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08 Aug 2013 23:08:02
We could use a player like Viktor Andrade, and he's already made it clear he wants to play in the PL now. It would be very Wenger-esque if we were to sign him in this window
Sounds very you-esqu.
08 Aug 2013 23:06:30
Would anyone else like to revert back to a 442. Think a midfield 4 of Gibbs Ramsey (because of his engine) Wilshire and Walcott could really work with Santo behind Giroud. Monreal and Gibbs on the left would be a wingers nightmare. I believe with that we would only need bender and Suarez as starters. He could play Santo and Giroux's position as could pod so there's 4 players for 2 positions. Bender in for Ramsey and to me it looks solid defensively and very creative. Thoughts please?
Basically you want gibbs as a lw?
i like him there, not everyone does
No Arteta? No credibility!
08 Aug 2013 22:34:42
I am starting to get realy excited now. This major clear out must mean some great players are replacing the departed players! Wenger has always said he won't buy unless it will strenghten the team, so that must mean he will sign better players that those left.
Let's hope mate. This will be the best or the worst summer for us. I'm edging towards best.
08 Aug 2013 22:06:42
Why does benzema always come up in the transfer window on here? I personally feel he's an average lazy forward un wouldn't want him.
Agreed .
08 Aug 2013 21:50:44
Gervinho out. Nani in for similar price?
Good business?
08 Aug 2013 21:46:38
To all the "fans" slated wenger for not getting any 1 in, come on think about it all the players going out we are Defo signing players just wait and see
08 Aug 2013 22:48:55
See Liverpool's owners at it again, how did we ever get involved with these clowns, leave him there I say, go and BUY another player, watch them sink without a trace. How can he ever play for them again?
''The car in front is a Liverpool fans''!
08 Aug 2013 21:57:31
Does anyone know what the situation with frimpong is? I know he was out of contract this summer but has he been offered a new one?
08 Aug 2013 21:27:22
Banter please ed
Hi guys, I'm reading some comments on another forum where there seems to be a lot of people saying the goalkeeper should be the last priority when trying to strengthen the team.
I believe the opposite is true, after all didn't we have a pretty fantastic team in front of Almunia for a while?
I truly believe that not getting a good premiership class keeper in at that time cost us cups.
Any thoughts?
Totally agree.
Almunia cost us at least 10 points that season. Szczesny and Fabianski has cost us matches too.
08 Aug 2013 21:19:15
where do ex liverpool players and directors get the front to say they are in direct competition to arsenal.
how many points were they behind us last season and the season b4. how many times have they beaten us over the last 15 years.
they have no money and their owners have to pump over 50 mill every year just to keep them afloat.
i use to have a lot of respect for them as a club but they have become deluded.
i understand BR has to stick up for his club but some times in life your better of just keeping your mouth shut.
the class liverpool use to have is just HISTORY and nothing else.
DONT KNOW WHAT THEIR SMOKING AT ANFIELD BUT IT HAS TO BE SUM HOT S (-)IT AND I WANT A TUG ON IT.
LAST TIME LOOKED THE TOFFEES WERE THE TOP CLUB IN LIVERPOOL.
Respect their history but not the current set up. Rogers is so far out of his depth, gone by November, proberbly along with Wenger
It's not just our past players commenting is it? yours too.
Hope Sonago works out for you.
But don't you still consider Manchester Utd as rivals? How far behind them did you finish?
I think Liverpool have got a few years to go, but a good project none the less but yeah they have deluded fans like every team.
You're closest rivals at the moment are us - Spurs. And you're deluded if you can't see that
Hang on a second malaga gooner, when did you last lift a pot? 8 years and counting? Who do you cockneys think you are taking a swipe at still the most successful team in the country? Your not in the same street as liverpool mate domestically or in europe your streets behind! In that 8 years we've lifted the fa cup, the league cup, been to a champs league final and just fell short of the league! You base your success on gaining champs league every season, nothing more! Think again before you take a swipe at a giant, your not getting suarez because we are big enough to tell you your not! You will do as your told unlike you lot who feed the manchester clubs whenever they come calling! Just remember, your streets behind!
Ian the red
1 question, do you consider Manchester United as your rivals? How far behind them did you finish?
Your right, LFC aren't in competition with Arsenal as they have been winning trophy's in the last 10 years where as AFC haven't. oh sorry you have, you keep winning that 4th spot trophy, you have even started targeting the top 4 in the Emirates cup now lol.
To Red Ant. In the last 10 years Arsenal have gone an entire premier league season unbeaten.
In the last 8 years we have won nothing, while you have won an FA Cup and a League Cup. More than us, but not that impressive.
Arsenal are a better team that Liverpool, stop looking at history, look at the present. The present shows Arsenal as a more competitive team than Liverpool.
With the current set ups, I think that will change in 2/3 years and Liverpool will surpass us. Rodgers is a great manager and he will prove it.
Unless Arsenal change something up we will fall behind, apparently that is what is happening now, we are making a change by trying to sign Mona the Vampire.
Out of interest. what the f*** is John Henry smoking. To so adamantly say Suarez is not leaving is going to make him look like an person. Keeping Suarez would make him look even more personic. Wenger has had similar situations but not at this level. Get over yourselves.
All Liverpool supporters still think its about 1980 still. big club my arse have been on slippery slope for years, king Kenny (hee hee) another joke spends over 100 million in couple seasons and made you even worse than before. Carroll,, aquelani, downing etc YOUR CLUB IS A JOKE
Why don't you bitter scousers go back to your own page.
We may not have won a trophy for 8 years (ouch), but we still managed to finish miles ahead of yous (sic).
Last season we scored more goals and got more points than with Van Persie in the team.
Lets see how you lot get on without your 30 goal a season striker.
Your team is knackered whether Suarez stays or goes mate.
Get over yourself and stop living in the past.
