Arsenal Banter Archive August 10 2016

10 Aug 2016 22:11:16
Definitely not posting this as if he's the answer to our problems, but does anyone have a clue what's happened to Sanogo? He hasn't featured in pre-season at all so he clearly doesn't seem to be in Wenger's plans any more, but he hasn't been released and has barely featured in the news since that suspension he received while on loan at Charlton. Has he retired from football altogether or something?

If he doesn't emerge as the answer to our problems after we inevitably don't sign a CF, then he really must be totally off the radar.

10 Aug 2016 23:43:48
Strange that 3 years ago he was preferred to Giroud to start the cup final verse Hull then 2 seasons ago scored a hattrick in the charity shield and since then nothing.

10 Aug 2016 23:56:49
After his 4 tap ins pre season a couple of years ago wasn't he the next Henry lol.

11 Aug 2016 00:37:20
His 'celebration' after one of those tap ins encapsulates him perfectly. The poor donkey should have been put down years ago, metaphorically speaking about his football career.

He's a prime example of bossing youth football due to early physical development. He's in the same bracket as Jay Emmanuel-Thomas and Chuks Aneke, neither of which made the grade.

11 Aug 2016 06:55:13
All I can say is. Don't tempt fate!
We've got enough problems.
We don't need Sanogo turning up to add to them.

11 Aug 2016 11:52:24
Sanogo, typifies Arsenal's problems of giving the wrong players long, lucrative contracts and them having to keep paying them until the contract expires. Bendtner was a prime example.

10 Aug 2016 21:25:29
We will receive £30m for shirt sponsorship this season.

Just saying.

10 Aug 2016 21:48:47
And 30 million from the Emirates and we have no money

100 million new TVs deal

200 million sitting in the bank

What an effing joke we are.

10 Aug 2016 21:57:09
That's perfect, just enough to bid for a 50 million pound player! 😉.

10 Aug 2016 22:14:45
Get in there, back of the shed!
What a result 30 million lovely £s to go with that other £200 million.

If we can't beat the clubs ambitions we may as well join them, all together now!
We're by far the richest team the world has ever seen, and it's Arsenal Arsenal ££ :-)

10 Aug 2016 22:21:04
Just shirring the stit more like! :)

That £30 mil will do wonders for the bank balance while Wenger walks the tight rope and fans demand it be used as a noose.

10 Aug 2016 22:28:56
We've spend them on Xhaka already☺☺☺no more signings😕.

10 Aug 2016 23:58:36
We do spend money on things other than transfers as well, don't forget.

10 Aug 2016 19:49:41
Heard Mahrez is having a medical 2pm tomorrow.

He just has to wait for Lacazette, Mustafi and Bony to finish their's :-)

10 Aug 2016 19:56:35
Thing is dags, its at Chelsea.

10 Aug 2016 20:17:17
Poor taste Dags.

10 Aug 2016 20:23:15
Would'nt surprise me Steve :-)

10 Aug 2016 21:13:31
Just trying to lighten the mood Bambam :-)

10 Aug 2016 21:18:58
Let me get this straight - City overpaid for Bony and buy him for 25 million and give him an inflated salary, then he underperforms and they are looking to move him out. So we are going to pick up his salary and pay 30 million. Doesn't sound like a Wenger deal to me,

How about an Adebayor deal - loan for a year with City picking up a big part of the salary for us to help them out.

10 Aug 2016 22:04:14
Bony is far from my first choice.

Man City, unless you are top top quality like Aguero or Kompany, is a player's graveyard.

If we get the Bony from Swansea day's, I would be reasonably happy.

10 Aug 2016 18:51:17
Pogba.

£90m and £290,000 weekly wages.

Jeeeezus.

{Ed041's Note - don't u worry about United :)

10 Aug 2016 19:10:08
Lol Ed,
I never do mate.

Just think how many buses Mourinho could have bought with that money Ed :-)

{Ed041's Note - to carry the trophies hes going to win?

10 Aug 2016 19:22:31
If they can pay it Dags

So what.

