Arsenal Banter Archive July 26 2013

 

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26 Jul 2013 23:39:00
Greetings and Salutations my fellow Gooners,

The silly season is now in full effect. Declarations sweeping across the continent of players coming and going.

The discontents moaning about the lack of transfer activity, the purists finding the positive in each sweeping media declaration.

So with all this which fascinates us so the underlying question is. have we moved one step closer to our goal of returning to the elite of European football?

Here's my two pence:

1. Financially - Clearly we have moved in a more positive direction than where we were 12 months ago. New commercial deals have been signed and continue to be signed. As a supporter we can only hope that these funds are in some proportion invested within the club. As such we clearly have done well in this regard. The debt of The Emirates and our poor commercial deals no longer appear to be a factor in our future dealings and this is very positive.

2. Structurally - We remain the most stable of clubs in England and Europe. While some may bemoan the lack of changes in ownership and within our contingency of coaches I for one applaud our stability. In particular when one examines the landscape of the clubs whom to which we are competing with. Bayern, Real, Barcelona, United, Chelsea and City have all changed their managers this off season. While in some instances the transition may be seamless in others it will not and this should bode well in our endeavors.

3. Player stability - For the first time in a long time our core group is not being subtracted from. In addition those who are not in our future have been moved. Of course we still have some work to do but this is a positive difference in comparison to recent years.

4. Buzz - There's something very different about this off season. In the past stories were about other clubs taking our players this year its about ours taking theirs. Now while there is no one on this site who is in the know I for one am enjoying the difference in the media's presentation of our club this off season.

All in all I am very optimistic about this upcoming season. Last year despite the raid on Van Persie the club still brought in Carzola, Podolski, Giroud and Monreal. all fantastic buys. Thus my faith in Arsene remains absolute.

Lest we should all remember we finished last season on an impeccable high. I believe we have some phenomenal young talent on the verge and those around us have many questions to be asked of themselves. I believe we can and will be returning to our days of glory very soon.

And finally with all the Cesc and Suarez talk I believe that if they are meant to be part of our club they will, if not I never doubt the sincerity in approach of our club as it has served us all very well!

Remember we are Arsenal, the greatest football club the world has ever seen!

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

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That's a fair summary.

I would agree, off the pitch arsenal have done very well.

We even managed to make the forbes top 10 rich list of all sports franchise's in the world (in company with the likes of man u, RM, new York yankees, top nfl teams etc, etc)!

Its now on the pitch that arsenal need to focus their attention.

Lets hope they can pull off that aspect, as well as the financial side.

see what the rest of the summer brings.

But I agree the potential is there, its up to the club and wenger to fulfil that promise now.
LG

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26 Jul 2013 23:06:49
saurez will be an arsenal player very soon, not sure if the old asrenal hierachy would of endorsed such a move but the kid will give us a bit more bite, and whether you like him or not, defenders like kompany, terry, louez will be having sleepless nites before they play us how to play against him. at the moment not the case. worth every penny in my book, reckon 43 mill. will do the trick, silverware to follow.

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27 Jul 2013 04:44:59
Arsenal might end up signing only sanogo.

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"give us a bit more bite"

was that a pun?

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26 Jul 2013 23:05:47
Can all the Cesc talk please stop now. He isn't moving anywhere. Suarez is probably going to be on running till the last day. More troubling is our perceived lack of activity at strenghing other areas. We need a GK, CB, DM and a striker though some youngsters have stepped up we still need to sign at least one true world class player to show we aren't a feeder club anymore.

Just read an interesting piece on a website about FFP saying how The oil backed rich clubs like PSG, Monaco, city etc, and the government backed RM will take Uefa to court if they try and enforce punishment and such against them for over spending. The author of the article says how teams like Arsenal should come together and refuse to play these teams. Yes we would get punished, but then if next week the next team also refused where does that leave us? These mega false rich teams would lose all income and Uefa would be forced to act.

Holmesy

One for the voting page ed, 'Who is favourite family member from duck dynasty, mine is Jase thugs I a legend

Holmesy

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26 Jul 2013 22:36:19
Was watching tv earlier and it is said Barcelona DO NOT want to sell Fabregas at all. However he has a buy out clause of £34. 5 Million pound which only Arsenal can trigger.

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26 Jul 2013 22:13:27
The funniest thing about Suarez is he was never sent off in the Premier League.

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The funniest thing about him is his big rat teeth

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Does anyone have respect for footballers? I'm sure you're just perfect aren't you?

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Completely agree Ted. The lad is pure class. The racist situation only happened once (Although it can not be condemned. ) South american football players are known for it. MESSI an Higuain have both done it before. but they have not been done for it. So please stop making stupid remarks like this. If he is going to be a gooner. we have to make him part of the gooner family. Personally I don't see it happen. but hEY HO.

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26 Jul 2013 21:54:11
Eds, have you got any news on any goalkeepers because its gone all quiet on that front I really like Ceasar and marchetti two great keepers and also do you think arsenal will sign a CB I like Williams and Rami personally. {Ed027's Note - If Cesar reduces his wages he will sign, that could happen anytime soon. No other Gk's are being looked at as Wenger is happy to go with what he has got, the same applies for the CB situation, i'd imagine if someone he likes is available he will get them, at the moment he is happy

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Cesar is looking for a decent team to match his demands. if not he will come to us.

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26 Jul 2013 21:38:47
Hi ed, still can't believe we have not bought a top defensive midfielder, how we have not activated the Fellaini buy out fee mystifies me. A player like that is a wonderful option, strong, talented, dominant and very versatile. When we have to play our main rivals, I would feel a lot more confident if we had a Fellaini in our team. I can see all our little playmakers loving having a big boss man in our ranks. When things get heated I would love to see him impose his size and power against all those players who try to knock the crap out of our talented ballers. Why are we waiting for him to end up at man utd, we should have exploited there futile chase for cesc. If I could have one signing this summer, it would be Fellaini. Thanks ed. Buck rogers {Ed027's Note - I have been told, we will not sign a holding mid until the Cesc situation is cleared up. Holding mid or Cesc is the question, in Wenger's mind only one answer

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Hi, sometime back I did post about 2 things I was told and people did not believe me. I am again stating this:
1. Wenger's first choice of strikers was premier league experience and hence interest in Saurez and Rooney, higuain was a back up plan
2. Midfield situation depends on Cesc, he is not sure whether he will stay at barca, if he does not then we get him and if he does stay at barca then we go for Fellaini.
And that is what is causing delays to our signings.
SM

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26 Jul 2013 22:11:26
Will utd ever shut the fork up bout Cesc now scholes is blowing his hole about it they know there forked under moyes

But why is it that sly never mention the famous clause

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They did today. There is a 40m euros clause in his contract, that only Arsenal can trigger.

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I love how Moyes is happy to keep talking about Cesc, putting in bids and talking about not giving up trying to sign him. yet when you change the subject to Rooney a player that has stated he wants to leave, his attitude changes.

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Say no to Suarez

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26 Jul 2013 21:42:17
just curious, do all of you Ed (s) know each other, or just through this website? {Ed027's Note - Some through the website, some in real life

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26 Jul 2013 21:31:02
Ed I'm really enjoying these polls keep them up. :) {Ed027's Note - no worries mate, keep the Q's coming, I've jus put one up on who should be our 1st choice Gk

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Thanks.

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26 Jul 2013 21:29:47
Higuian deal to Napoli has supposedly hit another snag have u any news on this ed?maybe we are still in the running


ty. 1 {Ed027's Note - it'll be done soon

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26 Jul 2013 21:21:50
"Only Tottenham were interested in buying me, I'm an Arsenal fan so could never go to the rivals. "

-Christian Benteke

He may not play for us, but that right there is loyalty!

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Well done Benteke hope you have another good season and score a hatrick against Spurs!

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They only become disloyal once they put our shirt on. Only Arsenal
Flybo

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I agree that right there is loyalty anyone who supports spurs I take an imidiate disliking to.
Benteke you lad hope everything goes well.

