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07 Aug 2013 22:53:03
Hi eds, who is actually interested in Fellini. And who do u reckon he will go too (if he does) cheers. {Ed027's Note - I and most of the other Eds think he's gong to Utd, Moyes really wants him, he turned down thiago as he is to much of a fairy, and he's chasing lost causes with cesc
07 Aug 2013 22:38:30
Ed027. respect to you I hope you are right mate. keep our fingers crossed. {Ed027's Note - what about 'confused face'
07 Aug 2013 22:07:57
I have totally had enough of Brandon bloody Rodgers bleeting on about us, did he not run out on Swansea when a better offer came in for him. keep your mouth shut mate you sound like an person
Totaly agree, he is such a hypocrit. lost all respect of the guy this summer. Arsenal has acted completley after the books, and he goes out in media talking down on us. Hating Liverpool more and more by the day.
I think he done the dirt on watford aswell, I don't think he's to well liked there
Liverpool paid Swansea what they wanted for Brendan. They also paid what they wanted for Joe Allen. Arsenal now have to pay Liverpool what they want for Suarez. Put up or shut up. You should be having ago at Wenger not Rodgers.
I know my point of view is slightly biased as a Liverpool fan, but I think he is doing pretty much what most managers would do. Insulting him because he won't sell Suarez because Arsenal are offering below his valuation doesn't change the fact that he is trying to the best for LFC.
Why should he be having a go at wenger? For playing 'games'?
Rodgers says we are lacking class, when he says Liverpool are as big as us and says suarez owes Liverpool after everything they've done.
Also had a go at us for going one pound over 40 million, if we think there's a clause, we aren't going to go 5million over it to keep Rodgers happy. Are we?!
He's burning bridges. And valuable ones at that. Needs to shut his trap and realise he's not as big in the footballing world as he thinks.
I was saying that people on this page were lacking respect for l'pool fans a couple of weeks back but everything I hear from Liverpool fans is bias bulls**t now.
Your not as big as you think, get out the past. Suarez is too good for you lot (just like Rvp was for us, relied on him too much).
08 Aug 2013 02:18:13
Thats absolute drivel, just because your willing to pay astronomical fees for incredibly average players doesn't mean we should have to pay well over the odds especially if there is a clause that let's the player leave for a certain amount. I think suarez is an exceptional talent but the £80 million odd estimation brendan put on his head is way up there with pigs can fly, unicorns are real and liverpool are serious top 4 contenders!
GTID
Jiminy, it wasnt about liverpool paying the right amount of money I am sure they payed what they had to and no more. it is about the lack of loyalty brendon has shown his previous clubs by leaving then=m as soon as a better offer has come in. suarez is doing exactly the same trying to better himself but he is being slated by JUDAS oh the irony of it all. its great and to add insult to swansea's injury he went and stole joe allen. imagine jiminy, rogers leaves for a better club and takes couthino with him as a liverpool supporter you would be gutted so think about swansea, fortunately they got a better manager as proved last year. ps I am not an arsenal supporter but you need to understand the big picture not just lfc
I haven't said anything about not being able to go where the bucks are. What I was saying Liverpool met Swansea's valuation. Arsenal haven't met John Henry's value. Tell me why Suarez hasn't put in a transfer request?The PFA are not giving Suarez backing over the so called contract clause. It doesn't say buyout, it says negotiate. If you want him put an offer that Liverpool will accept.
07 Aug 2013 21:16:11
Ok time is fast running out to replenish the 20 players let go, most were crap I know, but numbers are thin, senior players are crying out for new faces, and our leader is doing, well not much really, some trialist s here and there, no 1st team players, which is what is required, now I'm not saying nothing's happening, but we'll nothing's happening, I think we MUST bring in at least 5 players no messing around a statement of intent, BUT we know Wenger, he is a stubborn man, but gadizis must take control before it's to late, take over the contacts etc and move our club forward, have a read of le grove' s comments yesterday, he gives a clear insight into the situation. sorry for the rant. Am getting very concerned now
That's just the problem our manager is a control freak. He clearly in my opinion has no intention of spending big and is quite satisfied to carry on with the illusion of 4th spot being fantastic achievement and not spending money while he draws 147,000 a wk.
07 Aug 2013 20:52:33
Ed is there any chance you could tell me the amount of money we now have to spend from the sales of Gervinho etc.
Cheers
{Ed022's Note - We've not raised much if any money from player sales. A lot of the players were released. Gervinho hasn't been sold yet as a fee hasn't been agreed with Roma. Chamakh will probably go out on loan as Crystal Palace don't want to pay a fee. Bendtner is literally useless so don't pin your hopes on him bringing in some money. Therefore, we currently have upwards of £70m in the bank gaining interest by the day...}
What about manone?
Mannone went for about £2m
07 Aug 2013 20:40:43
The Suarez game might well be over as PFA have found in favour of Liverpool. Apparently the cause says 40 million to hear a bid, not to sell. We are cursed, surely?
Think our bid is 47mil utter madness.
07 Aug 2013 20:04:33
tootenham away league cup semi final replay 1987 was my favorite game I have ever attended.
never will forget the buzz of the shades trying to get us to leave the sewer that night.
whats every 1 else's favorite game they have attended.
Arsenal V Everton last game of the season and we had already won the league. The bit I remember most sitting there in the north bank was the reaction when Bould passed to Adams and he went on to score a fantastic goal. That had AW's stamp all over it. The reaction of the crowd was truly amazing.
Malaga are u Irish
07 Aug 2013 21:44:46
May 26th 1989 Michael Thomas taking what seemed like forever to clip the ball over Grobs for the 2nd goal.
I remember those seconds before he clipped it in thinking he was going to miss and anyone but him. But he did it.
For me our very own Aguerrrrroooo moment.
Ian Wright's volley over one. Then another. Then volleyed lob over that fat Welshman Neville Southall!
Well boi, limerick
V Leicester at highbury to claim title and become invincible! Goal down but did we panic. did we ****! Class, perfection and quality in every dept that side had. COYG foys
Has to be 2nd leg at home against Anderlecht in the Fairs Cup May 1970. First trophy I saw us win. You could cut the atmosphere with a knife. Eddie Kelly first half goal then 2 goals by Radford and Sammells in a matter of minutes in second half.
07 Aug 2013 19:54:54
my only worry with Suarez is that given he has a 6 match ban (is that 6 prem games?) and then he starts his 1st game for us in game 7.
we then have Man u, game 10 or 11 I think and he then takes a nibble out of Evra will he get an 18 game ban lol, could miss a lot of football.
Joking aside it does seem like this deal might happen despite reservations but like everyone says if he pops in 20-30 goals a season and we pick up couple trophies over I think 2 seasons we will keep him for then happy days.
Was wondering who everyone wants in as a CB?, personally I do like Williams, looks solid and an organiser
thanks {Ed027's Note - 5 prem games, one league cup for Arsenal. For Liverpool 4 prem games, 2 league cup for Liverpool
When it comes to CBs you want the guys who do the best job. Defenders don't always get the rep they deserve. But Williams is a damn good defender. And so is Bassong at Norwich. No joke! Queue all the posters on the site saying 'glad you don't manage Arsenal' etc but you can bore off, I know what I know and that is Bassong is the most underrated defender in the league.
07 Aug 2013 19:52:38
Hi Ed's. great work!
Do you reckon that Willian could be on his way to Arsenal. I know that we have got a lot of midfielders, but he could play instead of Ramsey, or Ramsey could drop deeper when Arteta goes past his best, giving space for Willian. I know that he wouldn't be available on the cheap, but with our supposed interest in Bernard and bidding around £20 million, surely we could get Willian for that amount, who I would prefer.
Thanks, and keep up the good work {Ed027's Note - i'd love that to happen, but it probably won't, I understand SPurs will be making a offer soon (Bale replacement, courtesy of Ed002)
07 Aug 2013 19:48:14
Really worried we aren't going to buy a CDM.
Wanyama, Capoue and Gustavo all available at reasonable prices. Not in for any of them. All ideal candidates. What's going on here Ed? We even interested in buying anyone in this position? Seems like we aren't. {Ed027's Note - we are looking at bigger fish
Capoue is off to Spurs, another one we miss out on
What bigger fish?
I would guess at bender.
Bender? Ed, who else could we be looking at? I can't see Khedira coming. I think Chelsea has way better shot at getting him. {Ed027's Note - time will tell
07 Aug 2013 19:44:42
After these many things like public interview against his own club, involvement of PFA to sort out - I am very sure that Suarez is not going to play for Liverpool again this season - no manager would like to have an unhappy player in his team in current situation.
Now it has to be seen that whether its Arsenal or Madrid or some other club comes up with and what amount Liverpool decides to consider. What do you think Ed?
According to TalkSport Arsenal is going to put next bid of 45M - not sure about the truth. {Ed027's Note - I don't listen to TalkShite
Agree Ed - TalkSports bluffs.
Would like to hear your opinion about Suarez's future. Do you think Liverpool can still have him playing for them after these things in last few days?
Hear hear turn that s**** off
07 Aug 2013 19:34:40
What's the score with Bernard eds any chance he may still come to arsenal {Ed027's Note - never knew anything about it
07 Aug 2013 19:17:21
"Reu1025: Embarrased o say this, but Real Madrid was my 2nd fav"
Well, the biggest step is admitting there is a problem. Now we can get you all the help you need :D
07 Aug 2013 18:01:33
Ed, can you make a poll for us:
Which club do Arsenal fans dislike the most?