MarkyMark
Was any of you deluded scousers born the last time you on the league
Would all the Liverpool supporters please climb back into your respective holes please. Thank you.
Wow you lot scrape into the top 4 by the skin of your teeth and suddenly you're such a competetive team. How about if Newcastle hadnt gifted you a goal with sunday league defending on the last day? And the season before you had to rely on TWO howlers by Myhill the west brom goalkeeper on the final day. Also to all the brain dead people bleating on about without suarez we will be this and that, we have a significantly higher win percentage without him than with. Also Sturridge scored 10 in 14 appearances in the PL. What makes u think he won't score the same as or more than suarez given a full season?
Finally, last season we were only 12 points off you due to a horrendous start which was caused by us getting used to rodgers new style of play. We made so many individual errors at vital times that cost us countless points.
It amazes me how cocky the arsenal fans are on this site. You don't even pause to have a little think before going on the attack. The weird thing is, the arsenal fans I know in real life are actually very knowledgeable.
Petty and rather squalid little affair Arsenal FC I always found!
Liverpool Liverpool Liverpool my god they are so bitter. I bet you finish behind us AGAIN this season and I bet you finish mid table. Nail this post into your notebook and look at it at the end of the season. By the way how's the new ground coming on? Oh it's not happening is it I forgot, is that because your club is relatively skint again? Never mind you can always raise money by doing car washes outside the ground on match days boys.
08 Aug 2013 21:09:54
Is it true we've got a first refusal on Lamela as part of the gervinho deal?
Wishful thinking I think mate but would like it to be true. Doesn't he have that whole third party ownership thing
08 Aug 2013 21:01:55
So Gervinho is confirmed to Roma for an undisclosed fee. Personally, I feel sorry that Wenger had the stupidy to play him down the middle on numerous occasions when clearly his strengths and best work was done down the wing. This all affected his confidence which is clearly key for a player who relies on taking on the defender. As frustrating as he may have been at times, he gave 100% and I'll miss him and don't see us replacing him!
Hew did play on the right in his first season he was crap there also. I personally won't miss him.
Another one of wengers top buys
He was a mess, made good runs but always played a touch too many and couldn't finish anything. He was played in the wings largely and didn't really do much there too.
Thanks god for Roma (we got 8 mill, that's a surprise!).
Failed project, but will miss him. He possessed and attribute that very few of our players have. the ability to dribble
08 Aug 2013 20:57:32
The Marvelous Mons. Wengler. Magician Impossible. How does he do it? He's got us all guessing. Who will he unveil. What dark secrets does he harbour within those cavernous, cobwebby sleeves. Maybe someone, maybe noone. Nobody knows. Not sure even he knows. Maybe it's the Uruguayan with the sharp teeth and the funny claws (clause). Maybe it's the scouse potato with the temper. We don't know - he don't know. Magic circle don't know. The clock ticks and the genius professor strokes his chin, fiddles with his zip and asks his wife "how much should I go up to for Benzema?"
- It's driving me crazy!
Are you saying Arsene has a wizards sleeve? I thought that was just the Scouse fans!
08 Aug 2013 20:49:58
How is it possible that a rumour has been going round all afternoon that Arsenal have signed that random uncapped Moroccan player from that Ligue 2 team and it's not reached these pages yet?!
Because we can't muster the enrgy to care? We want actual first team signings, not cynical shirt selling oportunities to raise our profile in Morocco.
I thought everyone was going to b*tch about it so I though better of it.
Ha fair enough!
08 Aug 2013 20:33:49
Do you think a change of system/ formation is on the cards with the lack of established wingers?
Like to play 4411
Fan of 4-1-4-1 too. But anything tactically flexible would be nice. We formations with the fluidity of stop-mo Subboteo at the moment.
Dandan, Do you even follow Arsenal? We play a front 'interchangeable' line of 3. Who needs conventional wingers? If we sign Suarez, he won't necessarily play in the middle up front. He will switch with Walcott, Ox, Poldolski etc. Drags defenders out of position and allows us to do what we do best.
Yes or even a diamond midfield with a DM and AM with to CM that roam the pitch as on Ramsey Wilshere?
Now that Ox can play midfield leaves
Podolski Giroud Walcott to be top 2
With only youngsters who are full out and out wingers as in Gnabry and Ryo?
08 Aug 2013 20:09:49
Apologies if this has already been mentioned but the sale of Gervinho to Roma for £8 million kind of hails another change in the way things are now happening.
No longer keeping a player who is not cutting the mustard but after 2 years he's sold for some decent money.
Appreciate it would of been nice if this kind of thing happened way sooner but for me it's another positive move in the right direction for the Arsenal.
Still have good feelings about this window and hoping Mertesacker, Podolski, Gnabry and Eisfeld are doing their bit to persuade Lars to come here.
08 Aug 2013 19:49:17
If we are willing to spend this on Suarez, why didn't we just pay the 55m for Cavani or Falcao?
Guaranteed the transfer sagas wouldn't have been like this
Suarez has proven himself to be a goal scorer in the premiership
Man after my heart. well said
Because he's better than both of them. Plus he's played In the prem and they haven't.
Wages would have been a lot more apparently both on 200k plus a week Suarez only around 100-150k a week which isn't a massive jump from what we offered rvp
Because he thought he will get him for cheap, that's not happening now and we are moving into crazy money land (poor attempt to appease the fans but I will take it :-))!
Firstly, he has proven himself in the premier league, secondly I think he is a better player than Cavani, and finally, didn't Falcao turn down a move to City or Chelsea
08 Aug 2013 19:56:07
I think Suarez will go to Real, Bale seems to be staying put, or have Utd the cash to spring a shock?
Leaving us with Rooney?
Think there's going to be a lot twists and turns and some shocks hopefully. Were certainly clearing the decks for some big signings hopefully.