10 Aug 2016 19:39:42
Have you abandoned your old alias mate. Not fancy coming for a regular chat Chris.

10 Aug 2016 20:01:39
Behave Ed041.

Pogba to partner Fellaini?

Thats like buying a Bentley for the weekend's, but driving a Skoda for the rest of the week :-)

{Ed041's Note - Fellani wont partner Pogba.

10 Aug 2016 20:25:48
Probably off to Sunderland mate.

{Ed041's Note - hope so.

10 Aug 2016 20:51:40
Hey CTR,

Good to see your spell checker working over time and don't tell me but United have the best midfield in the Prem.

You're still bloody hilarious I'll give you that. 😉.

10 Aug 2016 21:59:43
I had a feeling that reply would confirm it Chris. 😂😂😂😂.

10 Aug 2016 16:12:40
I wonder if Benzema is sitting indoor's thinking "Why hasn't Arsenal been in touch? ".

10 Aug 2016 16:40:39
He's too busy practicing how to hold onto a bar of soap in the shower lol.

10 Aug 2016 18:49:14
And I bet somebody video's it :-)

10 Aug 2016 15:24:06
Hello Gunners.

Liverpool fan here.

interested to get peoples predictions for the game on Sunday.

i am going to predict a Liverpool win (i am always optimistic. despite us never winning at your place) 2-1 i think considering your injuries our attack will have too much for you.

just a bit of fun lads.

10 Aug 2016 15:59:20
I think you'll edge it, but only just. We're going to be playing with 2 genuine holding midfielders with Ramsey just ahead, meaning lots of protection for the back 4.

10 Aug 2016 16:13:37
Struggling to see anything but a Liverpool win, defensive issues plus I'm not sure how much Ozil and Sanchez are going to be able to lift themselves for another also ran season ambition with Arsenal and our failure to add to Giroud up top.
While you're going to be well up for it especially as this is Klopps first full season you will be desperate to get off to a good start.
Arsenal 1 Liverpool 3.

10 Aug 2016 16:13:50
1-1 for me mate.

Hope your boy Sturro is out. Heard he's struggling.

10 Aug 2016 16:30:40
1st goal crucial. I can see the atmosphere turning septic if the pool go 1 up.

10 Aug 2016 17:46:11
3 - 0 Arsenal win I never bet against my team.

10 Aug 2016 17:53:28
Liverpool win for me 2-0 or 3-1.

10 Aug 2016 18:33:49
Im not to sure liverpool defence is that good anyway, we are at home, we have pace in walcott sanchez and iwobi, we have plenty of fit midfielders, I can see liverpool getting two but I can see us getting 3 or 4.

10 aug 2016 19:06:47
gonna be a good game i believe lads. i think injuries are going to cost you from winning it.

10 Aug 2016 20:06:11
TJ,
You could be right mate.

Although, thankfully our best player is not injured.

Simon Mignolet :-)

{Ed001's Note - ouch, harsh but true!}

10 Aug 2016 20:53:50
Ha ha like it dags.

10 Aug 2016 13:26:55
Is it possible that the uncertainty of Wenger's future is a major factor in the lack of transfer activity? A new signing now might not feature in a new managers plans a few months down the line. And players we are trying to sign don't know who the new manager will be. This seems a good reason for reluctance but I'm just speculating.

10 Aug 2016 13:38:45
Or could the reason be we aren't offering enough money and really top top players want to win top top trophies with clubs they think can acieve that. I honestly don't think wenger has decided to leave and no one has actually come out and said so either. I do know, whoever decided it they are delaying him signing or not signing a contract. Its a results game and results win prizes, if wenger were to actually win the league, there wouldn't be any problem. Until that happens there are many.

10 Aug 2016 13:51:39
5 years ago, if you were a young, talented player with something to prove, you came to Arsenal.
The manager would have faith in you, you'd get plenty of game time and you'd be well paid.

Now lots of clubs give youth a chance and we've lost that advantage.

These days, I think the problem is almost the opposite of your point mate.
I think players listen to the offers and think to themselves that if they want to really challenge, they go to Chelsea, City, Utd.