Man United
Tottenham
Barcelona
Manchester city
Real Madrid
Chelsea
Liverpool {Ed027's Note - of course mate...Vote!
It is probably a given that's its the spuds, for most at least- it would be more interesting to see who is hated the most after the spuds.
That was a really good poll. It was a toughy!
Not because of Suarez but for some reason I could never stand Liverpool since I was 11 and I'm now 56! and I end up with a brother in law from Liverpool who is a complete nob head can you believe it?!
Sam, I've recently got annoyed talking to any Liverpool fan haha. Really starting to despise them.
(Unlucky about the brother in law!)
07 Aug 2013 18:50:46
The greatest footballer in the world has been left out of the Danish squad, hopefully this will be the kick up the arse that he needs and he might now choose one of the hundreds of clubs that are after him.
Who? {Ed022's Note - Nicklas "World's Greatest Footballer but no-one will buy me" Bendtner...}
I wish you could pin posts so they don't go away. This would be a good candidate!
07 Aug 2013 18:39:52
Toulouse president Olivier Sadran has claimed midfielder Etienne Capoue will join Tottenham. Posted on a web site another missed target?
Good replacement for Parker btw
Have you considered that we didn't want him? {Ed022's Note - Agreed. If we wanted him we'd have bid once Cardiff had an offer accepted...}
07 Aug 2013 17:47:52
there's this fear that real madrid will come and take suarez. but when I think about it, why haven't they done this already? don't say because they're busy with bale, that's rubbish. like somebody said here clubs don't do transfer's one at a time, they're multitasking. I think real will sign bale and walk away from suarez. that doesn't mean we'll sign suarez, though, but it makes our job easier.
i'm surprised there's nothing about alexis sanchez. he's a quality lad and available, i'd take him in a heartbeat. if we could pull sanchez and suarez off, the forward line would imo be strong enough to stand comparison with city, united and chelsea.
If we got those two it would be better than itu united and Chelsea {Ed022's Note - I feel it'll be one or the other. Sanchez is the full back for Suarez...}
07 Aug 2013 17:33:41
Anyone else seen this quote from Gustavo? "If Bayern allows it, we will talk with every major and serious club out there, including Wolfsburg, "
Would love him at the club and if these quotes are to be believed it looks possible!
I think he's been a model pro really. When rumours first came out he said he intended on going nowhere. Then he said he wants to stay and fight for his place. Now he is saying if his club will allow it, he will consider leaving. We all knew his time was up but the confeds proved his is a top player, and as I have said before, he and Oscar were just unbelievably good, and unbelievably tidy, throughout that tournament. I really hope we sign him.
Would be perfect.
Do any of the Eds have any news on what clubs are interested? {Ed022's Note - Wolfsburg are very interested in him but it all depends on price. They've been quoted £20m ish...}
07 Aug 2013 17:27:15
seen us linked with Benzema again I assume it's bs?
07 Aug 2013 16:57:50
Does anyone else think that we will once again sign no one of note and Wenger will say "we have Diaby coming back from injury"?
{Ed022's Note - I do still think we will sign someone, however, I am 100% sure that Wenger will say in one of his next few press conferences that "Diaby coming back is like a new signing and he has the qualities we have been looking for..."}
AW obviously has to much power and he is like an accountant watching over every £ that is spent which is why we don't get any of our targets. Until this situation is changed it will the same old story.
To be fair to wenger he must be almost as frustrated as us. Diaby clearly has quality just his legs seem to be made of glass
He is half-man, half daddylonglegs.
I'm a Liverpool supporter and have soft spot for arsenal think there a proper club. I think most pool supporters would rather sell saurez abroad. but if not possible think should take 45 to 50 million and get rid of. the shame he has brought on a great club like Liverpool with his carry on. a world class footballer but vile human being
07 Aug 2013 16:45:54
Just watch how arsenal fans wil start to use the same old lines about suarez like "misunderstood", "victimised", etc etc if you manage to get him.
i don't remember too many arsenal fans defending him when he was banned for 8 games for evra incident, I don't remember too many arsenal fans saying that biting someone is not really that bad, I don't remember to many arsenal fans who said anything other than suarez was pretty despicable person whose antics, cheating and nasty play made him one of the most loathed characters in the game, yet now people are falling over themselves to make excuses for him.
At L'pool all the brainwashing the blind loyalty call it what you want is fast wearing off.
{Ed022's Note - Don't get me wrong, what he did was wrong and he got punished. We're only worried about him performing on the pitch without any scandal. Wenger will keep him in check if he gets him...}
I believe that what he did at Liverpool is irrelevant to us. He knows not to make racist comments again and I highly doubt he will be biting anyone any time soon.
Arsene is probably one of the best man managers in the world of football and he will most likely keep him in check for his spell at the club.
Let's face it. You're a LFC fan and you are annoyed at the possibility of losing your best player to someone you see as a rival. I for one won't defend him if he does something stupid as I see no reasoning in showing blind loyalty to players if they mess up. They should learn from their mistakes and I believe Suarez has done exactly that.
Well mate it pleases me to pee in your pot because 1) I hate Evra with a passion and couldn't care less what Suarez said to him, Suarez got the punishment, I wasn't there, I don't know what was said and I don't judge things I don't know where I can avoid it. Having an opinion on that incident if you aren't Suarez or Evra is so pointless it's barely worth even responding.
2) I thought the bite, although totally absurd, was just ridiculous. I mean what moves a guy to bite like that? But seriously, a 10-match ban? Get back to me when Fellaini gets a 3-month ban for nutting Shawcross, or Barton gets a 6-month ban for being Barton. 10-match ban for a bite? That's more laughable than the incident.
Not all fans think in this -it's-black-or-it's-white way that you imply in your post, and I for one certainly don't. I don't care what Suarez received punishment for, I don't care what he costs and I don't care if he leaves in a year, if we sign him and he scores goals and stays out of trouble I will be happy.
The bloke needs help, not love. he'll get it at arsenal and become an even better player who isn't hated
07 Aug 2013 17:41:12
Your point of view is totally understandable and I'm sure most of us thought of him as a bell end, I never however couldn't see he was a quality footballer.
It's a gamble a lot are willing for the club to take including me, it may or he may turn around and bite us in the a55, I'm hoping not and he and a few quality others send us back in the right direction.
Get over him we know what he's like mate as long as he scores goals for us when he signs that's all that matters, like eds said we will keep him in check
Thought the biting was pretty funny to be honest, and as it was his word against Evras and they chose to accept Evras version, none of us know the truth. He's taken his punishment and apologised. No doubt he will do something stupid again eventually, but if he scores us 30 goals I will take the risk
Why don't you wait before coming on our site and trying to act like the big dog?
He's been in a load of trouble, wenger has managed troubled players before and will no doubt keep him in check.
I can sense that you are just angry that he's leaving and a big chance that he's coming to arsenal.
07 Aug 2013 16:24:20
Hi Edds,
Anything on Rooney? every now and then I see a snipit in the papers or on the net saying that Arsenal are still interested.
In my opinion I think he would be a great signing, I think we lost something when Bergkamp left that hasn't been replaced, he had an edge to him, a great fighting spirit and an excellent long pass to split defences and turn a defending corner into a winning goal!
Since those days, we've passed the ball to death, if we win possession from a corner, 20 passes later we're in the oppositions box along with 11 of their players.
I think Rooney could be our new Bergkamp, and turn us into a great counter attacking team.
The only thing I would say, is buy him now, before we buy Suarez, because we'd kick their arses with both of them!
Anyway I'm going mad checking this website every day and still nothing concrete !
Keep up the good work edds
ColbyGarry
{Ed022's Note - There is interest but Chelsea seem to be in pole position}
Rooney is not nearly as good as Bergkamp.
I wouldn't let Rooney clean Bergkamps boots
Totally different class
07 Aug 2013 15:52:51
Just daydreaming whilst on the toilet at work, does anyone support Arsenal because their Dad does, and his Dad does and so forth? Every Father on my Fathers side have supported Arsenal because their Dad does which goes back 5 generations!
{Ed022's Note - I support them because I was taken to my first live game as a kid (not by my dad) and fell in love with them...}
Taken aged 8 by my dad, following week taken to spuds, by. An unlocked uncle, was sick on the terrace, supported arsenal ever since, now 54, moral of the story spurs make you sick official.
No, my whole family are Spurs fans. I have no idea why I am an Arsenal fan, I just am. I guess you could say I was born a Gooner.
Yep, my old man first took me to Highbury in 1963 when I was a 5 year old. We used to get there at about half 12 and sit in the East Stand for 2 and a half hours eating snadwiches, crisps and reading the programme from cover to cover listening to the Met Police band as they played and marched on the pitch. Spectacularly unsuccessful period under Billy Wright and not a lot better for the rest of the decade until the Fairs Cup win - great atmosphere that night. Started going with my mates to the North Bank in the Double Season (70/71) and was outside Sh*te Hart Lane for the final game of the league season as we couldn't get in because the ground was full. This 13 year old had a few celebratory beers in a pub on the corner of what is now Bill Nicholson Way that I would never dream of entering now - the landlord didn't give a monkey's about underage drinking obviously. Happy Days :))
My old man is a red sea pedestrian but his identical twin brother is a Gooner.