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26 Jul 2013 21:00:41
please put where it will fit as its a history article

There has always been one thing that has me in fits when ever I see a spurs fan write,
Arsenal go back to woolwich as spurs a the true north london club.
well I have done a lot of research on this matter and I will share it with you.

The Metropolitan Borough of Islington was a Metropolitan borough within the
County of London from 1900 to 1965, when it was amalgamated with the
Metropolitan Borough of Finsbury to form the London Borough of Islington.
when arsenal moved to higbury in 1910 it was already part of london, which means
arsenal have been in north london for 103 years,

now let's get to spurs
In 1888 Tottenham moved their home fixtures from the Tottenham Marshes to Northumberland Park
In 1899 Spurs made their final ground move to a former market garden in nearby High Road,
Tottenham. In time, the ground became known as White Hart Lane, so spurs have moved twice.
Tottenham developed from a parish in Middlesex into an Urban sanitary district in 1875,
after a local board of health had been established in 1850, then divided in 1888 so that
Wood Green became a separate authority. [11] In 1894 Tottenham was reconstituted first as
an urban district then as a municipal borough in 1934, before being subsumed into the
larger London Borough of Haringey under the Local Government Act 1963.

so with facts, it proves one thing, arsenal have been a north london club a lot longer than the spuds,
spurs have only been a north london club since 1965, now I know it seems to much to read with just facts
thrown at you, but the fact is, spurs fans choose to ignore real facts and it shows how stupid they
really are, to actually say they are a true north london club is just a joke, arsenal have been classed
as a north london club a lot longer than spurs, but you will never get a spud to admit this, but whenever you
see a spud shout spurs are a true north london club, you now know that in fact they are not and only
been in north london since 1965.

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As much as I love putting spurs down, especially my best mate! I don't think it is fair to call them stupid for not knowing all of that lol

noobGooner

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26 Jul 2013 20:53:45
Arsenal agree another commercial deal with an american pay per view company to show live games. More money to sit in the bank haha

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26 Jul 2013 22:37:07
That's interesting news mate. where did you find that info mate. did read somewhere we have some smaller commercial deals on the pipelines. any idea how much? Km

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That's why there has been no signings of new players, Arsenal business club getting its priorities right, money making first! Take everything they can, give nothing back.

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26 Jul 2013 20:28:51
Ed027 is it true that fabregas has a 34.4mil release clause only arsenal can activate? {Ed027's Note - maybe, I can't say for certain, but it is likely

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26 Jul 2013 22:32:53
It was on sky it must be true

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26 Jul 2013 20:02:33
For any of the Eds.

Do you ever get frustrated with being asked same questions when there is a search button on site?

Also do you think Fabregas will be joining United?

Thanks {Ed027's Note - yes I do, for instance your question. no

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O M F G!

Two in one night! That might just be funnier than the Suarez message on a t-shirt to Real!

Lol

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I cannot genuinely believe you didn't get that. You need me to break it down for you? I can use pictures if this helps. {Ed007's Note - Some of the Editors aren't as sharp as us oldies, they are too busy worrying about spots and never having a girlfriend.}

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My thoughts exactly Ed!

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I hope it was a joke though!

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Haha touché Ed

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Lol thank you Ed007 haha. New favourite Ed {Ed027's Note - those pictures would help

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26 Jul 2013 20:02:11
Anyone else think if we do get LS it will be for a lot less than what's being thrown around I remember crazy numbers being quoted for Henry Cesc and Rvpr! (k and look what we got in the end for them I think we will get him for the 40 mill Liverpool just trying to stand there ground like we did and failed

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I'm thinking £40M too but don't care if its £50M, just do SOMETHING, get SOMEONE!

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The fee will be over 45 million and likely to be closer to 50 million. You have to remember that John Henry is a hard nosed sob who does not take prisoners in money matters.

Tommy Gunn

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Did he not sanction the Andy Carroll Jordan Henderson stu downing moves
He wasnt so smart then was he

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Chelski paid for Carroll when we got 50 million for Torres and oh yes we signed Suarez for 22 million at that time. The deal looks a bit better now I think. As for Henderson he is coming on in leaps and bounds and has even started scoring at away grounds. he was pretty good at the Emirates last time around I recall. You might mention Downing but you don't mention Coutinho. very selective.

No hard feelings with Arsenal because you are a proper club. Just watch out when you bid for Suarez because the euphoria of getting a big name big price signing might turn into a bit of a nightmare.

Tommy Gunn

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Haha love it cork city gooner (good to see some Irish gooners btw).

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26 Jul 2013 19:44:14
I think the bottom line is the clause in suarez contract. If the players agent has a case then we will get him. if not I can't see us paying in the region of 50m. I must say this is a very frustrating time to support our team. We never get our deals done early or seem to get our main targets. Look at the way city go about their dealing. That aside, I really don't see Cesc going to utd. I also hope the Bale deal has some legs. km

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The contract is solid. Liverpool owners renegotiated it last. You need to remember that John Henry is astute and does not fold when it comes to bargaining. He will sell Suarez but not cheaply. You will be paying top dollar. The risk you run is that Suarez will most probably look to move on to Spain within two years. Is he really worth the risk? Liverpool fans loved him but most now feel that it is best that he is sold and we move on. Arsenal might be better off letting Suarez go elsewhere otherwise you might have bitten off more that even Suarez can chew.

Tommy Gunn

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That's because Citeh and others OVERPAY for players in an inflated market.

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26 Jul 2013 21:56:50
Is that the same astute John Henry who gave the go ahead to buy Carroll, Downing, Adams and others.

MG42

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Suarez Coutinho 2 of the others

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Tommy Gunn, I hear what you're saying and you probably have a point.

If the deal goes a ahead, I think arsenal should insert a minimum sell on release fee - at least they are covered then. In fact I would be surprised/annoyed if they don't.

But arsenal are usually quite good with their clauses.

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26 Jul 2013 19:01:06
hello all first time on this site die hard goner I must say every summer for last 8 years the board say we have money we don't buy I will not be surprised if wenger comes out and says I am happy with my team its a joke but gess wot all the fans that moan will still buy season tickets we sd stand together its the board not wenger. wenger is a great coach we ha spent less money than stoke city and gess wot we get in cl everytime. but I must say I will be amazed if we spent money big money

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26 Jul 2013 21:07:09
If Wenger feels that 4th place is acceptable and that 15-20 points behind utd is ok then he should not be at the club. The fact we have spent much less than our rivals and lost all our best players, including 4 of our captains. I accept the financial constraints have been the main reason, but this year, there could be no excuses he has to buy Proven quality players. i'm sure the Suarez deal will become more clearer in the next 72 hoursI still don't understand why we haven't signed a defensive midfielder yet. even taking into a count Ramsey has improved enormously as a deeper midfield, both he and Arteta are not natural defensive midfielders and this will tell in the big games next season. I think the fact the QPR keeper hasn't gone to to Napoli gives me the impression he will sign for us before the start of the season. It's prob a question over wages. Wenger did indicate that he might need to change the way the club is run last season regarding wage structure and Fees payed for players. The fact that a lot of dead wood has gone is a positive indication that things might finally change. I think a signing like suarez would be a massive lift for the club, players and most importantly supporters. I can't remember the last time assigning really excited me since Overmars or Bergkamp, maybe sol Campbell. Bearing in mind Henry and Viera established there careers at Highbury. Maybe Arsharvin was the last. Come on Arsene, if you want those new away shirts to fly of the shelf get Suarez ASAP. plesae. km

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Die hard goner! hope you pull through mate. lol
trev the gooner

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26 Jul 2013 18:43:34
Mr B R Why playing hard ball Suarez?with 40millon bid you could buy 3 to 4 strikers that will d guy in question. Pls allow this guy to feel how CL looks like. So that he can compete top players like he his. please do let go.