But if you want to go to a club where expectations of you are the minimum for a top club, where you can lose 6-2 and have the manager just ask you to do better next time and generally just have 3-4 years of low pressure, you join Arsenal.

I just feel that players look at us and worry about the lack of ambition shown

The window where we signed Sanchez showed ambition.
Over £100m spent, got Alexis, Debuchy, Chambers and Welbeck in.
1 is still learning, yes.
Debuchy was unfortunate.
But Alexis is a huge success and I'd say Welbz is more a win than a loss.

We don't have to spend that every summer, it's like doing your groceries at home.
You do the big monthly shop at Sainsburys and then pop to tesco in the week to top up milk and bread.

We signed those players, the next summer, just Cech.
If we'd of got Cech and a striker, that's a good window!

But instead we settled on just Cech and paid the price.

I'm 100% sure Arsene will be at Arsenal next summer, just not in what capacity.
He said on SSN today that he will 'work until it's not physically possible, whatever the role' which to me sounds like he's planning for a move upstairs (not sure how I feel about that. 'what do you mean you want x player now, let's wait and see who Madrid cast out yes? ')

10 Aug 2016 14:43:13
In my opinion we now starting to see the results of years of low ambition coming through, players with options would rather join europa league utd or no European football at Chelsea than join us why? Money isn't the only answer it's a an excuse to cover up for the real reason.
Players feel they will compete for and have a real possibility of top honours with Chelsea and Utd while at Arsenal they feel the club isn't that ambitious and are happy to tread water.
Vardy stayed at liecester others weren't interested at all and this is just the beginning of it.
We desperately need to improve our image and standing in the game because even if the majority of Arsenals fans still think we're on the right track the rest of football doesn't.

10 Aug 2016 15:28:39
Is this season's transfer window any different to past window's?

Max £40m spend every summer.

10 Aug 2016 17:52:41
Decent assessments further backed up by the inability to tie down Ozil and Sanchez to new deals.

I'm just clutching at straws trying to make sense of it all.

10 Aug 2016 10:40:34
Does anyone still believe Arsene is the right man to take us forward, everyone has an opinion just interested to see what others are.

10 Aug 2016 11:18:18
Confusias says, if you do the same things you get the same results. Steve says, if you are an old bugger in a race against young people, you get left behind.

10 Aug 2016 11:24:29
No, I think he's tactics are outdated and easily countered and still living in a premier league that existed 10 years ago. There are 7 team that could be capable of winning the league. We're getting caught by Liverpool, West Ham and Tottenham and now it might be to late.

10 Aug 2016 11:35:22
I would love him to be the right man having done so mucg for the club. However, his failure to resolve long standing glarring issues with the side make it very had to beleive he is.

We are being left behind and will end up loosing our best players for nothing.

10 Aug 2016 12:16:56
Sadly not.

Nothing but respect for Arsene, for what he did for this club.
But we shouldn't be living off past glory.

The football world changes rapidly.
In the last 5 years alone, the money has increased, the strength of 'smaller' teams has increased, the quality of managers has increased but Arsenal remain the same.

And in a changing world, staying the same is the equivalent of going backwards.

Arsene had the chance, this squad didn't need much.
We got Xhaka in, good, not necessarily a NEED, but he's certainly a good midfielder and adds things we lack there.
Play him next to Ramsey or Elneny and they'll dominate most midfields.

But we needed a striker and we needed a CB, even before injuries.
We went for Vardy, didn't work out.
So where's plan B?
We have so much money and there are so many options. Bacca, Morata, Lacazette, Hernandez, all players that will improve us and we have the money to tempt their respective clubs, bar maybe Madrid.
CB, again, there are options.
Musacchio, Mustafi, Koulibaly, hell even Sunderlands Kone, would improve our squad (though in fairness, with our current situation, Big Dave down the pub would do)

If a player doesn't want to join, that's fine.
But if we're being stingy that's a different story.
I know people will say 'Arsene doesn't want them or he'd of signed them' and that may be true.
I don't want to use the train every day, but it gets me to work, so I have to.