I support AFC because of my granddad who I watched the 71 FA Cup with, Charlie George. enough said that was the start of the love affair
My old man has no interest in sport whatsoever, sadly. And my mum is a spud. But I only found that out about 3 years ago. I've supported arsenal since I was 7-8, because my best friend at my new school supported them and he showed me about 4 highlights and we scored 4 in each game and I was blown away! Been AFC ever since and my kids are going to be AFC I'll make sure of that! I met a guy recently who supports Liverpool, his son supports man U and his grandson supports chelsea. That's never going to happen in my family!
I just fell in love with the Gunners, and here I am today.
My girlfriend was a gooner and she popped off to watch the match with her dad, I was never in to Football but thought I would sit with a few tinnies and watch the match anyway at home so I could talk to her when she got back, Nice bloke that I am, anyway Anfield 89 Micky thomas, hooked need I say more, 2nd gen with my 5 year old now so call me plastic but went to both highbury and get to the emirates when I can, in my eyes it doesn't matter when or how its just that you are for whatever reason proper club proper fans proper football
Hay CECEUaW I might well have been sat next to you a few times I used to get there early pack a Percy Daltons or 2 & a good read of the programme during the 60's. Think I used to be 1 of the 1st in as I was [& still am a short a**e I wanted to get right up the front. Happy days.
Went to first gane 1969 with my Dad and my Grandad both Arsenal fans and that was that. My grandad always refered to the as the Arsenal never anything else.
My father was a gooner and we first watched the 87 littlewoods cup final win against Liverpool 2-1 champagne Charlie Nicholas scored both I think, sadly my father passed away in 2006, and in the fa cup 4 years ago, arsenal played plymouth argyle on jan 3rd.
Our team played the city I was born in on the anniversary of his death at the emirates that he never got the chance to go to because of illness.
My second son was born the following day and was 10 days over but had to be there and now both sons of mine are arsenal fans.
Once a gooner, always a gooner :)
Was forced to support them when I was a toddler. And I thank my dad for it every day.
Missing a heart in my chest, in its place is a cannon.
07 Aug 2013 15:28:20
Has anyone heard about the Anzhi firesale?
Their owner has put the entire first-team squad up for sale!
Willian, Eto'o anyone?
Perhaps Lacina Traore or even a return for diarra if they were remarkably cheap and if other targets fell through.
{Ed022's Note - The Anzhi owner has had enough of pumping in money and wants to shift the big earners. Only problem is Eto'o is on £13m a year or a mere £270,000 per week.}
07 Aug 2013 15:22:38
so who has suarez in their dream team
{Ed022's Note - Not me. He misses the first few games so that would be pointless. I will reveal I have three Arsenal players in my team if anyone would like to guess...? Answers on a post...card}
Ed, I'm going with the same 3 as me!
Koscielny, Giroud and Cazorla!
{Ed022's Note - No, Yes, Yes}
Koscielny, cazorla and wilshere? {Ed022's Note - No, Yes, No}
Ed. I reckon you have kos, arteta and cazorla.
{Ed022's Note - No, No, Yes}
Giroud, Cazorla and Oxlade-Chamberlain
{Ed022's Note - Yes, Yes, No...}
Walcott, Giroud, Cazorla
Giroud, Cazorla, Jenko
Giroud, Cazorla and Walcott?
This has completely distracted me from any window talk, and has become my main aim for the evening.
So I got Giroud and Cazorla right.
So the third I'm guessing is either Sagna or Walcott?!
D
Giroud, Cazorla and Merte.
Walcott Giroud cazorla
Giroud Podolski Cazorla? that's mine {Ed022's Note - Yes, No, Yes.}
Gibbs, Carzola, Giroud. Same as I have {Ed022's Note - Winner! Winner! Well done Baggins! You have, by process of elimination, determined my three Arsenal players. Your prize is to bask in the glory of being clever and having good taste too!}
I would still put walcott instead of Carzola, he will give you more points.
Edd whoever, why the censorship on my post, I said in Arsene we RUST not Trust, and with regards to your other point about working on other ptential signings.
Where are they then, if we have the money for these gifted players identified why haggle like back street Cairo traders?
It's pathetic!
{Ed022's Note - I didn't sensor your post. If you feel we rust under Arsene then that's your opinion...}
07 Aug 2013 14:54:57
Why is it that we only seem capable to work on one deal at a time, why are we not working on deals for the other needed positions - Wenger seems to do everything himself so its no wonder that things take so blooming long! and If this is the case then what are the other board members doing to earn their massive salaries??
In Arsene we trust!
{Ed022's Note - He isn't working on one deal at a time. He's working on several. As I stated we have a few players on trial, we are interested in Mattias Ginter, we have bid on Suarez twice and we have other players who we're interested in and negotiating with that aren't in the news so chill out...}
07 Aug 2013 14:10:01
Metal,
Just bringing previous post to the top.
With regard to when I said the 40m + £1 bid was insulting. If your selling a house for example and its listed as offers over £1m would it get sold for £1m and £1. You would probably laugh at the estate agent who informed you of the offer.
I think if we went in with 41m we wouldn't now be having comments what liverpool are making come out that we are playing games or lacking class.
{Ed022's Note - Think about it though, we've saved £999,999!}
There is no lack of respect at all. If a player has a release clause of £40m why would you offer £41m? It is a waste of £1m. The £1 on top of the £40m was simply to ensure we met the clause that Liverpool agreed to.
Brendan Rogers it the man who has shown no repect but slagging off our great club. Arsene has done nothing but act appropriately. He could have acted like Ancellotti or Mourinho and make blatent comments but he has not.
Rogers is simply upset that his best player wants to leave as he knows without him he will be very lucky to keep his job for the whole season. Liverpool are a ruined club who are stuck in the past, whether it is their past glory days or the Hillsborough disaster. They need to move forward and Rogers is not going to help them do that at all.
Yes but Paul this is not a property listing with a guide price, we're talking about a human being with a supposed clause in his contract that states the legally acceptable fee is 'over £40m' or even 'exactly £40m'. All the one pound does is negate the LFC defence that actually they can reject £40m because it had to be *more* than £40m. We've done that, if the clause exists. Wenger believes so and that's why he's letting it sit. It's a fixed price if all is to be believed and we've met it, nothing ridiculous or classless about it.
If this clause is not in the contract, then yes we can sit and mull over how daft the bid was, but even that would be unfair because the bid was made with the belief that the clause does exist. So the only time it would be ridiculous is if LFC said 'we value Suarez at £40m and won't consider anything less' and then we go and bid £40'000'001 - then I would agree. But they have said they value him at closer to £55m+ so there's a reason we've only bid £40m.
You really cannot compare a fixed price for a player given certain terms are met, and a guide price for a house. And I agree, I'd laugh a £1'000'001 offer for a guide-listed house valued at 'over £1m'.
Hey. We could have offered £40m+1p, he should count himself lucky. Least now he can buy some bon bons.
40m for Suarez + £1 for Downing {Ed022's Note - I'd want change from the £1 to be honest...}
Offers over in house prices do not stop offers below that value. Any thing is only worth what someone is willing to pay!
Haha nice1 NI gunner.
When the bid broke, I jokingly said I was shocked- by the £1 and not the 1p that is. Wenger paying 99p more than he has to?
That must be the escalation in "financial firepower" IG was talking about.
07 Aug 2013 19:00:06
good to have u back metal, ain't seen u in a while
@ni gunner laugh out loud! could have gone for 40mill + a stick of chewing gum
Should have made it 40 mill and Bendtners pants
07 Aug 2013 14:08:32
Eds, with the recent new of anzhi essentially putting their squad up for sale do you think arsenal would be interested in any of the players? Could get a class. Player like willian on the (relative) cheap
{Ed022's Note - According to another Ed the owner is not keen to pump money into the club as he has done in recent seasons. Willian would still cost around £20m. Spurs have apparently been sniffing around this week...}
07 Aug 2013 14:02:58
A lot of fans are worried that, if we do sign Suarez he'd just leave after 2-3 seasons.
I, on the other hand am not one bit bothered.
He'd provide that 'Robinho effect' when Man City paid £32m. The footballing world stood up and took notice. Every top player said to themselves "Wow, they mean business!" The signing of Suarez would do the very same thing for us. Those "top, top quality" players would see living breathing proof that we are ready to join the big boys.
Don't get me wrong, we need more than just Suarez if we are ready to challenge but he could be the catalyst to the rest of our summer dealings. Perhaps we are targeting players that just don't believe we are serious yet (Rooney). I just think that, even if we signed Suarez and ONLY Suarez (wouldn't be happy), his inclusion would certainly guarantee 4th, get us further in the UCL, put rubbish like Blackburn to the sword in the FA Cup etc.
Colchester and Falkirk.
Diverse I know
If we get him for 2-3 seasons and he leaves for £25-30 mil then that isn't terrible business.
07 Aug 2013 17:51:01
Crystal Palace since I grew up in that area of South London.
And since am an Argentina fan my true love is Boca Juniors.
Boca vs Arsenal if my favourite player Riqulme is playing then it's got to be Boca controversial by ha.
That's the one exeception.
My thoughts exactly Sloth. What if he wins us a league, FA cup and a Carling cup in those 2 years? Would be good business there. RVP was with us for 8 seasons I believe and he won us shiite!
