cup...}

01 Aug 2013 15:11:35
Eds, any of u guys hangin out wit Arsene Wenger/watchin it. On th Google Hangout wit Arsene Wenger? If so than fill us in wit some questions/answers afterwards? {Ed027's Note - i'm not mate, but i'm sure I can get you a script later on

Thanxxx a lot ed. Wil b waitin.

01 Aug 2013 12:39:54
question for ed01
Ed01 a while ago u said usmanov will launch bid to takeover arsenal do you have any news relating to that?thanx {Ed027's Note - no mate, 20 shares were traded yesterday, it was not Kroenke, and Timp Payton says it is not Usmanov, interesting times

Ed how many shares are there? Is 20 shares a big amount?

{Ed022's Note - There are approximately 62,227 shares in Arsenal Football Club. Stan Kronke owns 66.64% (about 41,468 shares) Usmanov owns 29.11% of the shares which equates to roughly 18,114 shares. The are 4.25% shares left in the club which is around 2,644 shares. 20 shares, if my maths is correct, equates to 0.03% So in answer to your question. No. Not a lot!}

Haha thanks v much for that Ed. I didn't think 20 shares was anything to get excited about at all, in fact it's totally meaningless at this moment. Someone wake me up when someone buys something verging on a whole number %-wise.

{Ed022's Note - Glad I could help! With my awesome mental maths skills I can tell you that a whole 1 percent in shares would equate to about 622.27 shares. Then you can start getting excited...}

01 Aug 2013 09:45:34
Eds is it possible to create a poll for the striker arsenal fans would like most at arsenal out of Suarez, Rooney, Ibra, Aguero, Lewandowski, Dzeko? Thanks {Ed027's Note - done, vote!

01 Aug 2013 09:10:39
Poll eds? Wenger moyes mouriniho or pelligrini as arsenal manager {Ed027's Note - done mate, vote!

01 Aug 2013 15:08:13
My nerves turned to anguish now slowly into anger! {Ed022's Note - Deep breathing exercises...}

01 Aug 2013 14:35:37
Th only way we r ganna win somethin this year or next is to stop comparin ourselves wit spurs (time & time again we proved that we r better than them). & not worry bout th average (quality) players they sign. We should compare ourselves wit the 3 teams above us & how we'll beat them to win a trophy. If we sign Suarez than we cares if thy sign Soldado. I wanna see us sign someone fast but yet again I don't want us to buy an average player. So if Suarez drags on th whole transfere season & end up at th emirates. Than I really don't give a damn. Sorry 4 th long post fellow gunners.

01 Aug 2013 14:24:15
WoW. I cannot believe how many negative posts are being posted recently.
We should all consider the facts that we have sold/released most of the unwanted players, and have not sold ANY first team players.
And then you have the clear indication to make signings, by making bids for Suarez twice with the second supposed to activate a certain clause.
A bid for higuain was in place only for Madrid to be *****s and increase the fee. Personally I don't think he was worth anything more than £20mil.
Then you have the offer of £20mil being turned down for Lars bender, which I was surprised by, simply because they sold schurlle for a lower fee.
There is still plenty of time for things to change, whether we make signings early or late doesn't bother me as long as we make the signings needed, which I believe we will. We just got wait and see I guess.
Waq

I can't believe u thing Higuain is worth £20m. When Soldado went for 26. A player is worth what the club are willing to spend and how much they need him. Right now Higuain is good value at 40m for Arsenal

We have a squad woefully short of experienced, fit first team players. If you look at the first team squad on the official Arsenal site, take out injured players, those likely to depart & those that are injured, our squad is very weak numerically, needing 5 experienced quality players as a matter of urgency. Yes, we have some young talented players, but the only two physically ready to step up to the first team squad are Gnabry & Eisfeld (who for some reason Wenger ignores). The trouble is Wenger has continued down this path, since Dein & Fiszman departed. It hasn't worked and we need signings urgently. It almost as if Wenger is suffering from dementia. I would love to see him replaced by Laudrup, Gazidis replaced by Dein & Kronke sell to Usmanov. I want to see us compete again.

