Arsenal Banter Archive July 21 2017

21 Jul 2017 22:37:59
Think we all love a player that genuinely loves the club rather than just kisses the badge right?
So IMO Sanchez and his crazy wage demands can just leave preferably abroad. Use the money wisely, replace properly. TBH who thought Sanchez was the player is when he was at on Barcelona's bench?
Credit is due to AW there BTW.

I've been supporting Arsenal since the 70's and have seen some dross in my time, some good times too (most of them under AW as manager) although the '79 cup final is still one of my highlights :)
My point is, support the team and provide positive vibes not bullshit moaning like you deserve to be watching ballet every week.

So, back to Sanchez. If you wanna moan and be a prick, best you do one IMO.
For me NO-ONE is irreplaceable, we are Arsenal!
The best players are the ones who want to play for the club. Bergkamp, Henry, Brady, even Scyescny!

If we take a good positive squad into the new season with good support behind the team like back at Highbury we can push for the league. If the fans get on the teams and AW back then it can all go to shit. Do we really need Sanchez being a dick, as good a footballer as he is?!

Who knows.

21 Jul 2017 23:26:48
Didn't Henry go to Barcelona? Just saying.
Arsenals ambition hasn't matched Sanchez ambition during his time with the club but still he's been head and shoulders our best player since he arrived, do we really need to part as enemy's? Rather than with mutual respect?

22 Jul 2017 00:33:32
You aren't suggesting there's a bit of a theme gunner are you.

22 Jul 2017 02:51:29
Sanchez is pure class, but he craves being the big shot.

I personally think he has a major attitude problem, and he needs to be the centre of attention at all times.

Arsenal needs to bring in a few footballers, rather than the miniature tiki takes he seems to love.

Xhaka to have a storming season this year!

{Ed001's Note - Sanchez does no such thing mate. He does not want to be the centre of attention at all. What he wants is to win trophies, the big trophies, not the 4th place trophy. He wants to be in it to win it, not make up the numbers like Arsenal do in the Champions League. It is frustration at having a bunch of also rans around him, who don't care whether they win or lose. It is the rest that crave the attention, that is why they waste so much time on social media with their idiotic videos, trying to get themselves lots of 'followers' to tell them how great they are. Sanchez doesn't want to be told he is great, he wants to prove he is great, that is the difference.

He should be the player you built around. The winner. The driving force and the best player you have. Instead you will have Danny Bambi on ice Welbeck leading the way to midtable mediocrity, because he is a nice guy who doesn't complain about losing. People like Wilshere will be the hero because he is local, though crap, and will tell people what they want to hear.}

22 Jul 2017 07:03:32
Nice one 01. Well said mate.
For me Sanchez has been carrying the team since he's been there. He works tirelessly on the pitch with little or no equivalent talent around him.

I've said it since Sanchez arrived at Arsenal for what we paid it was a steal! nothing short of that. Arsenal messed up big time last season we should have been clearing out the crap this time last season and built a great team round him. Now that the crap has hit the fan we can't seem to try and spend some money quick enough. Too little too late! .
Seriously! Just step back and take a look at what he has to play with? I'm going to stick my neck out and even say Ozil what's the big fuss about him? . How many times have I seen the opposition go pass him and their he is strolling around and can't seem to be bothered to run 2 yards to fight for the ball. Let me say this Ozil ain't no big deal! . But the frightening thing is the rest are even worse . Welbeck. Ramsey, Walcott, that joker Wilshire, Iwobi, Need I go on? and do you know what? If the aux wanted to leave I wouldn't blame him either at least you can see a bit of fight in him in the last 2 seasons. Arsenal are not looking for a replacement for Sanchez we've all said it by now they know as well as we do top genuine players want to be in the Champions League. So unless we are going to pay ridiculous wages we haven't got a cat in hells chance.
Mbappe! don't make me laugh .

{Ed001's Note - it just feels like there is no ambition there. The club were happy just to get him, rather than using him as a catalyst to go for trophies.}

22 Jul 2017 07:22:03
Ed01. More like to keep the supporters happy. What is it with Arsenal? Are we only capable of buying one decent player at a time. ? . To be fair when you look at things it's a wonder we have finished in the top 4 as many times as we have. It's either by shear luck or the other teams being poorer than what we imagined.

