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18 Aug 2016 19:11:34
Crystal Palace have agreed a fee of 32 million for Benteke.
Benteke.
Just let that sink in and then put that into perspective with regards to our transfer policy. We're an absolute joke.
1.) 18 Aug 2016 23:09:57
Isn't that what Liverpool paid for him? Result or what to get their money back.
2.) 18 Aug 2016 23:18:43
So that's 60 odd million over two transfers for maybe ten goals! What a joke.
3.) 18 Aug 2016 23:26:59
Indeed, it shows that we are profit profit profit . As was posted the other day, IG did say we can cope without CL football . A few years of frustration I feel.
4.) 18 Aug 2016 23:30:52
And Wenger won't pay £40m for Lacazette?
5.) 18 Aug 2016 23:41:35
I didn't even think Palace had 32 million to spend.
Go figure.
Still. he's got to be an upgrade to Chamakh at least.
6.) 19 Aug 2016 00:02:04
Xhaka,
G62 is an upgrade on Chamakh.
Only joking 62 :-)
7.) 19 Aug 2016 14:11:35
Mate I feel for Chamack, being rated below me? He ain't that bad surely Dags :-) if he is tell Arsene I'm available to be that older CB he's been talking about getting.
I'm thinking get a 1 year deal at 30k a week initially then go on Twotter and Slag spuds daily be good in the changing room get me self a cheeky 3 year extension at an improved 100k a week then we all share the cash out equally between Eds and regular posters on this page, then hang up me boots get me statue and all without kicking a ball! Jobs a good un
Just need to convince Arsene it's all his own idea because if someone else suggests it it's a non starter :-)
15 Aug 2016 16:22:49
After watching Henry and Souness talk about the clubs transfer policy, one thing really stood out to me.
Henry said how at the end of last season, the club said that the money was there and that we would be able to compete with all of the top clubs financially, and then, weeks before the start of this season, apparently we don't have the money to compete with the top clubs.
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I'm starting to notice a trend here. For the last three summer windows we've gone out and done a bit of business early on, make one marquee signing (Sanchez, Cech, Xhaka) and then nothing for the rest of the window, excluding any deadline day panic buys when the injuries inevitably come rolling in. It's been the same case the last three summer windows.
This leads be to believe that the board are only willing to sanction one senior transfer throughout the whole window (until the injuries hit) for the sole purpose of making an early signing as a sign of intent and ambition from the club, to get the fans to renew their season tickets. Once that's happened, the board have achieved their goals for the summer, the fans are yet again deceived, and the money comes flooding into Stan's pockets. They know most fans are at the end of their ropes, and we know that they see the club as nothing more than a cash cow. Makes a lot of sense really. Fans get excited, spend their money on tickets, shirts and other merchandise, and then come August we're back to square one.
We moved to the new stadium to compete, yet we're less competitive than we ever have been. The stadium generates enough revenue for the club to compete with Europe's elite in the transfer market, yet that revenue is not being reinvested into the club. We have the money to sign whomever we want - but only enough for one player. Oh and now we can't compete with anyone in the transfer market. How convenient you tell us, Mr. Gazidis after we renew our horrendously overpriced season tickets, memberships, and buy this season's home and away jerseys at 50 quid a pop.
Luckily, I live too far away from the Emirates to be able to go to matches, so I'm not so much out of pocket.
In fact I'm not out of pocket at all. I've cancelled my membership, and haven't bought anything Arsenal since the season we signed Ozil. I will always support Arsenal and will never abandon the club, but I refuse to let any of my hard earned money go towards the men in control of the club, who blatantly couldn't give a monkey's toss about the fans, the people to whom they should be grateful for being the reason why they are so hideously wealthy.
I'm done with being lied to.
1.) 15 Aug 2016 20:26:50
Stan kroenke is only a majority share holder
The money in the bank belongs to the club.
2.) 15 Aug 2016 21:33:38
Does it though Malaga? What's to say Kroenke and the other board members aren't embezzling funds from the 'war chest'? This is only speculation, as its not like we have access to the club's books, but with the stadium being paid off and the fans still being made to pay astronomical ticket prices, you have to wonder where the money is going. In the last nine windows we've spent over £200 million less than Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea and both Manchester clubs, and Arsenal is supposedly the seventh richest football club in the world. Richer than Juventus, who were still able to fork out nearly 80 million for Higuain. Richer than Liverpool, who have spent almost 100 million during this window.
Every football fan and his dog know that there should be money available to invest in the squad. Gazidis can't make his mind up as to whether it's there or not. So where is it?