01 Aug 2013 14:05:51
is the emirates cup gunna be on tv and what channel {Ed022's Note - The Emirates cup is not being shown live on tv this year as far as I am aware...}

Hi all it's on BT sport {Ed022's Note - Yeah just checked myself and its on BT Sport 1 HD}

It is Live on BT sport, but I am not sure if there will be any streams

--YoungGunner

01 Aug 2013 13:27:04
Very sad to here the news of Kenny Sansom fallen on hard times. Kenny has had a problem with drink for a few years now, and going by media reports has found himself sleeping on park benches.
Kenny was a magnificent R. B. His nickname was "White-shorts, as his balance and positional play was so good he never had to make any last ditch sliding tackles.
314 appearances for the Arsenal with 86 England caps.

I know it's not the job of football clubs to look after players once they've retired, or are no longer part of the club, but it would be nice if the club in some way could help out a club legend (voted 36 in the top 50 players of all time on Arsenal. com).
I wouldn't be surprised if Tony Adams's charity "A Sporting Chance" will give him some support, but it would be nice to know that our club can give him a help in hand as well.

We like to think of our club going about things in a classy way. Let's send a bit of that class in Kennys direction.

P. S
Happy Birthday to Kanu!
A cult legend. Just remembering his third goal at Stamford bridge. Was a super-sub back in the day. Would walk straight in to the team today.
Flybo {Ed022's Note - Very sad to hear about Kenny Samson and we hope that he is back on his feet soon...}

01 Aug 2013 13:18:37
Have just read that Bayern Munich are considering moving for Suarez it also states that RM are looking at making an offer but not sure they will risk losing out on Bale.


I am at the Emirates Cup this weekend and was lead to believe that Bergkamp will be there, Hopefully he will be joining the coaching staff. {Ed022's Note - It has been rumoured for a while but it all depends on his club Ajax and to if, how and when he joins the coaching staff...}

Sanchez? {Ed022's Note - Well either way with SuareZ with a Z or SancheZ, also with a Z, they have their bases covered. Either way, I am going for a cold beer and a lie down in a darkened room... haha}

01 Aug 2013 12:57:07
I don't post on here that much. However, with our inability to complete any transfer deals I feel compelled to give my two pence worth before I go to the emirates cup! I will be watching the Napoli game, depressed at our inability to sign the Hig! I feel he is exactly what we are crying out for. A mobile, fast paced centre forward with a great eye for goal who can work off Giroud. Of course you can argue Theo is this but we all know Wenger prefers to keep him on the wing.

So we moved onto LS (the hungry racist) as I call him. Another great forward with pace and an eye for goal. The main difference being LS creates his own chances as much as latching onto assists. A great quality and a real game changer at times. However his other qualities are less desirable. The Hig went for 31M or there abouts. We have bid 40M for LS and I think we all know that will need to rise if Liverpool are to sell to us. Is LS really worth the 15 possibly 20m extra than Hig? In Hig we had a player that wanted to come to us, accepted a reasonable salary and doesn't come with any bans/off field issues.

I know RM moved the goal posts at the last minute and asked for more cash but we should have paid what RM wanted and got the striker we needed. We knew there were not many other strikers around and so did RM. I know it's easy to say "pay the extra 8M" from behind a keyboard but I truly believe he would have repaid that extra money in goals and hopefully cups. Now we are left in a position of spend 50m on LS or find an unknown, world class player that no other team has spotted. Wenger has done it a few times in the past but he seems to getting it wrong more often than not now. Unless Wenger has got a sneaky plan for A-Sanchez (all will be forgiven if this happens).

My point to Wenger (Arsenal) is. Clubs will do this from time to time. I know we don't want to look like we are getting bullied by the "bigger" boys. I am sure we have done this on the numerous world class players we have sold in recent years. When we did this to Man U for RVP, Man City for Nasri or Barca for Cesc, sure they paid over what they wanted to but come the end of the season, every one of those teams had a trophy and all is forgiven. Not to mention they made those extra millions back. At the end of the day Wenger (Arsenal), if you want to announce you are ready to swim in the big pool with the big boys. You need to step up and realise you may get splashed or dunked a few times! We are not bidding for class players any more, we are bidding for world class and you need to pay for that!

Peo01 Aug 2013 12:36:56
Why do people feel the need to comment on other teams buying players and making comments about how we should go for them?