{Ed001's Note - that is why so many say be careful what you wish for with regards to Wenger, as many believe he has been the one keeping you in the top four.}

22 Jul 2017 07:30:12
While I'm on a roll . I've read and heard that teams that are supposedly interested in Mbappe wouldn't necessarily make him a regular guaranteed starter in their squad!
Errrrrr who's going to pay near on 100 million pound plus and leave the guy as a sub? . He ain't no classic car where you lay out heaps of money then lock it away in a vacuum and wait for the value to go up.

{Ed001's Note - he is that good that I am not sure any team is that good he would not get in the team.}

22 Jul 2017 07:56:30
Totally agree Ed001, before Sanchez joined us he would have met Arsene and during that meeting Sanchez will have told the club his hunger and ambition to win titles and champions league medals and in return Arsene will have said the club match his hunger and ambition 100%,
Sanchez has kept his side of the bargain and could not have done more on his own to make those ambitions a reality, it's the club who haven't matched Alexis undoubted hunger and determination.
There is absolutely no need for this character assassination of Alexis Sanchez just because he wants to challenge for top honours.
Let's be better fans and bigger people than to turn on a player who has given everything to our club for 3 seasons and who we will make a profit on when we sell him.
Let's thank the man for 3 brilliant years service and set about replacing him the best we can, it's the grown up intelligent dignified thing to do.

22 Jul 2017 11:24:31
Wow ed if I'd said that, I would have got lynched, great replies. Some people need to get the rose specs off.

{Ed001's Note - I just don't understand how anyone can criticise Sanchez for wanting to win and call it a bad attitude. If you are 5-0 up and he is on the pitch and whining, then he has a bad attitude. However, when he is digging out his teammates as you are playing poorly and losing, that is will to win, not a bad attitude. That is him trying to get more from those around him. I can remember the likes of Tony Adams constantly screaming at their teammates when their team was not doing well. It is what you need more of not less.}

21 Jul 2017 18:47:54
It will be interesting to see who has signed the best striker for next season, with us man u and chelski replacing the second third and fourth highest scorers in last year's Orem.

21 Jul 2017 19:03:48
Orem, Where did that come from, prem.

21 Jul 2017 19:09:33
See you're getting the hang of that flash new phone mate. 😉.

21 Jul 2017 19:26:41
Stoner I'm in a battle with it. Some of the word changes are just plain weird.

21 Jul 2017 19:28:10
BBC are running a poll on this right now and last time I checked Lacazette was roughly 25% ahead in a cross section of football fans views.

21 Jul 2017 19:50:17
You need a good set of thumbs to get the best out of these new phones Steve, I think this your problem stems from mate :-)

21 Jul 2017 19:51:03
For some reason the vote is closed now gunner.

21 Jul 2017 20:05:10
Ha ha gunner, I've lost mine, so that's it.

21 Jul 2017 20:23:56
Lacazette was the cheapest of the 3 mate and it's anyone's guess how each one will prove the best value for money in the season ahead, we can think this that or the other but only time will tell.
Chances are a 10 million bargain buy will outshine all 3 and we will all be saying we should have signed him instead of Ok Lacazette :-)

21 Jul 2017 20:29:16
Lol Oteve,
Sorry, I mean Steve 👍.

21 Jul 2017 21:10:57
Have we all got the same phone.

21 Jul 2017 21:34:41
Orobably 😊.

21 Jul 2017 21:35:47
happy with lacazette over both but the one to get for everyonee was aubameyang.

21 Jul 2017 22:03:36
I'll put money on it you've both got Ophone 7's 😂😂.

{Ed033's Note - Ophone 7's, is that a.k.a. fat finger syndrome?

21 Jul 2017 23:23:39
Derby I will be pleased with lacazette if he outguns those other two.

21 Jul 2017 12:11:06
Psg apparently bid 45mil for Sanchez which isn't enough we need at least 60mil or a player included in the deal 45mil and matuidi would be ok.

21 Jul 2017 14:49:12
Get real mate.

21 Jul 2017 14:54:31
60m for a player in his last year and will soon be 29 years? Get real mate.
The club should have tried to renew when he had about 2 years left. Going to be difficult to get a huge fees and can get worse if he hands in a transfer.

21 Jul 2017 15:38:42
we tried to get him on a lower wage deal last year should of gone big offered him the 300k and got lacazette over perez.

21 Jul 2017 16:29:20
I agree rover and that's why I say don't sell! I believe 45million is a generous offer for him in his last year but he's more important to us and having him could generate that amount . But in my opinion what imired said is spot on! He never said that's what he's worth in the situation but that's what he would take minimum and he's right! Arsenal are in a stronger possition than we think and only are weak if we act weak.