10 Aug 2016 12:20:19
Mayson, spot on mate.

10 Aug 2016 12:38:44
Yes, While i do agree that he has made a few mistakes with not buying players and all us fans seem to agree with what we need as a team i do not get the notion that we are going backwards or being left behind.
His tactics are outdated or he keeps getting beaten by young fresh managers with new ideas. i just don't see it.
3 league title, (yes a while ago)
most successful manager in the fa cup (recently twice)
most consistent top 4 manager (not celebrating but this is the goal for a lot of managers)
None of these so called younger better managers are winning anything or finishing consistently above us.

10 Aug 2016 13:03:25
I believe Arsene has built a good squad here regardless of what people say he has and we're close to being strong competitors i feel. However all that work building this will be undone if we don't get anyone else in. As I said above ozil and Alexis May well look to leave if this is the case and that will set us back so much.

10 Aug 2016 13:17:37
Thanks everyone for responding

my own opinion is it's time to go i have had the same conversation every year i want Arsene to prove me wrong to go into the transfer market and not spend a £100 million on one player but just to complete the jigsaw and if we have to pay a little more so be it we can afford it and that's why we move form Highbury, my frustration is its only ever 2 players and maybe a third to make this team very special its also going into games knowing the tactics as do the other managers and we are easily beaten due to the fact we never change things up playing players in positions that just don't work for them, we won most if not all of our titles under wenger playing 4-4-2 so why not try it out have a plan B just rather then continuing with the same thing game after game.

transfers are such a sore point can you imagine if we had a new CB a new CF and maybe a Mahrez on top of Xhaka and what we have already then we really would be ready and we have the money, but again we go into the season with the same problems and we was promised last year mistakes were made and it wouldn't happen again and here we are

like i said i loved Arsene and respected him but year after year that has disappeared and right now i have no belief we can win the league again loved to be proven wrong and for Arsene to walk out a winner but i can't see that happening.

10 Aug 2016 13:27:53
Agree Gunnerbreal, but as D_ pointed out, not going forward is going backwards.

It doesn't matter if we have the greatest manager in world football in charge, if he doesn't strenghten the team and address needed issue's, than we will not progress.

10 Aug 2016 13:41:48
D16 but that's always the problem, he fails to build a good squad year after year. His squads miss vital elements.

10 Aug 2016 15:40:46
Yes look what he's done for the club.

10 Aug 2016 15:16:41
breal, that's because other managers can be sacked for underperforming. they never get a chance to win the trophies wenger has won in the past.

10 Aug 2016 16:48:53
I get you point dags, but i would also say that not going backwards when everybody else id apparently going forwards is still going forwards other wise we would have dropped far lower than we have.

in the last 3 seasons we have won 2 cups and finished 2nd in the league (our highest finish for years) signed 3 world class players, not player that have turned into world class like before but established world class players which we have not done for a very long time

I guess its what people see as under performing, only 1 team can win the league, so should 19 manager be sacked at the end of every season? we have never won champ league, domestic cups we do well in, don't get me wrong i would love to win the league and although i am wenger in i do also believe and hope that he does leave at the end of his contract, as i do feel that we need a change or the whole feeling of the club could drag us down.

however i am of the feeling that once he has gone, we may well find our self out of Europe all together and that's why i feel he is still the right man.

But we will see soon enough i guess and i obviously hope i am wrong.

10 Aug 2016 09:18:59
I've always been a staunch Wenger supporter and I still think the bloke is a footballing genius but I finally think he needs to leave.

Unless he surprises me this window and signs 2-3 good quality players (cb, cf, rw (wouldn't mind seeing Gnabry there though) ) then I can easily see us finishing 6th if not lower.

If that happens I think there may be a few transfer requests come next summer.

Sad to say it but Wenger Out!

09 Aug 2016 18:59:30
I'd be happy with mustfi and little pea Proven goal scorer in he Prem and would suit our style of play 20/ 25 goals easy.

10 Aug 2016 00:14:40
No way will we sign another 2 players, even though we need them.

Wenger will turn his attention's to just a Centre Half, probably Mustafi.