07 Aug 2013 14:00:30
Does anyone have a second team or two? I know we're Arsenal fans, but do you have any soft spots for other clubs.
It may seem weird as an Arsenal fan, but my two other favourite teams are London clubs.
Charlton
Crystal Palace
Any answers would be great. Arsenal are by far my favourite team in the world and nothing will ever change that, but still.
{Ed022's Note - My second team would have to be the mighty Queen of the South (Scottish 1st Division) as my granddad was an avid supporter...}
Southampton and sheffield united {Ed022's Note - For an Aussie thats quite random choices. They're not exactly close either...}
My second club would be Brentford FC
Colchester as my home team and Swansea and Dortmund
Mine are also Palace and Charlton.
I'm a south Londoner, also I absolutely detest millwall, more so than spurs.
07 Aug 2013 14:40:19
Southampton, watched my first games there.
Im from stevenage so support them locally, but apart from Arsenal my other team that I say I enjoy are ROMA.
theyve played some classy football in their time!
Ted, I have several actually. Charlton because I was trained by one of their defenders years and years ago and then we went to watch Charlton dismantle Ipswich 4-0 and that was the first live game I'd ever been to.
Shrewsbury town, because I live nearby, so always keep tabs on them. Same with Wrexham to some extent. Arsenal Shrewsbury was surreal. One of my mates used to play with Joe Hart and an ex-Shrewsbury lad plays for my village too. My bro's best mate's dad (steady on, sauce territory!) owns/sponsors a box and the Pro Vision CCTV stand (he owns ProVision). Also some of you may have seen my post where I said my best mate scouts for Everton - he's always attending sports functions in Shrewsbury and was at an awards do in May and met Joe Hart again, amongst others. So I seem to know people well-connected to the club and couldn't get away from it if I wanted to really!
Other than that, Hamburg and Dortmund as I grew up there.
I hate Man U more than Spurs, and any clubs I see as scummy, be it due to their kit (wtf) or their players. A perfect blend of an example would be Stoke.
Notts County
Sorry to say it, but it has to be Millwall as I was born in Bermondsey and the New Den is sited where my house at the time was. Why Arsenal as my first team? I always had a soft spot for Bobby Gould after Arsenal got beat by Swindon in the league cup final and because they were the first team I went to see in the flesh so to speak, well and Leicester who they played that day in 1971. Strange though, that I had a picture of Leeds on my wall too??
Estepona gooner
Watford is my 2nd team
Arsenal, Dortmund and Swansea. , for the way they play their game.
I have a team I support in almost every league but the ones that I really like are: Atletico Madrid, Porto, Lyon and BVB.
I've been supporting Swansea for 5-6 years now and am really happy for them.
And lastly Southampton, my father is a fan for his entire life.
All these clubs are the ones I like, but there is only one club that I LOVE and that's Arsenal.
AFC as my first team ofc, my brother and our neighbours were big supporters plus Liam Brady was my idol growing up.
My second team is Dagenham & Redbridge as its my hometown and I used to go more or less every game during the mid 80s.
Embarrased o say this, but Real Madrid was my 2nd fav (diff league, no threat to us) but after their antics on the Higuain deal, they are hovering awfully close to Men united (pun intended) and Barcelona on my hate list
Watford my uncle used ti take me to watch them when I stayed with them, first pitch invasion too when they went up from the old 3rd to 2nd division
Luton Town, original home town club.
(5 years back in the prem haha)
07 Aug 2013 13:56:44
It was widely reported that Gervinho was on his way to Roma on Sunday for a medical and Wenger confirmed he was on a "good way" there. its Wednesday. how long will it take to go through? is there any way we can help!
Aside from all the non activity. I am for one pleased that we are shifting dead weight from the pay roll!
{Ed022's Note - Is there any way we can help? Aside from impersonating Gervinho and taking his medical for him, no. The hold up is the fee. The fee hasn't been agreed between Arsenal and Roma, however they gave him permission to go have the medical and they are currently negotiating...}
Could the negotiation over the fee have somethin to do with a switch deal where we could get one of their players? Preferably Lamela or maybe Pjanic?
{Ed022's Note - No I don't think so. The Gervinho deal is a separate deal. Lamela and Pjanic aren't targets at the moment...}
07 Aug 2013 13:49:43
Good old Arsene, he's still got it - 27 year old French div2 rocking horse on trial!
I despair.
Why is he even being considered?! Is he better than coquelin? Well I've never heard of him let alone see him but I'm quite certain he's not, so why are we even bothering?
Agree. If you are 27 and still taking trials, probably you are not good enough
07 Aug 2013 13:46:38
Wonder what will happen with Luis Suarez, if Arsenal fail to qualify for the CL, and no other club come in with an offer for him?!
He'll stay at Liverpool. Seems simple enough.
Is his position tenable? He has come out and called the club liars who fail to keep promises.
If you think about it, if no-one comes in for him then he has nowhere else to go. He is still under contract at Liverpool and therefore remain there until they are able to get rid or his contract runs down.
I do not think he will stay. I do not think would want an unhappy Suarez at their club for a whole season
You think we are not going to qualify tsk shame on you we are AFC!
07 Aug 2013 13:43:13
Lads, I really don't want Suarez at our club. While I admit he is a superb player he reminds me a lot of Adebayor in his attitude. He is at a big club who are in the process of rebuilding, he is no doubt on a good wage, but instead of being happy he decides he wants to move. Won't honour his contract and will go to court to get it annulled ( and this has happened with him before I believe. ) sorry luis, don't need anymore mercenaries, if you want to come to Arsenal you must be loyal to our club. We have had enough of mercenaries.
I'm going to defend Saurez on this point (and the same applies to RVP when he was here). He's at a club that can't fulfill his ambitions and he's in his prime. If he was promised he could leave if they didn't make CL then they should honour that. I think Wenger promised RVP that we would invest and challenge but it never happened so I can't blame him either (although I hate him with a passion).
Suarez always seems to give 100% so very different from Adebayor.
Once again, agree with the sloth. Honouring contracts should also be from the club point of view, not only the player. If the club failed to get UCL as promised, then they haven't fulfilled their end of the bargain and should allow him to leave
07 Aug 2013 13:01:02
Hy edwards, I wish to summon ed001
ed001, why do you think we would struggle with Suarez leading our attack?I'm really curious, not trying to agitate you
{Ed022's Note - Im sorry Ed001 isn't here right now. He's currently undertaking some important work in the world of sport. Please leave your message after the beep...}
Is he finalising the deal for suarez to arsenal?
{Ed022's Note - I cannot divulge the nature of his business as I have signed a confidentiality agreement as part of my job here as several of us have very strong links within the sporting, especially football community that can't be revealed...}
I agree with Ed001 actually,
Suarez isn't an out and out striker, he's a second striker, playing off the forward, that's when he's best.
Suarez won't win headers or hold up the ball.
If we sign him, I see 2 scenarios.
He'll play centrally behind Giroud with Santi moved out left, or he'll play out left himself.
Neither of those am I keen for.
{Ed022's Note - He is not an out and out striker but a drifter. I would like to see him play alongside Giroud personally as I think Giroud would work well with him...}ts
Yeah, I agree Ed, going to a little and large of the old days!
But I reckon if he plays behind, in the "hole" he can link up with Jack and Mikel in midfield, and run at opposition from deep.
That said, maybe moving to a two up top would be a good idea!
{Ed022's Note - Sometimes, positions and formations can be a bit too rigid and if you think about it Walcott drifts inside centrally all the time but plays on the wide right as a "winger/attacker". Suarez and Giroud could play together and let's go crazy here, alongside Walcott in a top three if Wenger wanted. Imagine the goal threat? For this to work, you'd need your full backs to be excellent and a midfield enforcer...}
Hmmm, good point.
I reckon Monreal is solid defensively, but as for RB, Sagna and Jenko are much too attacking.
And we definitely don't have an anchor man!
Thing is though, Giroud, Walcott, Poldi and Santi all scored over 10 goals for us, 3 on their debut season!
Surely we can expect them to do better this year now they've settled, and maybe relax the need for a striker,
I know a lot of people are set on Suarez, but something in me just says allow Poldi and Giroud to rotate/sub/play as strikers, and buy a good winger!
Walcott cuts in a lot as you say, and he does it to a good effect, someone similar out left who can also cross could make a big difference!
What's the release clause in your contract ed001?i'll give you one pound more if you reveal the info
{Ed022's Note - Ed001 is unfortunately on the Messi scale of release clauses...}
07 Aug 2013 13:00:43
Wenger has said that the suarez saga is on stall as suarez has decided to take legal action against Liverpool by going to the premier league and pfa and suarez had said that he has their backing and the move will be pushed through
07 Aug 2013 12:52:39
Ok lads what are your relegation picks for next season?
Mine would be :
18. Newcastle
19. Stoke
20. Crystal Palace
Newcastle - Simply because they look like a real mess right now. Kinnear, Pardew, Ashley and all sorts of clowns.
Stoke - Mark Hughes worst manager in the history of football I have ever seen.
Crystal Palace - I don't know just a hunch feeling.
{Ed022's Note - Cardiff, Hull and Palace. Haven't seen enough quality bought from any of these clubs and yes I do see all three promoted clubs going straight back down. In that order...}
18. Stoke
19. Palace
20. Hull
This is a real tough one! Because I don't necessarily think the teams who came up will go straight back down, but then when I look at the teams they're joining I just can't see them finishing higher than any of them!