08 Aug 2013 19:55:12
Gervinho officially gone on our website. Just more to be added to the unspent war chest and a few '000 a week off the wage bill. Will he be replaced along with the keeper, centre back, defensive mid and striker we really need. I hope the next week will be a positive one.
Add another 0 bud
08 Aug 2013 19:52:59
With Gervinho now gone, the first team squad has never been so thin, even Bendtner must have a chance of a game.
He is now our back up striker. how did it come to this
08 Aug 2013 19:52:18
Another day and no action, with blog sites screaming for action, players screaming for action, the owner board and chief exc, screaming as well what is Wenger waiting for, already think it's to late for this window, so angry with Wenger now this is his fault and his alone. No excuses anymore.
08 Aug 2013 19:37:02
I think we should all scour Europe for players who have some notoriety in there national team but are in fact useless, a clue being Bendtner or Park. We should each pick one and whoever Wenger ends up buying on deadline day, the person who picked them can win a prize.
Holmesy
Bendtner is not useless for Denmark. But club football isn't his strong point.
08 Aug 2013 19:23:42
We are getting rid of the deadwood from the squad, let's be happy about that. I didn't think we'd manage to shift this many if them. 3 left to go though.
We aren't getting Suarez, we won't sign a player note till after CL is sorted then prices will go up as teams know we will desperate. Arsene won't pay inflated prices we'll end up with players of Parks ilk and ability.
But come December we'll have that great new signing of world class ability and attributes of Diaby to look forward to. Given his injury record he could be a new signing at the start of the January and the end of it.
Holmesy (still trying NIGUNNER)
08 Aug 2013 19:17:10
until this point i've tried to find a suitable back-up solution in case we won't sign suarez. and it finally hit me.
it's michu.
i think he'd fit in brilliantly. he's always at the right place at the right time and his finishing is cool and clinical. wouldn't be disappointed if we signed him.
Was good till january, then rubbish, although so we're swansea
08 Aug 2013 19:08:40
Gervinho has gone! WOOHOO! Let's party! Wenger, now you have sold some deadwood, buy some world class
08 Aug 2013 18:01:16
Bit of a shot in the dark, but I'm moving to Shanghai next month for a year, really want to get involved with a supports' club, meet some fans. Wondered if anyone on this site lived in the area or had traveled to Shanghai and knew of any good bars to go to meet fans and watch the games? I know that this website is primarily about transfer talk, but would appreciate any knowledge and advice anyone has Cheers :)
I think there was something on the arsenal website about a pub over there about a year ago, just google it mate.
hope you have a great time and carry on posting
08 Aug 2013 17:24:49
Know this is in the press but a mate from work is telling me word on jersey side is we've submitted a bid for 51 million for suarez
He is a pool fan whose brother works in the back room staff of liverpool
Just thought would pass on think we should hear something next 12-24 hrs
08 Aug 2013 17:22:51
Regarding the Suarez saga, He has been quoted as saying, he wants to keep it friendly, amicable even!
Add this to BR stance becoming more hostile, what do you think the chances are of Suarez actually staying put, Its a funny old game, however, I think too many bridges have been burnt, on both sides,
Knowing that Pere Guardiola is Luis Suarez manager, do you think Bayern could make a late run on Suarez?
08 Aug 2013 17:12:19
Perez at Real Madrid hinting that 100m euros is too high for Bale, clearly means Suarez will be off to Spain
Not necessarily- it could just mean that 100miol euro's is too high! There still on-going negotiations.
But I agree and we've always known that if rm come for suarez, we've lost any chance.
See what happens.
If bale stays for 1 more season, Spurs are looking good to finish above us in the league. rediculous that its even a possibility.
Then you have answered it, spurs will not back down from their evaluation. So 100 million euros makes the player out of reach
My view is we have totally ****ed this window up, both bale and goofy will end up at real, we have made the running but once again can't cross the line, if this happens Wenger should be booted out no matter what he has done in the past, It will be proof he no longer can work the market.
What on earth needs to happen until he is "nudged" into action, silent Stan dropping in from on high has no effect and we will struggle to get 6th with no new faces aghhhhh
Surely spurs will have to sell Bale now - they've spent so much money.
No they are bankrolled by a mysterious billionaire.
08 Aug 2013 17:10:53
Read an article about Aaron Ramsey on another website
And it has had me wondering what my fellow gooners believed
1: does Aaron Ramsey have the qualities to be in the arsenal team
And 2: would you prefer a partnership of two midfielders in the holding role or just one player
My opinion is that ramseys sheer determination' drive and engine warrant his place in the starting line up
And that he has created a good understanding with arteta so we should be playing with two cdm's and not just one lump in their place.
What do you reckon gooners and goonettes
Ramsey has been our best player this preseason
He ran our show this Emirates cup
By the end of the year, he will command a price tag over 20mil, just you watch
If you were lucky enought to go to the emirates cup Saturday, you saw a midfield duo of Wilshere and Ramsey swapped to Arteta Ramsey at Half time and the thing that struck me most first half was the lack of midfield. Jack and Ramsey both wonder and left a massive void allowing Napoli to run straight at the defence, it was only when Arteta came on and literally didn't move from the middle of the park that solves the problem.
In theory I would love a duo of Wilshere and Ramsey but in reality neither have the positional discipline to compliment one another. If Cazorla played LW a midfield or Ramsey Wilshere and Arteta could work very well but a midfield of Wilshere Ramsey would simply not be defensively sound enough.