Why by Soldado when we have Giroud? both similar players and if Giroud takes the form from pre season into the start of next season happy days. When Wenger said he was looking for a striker he didn't mean a like for like replacement for Giroud he wanted something different, a different style of player hence Suarez.

I also don't know why people are complaining about the lack of signings. we only have a squad of 16 minus youths so he will bring players in. maybe they won't be 'Marquee' but we are not after a players name we are after the quality they bring to the team. I have a lot of faith in Ramsey ahead of this season and I think he is going to be a revelation this year and with ox looking good behind in the advanced role I expect him and santi to switch.

We have a lot to be optimistic about the squad is not big but it will be added to! {Ed022's Note - People are understandably frustrated at the lack of activity and vented their feelings on here.}{

01 Aug 2013 12:23:22
As much as I hate to say this, I wish we had finished outside the Top 4 and honestly below Spurs. Probably that would have caused enough turmoil for the board and Wenger to act.

As of now all it seems is that we are waiting for a result like 8-2 against Man U to sign a few players on the last day of the window.

01 Aug 2013 11:46:13
Now I am really getting nervous / angry
It seems the spurs have agreed terms with Velencia for Solgano (hope spelling is correct)
Why can we organise a simple purchase. all the marquee signings have or are already tied up.
If Suarez happens it will be a last minute deal. so who else are we going for.
Before the start of the transfer window we were boasting about our 70mil war chest and we will break our transfer record 3 times.
the only thing I nthink we have broken. is some of our supporters hopes.
This season the league is up for grabs. and we still cannot get our house in order
It seems like our negotiators are like the person from Die Hard 1. who negotiates 1million pound deals for breakfast. then gets killed
Mr Wenger please sort this out NOW as this is the season that you need to pay the fans back for the last 8 years.

a very worried Highbury Old Timer

Seriously so called fans need to take a chill pill.
no one is forcing you to support Arsenal if you don't like the way they operate then go and support another club.
why should arsenal react to rubbsih in the papers and to demands of deluded fans who know nothing about how to put a team together or running a big club like arsenal.
support your team or go elsewhere imo

01 Aug 2013 11:19:02
Having given up on the 'let's sell our best players' routine - Arsenal have alighted on 'let's look like bumbling, amateur losers' in our transfer attempts. Seriously, how do we convince top tier players to come to the Emirates when the message we give out is wrong?

01 Aug 2013 11:15:11
Do anyone know if Leandro damiao is a realistiv target for us? He was very good last year, but haven't seen him for a while, and he wasn't part of the conf XI. Spurs were after him but clearly they have gone on to Soldado and with cash to splash we could get him.

Do you guys knows if there's a third party ownership or some other difficulties with a transfer? {Ed022's Note - Damiao has never really been an Arsenal transfer target and I feel that Arsene has his eyes on other targets}

01 Aug 2013 11:24:26
If it turns out we been lied to again and we buy no one I think it will be time for a boycott. Starting with the emrites cup.
Every year at the start. of the window we are told all this bull about spending money and we ready to compete with the best.

Show the board wenger they are nothing with out us they need to spend or f off.

I have tickets for the cup as I belived all the rubbish about signing players at the start of the window

If we stand up together we can change the way we are run

Every year we are taking for mugs and I have had enough

Spanner
Que all the rubbish commets that I am not a true fan

01 Aug 2013 11:15:11
Do anyone know if Leandro damiao is a realistiv target for us? He was very good last year, but haven't seen him for a while, and he wasn't part of the conf XI. Spurs were after him but clearly they have gone on to Soldado and with cash to splash we could get him.

Do you guys knows if there's a third party ownership or some other difficulties with a transfer? {Ed007's Note - The third party ownership would be a major stumbling block IMO.}

01 Aug 2013 10:01:54
Starting to see reports confirming what I long suspected in that Arsenal transfer targets are part of the internal power battles within the club.

Basic summary - all the big name we are linked with are given to Wenger by the board to go in for to bolster against the Russian who is trying to use fans frustrations as leverage.

These targets are against Wengers instincts and the American is 100% behind him, so they just don't happen.

Don't expect to see big names with inflated salaries whilst the club is being pulled in two directions like his. There will be signings, but he usual Wenger type ones.