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Up your price and you can have him. Stop skimping and do the decent thing. Bidding 1 pound over the 40m made Arsenal board look really silly and lacks class. You made utd Pay top dollar for Van Persie, whom was in his last yr, And good for you. Nobody forced Suarez to sign a 4yr deal last season. And if his Value was 40 Million last summer, surely after the season he had, his price should rise, don't you think?

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You need to ask John Henry not Brendan. John Henry is a hard man in business negotiations. No sentiment just cold hard facts. He will want top dollar if Suarez is going to move to another team in the EPL. We will be very pleased with 45 million or more and most Liverpool supporters will feel that we have got the better deal than Arsenal who will be taking a flawed genius who has maybe two years left in the EPL before he goes to Spain. A week ago most Liverpool fans would have been appalled at the prospect of Suarez moving to another side in the EPL. Now many feel that the money that John Henry will extract will be a really good deal.

Tommy Gunn

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Firstly it's just not factually accurate that his issues and baggage do not drop his valuation, they do, it may not drop what Liverpool ask, demand or want or get for him but it does drop his valuation.
Secondly, I don't believe that john henry is as astute as this post claims, additionally as has been touched on in other entries, not a single person at Liverpool should speak of loyalty after the way they went after Rodgers from Swansea and the opportunity Rodgers was given and then jumped ship to a larger club with more cache and spending power, it happens in modern football.
Finally, if what I have seen is any indication there will almost certainly be some room from a legal point in the Suarez claim that the amount actually is a release clause and not an negotiation clause, and I suspect that Liverpool will sell, to arsenal, for slightly more than the 40 million but less than the 50 million, they are asking or it could well be that the epl arbitration is not the last and it could be taken to both or either the eu or the arbitration for sport. I don't believe that the epl decision will be binding to either, and in the end I think Liverpool will think it more than prudent to take the amount that will still leave them a tidy profit on what they paid than go through endless arbitration and have what are already burnt bridges with a current player.

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26 Jul 2013 22:20:10
Maybe Arsenal are aware of the details of the contract unlike you and I who get our information from newspapers, tv and websites whom are not always truthful. still don't see the point of having a clause Of 40m if the price is 10m higher. If your price is 50m, then have a clause that states In black and white if you want to speak to our player it will only happen if you offer 50m. It's this grey area that makes me think Arsenal might know a bit more than the newspapers. Guardiola Would of had legal representation when the negotiationing the contract. The 40m stipulation would be rendered worthless if Liverpool want 150m for the player. There is little loyalty in the game these days from the players which is compounded from their agents greed. I think this is the problem with Rooney. Why would he want to leave a team that won the league and be paid in the region of 220k - 240k per week, crazy. I think he heald the club to ransom once before when he was the biggest fish in the pond. Now things have changed and it won't work twice. Km

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26 Jul 2013 22:26:41
Maybe Arsenal are aware of the details of the contract unlike you and I who get our information from newspapers, tv and websites whom are not always truthful. still don't see the point of having a clause Of 40m if the price is 10m higher. If your price is 50m, then have a clause that states In black and white if you want to speak to our player it will only happen if you offer 50m. It's this grey area that makes me think Arsenal might know a bit more than the newspapers. Guardiola Would of had legal representation when the negotiationing the contract. The 40m stipulation would be rendered worthless if Liverpool want 150m for the player. There is little loyalty in the game these days from the players which is compounded from their agents greed. I think this is the problem with Rooney. Why would he want to leave a team that won the league and be paid in the region of 220k - 240k per week, crazy. I think he heald the club to ransom once before when he was the biggest fish in the pond. Now things have changed and it won't work twice. Km

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We will see then. If you are correct Arsenal will get Suarez for 40 million plus change. If we are correct Liverpool will get more than 45 million. In any event the tide has turned in the last week or so and sentiment has shifted significantly amongst Liverpool supporters to wanting Suarez out of the club. Arsenal might get their man but there will be some smiling faces at LFC and Arsene might regret the one big spend he has made in his career. With just one more bite Suarez could outdo Dracula for the damage he could bring down on Arsene.

Tommy Gunn

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Liverpool do not have to sell at that price mate. If that was the case Suarez would be on a plane now. The clause only ask to inform the player of an approach, he will still have to ask for a transfer giving up 2 million or so, And we still don't have to sell him. Arbitration would take ages, he's apparently using Arsenal, because it's Madrid he wants

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The Clause has nothing to do with if you want to talk to our player, Its to inform the player that a 40 million offer has been received and if he wants to leave he still has to put in a transfer request, It has absolutely nothing to do with releasing him, or he would be on a plane now. {Ed052's Note - the clause means LS can talk}

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26 Jul 2013 18:25:14
Ed do you believe cesc will stay this summer and if he leaves will wenger do everything to sign hima and would you expect him to get him thanks {Ed027's Note - I think Cesc will stay, if he leaves he will come to Arsenal

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26 Jul 2013 18:12:41
Purely not transfer related but it really frustrated me, I was chating to my mates about great footballers and I obviously said Thierry Henry and my mate said that he wasn't a world class player, I shall never forgive him again. Love you Henry. {Ed027's Note - not world class? What was he on?

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Arsenals all time record goalscorer with over 200 goals.

Fast, powerful and could score with his head and either foot.

Scored penalties and free kicks. Took corners and captained our club.

Along with Bergkamp, one of the greatest players to EVER play fo Arsenal!

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And already voted the best striker to have graced the premier league in its entirety. Your mate needs to do one lol

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God I miss them, what a strike force. maybe the come back and help coach this persons into a world class team

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26 Jul 2013 17:48:54
I red through a banter post here that state "Santi Carzorla is only a second best to Juan Mata in EPL" I strongly suggest that the dude that post that should use his search Engine well as Santi Carzorla is currently quoted as the BEST ATTACKING MIDFIELDER IN EPL according to: The Current Player Rating With Respect to Their Positions

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Come off it.

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Current player rating where?

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Cazorla is excellent, but Mata is better.

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So what?

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Mata had a better season last year but remember it was Cazorla's first in the prem and he nearly got more assists in the league and goals than Mata. Next season will decide.

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To be honest when you track back their development as players Mata started representing his country at U16's and was playing for his country through all the following ranks in steady progression up to the first team. Cazorla only started representing his country for the u21's. Mata outscored Carzola in the league and all competitions and also got more assists in the league and in all competitions compared to Cazorla. I absolutely love Cazorla and he would moonwalk into either Manchester team and at Chelsea would probably play with Mata in the team but I honestly have to admit all throughout his career Mata has done better in terms of stats and what he does on the pitch for his team compared to Cazorla.

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26 Jul 2013 17:37:51
I can't help feeling that our interest in Suarez is to ramp up the price for Madrid as payback for the Higuain deal. Assuming Madrid will go for Suarez, with us bidding for him, they will "lose" the extra 8 or 9 million they received for Higuain. Suarez is very talented but his conduct is questionable and his price is ridiculously high. Some like to think that our club is run by persons but we have some cunning people at the helm, Wenger included, and it wouldn't surprise me if we had another target.

Of course, there is a chance that the club is run by persons and we'll end up missing out completely.

JG

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He is many things but an artist isn't one of them, I wouldn't put him in the same class as Cantona tbh

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Say no to Suarez

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Must be a scouser, its the conspiracy theory that gives you away mate. lol

trev the gooner

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27 Jul 2013 10:52:09
Trev, I'm an Arsenal season ticket holder and I don't necessarily take things at face value. Madrid reneged on a deal so why wouldn't we try to get back at them in some way?

JG

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26 Jul 2013 17:26:51
I am going all out here, we have earned our money honorably, why should we not spend it the way we want. As for Surez (spelling lol) he is an artist, Cantona, Dicanio, you name them, all magicians. So please if we get Suarez, I will.

Mofaya

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With you all the way and then

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Defiantly the craziness of dicanio, but he is still a fantastic striker and will really give arsenal that needed boost and a winning mentality.

