Arsenal Banter Archive August 19 2017

19 Aug 2017 21:14:58
Alright lads, how's your weekend going?
Mine has been great so far :)

Serious question, for me u don't have the midfield to play 3 at the back but if u persist with it wouldn't Elneny be better suited?
I understand he's not a top top player but he has the type of style u need for me with a back 3.

Xhaka and Ramsey although better players are not right and to ill displined for me.

19 Aug 2017 22:03:36
You know it mate, I know it, most Arsenal fans know it, but we will carry on with it a bit longer if it's all the same to you ctr mate.
It's what we do :-)

19 Aug 2017 22:27:14
It's a bag of smashed crabs CTR! I think we both look rubbish for different reasons mate 👍.

19 Aug 2017 23:11:40
That's the thing Gunner, I don't understand at all why you are doing it.

I know u had a few wins at the backend of last season when teams were on the beach and u nabbed the fa cup playing it. But at no point watching those games did I think 'wow this formation really suits arsenal'.

It is forcing u to play players out of positions to accommodate it that is clearly going to cause u problems when being caught out as they don't have the right tools around them to execute the formation correctly.

U need a Coq and Elneny type partnership in CM, a ball winner and a sitter that will break forward.

Problem is that combo is not good enough to get top 5 let alone top 4.

Go back to 4 at the back put players where they are comfortable and give Bould (I understand he now has a bigger say in defence duties) the chance to build them up in positions they know and understand already.

Odd, but u are just as likely to win 2-1 as u are to lose next week.

How easy it is for Liverpool next week in the CL is important for me. If they play well and go into the game with there tails up it could be bad.

19 Aug 2017 23:26:12
Ctr that's the point, the whole team lacks discipline.

19 Aug 2017 20:27:30
Sorry being negative or is it real but like i said before, we haven't addressed our defensive frailties. Xhaka and ramsey is not very good and monreal at center back is an accident waiting to happen. that's for starters.

19 Aug 2017 20:54:55
Probably the most obvious weakness that most people have agreed on all summer is the Xhaka Ramsey partnership, some I know think it works but I think most have had real concerns about it.

19 Aug 2017 21:29:47
Ramsey brings those fantastic forward runs into our side, something we really need to break teams down. Xhaka, in my opinion, is someone we can upgrade.

19 Aug 2017 21:42:15
Hey up steve I bet your buzzing been right again. Must be a real trick you have there. It's how you offset your disappointment today Arsenal we're shite and steve was right. 😂😅😂.

19 Aug 2017 23:17:12
Sano, believe it or not and I'm sure you won't. I don't get any pleasure from it at all. I want us to win more than most and my opinion doesn't make any difference to the result, surprise surprise.

19 Aug 2017 23:23:43
And sano if you actually posted instead of sledging, we might see what your thoughts actually are.

{Ed033's Note - But sano needs to practise sledging for when he appears as Santa (or is it Satan?).

19 Aug 2017 23:39:20
yeah it is big worry that partnership of Ramsey and Xhaka, just does not shield the defence well enough. We need to find better if we are ever going improve. Our best recent partnership was Coq and Cazorla but that is not going to happen anytime soon. A fit Cazorla is almost as vital as Sanchez in the side for me.

19 Aug 2017 23:51:32
Sforza he his supposed to be our upgrade. Lol.

20 Aug 2017 00:34:17
I would be all over the watford manager lads impresses me.

19 Aug 2017 20:10:39
all i can say is its fecking comical! already!

19 Aug 2017 20:18:58
Well at least we can laugh about it.

19 Aug 2017 20:33:11
Comical that Granit again gives a stupid ball away and costs a goal. He's there to pass. If he can't tackle and his passing is causing more issues at our end.

I like him but two at fault goals in two games 😡.

19 Aug 2017 20:44:10
I am an Ozil fan also but we play with 10 at times with Jim. We know that so the central midfield core needs to be strong and disciplined. We are not! 😡

What's Steve and Jens doing.

19 Aug 2017 23:57:49
We agree on that sy.

20 Aug 2017 00:03:21
Sy and one player who doesn't deserve a pay rise is ozil.

19 Aug 2017 19:57:31
It's such a weird feeling when we lose I don't get that angry rage and hate towards wenger like I usually get this past few seasons now I kind off just accept we are useless and will be until wenger finally leaves.

Wenger always talks about mentality etc but wev lost our winning mentality under him the players have no fight or no passion

Obviously I hated not winning trophies but when we were playing amazing football it kind of took the hurt away now we play crap football we need to learn passing side to side and backwards while the opposition team sit in front of us isn't going to get us much goals. We need to run at teams the way they run at us we need our players to take the game by the scruff and go for it not pass pass pass pass pass pass with a few mins to go and is being a goal down

Can't wait until the day wenger leaves and another manager comes in just hope he gets the time to build a team as it will take a few years because of the state of the team wenger has built but for now I'm just going to suck it up and wait for the next 2 years to go by and see what situation we are in.

By the way I don't usually go on websites to complain or to slander our manager lol but think iv just had enough we are a joke we struggle against bottom half teams on a weekly basis.