Depressing explanation on our transfer policy being played out in the media at the moment. {Ed001's Note - I thought the Arsenal board no longer had any shares and so no power? I am sure I read that it was only Kroenke on the board that had shares now.}

01 Aug 2013 11:48:33
I'm sure your right about the shares, but the board is there for reason I suppose. I think the point being made is that the board is there for public perceptions about policy while behind the scenes the real power has no interest in splashing out big just for the sake of it.

I'm sure Kroenke and Usmanov have bought out all members of the board and own almost all shares between then with a very small minority in supporters hands.

G95

01 Aug 2013 11:48:33
I'm sure your right about the shares, but the board is there for reason I suppose. I think the point being made is that the board is there for public perceptions about policy while behind the scenes the real power has no interest in splashing out big just for the sake of it.

I'm sure Kroenke and Usmanov have bought out all members of the board and own almost all shares between then with a very small minority in supporters hands.

G95

I have a fealing you're right and that if wenger had been left to get on with things in his usual manner we would have signed some very exciting talent already that could of helped us do well next year. I'm still optimistic (as always)

Saint arsenal

Not sure what this has to do with shares? Everyone knows SK bought everyone out. The problem is SK says he leaves the running of the club to the board but he doesn't sanction high transfers into the club.

This story doesn't surprise me at all. The board know what needs to happen, have said the money is there a million times, but then say it's up to Wenger to spend it. I don't even know if our board and Levy combined are even capable of identifying good players. Our scouting system is a waste of time as Wenger never pays any attention to it.

We heard it was Stan who wanted the money for Nasri, but Wenger wanted to keep him. We heard it was Stan who told Wenger to sell RVP to the highest bidder regardless of the socio-political impacts on our club (handing our fiercest rival the title and all the baggage which comes with having to face the flak as fans) as well as losing one of the greatest players in world football.

I have no doubts at all that there is friction between the board, the manager and the owner. SK is not a football fan, not an Arsenal fan, and is in the wrong business. We have a board who know what needs to happen but seem to be unable to get it done. You have Stan willing to spend as little as possible and take any money for players that he can, and then you have Wenger an entity unto himself.

Look at Bayern. 'How can we be one of the world's greatest clubs?' seems to be their modus operandi. Ours seems to be 'how can we get away with doing as little as possible, but maintaining a presence somewhere towards to top end of football. '

01 Aug 2013 09:52:58
Another 32 days!
God this window feels like a life sentence.

01 Aug 2013 09:45:10
Can someone please explain to me why we aren't trying to sign Soloman Kalou. Who is being targeted by West Brom.

Reread that statement, see that it includes the words 'Soloman Kalou', and you'll get your answer.

G95

{Ed022's Note - Because the player in question is Soloman Kalou...}

Maybe because he's pants? Just a thought.

Conor

Is that a joke? {Ed022's Note - Worrying, probably not...}

That doesn't need explaining but because you asked he is tripe.

Bournemouth Gooner {Ed022's Note - Tripe? Long has it been since I have heard someone described as tripe!}

01 Aug 2013 11:10:22
I feel unhappy!

You can get tablets for that.

Have an Ice Cream. Always works for me! {Ed022's Note - Great advice in a barmy 32 degrees!}

01 Aug 2013 10:54:11
Am I the only one who thinks we have missed a trick with Soldado? £26m (or half the Suarez fee you might say!)

Old fashioned centre forward. Big, tall, powerful striker who scored 30 goals in 46 appearances for Valencia last season.

I worry he take Spurs above us!

Wenger sign some quality players!

Giroud will out score next season

Giroud will out score next season {Ed022's Note - I think Giroud will improve on last seasons 17 goals and 10 assists. Still feel we need another striker though...}

Out score him we do need another striker but not this guy we need Suarez agurio or A Sanchez

01 Aug 2013 09:45:06
I would hate to be an Arsenal fan.

Broken promises every year and the most expensive season tickets

I would hate to be a Tottenham fan

Waste money on dud signings (Parker, Saha & Adebayor)

{Ed022's Note - Let's not forget David Bentley for a whopping £17m...}

01 Aug 2013 09:23:02
Our record transfer is 15 mil.

Why would we break our transfer record with a 40-50 mil signing?

You would think that first comes a 20-30, then a 25-35, then maybe a 30-40, right?

Yes we have turned a financial corner, but that doesn't mean we will spend more money just yet. though extra money will just be used to speed up the repaying of the debt process.