Newcastle going down is a false dawn I think, they have the players and the manager to survive, they just need some positivity.
I can't see the three newcomers staying up unless something goes MASSIVELY wrong at Norwich/Stoke/Villa/S'land.
Spurs
Chelsea
Stoke.
Stoke, Sunderland aaaaaaand. Hull
AG
Rooting for palace as they're sort of my second team
I think and will gladly see stoke hull and palace go down
With watford Bolton and QPR going up
Stoke, Stoke and Stoke. Should be relegated all the way to the Blue Square Premier for crimes against football.
Dw17. Could I also add Stoke to that list. It was actually voted the worst place in the country by.
The UK government! Ouch.
In my dreams, Man Utd, Chelsea and obviously Spurs go down.
but I guess realistically its:
Hull
Stoke
SPURS
with Qpr, Leicester and Wigan up
07 Aug 2013 12:37:36
Ed is Fred likely to move this Summer? Would be a good buy for us!
{Ed022's Note - Frederico Chaves Guedes or FRED to his mates is currently playing in Brazil for Fluminense. He is currently in the Brazil squad (as he was in the Confederations Cup). Therefore, I feel it is unlikely he will move because he is happy and settled leading up to the World Cup in Brazil...}
07 Aug 2013 12:27:37
Looking at our team over the last few seasons, we are badly in need of a player who can make a goal out of nothing. our team retains lots of possession in the last third, but its very rare that we benefit from that possession.
The last player we had that could do that was Henry.
I think we need to break the bank with getting a player that is capable of doing that. If it is Suarez so be it 50mil is not a bad sum to lay out on 1 player that could take us to the next level.
Currently there are 3 guarenteed teams to finish in the top 4. Chelsea, Man U and City. we are in the battle for 4th with The Spuds, Liverpool and possibly Everton. How much will it cost us financally if we do not qualify for next years champs league, 20, 30 maybe even 40 mil. and then its harder to attract the top players.
Therefore I think we should pay the 50mil price if that what it takes to get Suarez.
07 Aug 2013 12:26:05
If Suarez takes legal action against Liverpool, would he most likely win? And if it was written in the contract then would that change anything? Ed, could you shed some light?
{Ed022's Note - Previous history says the player will win. Suarez "forced" a move to Groningen to be closer to his then gf and now wife who lived in Barcelona. He then took Groningen to the Arbitration for Sport in order to force through a move to Ajax a few years later. Even if Liverpool "win a court battle" that is not going to change the mind of a player and he will still want to leave. Liverpool will just save face a bit and claim the moral victory. I fully expect Suarez to be sold by September 2nd 2013...}
Hold on so he has taken every club he has been to too court! Or taken legal action. Blimey he is a.
{Ed022's Note - Yep. He was then transferred from Ajax to Liverpool in the midst of the biting scandal (the first one) with Otman Bakkal. Ajax were just happy to get rid of him. So yeah he has history...}
07 Aug 2013 12:22:55
edo22 are you the same ed that was on here a couple of years ago.
{Ed022's Note - Yes. I took a short break on business but yes, I am now back...}
Nice 1
let the fun begin.
{Ed022's Note - Should I be nervous??}
Its good to have an old ed back that I can cry with when the window is closed.
{Ed022's Note - Crying tears of joy when Wenger signs the players we're crying out? Glad to be back mate, thanks...}
Lol. let the pessimism roll over you
Why would u cry Malaga unless its with joy, after all as u have said, higuin will 100% sign as will jovetic, bender, Fabregas, Caesar etc. According to u and ure contacts (those voices in ure head) time to fess up maybe malaga/charlie?
Xxx
Leave Malaga alone he contributes which is more than can be said of senderos, both funny but senderos not more so. point made ;0)
07 Aug 2013 12:25:01
paul-rochester,
how do I enter your dream team, what website do I go on to.
cheers
424809-131299
Fantasy. premierleague. com
In this you really can sign hazard ;)
07 Aug 2013 12:01:18
Does anyone know anything about this El Jadeyaoui that we have taken on trial? 26 year old Moroccan midfielder. {Ed022's Note - Arsenal have taken El Jadeyaoui on a two day trial starting today. Sebestian Perez is also on trial at the same time...}
I really don't get this trial for a 26 year old footballer. What he suddenly learnt to play football, did he turned into Overmars overnight. Don't get it.
{Ed022's Note - Honestly, I completely agree with you. I don't know what we're doing giving him a trial. He turns 27 tomorrow which is even worse! His agent is the same as Chamakh so maybe that's how he got his chance? You have to say its a no pressure chance to look at another player who would be available for under 200k. Not really the "top, top player" promised by Wenger and Gazidis in May though...}
As you know, price doesn't reflect ability when you have the scouting powers of Arsene wenger. {Ed022's Note - But him still being in the French second division at 27 should... Shouldn't it?}
I agree but sometimes there is an edge to a player something that can be cultivated perhaps Monsieur W has a different outlook, a team or player is not made by individual brilliance although that helps its the cogs in the wheel that allows the wheel to turn, sometimes he gets it right sometimes he gets it wrong but I have the utmost faith in him despite the haters we do compete and would have done last year if it weren't for our dismal start champions league how many years new stadium ( I might even get a statue made of myself and plant it at the emirates in the dead of night. kudos high five woo hoo) yeah I like that thought a true supporter holding aloft the scarf inbetween the greats, we are about to explode and rain fire down on the PL we are legion we are AFC
07 Aug 2013 11:58:21
GOD
You're missing one key difference between the Suarez saga and the RVP saga - Suarez joined a non-CL team for some reason and ensured he got what he feels is an agreement in his contract where he can leave if Liverpool don't get CL.
RVP was already at a CL club, and was offered £185kpw to stay. We were not in a position where he felt we weren't sticking to a contractual agreement - he literally just wanted to leave to go and win trophies elsewhere. Then the club went one step further and decided £24m from Man U compared with £8m from Juve was too much to ignore. That was a money decision, not a footballing one. We had a choice though.
Suarez may just want to leave Liverpool, but you can't deny that the two sagas cannot be compared because of the difference in the two clubs' circumstances. It's clear that if it's in Suarez's contract that he can leave if CL is not achieved, then you guys just have to accept that that is a symptom of not having CL and you'll have to swallow that until you are back in the CL - we didn't have to, but we did anyway with RVP.
Forget all the racism stuff etc etc, but purely in footballing terms Suarez has a point. RVP didn't have the same point at all.
RVP left to win trophies? Nothing about the Champions League?
To R91: Playing in the champions league brings a certain prestige. He isn't coming to Arsenal expecting to win the champions league (Should he come) Obviously that is what he hopes, but at the end of the day, 32 teams make the group stages, only one can win.
RVP much bettered his chances at winning trophies, while Suarez is bettering his opportunities as well, I still mainly see this as a stepping stone to La Liga.
No because we were in the Champions League.
R91 RVP left to win trophies at another CL team because the club's level of ambition did not meet what he thought was the level required to win trophies, and I agree with him. It wasn't and judging by our inactivity this summer, still isn't. RVP had a point as much as it pains me to say it.
Suarez has a point too. He doesn't question the LFC ambition does he? No. But you aren't a CL team and he wants CL football. You can't hate any player for that.
And the worrying point is will any stick around with us if WE fail to qualify for the champions league this season or next?
RVP wanted to step up as he didn't see the ambition showed by Arsenal to get back to being as good as the top 2/3 clubs in the league.
Suarez wants out of Liverpool as he wants to play in the champions league and wants to step up to a team of that caliber.
I'm not a Liverpool fan, but the only difference I see between the 2 situations is the contract length. Both players just want a step up in there career.
R91 that's true, but one was a massively debatable step 'up' - RVP to Man U, just another CL team, if he'd stayed at Arsenal we'd have been much much closer to the league leaders, maybe even challenged. So it wasn't necessarily a step up, it was a step sideways that paid off. If Man U had finished second in the league, which given their squad they probably should have done, then people would be pissing themselves at RVP.
Whereas Suarez literally can step up to a CL team if he comes to us, and if we don't win the title he is still in a CL team and Liverpool still probably won't be. So that is a genuine step up.
I do understand where you're coming from Suarez is an obvious step up to a CL team. (even though I can see there being a swerve ball, and going to somewhere like Monaco, showing that he is all about the money really)
But there is no doubting that Man U was a step up, they would have been a force with or without RVP last season, and maybe it was RVP that won them the title, but I feel with or without RVP, Man U would have been up there, and you wouldn't have been. Just my opinion.
RVP didn't go about it in the right way, but with 1 year on the contract there was only limited you could do as stated.
All I'm saying is there are slight differences, but in reality, both want to be in a more competitive position
{Ed022's Note - Totally disagree with the thought that without RVP Man Utd would still have been up there. Rooney wasn't firing and RVP won them games and points on his own. If we'd have kept him against his will then he wouldn't have been half as good with us though to be fair...}
I think they would have still been there or there abouts, because they always are.