19 Aug 2017 20:44:43
this passing sideways and backwords is getting beyond a joke, its like we have signed Denilson. it would help if Xhaka knew his team mates were in red shirts. Wellbeck showed why united didn't want him. ozil is a luxury player that we can't use. were boring and its becoming the normal.

19 Aug 2017 20:51:00
Black shirts today apologies.

19 Aug 2017 19:34:46
No invincible season for us.

Even when we have 70 to 80% possession we still look vulnerable

Unlucky not to get a penalty and another Lacazette goal but so vulnerable and little hunger / desire. We have also sacrificed counter attacking football for possession - thus means weak in defence and attack.

19 Aug 2017 20:10:27
Same usual story dominated possession and territory but created few clear chances and struggling to break down packed defences. This just shows you how vital Sanchez is really, if he plays today we win by a few goals I reckon. Just not moving the ball quick enough. Early days ofcourse still but this does not bode well if we can't win games that we dominate so much. Wellbeck is not a striker Giroud should start ahead of him every time.

19 Aug 2017 20:23:17
Ryan welbeck was one of the few players today that worked. Giroud can't start He too slow and doesn't work hard enough. he's not clinical either to try and make an argument.

19 Aug 2017 20:30:17
Ryan, that doesn't sort the other end of the pitch because once we attack more - we will have to defend more also as possession will drop. We struggle with 70% possession - wait till it's a 50/ 50 game

Gave the ball away too easily

Not decisive enough in attack

Didn't want to win the ball back enough

Lacked defensive structure while not attacking great

Why was Per not on the pitch if fit for the bench.

19 Aug 2017 23:35:01
Wellbeck is ok as wide man as he can help stretch defences but as central striker he is has not got the knowhow of a striker when in and around the box. His touch and technic is very erratic to say the least, sometimes he will do something skilful but a lot of the time in front of goal he will fluff his lines. Not saying Giroud is a world beater but he is better in the air has more a reliable touch in tight situations and physically stronger to hold off defenders and ultimately a more reliable finisher when compared to Wellbeck anyway. Wellbs has the pace over him but that is just about it. I am not really having go at him as he was not the not reason we lost today, but he ait a starter for me.

We were just we not incisive enough today and did not move the ball quickly enough. The problem is when you have so much possession that is all the opposing do then is jus defend then that becomes their mindset to sit deep behind the ball and it is very hard to break that down, this is where players like Shanchez make that difference.

19 Aug 2017 19:23:39
Is anyone else concerned about our struggles against mid-level opposition? Is this what we should expect for the season? We were maybe unlucky not to have been awarded Lacazette's goal, but there is a distinct level of indecisiveness, and a lack of leadership. I'm mostly writing because I don't know how things can get better.

19 Aug 2017 19:58:42
Refs decisions usaully even themselves out over a season, the Ozil handball in the build up for our goal v Leicester?
It's swings and roundabouts for us like everyone else with officials decisions.

19 Aug 2017 20:15:06
Well on a positive note, we haven't got to play at stoke again this season. So happy days.

19 Aug 2017 20:25:16
There is certainly a lack of drive in the side, and the uncertainty off the pitch appears to be contributing to the hesitation on it. My view is get shot of Sanchez to a foreign club for as much as we can - nobody is bigger tha the club. Equally, ship off Oxlade-Chamberlain - he is not worth 150k a week in my view. Do what is necessary to sign Draxler, Van Dijk, and Seri.

It's going to be a long, miserable season otherwise.

19 Aug 2017 18:18:49
Need a change of formation for the second half 4-2-31

Bellerin
Mustafi
Monreal
Kolasnic

Xhaka
Ramsey
Ozil

Welbeck
Ox
Laca.

19 Aug 2017 08:45:20
Hi guys i think we will sign 1 maybe 2 players nut chill it ain't all bad finally won our first game of the season and i'm liking the way most of the team look i think a cdm is a must cb give chambers ago looked good last year at borough let's get behind the team.

19 Aug 2017 11:33:57
I think our signings have ended.

19 Aug 2017 11:54:44
I hope not Wesley . I still think 1-2 will be purchased . I think Sanchez will stay and if he does the club will know under what proviso it will be . We need to add In my opinion and prepare for when.

18 Aug 2017 23:41:03
New on here so here we go. Does anyone think we're capable of getting draxler and if he would change the team also. Would seri be worth a shot could he make a difference. And lastly do you think that we missed cazorla massively and need a player in his mould again keep the ball moving nice a sharp.

19 Aug 2017 07:04:07
I can't see any further signings, just departures, hopefully not any of the 3 top players in thei last year of their deals. Altough, despite Wenger's stance, I can't see staying if big offers come in. I would guess that Sanchez and possibly Ox will depart. Ozil will stay as I can't see any demand for him at a high transfer fee and the sort of wages on offer at present.

19 Aug 2017 09:30:14
My guess is Sanchez will be sold this window as a non interested Sanchez isn't really worth keeping and losing out on a fee for future buys, if he goes I'm sure we will sign a quality player before the window shuts too.
I think Mesut will go to Turkey next summer on a free as for some reason he just doesn't seem to have many options, which does surprise me.