One thing to note Ramsey's long ball game was bang on point almost Alonso like. It's a hard call who to leave out, out if Wilshere, Ramsey but at present Arteta has to start unless we sign a DM but then its hard to drop Arteta aswell considering his stats last year
Dandan
Ramsey definitely deserves a starting place; he has more than engine, he has great touch, decent vision and just needs to add shooting. He looks to me that he has suffered from confidence issues and overcoaching, but that seems to have been sorted out. Arsenal need to sort out wtf they want from midfield, as the 4-3-3 is killing creativity. Ramsey should have a box to box role regardless of formation. I think I said elsewhere here I see him as Khedeira type player. Maybe Parlour role in a 4-4-2?
Determination and drive don't warrant you a place in the team. Just because you work hard does not mean you have the ability to start in a side.
You're right though, he does give 100% and shows brief spells of class.
That said, after an ideal transfer market, he would not start in our first team in my opinion.
I prefer just one holding midfielder as it would allow both Jack and Santi free reign to work their magic. They are both guaranteed starters when fit.
Unfortunately, if a quality holding mid is not signed then I think really Ramsey has to start, nobody else in the midfield has an engine like he does. It would mean Jack would have to play more defensive, or Santi would have to play on the wing which is not ideal.
Ramsey is a quality squad player that can do a job on the pitch when needed. I however, am not convinced he should be a starter for Arsenal Football Club.
08 Aug 2013 17:01:45
it's been reported on twitter that flamini is training at arsenal, weather this a joke as we're not signing anyone or not i'm not sure, but we have been known to allow former players back to train to gain fitness.
personally I believe although he has been let go by milan, I feel he could be a very useful addition and knows how we play. 29 years old hopefully he still has his energy and with some added maturity.
I wouldn't mind Flamini back, I rated him at Arsenal
Will do a job, Wenger will mess it up though!
Rather have flamini than say Gareth Barry. 29 so not over the hill and could offer experience head for CL games.
08 Aug 2013 16:28:52
Baring a miracle, I don't think we will be signing any superstars be it Suarez, Rooney etc.
If this is the case, who would we all be happy for to come to out great club.
Although not superstars I would be happy to the following coming to AFC :
Ashley Williams
Luiz Gustavo
Karim Benzema
Plus turning the trial of Sebastion Perez to a permanent deal.
IMO these players would be just what is needed to take the team up another notch.
A Williams - Good player with PL experiance and would compliment KOS in the centre of defence.
Luiz Gustavo - The missing link in our midfield, a defence midfielder, ready to help the back four when our attack minded midfielders and forwards go up field.
Karim Benzema - Proven goal scorer and someone not affraid to shot from outside box.
Let us know who you would like to see?
Surely Karim 'the dream' Benzema should be classed as a superstar? Even if he's 'only' worth 40 million. Shrapnel :)
Only 40mil. it's all gone mad
08 Aug 2013 16:08:55
Time to worry yet?
Have been for last 2 weeks. As Eds and many others have suggested, there is probably a lot going on behind the scenes. Given how we normally behave in the transfer market, I am expecting 1 signing before the season starts and a flurry over the last week. Of course past traumas are surfacing and part of me worries we will get 2-3 players of lower quality than hoped. But I am staying positive, I still feel like this year is different. Just has to be SOMETHING before the Villa game.
08 Aug 2013 16:03:16
Hello Edds and fellow Gooners.
Considering Cesc has come out today and stated he has no intention of leaving Barcelona and will stay to fight for his place, even coming into the year of the World Cup. Surely he will more or less inherit Xavis role from next year on?
Do you think he will ever Barcelona leave now? and do you ever see him in a Gunners shirt again?
Would love to hear your opinions. great work gents!
I think he could come back one day - but not for a few seasons yet or maybe when he is in his late 20's or 30. Just my view.
08 Aug 2013 15:51:05
Last week I was sh!ite worried for signings, now I am just numb!
08 Aug 2013 14:59:59
(Willian), Etoó, (Samba), (Gabulov), (Julicei), Boussoufa, Carcela, (Diarra), (Traoé). Who would you like to sign?
Willian only!
Traore maybe, he's a less skilled, taller, more handsome Olly G.
Willian is handy, but them down the road want him!
And another Attacking mid can't be a priority this season.
*less handsome.
Had a writing mare there.
08 Aug 2013 14:57:38
Arsenal members day q&a with the players:
Q: one word to describe Tottenham?
Poldolski: there's a lot of family here
Ramsey: 5th
Haha legends
I was there too :) hear my Arteta hair question :)
Did anyone ask all the new signings about this. oh wait
Superb love those answers
That's funny, down the dog and duck, when asked for a joke about Arsenal, Wenger said, ' Higuain and big transfer budget '
08 Aug 2013 14:50:39
To answer 1 of your questions, Arteta said he only uses a bit of wax and his hair is not perfect but likes Ramsey hair.
Source - 500 people at arsenal members day Q&A
Haha nice one mate, did anyone ask about transfers? ie suarez?
With all the problems surrounding us, someone asks about artetas hair? **** me ask the right question
Yaters what's the point their not going to say anything. Someone asked about Suarez and their media team cut the question off. Anything about what we really want to know was not answered
Someone shouted out "Arsene! sign Suarez!"
And Wenger just smiled and gave him a thumbs up!
As for Arteta, he was lying, it's part of his deal with god to have great hair, so long as he does a good deed every day, and doesn't tell the secret, every day, two angels will descend from heaven and style his barnet!
Arteta's alter ego is Clark Kent his hair proves it :)
08 Aug 2013 13:48:37
Everyone around us has strengthened considerably, with the exception of Man Utd, who are still clearly 20 points better than us anyway. I think we've left it all too late, and add to that we've become a transfer window laughing stock, I find it difficult to see anyone wanting to join us. 40-50 million on Suarez is ridiculous, is that going to deliver us a significant trophy next season to justify the outlay, I don't think so. Activity in the market this summer isn't about appeasing the fans, it's about strengthening to win silverware. We could have purchased a quality striker, defender and DM with 50 mill by now, and looked promising for the new season, instead we're embroiled in a bitter and pointless wrangle over, admittedly a world class act, but above all a trouble maker, and considering our support is so ethnically diverse, something we should be proud of, a bloody racist! What an insult to our fans. Sort it out Arsenal. it's become oh so painful and embarrassing. We don't want you to throw massive amounts of money at clubs to acquire players, we're proud of our clubs financial acumen and working model. Just stop being so shambolic and disrespectful to the fans, we haven't got a clue what's going on and it's annoying, but not as annoying as the fact that a entire team of supposed, footballing, marketing and negotiating experts, who earn millions of pounds a year of our clubs money, seem more clueless than the rest of us. I'm worried!