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26 Jul 2013 17:25:49
edd do you think there is any chance we could get bernard and suarez or am I in dreamland? and when do you expect arsenal to make a 3ed bid for suarez?

cheers KAY9 {Ed027's Note - if we want to we could, I don't expect Bernard though, it all seems like bs to me. When Liverpool give in after Suarez and co have done there head in, Arsenal will go back

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26 Jul 2013 16:53:10
So what happen 2 Bernard having his medical 2day! More lies. Wish we would just start buying players, world class players. some1 that comes on and wins the game. Not Suarez!

Gunners. Suarez or Rooney?


Fellieni or cesc?

I would love cesc bk, but I can c him stayin at barca 4 a couple more years yet! Rooney maybe, Suarez if played without cheating! Fellieni if he got a hair cut! Lol.

We need a goalkeeper, a solid cb, DM and a cf or lw!

Lets c if anything happens b4 next wkend!

Roll on the emirates cup.

And we get 2 c higuain play at the emirates! But not 4 the right team!

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26 Jul 2013 16:26:51
Do you's think the ox will be a starter this season or used as a super sub like theo was for years?

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Sub, but with a few more games from the start.

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I's thinx sub.

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26 Jul 2013 16:18:06
Watching the game today I remembered Fabianski got married recently.
I just had this vision of his bride cracking her head open after Fabianski drops her over the threshold.
We need another keeper. A Good one!
Flybo

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He's a decent backup.

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Amen!

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Jus4He is a bit ugly as well. Only joking Flybo, just a bit bored with lack of activity and trawling site looking for things to pick up on, peace out! Up the gunners

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We really need an experienced keeper like marchetti, Ceasar and Adler.

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26 Jul 2013 16:14:47
Has anyone made an official 'Arsenal Rumours' fantasy league yet?

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Yeah there's 2.

"Fantasy. premierleague. com
League - ArsenalRumours13/15
Code 424809-131299

If anyone interested as like pdoty implied its a decent one

Paul - Rochester


Hi Eds,

I am running a league in the premier league fantasy dream team.

If anyone wants to join then the code is 290464-76653


The name of the league is "Blag it big time!"

Thanks

Greeny"

Bournemouth Gooner

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I'm in if there is one

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Feel free to join my league guys and girls. All welcome.

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26 Jul 2013 16:12:56
Why do people think Real Madrid's strikers would drop out of one of the most competitive teams in the world right now, genuine CL contenders, to go play for Liverpool? Is it just me who thinks this is just sad? Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks it's awkward to even think Higuain, for example, and now Benzema, would want to leave Madrid to play for Liverpool? I can't be.

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Good point

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Of course they won't go there. KJ huntelaar last year labeled Lfc as Not a European address anymore. He's right. Until they reclaim a place in the top 4 they will struggle to attract those big names. Lfc spurs Everton or any team who wants a bigger stadium will all go through years like the 8 we have gone through. Fortunately we held that top 4 position. Could any of them do that from there current position? I doubt it

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26 Jul 2013 15:37:11
is there a press conference from the club today?

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Is this just a stab in the dark or is this actually based on something. Only there has been no news of a press conference. Not that I've heard anyway.

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Doubt it- they are in japan. There maybe some reports later of any post match interviews.

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26 Jul 2013 15:26:44
Has anyone actually watched much of Capoue?

He is really average, Arteta and Ramsey are both better. Capoue would not improve us one bit.

Personally, I think someone like Matuidi is the kind of player we need, probably won't get him though.

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Matuidi is a good player but too small we need height and strength, and Rambo and arteta are great players but capoue, kondogbia, fellaini and gustavo are very good and have power and heading ability and are very defensive.

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26 Jul 2013 15:21:39
Eds how good is Muriel in your opinion? {Ed027's Note -I've just linked his player profile to the page, if you could look for that, it's an in depth review, and it will tell you everything you need to know

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Wouldn't bother it's more about how good he would be for Liverpool than the player himself

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26 Jul 2013 14:59:31
mixed reports- some are saying RM are bidding for suarez, while others say they are out of the running- not sure what to believe.


IF RM are bidding; Soldaldo anyone? jackson Martinez? Huntelear? etc, etc.

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Huntelaar can f off. He deliberately flirted with us, a club in need of a forward, to land a better deal at Schalke. He can go do himself imo. He wouldn't play for the badge. If we're going to sign someone who will only play for himself then it should be someone better than him, like Suarez or Ibra!

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Yeah hunelaar can F off he only sits up to and doesn't help the team too LAZY!

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A new player profile has been created on Luis Muriel

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26 Jul 2013 14:58:32
Do you think there is a possibility of us signing bernard and not signing a forward, but instead playing podolski up front. I just can't see Suarez coming to us. He doesn't seem like the usual wenger signing. Have we got any other center forward targets?

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God I hope your right.

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I'd rather get Bernard and Cesc than just Suarez.

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Great possession, not so many goals though.

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26 Jul 2013 14:36:38
I love Arsene Wenger for one thing in this window: he has proven no one outside of AFC staff can ever claim to be "in the know". He will sign people that no one expected

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Yes, unkNown french and spanish players. well done.

DMT07

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26 Jul 2013 14:13:04
I live in Wales and the Suarez transfer and Brendan Rogers getting on his high horse about loyalty, has got loads of people talking about the loyalty he showed Swansea the team that then went on to get into Europe this season and win a trophy unlike Liverpool, whether you agree or not with his move still made me smile to hear a load of Cardiff City fans joking about it in a pub. If this Suarez saga has made me do one thing its laugh hearing all the Liverpool fans talk about how they are as big a club as us yes in terms of History they absolutely are, but what they can offer now million miles apart, 7th, 6th, 8th, 7th they've finished the last four season and they still think they are our biggest rival to a champions league place. But seriously if Arsenal could sign some players that would be great.

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Plus we have money now.

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Very good point. I guess loyalty is relative to some people.

I think there are very few real examples of loyalty in football today.

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Loyalty - Ryan Giggs!

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Rodgers is a joke he was unloyal to watford then swansea and all suraez wants to do is play for a club that is in the champions league and a chance to win trophies

watford gooner {Ed030's Note So Cazorla is a joke for leaving Malaga,If you change you're job for a better higher paid job you're a joke,You're argument is invalid. }

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26 Jul 2013 14:04:21
Liverpool fan here in peace, I know most fans don't want Suarez to leave, but a lot are fed up with the way he conducts himself on the field it's like he could do the stupidest thing and get sent off, but apart from that on his day he is a match winner and in my eyes one of the best ill be sad to see him go, but we will sign a couple for the 45mil or more we get from you's or Madrid, don't grow to attached to him cause his dream is to play in Spain and not if its when he goes there he will drop you's like your fallen out of his ass, loyalty in football is gone best of luck with the coming season folks

Des

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Sorry, I have asked this the other day but no one gave an answer: you already have an attacking triumvirate of Podolski, Walcott and Giroud, plus Cazorla. Why would you want Suarez when you should be looking for a solid GK and CB? I really don't get it

Singred (LFC fan) {Ed027's Note - to improve?

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You mean you really want LS to come and upset the entire applecart?

LS wants to be the focal point of the attack which was why Rodgers changed the style of play to accomodate him. Take LS out of out play and our attack became more fluid.

You guys are welcome to him - Wenger will have a job on his hands trying to please everyone

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Because he is better than all of them. We want a striker of his quality, a CB/DM and a GK.

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No, as Ed said, we want him to improve us, which he will if he signs. And Wenger won't take any nonsense.

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I cannot believe how anyone would ask why we would want a striker of his quality. One thing I will give Liverpool is that their players turn up every week. Ours don't at all. Theo turns up for half a season and the most infuriating player at the club. Podolski needed last season to adapt and there's not that much to suggest he'll be drafted into the middle. Giroud is a great player and I'm sure will improve upon last year with opportunities, but we are a team who aspire to win a trophy, challeneg for the league and the champions league. We're so far off we've been become a laughing stock, the token club who takes part in the cups, the CL and the top 4 race and nobody expects to win any of them. We need to change that and players of Suarez's calibre are how you do that. Why do think your club is so desperate to keep the guy? It's actually awkward watching it. he doesn't want to even play for you any more yet you can't face it. That shows what an asset he is on the pitch.