I think we're getting beyond the point of blaming the manager, incompetent as he may be. We need to start asking serious questions of the board. Is there or isn't there money to spend? If there is the can we get some for of tangible evidence that there is? If its not being used to reinforce the squad then where is it going? If there isn't then why not? Before the club can move forward in any way, I think there needs to be a bit more transparency from the board, instead of them constantly telling us one thing and then the complete opposite as and when it suits them.
3.) 15 Aug 2016 21:43:47
There's a reason that the Ed's advise to keep talking about the money side of football to a minimum.
4.) 15 Aug 2016 21:51:32
We do have access to the clubs books
There's an AGM every year
Did you know Wenger had the final say on Gazidas employment
Wenger has the final say on everything.
5.) 15 Aug 2016 22:02:36
Everyone has access to the books - they are freely available on Arsenal's own site - google it, they really are not hard to find.
Stop with the conspiracy of this so called "warchest" being used as the board members personal piggy bank, the cash reported in the accounts will be backed by independent confirmations from Arsenal's bankers. Deloitte, who are our current auditors, then sign that balance off.
If the club doesn't spend the money, that's a club decision. Yes, there have been mixed messages with regards to what we can spend but that doesn't mean that within the space of a few weeks, the club has lost £200 odd million down the back of the sofa.
If Arsenal do not spend the money, there is very much a decision behind that.
6.) 15 Aug 2016 22:12:51
I'm absolutely sure every penny is very accountable and as it should be, I think we're within our rights to question the clubs ambitions but not their integrity without very good reason to do so.
7.) 15 Aug 2016 22:39:50
Okay, I may have made a few misinformed points there. My bad. It just doesn't add up though. At the end of last season, the money is there, enough to compete with the rest of the big clubs in europe. The start of this season we spend £34 million and now we can't compete, while clubs with less financial power continue to outspend us.
If there is a decision behind it like you say, Joker. Then we as fans, the people who put more money into the club than anyone else, have a right to know what that decision is, rather than being fed the ambiguous nonsense that Wenger and Gazidis keep spewing out.
G62. I believe that we are well within our right to question the integrity of individuals who tell people one thing and do the exact opposite, or to tell people the complete opposite a number of weeks/ months down the line. Even if there is fiscal transparency within the club, I feel we're still having the wool pulled over our eyes, in some way, shape, or form.
8.) 15 Aug 2016 22:56:39
I don't call Xhaka a marquee signing.
9.) 15 Aug 2016 23:19:10
Xhaka is not a marquee signing. Potential but not marquee.
10.) 15 Aug 2016 23:47:21
At £34m that makes him the third most expensive player we've ever signed. It makes sense to think that Wenger and the board view it as a marquee signing even if none of the fans do. Either way, spending that amount so early in the window is a pretty strong statement, which once again has not been followed through on.
14 Aug 2016 18:34:47
Hey guys! New poster here, and being a long time Arsenal fan, i think its only fitting that my first post come on the back of another disappointing loss to open the season.
In all honesty, I'm not surprised. If anything I was more surprised that we went a goal up, and that it was Walcott of all people to score it. Then unsurprisingly, after a good spell which lasted all of three minutes, we went into Arsenal mode and took our foot off the pedal. Though you could argue it was a very soft free kick, I knew we'd lose the second that free kick hit the back of the net, and I knew we'd get stomped on. I didn't expect the rally after the fourth goal, but that's inconsequential at this point.
I genuinely believe that Wenger could make two or three world class signings (which he won't) before the end of the window, and we'd still only finish fourth at the very best. The mentality just isn't there for us to push to the very limits when it counts, and we shouldn't need to go 4-1 down for there to finally be some urgency to our play. There's no fight in the team, no sense of passion. Today we were as mentally weak as the squad that the manager fielded. I believe that this mentality, or lack thereof, is down to the manager, and it seems to me that he would rather coddle the players and treat them like his grandkids rather than adult, professional athletes competing at the highest level of their sport. I mean you don't see any other France internationals on an 'extended break'. Great idea to give our only fit senior striker and centre back extra time off when a blind man can see that we needed them desperately today.
We could have the best squad in the world, but without a manager to instil that fighting spirit and winning mentality, we're just going to stagnate in 4th place obscurity, and let's not even mention the fact that the starting 11 today was an absolute joke. The three players that should have started came on as subs and immediately changed the game. If they had started maybe I wouldn't be on my sofa, nursing and Arsenal induced headache, typing this rant/ essay.
There are many problems at this club that need to be addressed, but I believe that, to make progress, the best place to start is with the manager. He past his prime years ago, makes horrendous tactical decisions, coddles the players, refuses to accept that the game on and off the field has changed.
Rant over.