This post is spot on, totally agree with every bit of it! I just wish wenger was reading it lol
Continuity is key. even with Suarez we are not close to winning the title.
we have to use what we have at our advantage which is our continuity with our squad and manager.
I think our players will do well. we may end up in the same position as last year, but its not that we are not trying.
Higuain went for more money, cavani and falcao not only went for more money but are on ridiculous wages.
Im not as happy as I could be, and the transfer window has been not utilised the way we wanted, but money talks now. and all we can do is wait.
if nothing goes down, we get behind the team.
08 Aug 2013 13:40:25
Any rumours about Bernard joining Arsenal can be ended now as he has joined Shakhtar Donetsk for a fee around £21.5 million.
08 Aug 2013 13:32:19
I really can't see Suarez joining AFC, he's destined for Madrid.
When he declared he wanted to leave Liverpool last season it was at the end of a bad period both on and off the field for him. He was sick of the Press, the FA and (possibly) Liverpools lack of CL football. He sited Madrid as his dream destination and wanted out. A few months later he finds himself in a hole, the only team who seem to want him are AFC. Wenger is notoriously cagey and has bid the minimum amount required to (seemingly) release him, or certainly allow him to talk to other clubs. It again goes quiet as we don't increase our offer, Suarez has to give an `exclusive` interview with the Daily Mail and say how unhappy he is, that Liverpool don't respect him and he's looking for CL football. luckily the only team who want him have that, omg what are teh chances of that?!
Again AFC don't increase their bid, we seem to be waiting for a transfer request or Liverpool to buckle. meanwhile however it seems Suarez, the poor chap, has given another interview with Marca saying how Madrid would be difficult to turn down. Hmmm. He just can't make up his mind can he.
Bottom line here is, if Madrid want him, he's going. If they bid £40M and 1p too, Liverpool will sell to them over us. We gave MU the title last year by selling them our best player, Liverpool aren't so stupid, u don't strengthen yr rivals whilst at teh same time weakening yr own team.
In a bizzare twist, if they do bid for Suarez (and atm, I don't think they will), it would mean Benzama may doubt his position and start creating waves. Wenger has always been an admire and maybe, just maybe he would be available. Still don't see Madrid wanting to help Suarez out tho.
So, we end up with a striker who doesn't want to join us but would rather do that than play for Liverpool.
W00t.
Not.
Suarez has already come out and said that he was asked a question by them which was would you like to play for real madrid and he said yes who would not want to play for then its the same with reina who said he would like to play for barca and many other players that have answered questions to the media but because its suarez everyone is assuming he only wants to play for real madrid and no one else which is not the case
Punctuation is your friend :)
Given everything that's been said, if Suarez says he wants to play for AFC its purely because we are his only option right now and that's better than staying at Liverpool.
Real Madrid are about to end their interest in Bale, the door has opened widely for Suarez
08 Aug 2013 13:28:35
Did anyone see what happened with the Galatasaray fans on Saturday? A big group of them seemed to have been kicked out quite early on into the game.
Yeh it was right in front of me, they all grouped up by the front of the pitch and wouldn't move back to the seats they'd been allocated when asked too so the police got involved and they still wouldn't move so a couple got arrested and the rest got asked to leave
08 Aug 2013 13:02:39
Everyone is getting distracted by the Suarez saga for obvious reasons, but the rest of the team is worrying me. We're still short in many places. Wenger said 'we're in for other deals', but who are they?
Ginter looks a great prospect and could be next season's Varane, but honestly who else are we looking at?! Gustavo is there aswell, but we're not even being linked with other players.
So, basically, does anyone have any idea who else we want? Hopefully we'll suddenly announce Ronaldo or someone lol
08 Aug 2013 11:53:46
By tomorrow lunchtime we will know our opponents for the qualifying round on the 20/21 Aug which is just 12 days away. Is anyone else worried like I am that our squad is so thin at the moment and with possible injuries to come from the first game of the season & the international games coming up we could end up getting dumped out at the qualifying stage. The addition of Suarez could if it happens before the 20th make all the difference between us earning millions from appearing in the Champions league so it must be worth taking the gamble of increasing the bid so that he can play.
08 Aug 2013 11:34:56
Has Gervinho actually completed his move, nothing offical yet on arsenal. com, or anywhere else.
Yes, sold for £8 million - from Arsenal. com
08 Aug 2013 11:32:04
eds, could the hold up on the gervinho fee, be due to negotiations over de rossi going the other way? just grasping straws as Ed027 said we are looking at bigger fish than gustavo, capoue and wanyama, and de rossi certainley is that. {Ed027's Note - certainly clutching at straws, but Gustavo is the bigger dish mate
08 Aug 2013 11:26:16
I've said it all along on here and I reiterate. From a very good source in South America. Suarez is intent on joining Madrid. They want him, and he's agreed terms. I was ripped to pieces for suggesting he'd agreed terms with them last week, but it's true. To think that the agent wouldn't have sorted this is naive.
They won't finalise a deal until they have concluded Bale business, as that deal is indefinite cost wise at the moment. Only if, after signing Bale, do Real decide not to add Suarez, then Arsenal will have the chance to try and buy.