Even if he gets a 10-game ban per season he'll score more than any of our current players. That's why! {Ed007's Note - If he gets a 10 match ban every season he won't be 'turning up every week' as you put it though, will he?}

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Ed, nice one, but I mean when he does play. Walcott turns up for half his games, Giroud will be much better but was absent in the run in and eventually was subbed. Podolski gets played wide and isn't as effective as he could be in the middle. I've never seen a game for Liverpool where Suarez wasn't trying to do whatever he could to win. Can't honestly say the same for our forwards.

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26 Jul 2013 14:00:07
It's looks like we could be signing Suarez now that Real Madrid are no longer interested. Madrid aren't looking to sign a striker, even though Higuain is leaving, as they still have Benzema and they also want to give Jese Rodriguez and Alvaro Morata a chance in the first team.

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I certainly hope so. If we are the only interested club, then am sure we can be guaranteed to get him.

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26 Jul 2013 13:53:00
Eds and fellow gooners,

Soldado (£26m), Rami (£8m), Capoue (£9m), Cesar (£2m) would cost about £45m. So will Suarez.

Am missing something here in terms of where the better value lies? Wages should be covered by what we've released etc. {Ed030's Note - Rami and Cesar would cost more then that. }

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2 words: match winner

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But Ed didn't Valencia say that that the would sell Rami for that much? Also QPR just want to get rid of Cesar because of his high wages. {Ed030's Note - I don't think so,Yeah but they still are in a position to demand a fee of more then £2 million. }

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Valencia are willing to accept 9 million euros for rami
Ali

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We have more than £45m, that's where the value lies.

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26 Jul 2013 13:51:51
Daily star reporting that liverpool will be intrested in benzema for suarez an cash {Ed030's Note - You summed that up with the first to words,Daily star. }

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Benzema would never join Liverpool!

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Don't believe the press and certainly not the 'red tops', they are nothing but comics.

You'll be telling us all next that you watch all the soaps and haven't missed a single episode in 30 years

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26 Jul 2013 13:44:00
Barca new manager Martino and backed up by the VP Bartomeu confirmimng that Fabregas is staying put and not for sale :)

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26 Jul 2013 13:42:40
Arsenal have just signed Suarez, Rooney, and have gone back in for Higuain again!. If only, Sorry all I was having a Carlsberg moment.

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Haha. Seems more like a whiskey moment to me

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26 Jul 2013 13:29:56
It was good finish with a win, but Theo's finishing was dreadful. We have some excellent young players coming through, particularly Zelalem (spelling?) & Akpom. I am not all sure about Miquel, he certainly looks uncomfortable at left-back. Possibly, in his favoured position, he will mature into a decent centre back.
Even with Cazorla, Monreal & Vermaelen to add to the squad, we desperately need a 4th centre back, an additional defensive midfield player, a rapid wide player & a top notch striker.

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26 Jul 2013 12:30:18
Am I the only arsenal fan who thinks signing Suarez is a bad move?

He has had one good season at lfc and they played to his strengths, it's a lot of money for a player who might not produce the same performance for arsenal

Suarez doesn't seem to have any loyalty so who's to say next summer he wants to leave us if we don't Finnish top 4

He is one of if not the most disliked players in England maybe the world he comes with a lot of baggage and you can be sure he will do some crazy thing this season
To get banned so for me stay away muncher


Scott

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To be honest I would suggest that about 50% of the Gooners don't want Suarez to come. I'm also one of them. There´s more available strikers that can be as good or even better and for less money.

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Name them

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26 Jul 2013 13:40:05
Believe it or not, but I've just finished watching 2. 1win on tour and was sat in stand 2 rows in front ov vip section with all arsenal boardroom staff. Only one knew was gazidas who spoke to fans for 20mins. People mainly kids were shouting and quizzing him on suarez and rooney etc and as leaving I asked him how transfer developments were going and as I seemed to be only civililized question he replied nothing changed since before tour as he joked the clubs on holiday. He said wait till your all home and will be more happy, he said deals were advanced and been in place a while. when asked who, he just smiled and said ignore all paper talk. I know no names but maybe bit ov light end ov tunnell for frustrated gooners. May be names not discussed. Fingers crossed nk33

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How long did it take you to make this up?

Trinidad-Gooner

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Ha! you have to laugh sometimes, people post romours with names transfer fees, times, contacts ect, and get slated for it , then people post no names no contacts no fees ect just information, and still get slatted! silly season for sure is the transfer window

RD!

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26 Jul 2013 13:32:16
We should forget about Suarez anything over 40mil is stupid we should strengthen other areas what about 35mil for lewadonski? Dortmund don't wana sell to Munich {Ed030's Note - Lewandoski wouldn't cost £35 million,He will sign for Bayern on a free next summer probably. }

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Really so they will let him go for free to there fiercest rivals

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S***, where have you been. Lewe' is now entering the last year of his contract. He refuses to leave because he will join Bayern next year on a free.

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26 Jul 2013 13:22:23
ed here's one for the voting polls - who should be the number one keeper. szczesny, fabianski or a new signing? i'm going for fabianski, he's been brilliant for the last couple seasons. I hope he can put injuries behind him this time. {Ed030's Note - Ok mate. }

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Like ed's comment I was thinking the same thing to!

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26 Jul 2013 13:05:27
FC Barcelona vice-president Josep Maria Bartomeu on Cesc Fabregas' future: "It doesn't matter what any offer from Manchester United is - we're not selling him. We're counting on him. He's not for sale.

"If there was a higher offer would we accept it? No. He's a great player. It doesn't bother us that Manchester United want him. We're proud that a club like that wants one of our players. "

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26 Jul 2013 13:02:33
Hi Ed's could you add this post to the banter reply about where someone posted Livepool's squad and compared it to Arsenal's.


Cazorla over Countinho it's close but Cazorla wins look at Cazorla's goals and assists and overall performances match ball, hat trick on stats Cazorla wins. He was the second best playmaker to Mata in the league.

Koscienly Agger in my eyes are equal but I remember Kosc blocking a shot on his chest and walking it out from defense that's just class. Kosc had a class season and played world class and Agger is top quality.

Wilshere and Lucas one of the ed's said that's like comparing a RB and CM or something like that but Wilshere can play holding mid and attacking mid and Lucas is a holding mid.

Wilshere wins.

Liverpool have a very strong squad yes but with their squad minus Mignolet now where did they finish?

That's why Suarez wants to leave he see's Arsenal's project and believes its better.

Gerrard now can't stay fit and is in and out of the squad because of it. He is not the player he once was and he and Lampard are being pushed out of the England sqaud in midfield to start the likes of Wilshere and co. {Ed030's Note - It's a team game mate,Teams can buy brilliant individuals and still not be a good team,Last years premier league winners didn't have as good individuals as Man City or Chelsea but they where the better team and of course you're view is going to be biased. }

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Not sure how Gerrard is being pushed out of the England squad given that he's the CAPTAIN, you may have a point after the World Cup but he will be nearly 35 by then and should be being replaced by a player coming into his prime ie Wiltshire etc

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Trouble with Liverpool is that in Liverpool they honestly believe they are the best at everything, singing, comedians, football you name it. If you ever talk to people from Liverpool it's like they always want to top you up. If you found £100 in the gutter they would have found £500 quid in the same place. The same with football they cannot accept that their are better teams then theirs. God I sound so childish fact is my brother in law comes from there and he is a right mug too. {Ed030's Note - That's so stereotypical it's unreal,I wouldn't like to get into a debate over where you live,This is a football forum remember although what you're saying is so untrue us Liverpool fans accept we are no longer the biggest team in football,As you say you sound so childish. }

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26 Jul 2013 12:57:02
VERMAELEN. If the stats are correct Vermaelen joined Arsenal in 2009 and has made a total of 96 appearances. That's a lot of injury time out in my book. Hypotheticaly if he had an ordinary job that would equate to nearly 2 years that he was not at work in a four year period/season 2009/2010, 2010/2011, 2011/2012, 2012/2013. and already he is injured again! Now you all know where I'm going with this! It's not good enough.! {Ed030's Note - Fabulous defender on his day though,The problem is keeping him fit. }

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Ed 030. Couldn't agree more mate but what would you do with him? Problem is everyone knows he is injury prone so how much is he worth? {Ed030's Note - Probably around £10 million. }

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I couldn't care less. If we hadn't signed Vermaelen we would not have remained in the top 4 over those seasons.

