Arsenal Banter Archive June 27 2017

27 Jun 2017 16:44:25
How on earth is chambers getting the nod over holding in the U21's? Mind blowing.

27 Jun 2017 21:04:51
Played well in the semis tonight mate though.

27 Jun 2017 22:14:54
To be fair to the lad, he looked the business until wenger played him out of position at rb and he lost his confidence. He has had very good reviews of his time at boro. As a center back.

28 Jun 2017 06:52:34
In response to Steve r, did Chambers not arrive at the club as a RB and Wenger then transformed him into a CB? Chambers is only 22 and CB's usually don't mature at PL level until around their mid-20's. He was horribly exposed in our old system where the full backs suffered from very little cover, culminating in a dire performance away at Palace from Bellerin, shortly afterwards we went to 3 at the back and defensive security resulted. After a season on loan, playing more regularly Chambers has clearly benefitted and there are reportedly 2 or 3 PL clubs interested in him. The good thing is that we have both Chambers and Holding coming through, as Koscielny and Mertesacker are in their 30's. I would like to keep him at the club next season, with 3 CB's being played we need 5 or 6 options, with Merte, Kos, Gabriel, Mustafi and Holding and Chambers who can cover at right wing back.

28 Jun 2017 13:27:19
Rg at youth level he played center back right back holding mid, he did play for Southampton now and then at rb but he was bought for his position of center back.

27 Jun 2017 12:40:13
Can't remember the last time so many of our players were linked with moves away: Sanchez, Ozil (but not really, no one seems to want the lazy git) , the Ox, Bellerin, Giroud Walcott. meanwhile nothing is said about the fringe players that we should have placed in a bargain bin outside the emirates.

Can't help but feel this wouldn't have happened had the club not spent the year with Wenger playing with our feelings like my teenage crush. Fifth place didn't worry me, so long as the club could consolidate after the setback. But now, everything seems in flux and that is worrisome.

Really, all I want is decisive action, someone to put their foot down and say, "You're staying, you're going, were buying you, and Emmanuel Éboue you're coming back in as player-coach and captain. " Even if some of those would be bad decisions, at least we'd do something.

27 Jun 2017 11:22:53
Lyons president in the press again today saying Lacazette cannot leave until they find a replacement as the other 2 lads they signed aren't replacements.

This man really does annoy me. Seems intent on talking to the press every day almost like mind games. Ed002 said Lyon are very difficult to do business with. Can see that especially over the last week.

27 Jun 2017 11:36:45
Then don't deal with him, simples.
Why would you want to subject yourself to someone elses games when there are so many different players and presidents chairman directors of football to deal with.
People can only play games with those who are willing to participate in their game.

27 Jun 2017 11:47:01
True. But they have the player we want. Wouldn't surprise me if the deal isn't that far away but he is just trying to feed his own ego.

27 Jun 2017 14:02:32
He who pays the piper calls the tune in that case 16 mate :-)
Personally I'd do my shopping else where if the service is that bad, the market isn't exactly paper thin on strikers looking to move not to mention those who might be if an interested club showed willing?

27 Jun 2017 14:27:52
Fergie wanted RVP Arsene didn't want to sell to Fergie so Fergie so paid over the odds to change Arsene's mind.
Fergie went on to win the title that seasons with RVP getting the golden boot.
Sometimes you've just to just bite the bullet and pay what it takes to the pieces that complete your masterpiece, Fergie was no stranger to paying what it took to get what he wanted even when it looked a lot at the time Rooney £30 million for 18 year old all those years ago? Rio Ferdinand 30 million for a defender before that? Eyebrows were raised at the time but title after title were raised long after the eyebrows had recovered :-)
If we really need Lacazette then do what it takes to get him even if it's uncomfortable to do it and if he isn't that special then move on to other targets in my opinion.

27 Jun 2017 14:38:25
Thing is, when you get someone like that, you should use it to your own advantage. No doubt if he was speaking that way towards possible negotiations with someone like Barca, you might suddenly see articles in certain Spanish papers stating such comments like "he is playing games with his players careers for his own ego" etc etc. next thing Lacazette starts to believe this hype and hands in a transfer request and publicly states he will never play for this man again. result. deal done.

27 Jun 2017 17:20:37
Giroud is the replacement.

27 Jun 2017 17:21:07
Gunner62 who would you go for then he's really the only striker that we can get, please don't say Mbappe or Aubameyang as they won't come.