It's simple. We aren't in the running unless Madrid decide not to buy. Personally, i'd be more concerned about our GK situation anyway.
Dreaming
Dreaming about what banbury gooner?
Apparently Suarez has not been contacted by Madrid.
Players cannot agree terms with clubs until a fee is agreed with their club or at the very least the club has given permission to speak to their player, and by the looks of how Rodgers is acting I highly doubt he's allowed the Madrid to speak to Suarez and discuss terms, certainly a fee hasn't been agreed, so I'm afraid your post is incorrect
08 Aug 2013 11:17:39
Hold my hands up thought Bernard might sign for us however Shaktar have just officially completed the transfer.
Not that suprising since they were the only club to have a bid accepted. Surprising he's signing for shaktar when the World cup is next summer and every Brazilian playing for shaktar has been overlooked by Scolari for selection?
Except for Sudaez and Ginter I got nothing!
Maybe Gustavo if he doesn't sign for Wolfsberg?
We never bid for him mate. Spurs did, we told his club we would but never did. That information came straight from the president of his clubs mouth
Its real unfortunate too because he looks a good one
08 Aug 2013 11:16:39
Ed027 what do you reckon on benzema and suarez coming to us mate? {Ed027's Note - more chance of Suarez
08 Aug 2013 11:06:04
MUUUWAHA HA HA!
The cracks are beginning to show as Suarez is told to train by himself. Whatever happened to YOULL NEVER WALK ALONE?
I can't wait to see the expression on Brendan 'big mouth' Rodgers face when we get our man.
Was seriously expecting him to use the buyout clause in messi's contract as the next price comparison for Suarez.
Maybe when Liverpool finish 10th this season and he gets sacked he can be the new GO COMPARE guy. He's already as annoying!
Gunner till I die!
Maybe lpool will finish above you pal we were better without suarez guy and I can't wait to see expression on your face when suarez goes either to citeh or RM
we will sell him on our condition not yours or his
so zip it til is done
08 Aug 2013 12:52:04
BEST COMMENT EVER!
Go compare, the fat welsh guy a perfect future role for Rodgers.
Brilliant, I can picture right now.
P. s it's blatantly obvious Rodgers is running a campaign of character asssanisation on Suraez and Arsenal. He's also trying to win points with the Liverppol fans. Suraez been saying all summer he wants out and Rodgers come out all last week with Suraez understands aand is content at Liverpool.
How he got the job at Liverpool less then 18 months after Reading sacked him I will never know?
Another plastic scouser coming on here spreading his crap.
on our terms?
stick to selling your piebald's you tinker
Mate for once arsenal are not in the position they were years ago, matter of fact don't bother about 4th, first try and finish above everton
The new go compare guy aha, brilliant
Still no players bought so keeping hoping for Suarez and he has a lengthy ban.
08 Aug 2013 10:32:06
I for one don't mind having couple of bad boys in the team, someone like Pepe for example, Roy keane, someone who will headbut a player, tackle hard, spit, get red cards sometimes, because we are very pretty, we need couple of bad boys in there.
Ok getting red card is not a good one but you know what I mean.
08 Aug 2013 10:06:21
Just to take our mind of the stress that AFC like to inflict on us Gooners during the transfer windows has any body got any thoughts on best goals scored by Arsenal players at Highbury/Emirates here are mine
Limpars 50 yard lob over Liverpool goalie Mike Hooper and Wrightys chip over Neville Southall.
Away from home are Bergkamps goal against Newcastle and Charlie Georges goal against Man City in 5th round of cup 1971.
Also just for a bit of fun best goal seen scored by a Arsenal player in a international match
Bergkamps goal for Holland against Argentina Q/F
in France 98
Thanks for the site Ed
Easily the best goal was Paul Davis against Charlton, flying header right in front of us at the clock end 88/89 season, ran the length of the pitch, f***ing bullet into the net! The whole of highbury went mental, even the few Charlton fans that showed up?
Fabregas straight from the kick off against spurs is my favourite emirates goal.
Henry strike against man city at Highbury rifled into the top corner
One of my faves is more recent, 2009 against the spuds, when Cesc Fabregas scored a solo goal straight away from the Tottenham kickoff after van Persie got the opener. Just skipped through the whole team, sublime.
The other great for me was little left back Sylvinho against Chelsea in 2000. 25 yard bending screamer!
And who can forget Kanu's impossible angle finish!
Th14 lift and volley against Manchester United at highbury, could see it was going in as soon as he hit it.
John Jensen curls it in from just inside the area against QPR. Classic!
Agree with malaga's choice of henry. also loved winterburns against chelsea. henry's against sparta was my favourite recent european goal as well.
08 Aug 2013 09:48:25
Ed, in your opinion, do you think Arsenal will bid more than £40m+£1 for Suarez? {Ed027's Note - I never in my life thought we'd bid more than 30m for a player let alone 40m, we have around 150-200m in the bank, we can spend 100m comfortably
The answer is a simple one, if they don't bid higher, they will not be getting him in this window.
08 Aug 2013 09:26:55
Just trying to get my head round the implications of this clause in Suarez contract so bear with me.
I can understand a clause stipulating the terms under which LFC would be forced to sell but the general belief now is that this clause does not do that.
That leaves me wondering what use a clause is setting out the terms under which LFC must allow him to speak to another club. Ultimately its only going to cause problems for LFC and Suarez when a club comes along and triggers the clause.
AFC have done that with the £4m plus £1 and it sounds like LFC have complied with that and held talks with Suarez.