I feel that without RVP they would have invested in someone different, and there would have been a similar outcome. Although it's all ifs and buts, Rooney would have been playing upfront, it does change everything
This season however, it is new territory with Moyes at the helm as they don't have that Fergie factor
This post should be called 'class' who has class ade rvp cole pfsst makes me mad typing we probably could have done more but please these people need to respect, they don't true greats like Henry fabregas don't go down that route they appreciate and show love for the cannon hence why people will read about winners of the PL in a dusty almagnac 70 years on thousands upon thousands of supporters will pass their statues every other weekend, if u ask me what would I prefer millions when I already have millions or lifelong upon lifelong hero status no question, they are in the game to be legends paid enough not to worry I ask the question to my fellow gooners what would you rather be?
07 Aug 2013 11:55:49
In all honesty I don't hold out much hope of getting Suarez. Firstly I don't think Rogers would let him go to another premier league team and secondly I think other foreign clubs are just waiting until it becomes clear that he will be allowed to go. Would prefer Rooney anyway but we will no doubt let him sign for Chelsea without a fight!
{Ed022's Note - Stranger things have happened in the world of football. We signed Sol Campbell for example. RVP signed for Man Utd. Things happen so we'l have to see how things progress or regress over the next week or so...}
07 Aug 2013 11:34:06
I'd love Suarez to join. He's world class. However, if it blows our entire budget i'd rather not. We need a keeper, as ours is truly awful. Then at least one defender and a midfielder who genuinely protects the back 4, and is intimidating to play against. Suarez is immense but we have decent forwards. We are more desperate in these areas. For what it's worth, and I said it on here last month, I doubt we'll get him anyway. He wants madrid.
{Ed022's Note - Blow our budget? We have £70-£100m in reserves for transfers alone. £40m plus a £1 wont blow our budget by any stretch. We also could have £10m or so from Gervinho, Chamakh (if he goes permanently) and if the Worlds greatest striker Bendtner is eventually sold...}
I'm pretty sure we could pick up good GK, defender and CDM for £20-40mil total. Well within budget.
07 Aug 2013 11:32:05
away from the transfer window.
who does every 1 think will be a dark horse this season.
i am not talking about champions, more a team who will cause a lot of problems for the big teams.
for me sunderland are going to give a lot teams problems.
{Ed022's Note -
Swansea and Southampton for me
{Ed022's Note - Top tip for the fantasy dream teams out there. Wilfried Bony for Swansea... I think he could another Michu effect this season and I reckon he'l score against Man Utd on the first game of the season...}
I take it you disagree ed,
{Ed022's Note - I am very sarcastic on occasions Malaga and brutally honest on others. If IMO I disagreed with you I would tell you. However, I think Swansea will do ok, they won't pull up trees this season because they will have Europe to contend with. See Newcastles fall down the table with the Thursday night football. My point about Bony was not sarcastic at all. I think he's gonna be a good player for them and I do honestly think he will score against United...}
I think Swansea will have another good season and Southampton would be my dark horse.
Sunderland, could go either way imo. Well or poorly.
{Ed022's Note - I agree LG1, Sunderland are very Jekyll and Hyde...}
Mate I have no problem with you being sarcastic, let's keep the site on a fun basis, then when the window goes pair shaped we can all laugh.
07 Aug 2013 12:26:26
Southampton for me, they have made some quality signings and are quite likely to add a couple more.
Swansea will cause problems, really like the way they play and Laudraup
Norwich have signed a few decent players. Fulham might also trouble a few teams.
It has to be Southampton for me. They actually have a frightening midfield with players like Schneiderlin, Lallana, Puncheon, G. Ramírez and the new boy Wanyama.
Norwich and Southampton for me look to have made some good shrewwwd signings, unlike some clubs.
07 Aug 2013 11:29:40
Hey ed, just out of curiosity
What's up with all this register stuff? If I were to keep posting as Nick. but without signing up, would my posts not be posted? Or is it just posts with no sign off?
Not that I have a problem with it, I was just wondering.
{Ed022's Note - With everyone registering a name it will stop some posters from abusing other posters. Also it gives credibility to posts as people have to put their names to "Messi having a medical at Arsenal...}
07 Aug 2013 11:26:12
eds you think suarez will put a transfer requiest in this week this whole thing getting messy now
{Ed022's Note - I think it already IS very messy and Liverpool are desperate not to sell to US. Just like we hated selling RVP to Man Utd. However, I don't know whether Suarez handing in an official transfer request would help. Liverpool aren't stupid. They know he wants to leave. A piece of paper won't change that. Suarez has publicly said he wants to leave. An official transfer request may twist Liverpools arm into selling, however they could just reject it and continue playing hardball. The difference with RVP and Suarez is that LS still has 2-3 years on his contract and RVP was running down to a year I believe so Arsenal had to sell...}
07 Aug 2013 11:19:27
Saw on another page that ed001 said we could have an interest in khderia as he has been recommended to wenger by podolski.
Defiantly a player how can do a job for us on the defensive side of things and isn't that bad at getting forward if needed.
Be a good signing- hope that's true.
{Ed022's Note - Khedira would be a very good signing although he was a Mourinho favourite during his time at Madrid so don't rule out Chelsea. Especially as Mikel doesn't really do the business (IMO) in the middle of the park... Poldi also recommended Lewandowski to Wenger but he will go to Bayern Munich. You can't say Podolski isn't trying!}
I'd love him too but apparently chelsea and mourinho are also interested. {Ed029's Note - There is a further discussion due between Real Madrid and Chelsea about him today.}
Khedira is a great player, exactly what we need for sure. Again, he isn't a classic DM, but does the business in a less structured role on the pitch. From early form this year perhaps - i'm just saying perhaps - Ramsey's engine and latent talent will kick into gear to give a similar player.
I couldn't understand the point of Mikel for the past few years. Especially as they went to court over how they signed him. But his last half of last season showcased his value.
I'd still like Lieva, but I don't think Liverpool are in a giving mood right now.
07 Aug 2013 10:52:05
According to betting offices
Suarez to join
Bet 365. Ladbrokes
Arsenal. 8/11 1/2 8/13
Real. 6 9/2 7/2
Arsenal clear favourites
{Ed022's Note - Just like we were clear favourites for Higuain? Fellaini? Oh right, then it must be happening...}
07 Aug 2013 11:23:31
Well bet offices mostly get it right
Anyway i'm not saying it will happen but just thought I post it
Rumours are rumours this on the other hand is not a rumour
Its just info on what the bet offices think
{Ed022's Note - I jest AkyK but betting odds go up and down like yoyos and I wouldn't put much hope/emphasis on it...}
Agree with ed. we've been favs for other players before and never signed them.
we're clear favourites because no one else in for suarez.
if that doesn't change, i would say we have a good chance.
on the other hand, if rm or chelsea, etc come on scene, our chances go way down.
bookies odds don't mean much and can change at the drop of a hat.
{Ed022's Note - Bookies are there to make money end of. If the odds look good then people will bet. Odds go up and down and I could literally rattle off a dream team of players we have been favourite for but never actually signed. Hazard, Mata, Higuain are to name a few recently...}
If those quoted odds pairings are contemparaneous then Real have hardened a lot more than we have in the same period. The fact that we are shorter odds will just be a reflection of the money going on Arsenal, probably driven by hope and parochial sentiment. The trend shows that the bookies think Real is the more likely destination unfotunately
{Ed022's Note - CECEGUaW You have earnt 10 points to Gryffindor for the correct use of contemparaneous in a post. Well done!}
Suarez has yet to put in a transfer request, Liverpool have not done anything wrong, The clause is ambiguous.
If the Arsenal want him they will have to up there offer. Do you really believe that if Liverpool accepted that Arsenal offer, other clubs wouldn't come in and take him at that price.
I have always had a lot of respect for your club, but the 2 bids you have made, have lacked class.
IMO that extra £1 spoilt any amicable way of pushing a deal through. The club will now be determined to make you pay more.
Liverpool will sell the player, and if Arsenal don't up there offer they will not get him in this window. I still think he will go abroad. Good luck for the coming season, anyway.
07 Aug 2013 10:54:39
Have been thinking a lot about Arsenal as always and in particular the mention of names such as Henry, Viera, Petit, Overmars, Bergkamp and the others. More recently Cesc, Nasri, RVP.
We played some fantastic football with those guys, won trophies with some, not with others.
All have in common Arsene Wenger. He got them to play great football and to win things and its probably only Cesc who has since played that same quality football.
The Henry's and Bergkamp era are a massive act to follow but and a fairly big but, if Arsene buys well now he without question has the ability to do that again, great football and trophies.
Had he had the money Utd wouldn't be sitting their with 20 EPL trophies.
I've really got a feeling he is going to do good things and sorry 1404 I would have Saurez, ed I think you talked of the Cantona effect, it's a big possibility and surely if we get him, personality aside, it's a world class player. Once we had them in abundance, now we don't, that's where we need to start heading.
I for one really do want Arsene to do it again. The guy has done wonders. I know not everyone agrees but just my opinion.
{Ed022's Note - I have always said I would welcome Suarez as I feel he could be the catalyst for not just more signings of similar ability (World class) but for Arsenal to finally win trophies...}
Agree with you guys. We just need a breakthrough with a top signing to signal we're serious and ambitious (again!) and surely others would follow.
That's why I want us to sign suraez, besides the fact he is a quality player and despite the potential baggage, there is also a bigger much imo.