1.) 14 Aug 2016 18:56:14
Look at Klopp. He has so much drive and passion. He celebrated every goal as if it were a cup final! And look at the relationship he has with his players, there's so much camaraderie, and mutual respect between them. The guy gives off so Manu positive vibes on the sidelines and you can tell that the players play FOR him rather than UNDER him.
All Wenger does is grump on the bench with Steve Bould. I can't even remember the last time I saw any glimpse of there being so much as an ember in his belly. He doesn't even look like he cares any more.
If I could choose between the two of them I wouldn't need to think twice.
2.) 14 Aug 2016 19:00:53
Good post mate why we rested players I don't know lots of other teams are playing there's they get paid very well and have a great life it's a joke they get time off.
3.) 14 Aug 2016 19:01:23
Great first post that mate, hard to disagree with any of that.
Welcome aboard.
4.) 14 Aug 2016 19:02:15
United fan here. You guys do need signings, a world class CB, Mahrez and Lacazette and you'd have a fantastic 1st 11 on paper. That being said Arsene doesn't seem to be able to turn very good prospects into great players anymore. Wilshere, Ramsey, Walcott, Ox even Wellbeck all had bags of potential but haven't achieved it on a consistent basis. Maybe that's due to injuries, not getting a run of games or being played out of position, I don't know.
I think a lot of teams are mentally weak and lack leaders these days. When you think back to Adams and Viera for u guys or Keane and Bruce for us they were great leaders who got the best out of those around them but there were leaders all over the pitch for both teams. Those kind of players are very rare these days. I wouldn't say there is a standout leader at United or Arsenal.
If you don't make 2 or 3 top signings I think you could be in for a very rough season. If you do sign them can Arsene compete with Pep, Jose, Conte and Klopp anymore? I really don't know.
5.) 14 Aug 2016 19:30:49
Great non offensive post. couldn't agree more.
6.) 14 Aug 2016 19:56:31
The selection was off today. It was always going to be risk playing both Holding and Chambers although Holding did not do too bad. I think Monreal should he been used a CB alongside Holding for experience. Chambers needs a loan out once we get a CB.
Strange why Xkaha and Cazorla did not start, Ramsey was off the pace.
Sanchez is not a CF that is clear to see we would have been better using Akpom or even Iwobi for more physicality.
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20 Aug 2016 13:18:20
G62, you are spot on man! Top managers need to be ruthless in this day and age and have to be willing to drop players if they are playing poorly, or if someone better comes along. The fact that Wenger isn't, and would rather Arsenal be the good mates primary school club where everyone gets a turn and winning or losing doesn't matter as long as you play and try your best shows a complete lack of professionalism from him.
You're bang on about the mentality as well! I think the adage 'Complacency is the enemy of success" applies to our players.
I can the the squad undergoing a massive overhaul when we finally get a new manager in charge.
18 Aug 2016 23:41:35
I didn't even think Palace had 32 million to spend.
Go figure.
Still. he's got to be an upgrade to Chamakh at least.
18 Aug 2016 11:34:24
The thing that really grinds me is that Wenger is an Economics graduate, yet he seems to have the least understanding of the transfer market of any manager in Europe. Every fan and his dog could predict that the market was going to end up this way, maybe even as early as Figo or Zidane moving to Real Madrid.
Clubs with money come in with obscene bids for the world's best players, destabilising the market and thereby increasing the perceived value of players of a similar class.
With clubs like Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich, Man United, in the fold with a constant flow of hideous amounts of wealth, the transfer market will always be as unstable and unpredictable as it is now, even if Abaramovic and City's oil men get bored and decide to do one. Wenger, with his degree/ masters in economics can't see this, yet a music college drop-out can.
15 Aug 2016 23:47:21
At £34m that makes him the third most expensive player we've ever signed. It makes sense to think that Wenger and the board view it as a marquee signing even if none of the fans do. Either way, spending that amount so early in the window is a pretty strong statement, which once again has not been followed through on.
15 Aug 2016 22:39:50
Okay, I may have made a few misinformed points there. My bad. It just doesn't add up though. At the end of last season, the money is there, enough to compete with the rest of the big clubs in europe. The start of this season we spend £34 million and now we can't compete, while clubs with less financial power continue to outspend us.
If there is a decision behind it like you say, Joker. Then we as fans, the people who put more money into the club than anyone else, have a right to know what that decision is, rather than being fed the ambiguous nonsense that Wenger and Gazidis keep spewing out.
G62. I believe that we are well within our right to question the integrity of individuals who tell people one thing and do the exact opposite, or to tell people the complete opposite a number of weeks/ months down the line. Even if there is fiscal transparency within the club, I feel we're still having the wool pulled over our eyes, in some way, shape, or form.