From LFC point of view this is incredibly risky and it looks like the risk has struck because Suarez and AFC appear to have found a deal. LFC are therefore stuck with a player whose head has been turned and who is no longer committed to them. They are still paying his wages and incurring that cost until they sell. They also face the very serious risk of his value plummeting if he can't be bothered so they will get much less than is currently on the table
I'm not ITK but to me it just looks like LFC negotiators made a right booboo allowing this clause into thw contract and now they are trying to cover their error by sticking to the valid technicality that the clause does not compel thwm to sell
The bottom line however is that they really have little other choice as it will cost them more to keep him for less benefit than it would to sell
Brendan therefore seems to be simplying to rack up the fee to avoid the backlash for the error of allowing the clause to be included
Also someone on here posted that a verbal agreement to allow Suarez to leave means nothing - this is wrong. Under English law all that is required to form a contract is a meeting of minds. Therefore if LFC said he could leave now after a year and he accepted they have a verbal contract which the courts could view as an additional clause or part of the written agreement. It would have been better for both LFC and Suarez to have put it in writing but ultimately their words should equally be their bond
I can see Brendan and Henry wriggling till the last minute and then selling - just don't know who too
Soopergooner
I found it very interesting that Rogers did that interview where he went on and on about Suarez staying, Suarez owing the fans, Suarez needing to build that bridge and publicly apologise before he gets played again, etc etc, point after point about how Suarez was going nowhere - and then he drops the line 'What we're trying to do is get the correct value for him' or something. After ALL his spiel, he drops that line and totally contradicts the entire interview. He comes across like a guy who isn't all that adept at being the spotlight on such a sensitive high-profile issue. It's fine to say 'we understand Suarez has no future here now, so it is about doing what is best for LFC' but to go on and on about him categorically being not for sale, and then drop the 'we want the correct fee' curveball is just getting it all wrong.
So far he's let slip the details of the bid, the one guy who knows no loyalty has preached it to the point of embarrassment and Henry has had a pop too. The whole situation could be handled better buy a guy who knows what he's doing and for me it seems a genuine case if when Suarez goes rather than if. All that remains to be seen is will we keep our interest, and will we compete should other clubs get involved?
08 Aug 2013 11:54:34
The deal is simple.
Either arsenal pay the amount liverpool Ask or just move on with your other targets.
We will simply look to sell him abroad, But a 50 mill offer would be considerd adn surez would be yours.
We are actualy happy with it coz. if arsenal sepnd 50 mill on suarez, 100% guaranteed you won't buy anyonen else.
08 Aug 2013 08:30:44
Have a memory from my youth of atteding a game at Arsenal - I was as usual just in front of the clock in the south end. Thw twins were as usual next row back (Two really giant identical twins who always wore Donkey Jackets). and ginger was there as well. shortish bloke built like a brick whatsit. We were all in a couple of hours early as there was a pre-game game against (I think) Grasshoppers of Zurich. This was done to ease in the crowd over a longer period as it was expected to be a record turnout. I can't remember much else though! Anyone else there or knows why. it was early season because it was £$%^ing hot.
We're the twins from islington as I remember some black twins who I use to see walking everywhere, dressed identical etc. use to walk down holloway road, St Paul's rd, and Upper street all the time. Even carried identical bags! that's took me back!
Those black twins that dressed identically were actually triplets, sadly one died years ago. Not sure about the twins at the game but the ones I've seen while around barnsbury were far from big.
08 Aug 2013 08:15:14
I did have to laugh when I heard Rodgers latest poor handling of Suarez. He will now leave for sure, whether its to us or another team! Rodgers is treading on thin ice & I wonder if the Liverpool fans legendary patience with their managers will last beyond the forthcoming season.
Actually, most liverpool fans completely agree with him. Well I do anyway.
GOD. Is obvious that Rodgers met with Suarez, knew what he said and publically stated the complete opposite.
Suarez then goes and states exactly what he said to Rodgers to the Guardian and completely against Liverpool's public statements.
Could have been managed better. We've been through this more times than you have though so have more practice!
I don't think rodgers particularly knows what he's doing to be honest, though he has never experienced something like this in his career before to be fair, just a fella out of his depth trying to make all the right noises.
08 Aug 2013 08:05:59
I am not too happy with the way the Suarez deal is going as I fear this current Liverpool situation may come back to haunt Arsenal too in the near future. However, my other problem would be the relationship between Liverpool and Arsenal might be heading for the rocks. but hey, remembering how we lost Hleb, Nasri and Van Persie and how Wenger has shown them respect up till now, I don't really care what BR or anyone thinks about Arsenal. We have suffered most in this sort of situations and lost our best players more than any other club in this world under almost similar situations.
08 Aug 2013 07:25:48
Ahh bored as usual. So I was just thinking, you know every team you hate has that one player that you wish you had, a player that when your mate starts talking about their team you would just say he's really not that good but in the back of your mind you are thinking damn I wish that Guy was playing for us!
My wish list is semi like this : chealsea - drogba (this guy was just class). Man u - Ole Gunnar Solskjær (he single handedly won games). Liverpool - stevie G (what else can I say). Suarez (for all his madness he really is a great player)
For now that's it I guess.
Drogba was a great shout! Going on current players in the league, mine would be Bale, because I do believe he is the best wing forward in the league. Tevez as well until this summer - I hate the guy but as a footballer I have always wanted someone like him here.
Hazard as well, just can't stand him for some reason but I wish he was an Arsenal player.
Other than that I don't really dislike many players. I hate most of the Barca or Spain team. Like Sergio Ramos, hate the guy but what a player. Same with Alves.
08 Aug 2013 07:24:38
A possible poll or a question to everyone.
If by a mircale Bale stays at Spurs and Suarez backs down and stays with Liverpool and all their new buys, would anyone consider them a genuine threat to 4th place?
Both teams have bought and by the looks of added some quality to their squads but should GB & LS I think they could be a real threat.
Just me or is anyone else thinking 4th place is getting just that little harder every time LFC and Spurs buy players.
I see both Liverpool and Spurs as our direct rivals to fourth, and if our squads stay as they are, right now I see us finishing behind them both, potentially. Spurs yes.