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Ed 030. Do you know what mate if I was in charge and I was offered £10 million for him I would snap their hands off wouldn't you?

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Exactly Ted, he's a brilliant defender. Look at United with Rio and Vidic, two guys who are always injured but you hang on because when they're fit and on form they're some of the best in the world.

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26 Jul 2013 12:48:13
I don't get it.

We had a chance to sign Higuain for 30 mil + the fact that he wants to join us, but instead we're now pursuing Saurez who will cost almost double the price to sign.

I understand that Arsene is a man of principle and that he refused to meet the 30 mil that has been jacked up by Real after the clubs have already agreeing a fee, but sometimes you got to bite the bullet and get it done so that you can focus on other areas.

If the sources are correct - that we have 70 mil to spend - after we signed Higuain we would have had 40 mil left over to sign other players. Now it'll take something around 50 mil to get a player who (a) always will be a target of the press due to his past behaviors and (b) will miss the beginning of the new season and we need a strong start to challenge anything this coming season! Also, there is also a risk with suarez since I believe Real can and/or will sign him if they really want.

Unless we see some signings by the end of this month I doubt that we will challenging anything next year.

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Napoli paid 40 million for higuain mate that is being held to ransom.

Trinidad-Gooner

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Napoli paid more for him than Madrid value Suarez at. That tells the story. He's not a £40m player, he's not a £30m player, he's a £20m player who some would stretch the budget for. I love Higuain but I'm not mental, I can see he's not worth £30m let alone the £32 Napoli paid.

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26 Jul 2013 12:40:09
Just relax, we are atill in Japan, wait till next week to start moaning.

PTG

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26 Jul 2013 12:13:30
why does the uk media/public like calling players by wierd/wrong names?

ie Natxo isn't nacho. not some guy in a wresling suit.

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26 Jul 2013 11:19:08
Hey Eds- I know I've been going on about Suarez a lot! But do you think that there's a realistic chance that he could be in an arsenal shirt come the start of the season?

Thanks a lot! {Ed030's Note - It's possible,But not likely. }

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26 Jul 2013 10:25:40
How much would cordoza cost ed. know he is old but always causes problems for any defence. Worth a punt for few years {Ed030's Note - Probably around £10 million. }

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26 Jul 2013 12:22:13
Is it me or is iggy a really average player I know he's playing of position but he's making mert look like usain bolt!


SM1996

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I agree. Won't make it. Looks perpetually anxious, like Djourou. You're always waiting for the mental lapse to come. Unnerves the rest too.

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He is young and out of position. What concerns me is that he doesn't appear to be progressing in his chosen centre back role. Mind you centre backs often don't mature until around 24 years of age.

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26 Jul 2013 11:40:47
Arsenal, we're on your side
Our love we can not hide
Our hearts are open wide
To cheer you along the way
We will be standing by
We know how hard you try
Whether you win or lose
It's you that we choose
So special when youse around

Now you have found
Supporters who will never let you down
We will be there,
to cheer you on,
by singing this song,
Here is the sooong.

I love Arsenal!!

COYG

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Bloody hell! Going back a bit there. Trouble is I remember buying the single??

Estepona gooner

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Omg that's amazing :p

Cork city Gooner

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26 Jul 2013 11:35:56
I think I am losing my mind! I can't eat, I can't sleep, I can't let go of my bottle of Johnny! the only thing that is keeping me sane is the very thing that is driving me mad. Anticipation!

Luis the Cannibal
Benard
Cesc
Bender
Sakho

Is that too much to ask for?

I need HELP!

Gunner forever!

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I share your pain - I am going to have to ween myself off constantly checking every possible site that may give a hint of news. please wenger - for our collective sanity, throw us a crumb.

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26 Jul 2013 11:33:35
when saurez was first mentioned I thought no chance but now it really could happen but was does everyone else think and how much you think it will take

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26 Jul 2013 11:15:45
arsenal will not sign any big name player. suarez, rooney, fellaini, will not happen. its typical wenger make a bid which he knows full well is short of the valuation then turn round and say well we tried to bring the players in. please post this so arsenal fans know what's going to happen. same old arsene i'm afraid guys!

JJGOONER

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Stop being such a whinger will you. Why on earth would we bid 40000001 just for a laugh?? I have been skeptical in the past admittedly however I genuinely believe AW wants Monster munch at AFC and I say bring him on. Up the gooners

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I think you are wrong, if indeed Arsenal bid 40 mil for Suarez, then do you not think the intent is there. I think we will sign him and 2 other players. I believe this will include a goal keeper.

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26 Jul 2013 10:54:08
Chelsea fan here, if you lot land Suarez and Fab, you can be sure United will finish 4th this season, Chelsea City Arsenal top 3, in what order - I don't know. But we could all have a joint laugh at united!

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Im down with that. :)
big dickey

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26 Jul 2013 10:47:14
"Bernard will be sold if �25m bid arrives", says Atletico Mineiro director Maluf

let me guess, we made a LOW initial bid.

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Yeah we will probably bid £24 million 999 thousand and loose the deal.

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Ofc! I hope we get this guy, he looks like he could be the real deal.

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IF this is true:

Ed, do you think Porto would offer such a large sum since their business model is to buy low and sell high?

Do you see him going to Porto or joining Arsenal?

Thanks mate,
Trinidad-Gooner {Ed027's Note - I'm not to sure, I hear Poruguese clubs are in trouble, the league had to pay the players wages in the last two months of the season. Porto are seen as a good stepping stone by Bernanrd, they wouldn't pay 20m+ they would buy 50% of him so paying maybe 10m, 3rd party ownership is why I don't see any English club signing him

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26 Jul 2013 10:40:46
really concerned about Arsenal when Ed027 says wenger thinks we have enough cb's. okay if sagna changes to a full time cb then yes, but then we'd need a new right back imo. a defender should be signed. right now we're heading to the new season with only gibbs, kos, mert, sagna and jenkinson as senior defenders with both nacho and verm out injured. and we have a cl qualifier too! bellerin and miquel are here of course, but they're unproven and should go out on loan. this needs to be sorted

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26 Jul 2013 10:13:41
My mothers great aunt is at Heathrow and no sign of Bernard stepping off the BA flight from Brazil.

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Obviously not you fool, he's at Gatwick!

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This is obviously made up. Nobody would say "My mothers great aunt" when there is the personal relationship to use ie "My great great aunt".

CECEGUaW

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Stansted man, Stansted!

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That can't be right, I saw him coming off a boat at Southhampton.

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Just heard he's at stanstead

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No imagination - flew to Norwich!

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26 Jul 2013 10:03:35
i was thinking if we went and bought loic remy we would be unstopable on the counter, imagine theo, ox, remy, santi and jack going at defenders on a counter attack! scary thought ay? we wouldn't need the game changing ability of suarez but we would just need a player that can see and execute a through ball pass just like cesc.

the cannon sweettt

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26 Jul 2013 09:58:49
It's very clear to me that Arsene Wenger has no experience what so ever in buying highly rated footballers.
He must be one of the best when it comes to the game, but SUCKS big time in negotiations.
The strategy before was easy, buy loads of promising kids for a cheap price and hopefully some of the kids will develop into a football star and then sell him and make 100000% profit.