21 Jul 2017 16:50:33
You don't sell your best player. Unless you are weak.

21 Jul 2017 17:15:51
Dont agree with your statement "unless you are weak" So if we get offered £65 mill for arguments sake you would reject it only for sanchez to sign a pre-contract with Man city in January? NO player is bigger than the club.

21 Jul 2017 17:42:24
Like Fergie and Ranaldo Steve? Let's hope Fergies feebleness rubs off on us :-)

21 Jul 2017 18:35:36
The best teams keep their best players, the not so good sell theirs. If we want to be the best and I do, you don't sell your best player.

21 Jul 2017 18:51:38
Utd did ok after selling Ranaldo Steve and Spurs are the best they've been for years since parting company with Bale and Modric mate.
Liverpool struggled after losing Suarez yet Southampton went from strength to strength after losing Lalama Lambert and co all in one summer.
It's not about who you sell its about what you do with the money you get for them.

21 Jul 2017 19:33:44
Yes but gunner our record is not quite the same. Plus like Utd and spurs of we get squillions of pounds for the sale, we too might be able to invest it wisely but not the money we will be getting in terms of what we are losing. We never recovered selling vierra or van Persie when we needed them and didn't do us many favours.

21 Jul 2017 19:48:01
Just a note gunner the season after man u sold Ronaldo they relinquished their league title from the season before with Ronaldo to chelski. Spurs had a nightmare season after they sold bale.

21 Jul 2017 20:13:39
62 mate, I'm with you mate, especially after Southampton lost Lallana and he is irreplaceable 😜 .
But on a serious note, if he doesn't want to be here than go. Its a massive loss but if we replace him with the right player we should be fine.

21 Jul 2017 20:39:53
£50 million buys you 10 Kante's or 100 Mahrez's pre Leicester, Moe mate :-)

21 Jul 2017 21:21:41
Or five Perez's we could buy him five times from us gunner. We want 10 mil for him.

21 Jul 2017 21:55:13
Absolutely Steve which just goes to show it's not how much you've got but how well you spend it
Or if you prefer
It's not what happens to you it's how you respond to it that decides how well things turn out at the end of the day.

21 Jul 2017 10:08:09
Bit of info for you all direct from Wenger.
This morning we were having a chat it went like this.
" So Arsene what are you doing about Alexis mate? . "
Arsene. "I am sick and tired with hearing his name. Alexis this, Alexis that. I have asked him to stay but f he carrys on I will tell him to bring all the kit back including the boots and he can do what he wants. "
Me . " Even the training kit Arsene? . "
Arsene. " Yes, the whole bloody lot. That's it from now on I'm putting my foot down. "
There you go straight from the horses mouth. So Sanchez had better mind how he goes as Arsene has the real hump with him.
Game tomorrow against Chelsea I understand it's on TV on ITV I think.
I'm on my way back home Sunday.
By the way I had to laugh when Steve Bould told me he had an hernia in his neck. I said " that's balls surely Steve? "
He said " No mate it's in my neck honestly . "
Speak soon.

21 Jul 2017 16:32:11
Wow '! That's the best one so far mate.

21 Jul 2017 18:06:33
I agree Sanogo. I especially like how Bould was spun into the story line and while the main plot was outstanding, the herniated sub-plot was something I would never have seen coming.

21 Jul 2017 09:12:20
Cannot understand why players who say they are ambitious or who think they are really world class would join clubs like Bayern, Juventus or PSG. Sure they have a fair chance of going far in the UCL but they really only have to turn up to win their leagues. (I know PSG didn't do so last time out I but can't see Monaco repeating last year after all the vultures have finished picking their squad clean) .
So these ambitious players really just want easy trophies. What do trophies like that prove? A career with 5 or 6 league titles at Bayern? Or one title with Leicester? Most people will say the former is better but history will say the Leicester team were the real stars.
This is really a note for one Alexis Sanchez.

21 Jul 2017 10:14:27
UCL League? is that the United Counties League that covers Northamptonshire Melbourne? . 😂😂😂.

21 Jul 2017 10:25:23
UEFA Champions League or UCL. 🙄.

21 Jul 2017 16:34:39
Stoner it needs to be backwards for him to understand it's the league champions AFEU silly. God if only you were a doctor stoner you would understand 🙀.

21 Jul 2017 18:16:18
Sanogo, no idea why you're trying to explain things to Renots, I told you he is a weirdo.