27 Jun 2017 19:02:57
Maybe playing or appearing to play hardball so their fans don't think they will just sell the best players to whomever comes calling, really don't blame him.

27 Jun 2017 20:03:07
Jelfy you ain't going to like my answer but I would definitely make Sturridge part of the Ox to Liverpool deal, sure he had injuries but the boy is full of goals goals goals and will be banging them in again next season for someone.
Liverpool want Ox I'm pretty sure Ox wants Liverpool and we need a natural goal scorer and Danny Sturridge is exactly that.

28 Jun 2017 00:11:05
The lyon president is known to be that way. He has rubbed so many people the wrong way. One person who outdid him in my opinion is the spurs chairman daniel levy but wenger doesn't know how to play dirty he is a gentleman.

28 Jun 2017 14:16:53
Id swap ox for sturrige, sounds good to me.

27 Jun 2017 05:09:09
Morning Eds. Can you help me out here. I may be sounding a bit thick! But can you please tell me which club benefits from a swap deal between Aguero and Sanchez? .
I know it would probably be plus some sort of money but I just can't get my head around the point of it all.
If I had to guess I would say that Man City would be getting the better deal in terms of securing the best player so what do Arsenal gain from it. Thanks for this one it's actually baffling me.

{Ed001's Note - well Aguero does not suit Citeh's style of play and Pep doesn't really want him. Sanchez suits the style of play and Pep wants him.

Arsenal lack a proper goalscorer and Aguero is certainly that. He is also very suited to Arsenal's style of play and fully familiar with the club policy of regular injury breaks. Plus Sanchez and Wenger do not see eye to eye.}

27 Jun 2017 05:22:48
So in all you would say it's a good move for us although Aguero has been carrying a few injuries? .

{Ed001's Note - I think it makes sense for both clubs. You both get a player that suits the club and style of play.}

27 Jun 2017 05:23:57
Thanks though mate. That is quite reassuring.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

27 Jun 2017 06:21:34
Morning ed01,

How does the wage side of things sit with Arsenal as Aguero is on £220,000 a week over £11 million a year.

Is that a figure you think Arsenal or more likely Arsene is going to pay albeit the swap is unlikely.

{Ed001's Note - they are willing to pay Sanchez more, so I doubt there will be an issue paying Aguero that much.}

27 Jun 2017 06:43:02
If Sanchez wants out, Aguero would be a fabulous signing, especially if we sign Lacazette in addition, as this would make up for the loss of Sanchez. However, if reports are correct, Wenger wants to keep Giroud, so I can only see Lacazette as a replacement for Sanchez. I would love Sanchez to stay and Lacazette to arrive.

27 Jun 2017 07:55:45
RG. Let's try and simplify that.
Sanchez is going. I think that's a given.
Aguero may! be coming in.
Giroud looks like he is going (or sitting on the bench) .
Lacazette may be coming in.
That's about it! So far .

27 Jun 2017 08:24:55
Would Ageuro come though?
Money is one thing but what about competitiveness?
I know we will sell our selfs as being determined to become competitive again but surely others with a better recent record on that and who can offer champions league football would also be interested in him too?
It's not a case of being negative or putting us down but it's a fact we have been a very long time in the title chasing wilderness and all the talk of things being different has been heard by all so many times before, I'm not saying things definitely won't be different this time just that there has been lots of talk lots of times before that came to nothing.
I'm not sure Ageuro would be prepared to gamble the rest of his career on joining us.

27 Jun 2017 09:32:14
Lanesra - I though my comment wasn't complicated and didn't need to be written for the simple amongst us.
There are a few problems with Aguero being exchanged with Sanchez:
1) . I can't recall Wenger doing a swop deal. Correct me if I'm incorrect.
2) Would Aguero want to stay in England, if he were to move, as South American players tend to suit the lifestyle in Spain or Italy.
3) Would Aguero want to sign for a team outside the top European teams? and not in the Champions League.
I would love to see Aguero join if Sanchez departs and it seems an intelligent way of keeping both clubs and their supporters happy.

27 Jun 2017 09:50:33
Swapped A. Cole for Gallas.

27 Jun 2017 12:33:26
RG. There's a lot of 'Woulds' in your question mate.
My answer is "who knows? "