Wenger said he is only in the market for top quality. Unfortunately he is only willing to pay what HE thinks the player is worth, and usually what he thinks a player is worth is probably what he got those players for 10 year ago, which is way less than what the going rate is for top quality nowadays.

We are not going to spend that much money on a player any time soon, if ever.

Nick.

Nick,

The repayments on the loan etc for the stadium are in place until 2031. They are pre-agreed and the installments cannot change, nor can lumps sums be paid off if and when money becomes available. This was the agreement when the stadium plans were agreed. Therefore, any "extra cash" knocking about will only be used for transfers, wages and the general running of the club. Not to repay debt or loans in place.

Therefore we still have £70-£100m in reserves to spend on player transfers. This is not to be confused with wages. There is a SEPARATE budget in place for the wage bill.

01 Aug 2013 08:19:04
The fellani deal has gone very quite. for both us and utd. there's 32 days to go. spurs have spent a small fortune. km

I thought his clause ran out today?!

They are also going to receive a small fortune too

1404
Say no to Suarez

Spurs squad is very comparable to ours now after the signings they have made and once Soldado is confirmed they will be a serious threat to 4th. Then imagine if the spend another £50m from the bale sale and we will be left behind.

Wenger must spend now or we will not make 4th.
Just go out and spend £50m on Suarez (yes it is over the odds but missing out on CL will cost us more). Buy Fellaini for £23m and Bernard for £23m. We will then be able to compete for 3rd.
For me City will destroy the premiership this season. {Ed022's Note - Bernard will be joining Porto...}

01 Aug 2013 07:32:22
I understand Arsenal triggered the clause in Fellaini's contract yesterday. News will emerge later.

You're wrong

Tomato sauce?

Sure hope you are right. That would be a great signing

Can't say that I believe that! This came out weeks ago and then went colder than a penguins backside.

Move on, stop recycling old rumours.

However, don't get me wrong, i'd take Fellaini any day of the week after the transfer window so far!

Yeah Malaga already told us that weeks ago, It's common knowledge and bound to happen. Eds poll on changing Malagas username to " The Oracle"?
Willesden Gooner

01 Aug 2013 06:50:28
There is only one man that can can change this shambolic excuse for a board and management team!

Come on Alisher Usmanov use your power and make our club worthy contenders again!

Be careful what you wish for

Paul

What power?

Whats he going to do? Give Wenger more money he won't spend?

Lwi

Lwi is right. It's not like he's got £70m in the bank and won't spend it.

Oh wait.

He has.

Well said lwi

01 Aug 2013 02:09:33
Question for the ed's. If the Suarez bid fails, could you see AW turning his attention to Ibra? I for one would prefer him over Suarez.

G-man {Ed027's Note - never say never, Wenger has always been a fan, but you know Zlatan and Arsenal/Wenger have past

Since when did zlatan goto a club that isn't winning trophies, or paying him an absolute fortune? carry on dreaming boys.

How awesome would that be. i'm swedish so ofcourse I love that guy. And by the way, he's won the league with like every club he's ever played for. Sign him up arsene=) only bad thing is, he is not getting any younger

Ibrahimavic won't come as he hates Wenger for asking him to take a trial!

01 Aug 2013 01:10:29
Just a thought, a stupid one, but with pellegrini coming out and saying dzeko will be the first team striker, and with both negredo and jovetic, where does that leave aguero. Probably same money as suarez, or cheaper fits in to our style like a duck in to water. And is a lot younger. Imagine and it's 3-3 against norwich in the ninetieth minute, chealsea have one there game but if arsenal score they win the league on goal difference, "aguero, on the half way line, past one past two lays it of to wilshere, wilshere to aguero augero to shoot gooooooooooaaaaaaaaaallllllllllll aguerooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo has done it again. News from our other game now and totenham after the sale of gareth bale have been relegated after a penalty was given away and hugo lloris was struck by lightning as the ball was struck.