LG
Very true. you cannot say you are not a fan of Suarez. some of the things he does (the good things) are truly amazing. how many eyebrows would be raised at us signing him. the only transfer that would have as high profile this season would be the impending bale transfer. its really one that will make people sit up and take notice. its a risk we just need to take as we are becoming stagnant.
{Ed022's Note - Exactly what I said. He could be the catalyst to bigger and better things!}
07 Aug 2013 10:49:55
i think every 1 needs to step back and look at the luis suarez bid.
i will put my house on it that he will do the same thing to us as he is doing to liverpool 1-2 years down the line.
for me rooney would be a better option, he will only want to play in england and I think we will get better loyalty out of him.
{Ed022's Note - Malaga, there is very little loyalty left in football unfortunately. But, if Suarez helps us to win a trophy and get that monkey off our back then I would send him off to Real Madrid and buy another world class player and move on. Use him just as much as he may use us. Simples!}
I'm with Ed on this one, who cares if he's only here for one season? We'll sell him for what we paid, easily, maybe more. And there will be players we can sign after.
{Ed022's Note - Thanks Metal. The club always moves on. We moved on after Wright, Bergkamp, Henry etc... The club is bigger than any one player...}
I agree with you. The upside is that he's resale value is quite huge in two years so we can get a lot of money back. (I don't have enough faith in the negotiation team to think the can actually earn a profit on him).
I don't want him because he's a cheating bitey racist, and our club is better than that.
{Ed022's Note - In two years Suarez will still only be 28, still around peak age. Depending on how successful he has been and the market transfer value, he should still have at least 75% resale value so I think its a no brainer personally...}
Any chance of Wenger pulling off both Rooney and Suarez? And having a front 3 of Suarez Rooney Walcott/Podolski/Giroud?
{Ed022's Note - I am afraid you are living in a dream world my friend. Suarez is first choice out of him and Rooney. Chelsea are all over Rooney like a cheap suit. However, it would be quite the line up and significantly weakening two clubs in and around us...Would make a pleasant change from us strengthening them...}
Worth a try;) Are there any other strikers out there Ed that Wenger is interested in? Yilmaz, Martinez, Fred?
{Ed022's Note - Yilmaz was linked to us, especially after scoring 4-5 goals in the Champions League group stages for Fenerbache. Martinez is not a target currently and Fred, well I have explained that on other post...}
07 Aug 2013 10:40:17
Does anyone else think arsenal are focusing too much on bringing Saurez and not looking for potential signing in over areas that need more depth. With on a few weeks left of the window being open, I hate to say, but can see arsenal left with a deadline day rush to bring in random players like a few seasons ago?
Ed, is there any player with real interest and likely of a move at this point or should we begin to worry? Thanks
{Ed022's Note - Bruce, transfers are never one transfer at a time. Wenger has his fingers in several transfer pies if you will. For example, there is interest in Mattias Ginter, we have Sebestian Perez on trial and we are interested in Suarez to name but a few. There's interest in other players too...}
07 Aug 2013 10:35:58
Who do reckon is the hardest manager in the league? Il go with Lambert, he just reminds me of a psychopath.
{Ed022's Note - What about Martin Jol? (Although he looks like Jabba the hut) looks like he could be a big horrible bar steward...}
I heard Martinez trained as a ninja for many years before he started football.
{Ed022's Note - I think we're missing one nut job from the list. The enigma that is... Paulo Di Canio!}
Mark Hughes? When he played he was a boss, or David Moyes, he has the eyes.
Tony pulis. didn't he pin james beattie up next to a door in the changing room while he was naked and headbutt him?
07 Aug 2013 10:11:24
Just playing devil's advocate. Wenger is the manager of our team, so if we to get the most out of it shouldn't we play to his strengths.
I'm going to add a few caveats here, and that is yes I'm admitting he has made a few shockers in terms of transfers over the past few seasons. And his wage policy is laughable. Even though I think this is being addressed now.
But if you look at the shockers he made in the transfer market, they have been generally for older players I. e Santos, Park, Squillachi, Chamackh etc.
Looking at his transfers over 17 years your obviously going to make mistakes, but in general when he goes for the younger players they come up trumps. This is the strength I'm talking about.
I know there is a massive clammer to spend big this summer, the quick fix,
But this isn't Wengers strength and this is where I know a lot of you will probably disagree.
But surly if he's our manager we should play to his strengths. We can look at Klopp and Dortmund as the most similar to model to our own. The difference is that his scouting and model has been more successful recently. But It shows it can be successful.
Wenger has many faults. He's stubborn and micro manages everything, maybe even a dictator. This might be his downfall. But he's our manager, and he's giving trials to the likes of Sebastian Perez. People might rightly feel aggrieved by this. But look at all of his success in the market. They were all young relatively unknowns.
{Ed022's Note - Playing devils advocate in response: I completely understand with what your saying, however, I think Arsenal fans are frustrated (myself included) because "Wenger's way" hasn't brought trophies. Yes he has overseen the building and completion of state of the art 60,000 seater stadium. Yes he has kept us in the CL for the last 16 seasons. But, the scrolls of history don't care about that. They only see winners and trophies won. Something Arsenal don't feature in over the last few seasons to say the least...}
07 Aug 2013 10:35:11
Who would in a fight between Wenger and Rogers?
I go with Wenger. I reckon he's got a serious nut on him.
{Ed022's Note - There's a pay per view fight that would be great interest. How about Moyes and Mourinho? I reckon Moyes would bring out the Glasgow kiss...}
07 Aug 2013 10:13:01
is it just me or do we need to look back at the years we were sucessful? we had a very strong spine of the team. Seaman/ Adams or Keown, Viera/ Henry
C mon Arsene ; Cesar / Fellani & Suarez and we would be somewhere near there. any thought's on a Centre back?
{Ed022's Note - Hate to say it but all title winning teams have a good spine. Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba for Chelsea 2005/6 Hart, Kompany, Yaya Toure and Aguero for Man City 2011/12. Man Utd on paper didn't have big names but these players performed consistently over the season. De Gea, Evans, Carrick and RVP...}
07 Aug 2013 10:25:36
Re : Sebastian Perez.
It's nice to know the future is looked after at Arsenal FC, there has never been much doubt about our youth policy and buying promising talent, the problem for Arsenal after so many years without success is the here and now, without that being addressed the future hardly matters because they will be rushed through to make up the numbers in the senior squad and ultimately fail and be loaned out or sold on.
Wenger has a habit of buying young talent and then selling them before they ever got a chance to make a name for themselves.
Yeah I totally agree. We need more of a balance, great to brings younger players with potential in sonogo, possibly perez, etc.
But we need proven talent. Hopefully we're get suarez and a few other "mature" players.
07 Aug 2013 09:25:00
Before I write this, I'd just like to say that a player of Suarez's quality is always welcome at Arsenal, regardless of price tag.
But am I the only one that thinks that what Suarez is doing to Liverpool is horrible (forcing a move and making it publicly known that he wants to leave) and that a personality like that is really not welcome at this club?
If we were to sign him, it won't be long before he turns his back on us and screws us over like he has done with Liverpool.
Is this a player we want to spending 45 million+ on? Quality wise definitely, but would he be good for us?
I am still of the opinion that we won't get Suarez, that hasn't changed. I'm happy that we are at least trying our best for top quality players.
Nick.
He won't sign for us.
chelsea or madrid.
we never buy a player with such baggage.
malaga gooner
{Ed022's Note - Personally, I think Suarez could have an Eric Cantona style effect on us. I also think Wenger can see something along those lines. However, I do agree that if Chelsea and Mourinho came in then he would choose them straight away...}
07 Aug 2013 10:14:10
The sad thing is if he didn't have the baggage we would never have a chance of getting him
{Ed022's Note - Please register your name...}
But if Suarez is right and its a breach of contract its disgraceful from liverpool
watford gooner
Oh come on. We moan and moan about getting world class players, we have bid on one and were moaning about that now
We need a few nasty persons in our team,
{Ed022's Note - Completely agree. We need some Vieira style intimidation in the dressing room, in the tunnel and on the pitch. Too many "nice" footballers get pushed around by the "bigger boys"}
I've about had enough of other clubs doing the same to us and our players manufacturing moves away. We have made a mistake by offering a pound over 40m. Little bit insulting. But if he comes however he comes he would improve our team considerably.
Malaga has said this deal will not happen. YES!! This means we are guaranteed to sign him very soon.
Players at every club engineer their moves, enough of our players have done the same (Cesc, RvP, Nasri etc), I'm not loosing any sleep over Suarez forcing himself out of Liverpool. In fact I'm looking forward to the possible purchase of a Suarez shirt, it'll be the only shirt I've bought since the day we signed signed Arshavin.
Lmao chess
Paul it's not insulting at all, it's basic business. If there is a 40m clause then going 1 pound above 100% ensures you have met it, simple as that. It's only an insult if there's no such clause and Liverpool only said 'he's worth £40m' - then bidding 40m and one pound is an insult. But Wenger and co clearly believe their is a written clause to that figure and so why would anyone bid more when nobody is competing with us? We're not legally obliged to do so.
07 Aug 2013 09:15:37
There's something nagging in the back of my head that Suarez will finally get his move from Liverpool, at the end of the window, to a Champions league team, in London. Chelsea!
There's absolutely no way John W Henry will want todo business with us after his tweet and outbursts.