Now is different, and so far AW is doing a terrible job.

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Do you not remember a bloke called Henry? Oh and then there's Petit, Viera, Overmars. I'm sure Cesc as a youngster. YOUNGSTER?

Estepona gooner

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26 Jul 2013 08:19:08
People write as if van Persie and Cesc are the best of friends. I am certain that Cesc is friendlier with AW than with Robin. Almost sure too that AW knows exactly what Cesc's plans are. Else, how would he say something like, "Cesc will stay at Barca for another year. "? I do not think it wise for Cesc to move back to the EPL just after two seasons, having made such a sacrificial effort to go to Spain. Fingers crossed.

Lanz

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We had both cesc and robin and many more top players. In our side and they ALL let us down badly so let's stop drooling over our a ex players and move on. please. what will be will be

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Good point but what if he is creating another blame it all on the player scenario. He might be saying what he said so the club don't get the blame if Cesc goes to MU.

My theory is that MU are trying to create uncertainty in AW's mind about who to go in midfield. Maybe they believe AW wants to try Fellaini so they want confuse the situation.

MiracleGunner

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"I only owe three people in my life, My Mum, Dad and Arsene Wenger. "


Speaking soon after leaving Arsenal.

"I spoke to Wenger on Friday to say goodbye and got very emotional because he has been like a father figure. "I couldn't even talk when I wanted to say how grateful I was for what he has done to me, so I had to send a message afterwards saying thanks for everything. If it was not for him I would not be here today to live my dream. I will never have enough words to say how grateful I am. I went from being a boy to a man and Arsenal gave me absolutely everything in football.

The above says it all.

Plus Wenger and Cesc still speak regularly.

So I would agree with what you're saying!

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It's all good for paper sales!
WG

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We have to realise that it is ONLY the fans that are loyal to the club. Players like all employees [that in reality is what they are]. An ex player owes no allegiance to his former club. Sadly that includes Cesc, if he feels there is more for him at Utd than us then that is where he will end up

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26 Jul 2013 08:08:54
Hi ed, Ivan gazidis's boastful claims regarding our war chest and our ability to buy wayne Rooney, if we so wished, has massively hampered our ability to secure deals for our transfer targets. Declaring our cash rich situation, has made any seller think "bingo, let's take this lot to the cleaners". The stupidity of his statement, has scuppered the grenier deal, no doubt. The Lyon chairman wanted 25 mill for a player in the last year of his contract. Now liverpool's stance is founded on the knowledge "loadsofmoney" arsenal, have a very big piggy bank. Gazidis admissions were made to get beleaguered season ticket holders to renew, in the promise of a influx of galacticos coming in this summer. I don't want suarez at 40 or so million, not worth it, not for a player who yearns to play in Spain. You can thank ivan the terrible for the lack of transfer activity, I wonder if gazidis is being charged 20 quid for a pint of milk, by his local newsagent. We could have gone about our business quietly and efficiently but thanks to Ivan, everyone wants to empty the satchel. Unbelievable! Ray barboni

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Totally agree- should've kept his mouth shut and just got on with business. Then perhaps we may been pleasantly surprised by the signings.

When the win closed, he could've then spoken about that arsenal have turned a corner financially etc.

Instead we have been getting the sugar daddy treatment! £$££$£$£$

Really stupid.

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Are you sure this statement did not come from pressure of supporters to spend money? you can't have it both ways! supporters want the club to spend money be linked to big names and know everything about all transfer activity, then when this is afforded to them they moan that, doing business's this way is stopping us from signing players pfffft!
RD

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You do realise all that financial information is open to the public so any person could work out our cash reserves

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26 Jul 2013 09:48:17
There is a huge waiting list for both season tickets and silver membership. I think he made the comment about having 70m per season to put the ball in Wengers court. In my opinion is Wenger who has not wanted to spend the money over the last few years. Our CEO gets the stick hence the comment. km

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That statement was to ensure that people renewed their season tickets

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The 'pressure from supporters' is a weak argument. Ivan is paid to do the job to the best of his abilities - not placate supporters. If he can't do that - maybe he shouldn't be on the board.

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26 Jul 2013 11:39:25
As reported in figures released November 2012 cash reserves of £123.3m and no short tem debt. I think the long term debt is fixed in a low interest loan over 20 years which is very low. The wage bill has been trimmed down to allow for new players.

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I view it as the final end to all those AKBs declaring it was the board who refused to spend money - A very clear statement of available money and "it is up to the manager to spend it" laying the responsability firmly at Wengers door to get out and get the business done.

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26 Jul 2013 12:08:15
As reported on November 2012 cash reserves of £123.3m up from the last years £115m. this is not taking into account the new stadium and kit logo of around 30m x 5 years. this is up from the upfront payment we got from emirates of 40m which went to the building of the stadium. The new kit deal which should come into force in 2014 is worth 30m per season which is £21m per season more than we receive from our present deal from Nike. The fact that we have not been going on pre season Asian tours for many years unlike utd, and not won any silverware in 8 years tells you that there is huge room for improvement in financial terms. Taking this all into account we have plenty of money to buy top players. At a guess I think we have trimmed around 250k to 300k of our weekly wage bill and if we sell gilvinho we could save more as well as banking some more money. Also we are still owed money from both cesc and song deals which is the 3 instalments. As for season tickets, the waiting list is around 10 years at present. So even if 800 people don't renew, there would be plenty of people waiting in the wings. KM

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Does anyone think that any of the worlds top clubs don't know exactly how much money all the other clubs have? What Ivan said was for the fans benefit and for the media-

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26 Jul 2013 07:59:08
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers says Suarez's desire to join Arsenal "does not add up" and that he is already at a bigger club than the Gunners.

Full story: Daily Telegraph

; This is desperation, we have been there before. See how it feels.

Good times are here you gunners.

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It must be the air on Merseyside that makes people so deluded

1404
Say no to Suarez

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This guy ( rogers) is heading for a massive fall this year I think! I don't believe he will handle the pressure of losing Suarez and might go a little bonkers! he has not been around long enough to be critising arsenal as a club and our ambitions! mark my words this will be his last season in Liverpool!
RD

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If we are humble ofc Liverpool are a big club. Great history and tradition, still a big fan base, etc.

We're not exactly small and are 3rd in this country behind the pool and utd.

But the main difference right now is that we are in a great position financially, so can build a title challenging squad in the next few seasons (I should say potentially, because they actually have to spend!).

So, if anything its a really good time to join arsenal as we enter a new era after paying off most of our stadium debt (that's I would sell it to any potential new players anyway!).

We are further down the road in "recovery" if you like compared to Liverpool.

We are couple of seasons away from having 70-80 mil a season to spend on transfers and that's *every year*, without debt (many clubs would dream of that).

We really are in a great position.

Lets hope the club and wenger live up to that potential and aspire to a new era for arsenal.
LG

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1404
You have my vote on Saurez
Flybo

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Rogers will not survive the campaign this season, he just is not the manager people thought he was at Swansea. Mid table at best!

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26 Jul 2013 06:45:43
I am off to the Thailand all stars v Liverpool match on Sunday. I will be running the rule over Louis Suarez. I will post on Monday about his body language and greeting from the local fans. I'll report on his play in general too as that might reflect his current thinking, though I expect a professional display from him.

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Il be surprised if you see him at all

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If he comes on for a short period he is maybe definitely leaving Liverpool. If he doesn't come on that's a definate. If they say he sustained an injury that's a double guarantee he is leaving.

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26 Jul 2013 06:03:17
I just hope van persie is not keeping united informed about cesc because i'm sure he has his number.

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Because no-one at Arsenal has Cesc's number.