Bergkamp5353

Aguero is the best striker in that team and City definitely don't need the money.
Would be an absolute dream come true, but that's all it will ever be, a dream : (

I don't know how pel' feels about arsene buying all his players though :P

I was thinking the exact same thing today. Mainly because I heard he wasn't part of pellegrinis plans for a ST, as he prefers the big, strong type of player.
Surely £40mil would be considered. And I agree he's exactly the type of ST we need. Someone who's quick enough to get on to the trough balls, can dribble past players on a regular basis, and score goals out of nothing. A pure match winner.
Waq

You seem to be forgetting that man citeh are not a selling club and wouldn't sell to a potential rival. unlike.

dave

01 Aug 2013 00:01:11
Hi ed, I am a little bit perturbed by the way we bumble aimlessly around the transfer market, without any clear conscise strategy nor direction. Making fanciful bids for Suarez, seemingly on the pretence he is available for forty million. Liverpool's hardball stance has made our prospect of landing him non existent. With the end of season posturings of gazidis, "we can buy anyone if we so wish" and "huge wages are not a problem". Well so far I have seen nothing to suggest the statements are founded on anything but a couple of bud lights and a whopping bonus in his pay packet. Even more alarming is the relative ease spurs are picking up some very good players. Levy is certainly proficient in "doing the deal". The last two years has seen them buy some top players at reasonable prices. Why are they so capable in signing these players, when we haplessly drag out dead deals for an eternity. The Suarez transfer is another embarrassment for arsenal, this deal is now a bigger dodo than any movie starring Steven seagal. You can't tell me paulinhio, dembele, vertonghen, lloris, soldado had dreams of playing for spurs. The people responsible for landing our targets are less convincing than nasty nick cottons claims " I didn't do it ma". While Daniel levy empties real madrids pockets effortlessly, we try desperately to give bendtner and chamakh to anyone who is looking for someone who claims to play football for a living. Hungry hippo

Exactly mate we waste our time and energy trying to flog overated, overpayed, underchieving players that AW has brought and he has not been held accountable for that.
Heybridge Gooner

Great post, well put

The original AG

As far as I am aware Arsenal have said precisely nothing on any transfer so probably best not to believe what you read.

31 Jul 2013 23:39:43
Just checked the official site. again, numbers 2 and 11 are still available, this must mean at least 2 players are coming in. surely. here's hoping, maybe a morale boost before the waste of time/money weekend

I absolute hate people guessing signings based on shirt numbers. Second to that is people worrying about what shirt number potential signings might wear (and then they never arrive). Sorry its pretty stupid.

I expect a defensive signing to take the number 2 although it really bugs me that Sagna is 3 as that's clearly a left backs number! Don't get me started. Its like Gallas wearing the holy number 10 s***. Pretentious little cretin.

I also expect an attacking player to come in and take the 11 shirt.

Now it's just a case of who?

Per is wearing number 2 in training. So its 4 & 11 that are available

01 Aug 2013 00:10:29
Sad fact - we need to let the big spenders feast before we can eat

Be patient - anyone we are interested in will be auctioned off to others as we can't compete with them at present plus a lack of trophies

Our time will come but we have to face facts and still understand we can compete. Pointless getting in a mood with Wenger etc and the famous David Dein would do NO better. In Dein you trust are a little ignorant. He did pretty well out of us and ran his business out of the grounds. Then his son sold all our players.

Nothing against him as he served us well as he created brand Dein. But it's a dog eat dog world out there.

Lets be patient and I am sure they will deliver

SY4

31 Jul 2013 23:44:45
Call me a cynic but with lots of tickets still available for the weekends game, what chance a couple of new signings announced in the next 48hrs to attract bigger crowds.

31 Jul 2013 23:39:06
Lots of the newspapers seem to think that bale's on the move and Ancelotti has comfirmed the two clubs are in talks. Could this be the catalyst to arsenal's summer spending?

Why? if anything, it will see spurs spending a fortune on multiple players due to the windfall they recieve from bale. they are going to be a lot stronger this season. Arsenal have stagnated, again.

31 Jul 2013 23:22:05
Today I was thinking why not go for mario balotelli then I taught no but then he posts "
Tomorrow is 1st August. Only 30 days until Arsenal's transfer window opens. "

Weird or what

He is making fun of us, as in we will not sign anyone and we never do

Haha that's a parody

A parody Balotelli account tweeted that. The real verified Balotelli said no such thing

31 Jul 2013 22:46:43
think wenger has set him self up for a fall because I think he has to sign saurez at all costs or risk a massive backlash from fans and the board