Cant see him at Chelsea. Especially not after the bite on Ivanovic (sp). The Chelsea fans were pretty brutal on him and I presume there's bad blood between the two players since then.
Personally, I think the only real threat is that Real Madrid put in a late bid after this Bale mess is sorted out. Spurs could afford him when / if they sell Bale, but they can't offer him CL. Just leaves us and City in the EPL and City have just signed Jovetic and Negrado.
07 Aug 2013 08:52:41
Atletico Nacional's Sebastian Perez is to go through a trial at the club starting today and so it has proved as the 20-year-old published a photo of him with Arsenal's skipper at the training ground on Monday morning.
Let's all wish Perez the best in hopefully becoming Wenger's next gem.
Here was Perez and Vermaelen today.
http://redlondon.net/2013/08/05/picture-columbian-midfielder-arrives-at-arsenal-for-big-test/
{Ed022's Note -Please register your name...}
07 Aug 2013 08:06:24
Personally if I was an employer and one of my staff no matter how much I thought of him made it public that he wasn't happy and was doing his upmost to leave I would know, unless I was a complete div, that I was never going to get 100% out of him anymore. No matter what the directors of Liverpool are coming out with, what Suarez has recently come out and said MUST be enough embarrassment to Liverpool to have to now wipe their mouths and concede that the time is up. Whether Suarez comes to us is another matter. A lot of us would like to see it happen as we are now getting a bit desperate and I can't blame anyone for that. But we have been so unlucky lately and I hope I'm wrong, but I can see his move being Real Madrid or even Spurs.
{Ed022's Note - Suarez will NEVER sign for Spurs. End of. Real Madrid is possible but at the moment their focus is Bale...}
07 Aug 2013 07:24:55
Luis Suarez will push through a move to Arsenal but not until we have qualified for the Champions League. Liverpool and BR have made it quite clear they are desperate to keep hold of him and although he has come out and said he wants to leave for a champions league club, Liverpool will play hard ball and hope we do not qualify. I expect the transfer to be done within a couple of days after we have qualified
{Ed022's Note - After we qualify we will only have a couple of days til the end of the transfer window so let's hope so!}
07 Aug 2013 05:06:53
Ed's, have you got an update on Ashley Williams to Arsenal?. Also, any update on what's going on with regards to the gk targets?
{Ed022's Note - I would be very surprised if Williams signs for Arsenal at the moment as Wenger does not see him being worth £10m. Also I feel his eyes are on strengthening midfield and upfront. As for a goalkeeper, all going quiet on that one for now...}
07 Aug 2013 05:00:37
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Fantasy Footy league if anyone is looking for another one to join.
Cheers
07 Aug 2013 04:48:08
That article in the Guardian is excellent. Arsenal and Suarez come across well, Rodgers is shown to be the brat. I hope all the scousers who can read, do read it.
Paul
Mate, there is no need to insult liverpool over this. I think you have been completely misled as Suarez has not come across well at all, in fact Suarez is the one whining to the press he said he hated about the club and manager he said he loved about 2-3 months ago after the club supported him when he bit a player and got King Kenny sacked.
Cheers
GOD
07 Aug 2013 10:17:57
Paul, do you honeslty believe he would spend rest of his career with you?
If you don't win anything. he would leave you straight away.
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07 Aug 2013 02:35:30
So Brenden Rodgers preaches loyalty, this from a man who left Swansea who agreed he could join a club of higher standing after a very good season. Now history is the past and Liverpool have a fantastic history and are a great club. The fact is however right now with champions league football Arsenal have a higher standing, and if LS stayed a year after Juventus came in for him, on the promise he could leave then it is Liverpool and Brenden Rodgers who lack class. And all this after a personal guarantee by Mr Rodgers that he would oversee the transfer himself if they failed in their quest for champions league football. We all know Liverpool stood by Louis during his troubles but he kept to his word and his return of goals and assists last year point to his efforts. Time for Liverpool and Brenden Rodgers to keep to theirs, show a bit of class eh.
I don't know why Suarez wants to play 8 cl games. Arsenal are always knocked out in pre quater finals
{Ed022's Note - You could say its 8 games more than Liverpool will play this season. In addition to this, whats to say we won't go further after stealing Suarez from you?}
C'mon, I'm not a Liverpool fan but you CANNOT be serious thinking LS has the moral high ground here? Te guy is a snake and will use any means necessary to get away! If he feels so badly treated he should hand in a request but he's tOo greedy!
If I were you I'd be careful what u wish for, Suarez is bad news IMO
Hey Bangkok Gooner. I am a liverpool fan and I just want to ask whether you thought this way last year when one of your rivals came in for Van Persie, or when Cole left for Chelsea. I am not having a go, I am just saying it is very difficult for us as Liverpool fans to let one of our best players go to one of our rivals.
Cheers
GOD
{Ed022's Note - Its exactly the same as the RVP situation or selling to Man City or Chelsea which Arsenal have done on several occasions. If you can help it then you don't want to strengthen your rivals. Liverpool would love Madrid to come in and bid and then it would be problem solved. Whether this actually happens or not, only time will tell...}
Liverpool is not a rival to Arsenal Football club. Not anymore!
07 Aug 2013 02:01:39
ed honestly do you think the suarez deal will happen or not? cheers {Ed027's Note - i'm not sure mate, I can't see it personally, i'll stay quietly confident
Good answer ed. I myself is quietly confident. Lol. Just wish it goes a lil bit faster.
07 Aug 2013 01:45:09
You alright lads and ladies.
Who can come up with the best potential headline for tommorrow concerning Suarez comments tonight/this morning?
I'll get the ball rolling shall I.
Amnesty International brought in to negotiate with Somali pirates/Bredon Rodgers.
. Good one
07 Aug 2013 01:44:47
Heard from inside sources at the emirates,
Arsenal will get Suarez, for 45 mil
liverpool have a replacement ready with diego costa I believe,
also heard that we are looking to sign a romanian stirker, who is a free agent
ed is there truth in this, and what other players are we looking at?
That stuff about the romanian striker is all guff from his agent to get interest in his player, shalke (i think) released him so that tells you all you need to know about that.
07 Aug 2013 01:38:35
Read all about it, Read all about it!
Suarez ready to take action if Liverpool don't let him leave.
Suarez promised Liverpool exit last summer.
Contract stipulates Suarez free to leave if Liverpool don't reach the champions league.
Suarez demands Liverpool keep their promise or their in breach of contract.
Brendon Rodgers looks like a right wolly after latest Suarez outburst.
In the telegraph and guardian tommorrow morning heck who am I kidding you can add to that every single major uk newspaper front and back page (slight exagerastion), sports website, broadcaster etc.
And Especially the Liverpool Echo our lad lol.
Great news but is he pushing to leave and go where? Could well be Real Madrid mate I'm afraid!
{Ed022's Note - Real Madrid have got their eggs in the Bale basket at the moment. If that fell through then i'd be worried. At the moment, we are the only club to bid and be officially interested...}
Was it only me who read 'read all about it' in a 1940's cockney accent?
{Ed022's Note - No! I feel it is the ONLY way to read "read all about it..."}
07 Aug 2013 00:49:22
I think Luis Suarez saying that is because he has agreed personal terms with the gunners. Come on wenger sign him up and sign marica as a back up option for Giroud.
07 Aug 2013 00:44:00
Have to say out of respect for Liverpool fans who I Have a lot of time for (may 89 great losers who showed me respect at anfield that night) I don't think saurez wants to come to us he wants madrid to bid just using arsenal he has no repect the team that pay his wages
I agree LS preferred destination would be RM- let's face it RM or barca want a player, most players would jump at the chance to join them.
However, if RM can't find the money and no one else comes in for him, we have a good chance of getting him.
Which is why, in a way, I wish arsenal would just bid 50mil and get the deal done- I think we would get him then for sure.
I agree, as soon as and if RM make it known that they want him any deal with Arsenal will be off. Having said that if we had him for say 3 years then I would be very happy with this as he is a proven top class player & goal scorer. Fingers crossed.
07 Aug 2013 00:11:39
Read that Anji have to sell Eto'o. Hmm, pretty sure he'll have to lower his wage demands no matter where he goes.
He'd be a great signing to see out his remaining years here. Can't really think where he could go. Monaco? {Ed027's Note - Chelsea is my bet if he leaves, Anzhi have changed things, clubs will rethink now that Eto'o, Willian, Diarra are available
07 Aug 2013 00:05:30
Hello edd what is the possibility of Jack Rodwell coming to the Emirates? As we would need a defensive midfielder, why not rodwell he could add to our English contingent and would be quite cheap? {Ed027's Note - none mate, we don't need another Diaby
07 Aug 2013 00:02:07
He did it. Suarez interview with the guardian. Ball rolling faster now folks. Well, I hope.
I am just glad it isn't us in this sh!tty situation this time around so I'm not even going to sink the boot in to any Liverpool fans as I know how painful it is.
If it was Utd and Rooney, might be soon ;) I'd be rubbing it right in.
(Just what I read) Arsenal want a front three of:
Walcott Rooney Suarez
PS. I'm still really sceptical and fully expect someone to come in a steal him (Suarez) from us. Really can't see us even going for Rooney or him wanting to join us but whatever, just wanted to get the little bit of excitement out and then go back to being realistic.
06 Aug 2013 23:59:38
Can someone please repost the fantasy league info?
Thanks!