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26 Jul 2013 03:30:03
I never understood fellow Arsenal fans love for Fabregas, after he engineered his move to Barcelona despite being captain and having 3 years left on his contract. I believe he will move to Man U, encouraged by Van Persie to join. Perhaps Arsenal fans will wake up and see Fabregas for what he is. I hope that this paves the way for us to step up and sign Fellaini, although I have a horrible feeling Wenger thinks he has sufficient central midfield options. I believe we will make 3 signings at best, being a central defender, a wide player and a forward.
I think we will stick with the keeping options we have. With a 4th centre back, we will have two options for each of the defensive positions. We will use Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Rosicky, Cazorla, Abu Diaby (when fit) & Ox. For the wide positions, Walcott, Podolski, Ox & a new signing. Up front, Giroud, Sonago & a new signing. A few youngsters will complete the squad. I have a feeling Szczesney & Fabianski will have done enough during the friendlies to convince Wenger to stick with them for the first half of the season and review this decision during the January window, if necessary. In order for us to compete I believe we need an additional powerful defensive midfield player, as Abu Diaby is expected to be out until December and even then is so injury prone he can't be relied on. I would make every effort to sign: Williams, Fellaini, Nani & Suarez. All experienced Premiership players, who would transform our squad into one that can compete at the top for honours. They would cost an affordable £90m ish, with some funds coming in from the sales of Mannone, Gervinho, Bendtner (fingers crossed), this would bring our net outlay to somewhere in the £70ish million region.

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You almost had me until you said Nani

Baysie Gooner

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I agree with you. We may not need Cesc, our mid has enough quality. Even Rambo who many thot was the weakest has been impressing since the latter part of last season and pre-season. Both Cesc and RVP were with us, what did we win?
I do not agree on Nani though, very incosistent.

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REALITY CHECK! Our midfiel does not have enough quality, we came fourth last season, not first. Improvements are a must!

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Nani! Nani and Suarez! Oh my god we'd only ever have nine players standing at any one time.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

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We always knew and it was just a matter of time before cesc went to barca.

I understand that and have never had a beef about that.

If he wants to come back, he would be welcomed by me, that's for sure.

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I find the comments relating to my original comment interesting. Firstly, the Fabregas love in continues! don't forget he walked out on his beloved Barca as a 15 year old to join us. Then he craftily engineered a move to Barca, which didn't work out. He hasn't been a first team regular and his lack of pace is apparent. Now he seems to be leaving his beloved Barca to join his mate Van Pussy at Man U. In respect of Nani, he is one of those players you love to hate, a bit like Suarez, but he is a very good player & would improve our squad.

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26 jul 2013 01:53:49
"(hey soccer fans. arsenal wenger is plotting a major psychological transfer of his time which will not only bring man united, man city and chelsea but will bring the likes of barcelona, beyer and and real madrid to their knees. inspired by defeating european champions at their home ground, arsenal have not lost any game since then and intends not to lose any game in the near future. this is the time he was waiting for while others bought players, he kept his money. he has more money than what he is revealing for transfer.

how will this be possible? watch his (manager arsene wengers) transfers. he is one of the greatest coaches in europe and he will do it. he is preparing for a major upset in european soccer)"



Do you remember when i posted the above article some of you called it bold statements without source. do you notice the bold moves wenger is taking. let me know your thoughts.

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1. This is not an article, this is a comment.
2. What is a 'psychological transfer'?
3. By 'Beyer' do you mean Leverksuen or Munich? Because we could not come close to bringing Bayern 'to their knees'.
4 *Cough* FOOTBALL! *Cough*
5. I believe you when you say he has more money than he is letting on.

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It's not a bold statement its just nonsense, doesn't make sense unless you mean that he is going to dismantle all top teams in Europe and bring them to the Emirates. So next season we will be watching the likes of messi, ronaldo etc me thinks not

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I think you may have something there, I think Wenger has come up with a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel.

Our transfer antics have been so inept and ludicrous that whilst other teams are on their knees laughing at us we sneak in and score a few goals before they recover and start playing.

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You need a bit more clarity in your thinking. But from what I can gather, no offence, bit it all seems like pure fantasy.

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26 Jul 2013 00:58:36
Ed - do you know if Arsenal still have an active interest in Capoue?

I read that he is perhaps stalling on a move to Cardiff?
For a fee of 8 million, he would be a top addition to the midfield for any team {Ed027's Note - I don't know what we are doing holding mid wise, seems we are concentrating on Suarez. If Cesar accepts our wages we will get him as GK if not I don't think we will get anyone. No CB imo Wenger thinks we've got enough, that leaves a Gervinho replacemet...

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I don't think Wenger believes we need any central/defensive midfield reinforcements. He has seen an improvement in Ramsey's form and having Wilshere fit and being able to use Oxlade, as well as Rosicky & Cazorla. So, no midfield player will be signed. Unfortunately, as I would love to see Fellaini signed to protect the defence alongside Arteta. Allowing Wilshere to push forward and link up with Cazorla, where I believe he is best played.

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26 Jul 2013 00:43:30
Hi guys and Eds, just wanted to know that if somehow Cesc returned to Arsenal how would you fit him into the current team? Would you push Cazorla wide and leave out Poldi? Personally I would play him as a CM and play Cazorla as a CAM with Ramsey or Arteta as a defensive mid. {Ed027's Note - No Wilshere?

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I'd go for Cazorla on the left and Cesc as CAM.

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That is my problem with cesc coming, where to play him?
and who will he replace?
i'm guessing he will take the arteta role

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Id go back to 442

cesc and jack in the middle, santi lm theo rm and poldi and giroud up front.

but tbh I don't want to leave out the ox or rambo or arteta.

yeah rotation but still you can't play every other match, especially messing with the midfield.

tough decision. alternatively play a similar 433 (of the CAM variant) and rotate jack, ox, santi, arteta and rambo.

so possible best midfield combos would be:
----Santi-----
Jack----Arteta
----OX-----
Jack---Cesc
----Santi---
Arteta--Cesc
----OX-----
Jack--Rambo

the last one being a young, but athletic and very determined mentality!

santi arteta cesc works because of the spanish link.

ox jack cesc would be pretty creative, and still a bit pacy!

and santi jack arteta is what we played this season. which everyone seems to think is bad personally I think it worked

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Disloyal Fabregas will not return to Arsenal, he will turn up at Man U, to join his pal Van Pussy.

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I also have the feeling that if Cesc does leave he will go to United. Also please do not put Cazorla on the left as he is not a winger and playing him there ruins our shape. Cazorla should be AMF, or behind the front man.

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26 Jul 2013 00:31:44
we lost out on higuain over a matter of 3 million quid (no surprise there). forget 50 million for the racist, we only need to go to 45 mill. julio (window cleaner ) cesar is not happening, and as of now, nothing else is in the pipeline. this information I have gleaned from a very good friend of mine who works in the "football agent" industry. I usually post skeletal meanderings and abuse, but this time it is purely truthful I promise!
willesden gooner

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No it isn't. It's made up bull**** to annoy the fans and turn them against the club.

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I agree with Ted. also what's this ONLY need to go to 45million. at the start of all this it was expected he would go for between 20 and 30. biut of a difference!! especially for an unproven player as far as prem goes

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26 Jul 2013 00:34:16
ed52. you seem to be quite confident that rm want both bale and suarez?

its just graham h. (not always right, but he's pretty good most of the time), seems certain (in speaking with agents, club officials, other contacts/sources in spain), at least for now, that suarez is a "distinctly second prospect".

that they are actively pursuing bale and behind the scenes are rising the money to buy him and that suarez will only be on the agenda if the capture of bale fails.

wonder if you've heard different or whether its a hunch you have?
thanks
lg {Ed052's Note - it's just what I've heard. They wanted both at the begining so I don't see anything has changed. }

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Ok fair enough thanks. Could be that money is an issue, Spanish economy is a disaster. I guess we'll know soon enough one way or another. Cheers

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26 Jul 2013 00:28:16
Bernard going to porto? :s

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