08 Aug 2013 07:07:33
On top of Liverpool not wanting to sell to another pl club, etc heard that Liverpool are furious with arsenal (over this transfer) and most definitely do not want to sell ls to us.
But I guess money talks, so wenger may have to pay what Liverpool are asking if he wants ls
I honestly think if someone else comes in for him, we're screwed now, even if it's less then we've bid.
But a apart from the infamous "£1" (which in itself there is nothing wrong with), I don't think arsenal have done anything bad here? Or have I missed something?
If there was a genuine belief on our part that "a bid in excess of £40M" would triggger something significant then why would you stretch to £40,000, 002? Only suprised we were happy to potentially waste 99p!
08 Aug 2013 06:21:29
Eds what do you reckon? I don't think Suarez will ever put. Liverpool shirt on again. What with all the slagging off that's been going on between him and Liverpool this week especially. let's face it he is not going to be popular with the Liverpool fans and apart from that can you imagine the bitterness he would be playing with if he was forced to stay. Personally I think he is GONE from there and you can almost hear a statement that's going to say Suarez has sustained a minor injury that sidelined him for the next game. What do you think boys. {Ed027's Note - suarez will leave
08 Aug 2013 05:29:58
In order for Arsenal to go into the season with confidence, we need players in the following positions:
1) Goalkeeper
2) Centre back
3) Defensive midfield player
4) Creative midfield player
5) Wide Left player - assuming Gervinho departs (highly likely)
6) Forward
I believe Wenger will sign players in the following positions:
1) Centre back
2) A midfield player
3) A forward
Wenger clearly wants to leave space in the squad for young players to come through. This puts us at a huge disadvantage against the top 3, who have experienced, top quality competition in all positions. Indeed, our rivals for 4th place are Tottenham, Liverpool & Everton. Of these, Tottenham are in the process of increasing the quality of their squad, although the likely loss of Bale is immense, but could be offset by the signings they have & are making. Neither Everton nor Liverpool look any stronger than last season.
Our starting eleven, when fit, looks fairly strong, with a couple of question marks, being the goalkeeping position (not convinced by either keeper), Ramsey (still not convinced) & Podolski (who still looks wrong played wide left). The problem is the back up, which lacks in depth, experience & quality. How Wenger remedies this by September 2nd, will define our season. The likes of Martinez, Miquel, Gnabry & Miyachi, still look short in terms of providing back up. Our first squad, in reality, only comprises of about 18 players. This is very worrying.
I am really torn because I know what we need and you are bang on, but then I can also see where Wenger is coming from when he says for that wide position he'd consider Gnabry and Ryo. I mean at some point they have to get a nod. The Ox caused most damage from wide areas again last season but still he is not used as a winger or told to play as one. His role seems up in the air. When he plays mid he's rarely attacking mid, I always see him picking the ball up in front of the defence! But yeah, it's a tricky one. I think we need a GK before we need a winger.
My priorities would be GK+CB, DM+ST, then attacking mids and wingers.
Ruffier, Rami/Williams, Gustavo, Suarez and for me anything else would be a luxury! I do get the motive behind ignoring Bernard and giving our young players a shot because they seem to be at that point where their game is going to explode, or it's flop time, and there's only one way to find out and that's to give them their shot, just like Maneiro did with Bernard.
08 Aug 2013 05:13:34
WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE - THE spurs HAVE A BETTER TEAM THAN US that's A FACT.
we need a RB, CB, CDM, LW, ST
whos better kyle walker or one of our RB?
we need to get rid of the big slow german lol, he has and will cost us goals, too slow for the prem,
loads of good defenders that will join arsenal, mangala, zouma, sakho, and many more, why don't we just sign one and pair him up with koscielny for the start of the season.
we are getting too lucky we don't have a good team anymore, we need a team to be built around our good players, spurs have lloris and brad friedel, I love arsenal to bits but what the hell is going on, they have soldado and we have giroud, i'm not even going to say whos better, its common sense.
most fans will say our strongest department is midfield, however when you look at Tottenham's their come close to ours as well, it dosent make sense we need more than 1 or 2 good players, we need at least 4 first team players to compete or otherwise our ambition will be top 4 again.
Please just give me some hope, i'm loosing faith in arsen wenger, I love arsenal but I just can't see us going forward like this, give me some advise how to cope with this s*** time lol thanks to all the gunners out there :) Ramin1994 (mind the spelling its 5am) :)
And they have just signed Capoue as well. can't spurs do there own tapping up.
How can You say Spurs have a better team, Only at the end of the season will we know. When was the last time Spurs finished above us in the league and how many times in the last 20 years, now that Is a FACT.
When Surs are consistanly finishing higher than Arsenal in the League then you can say they are a better squad. don't forget the transfer window has not closed yet.
Spurs without Bale last season would have been no where near competing for 4th and we despite losing our main star striker from the previous season still manged to score as many goals and ultimatly finished in the same position.
I posted last week about the Benzema possibility as Wenger wanted him before he went to R Madrid
If they lose Bale they lose points. Also Sagna is by far the better RB.
08 Aug 2013 02:48:46
Wishful thinking with a BIG if.
Could it be possible that we are wrapping up a deal for Benzema, allowing Real a free go at Suarez.
If this was to happen Real could get him for much less that 40 mill, as no other club would be interested in him, and we would have tied up Benzema.
Wishful thinking. But what if?
08 Aug 2013 01:45:22
i hope Arsenal bid 41 mil for Suarez, much easier to type that 40,000, 001. Think about the web real estate it will save over the years.
08 Aug 2013 01:07:48
What are the chances of Wenger capitalising on the problems at anzhi to bring in new players? Thanks
Willian would be a good purchase, but no doubt we would get outbid anyway, as they will just sell to highest bidder.
08 Aug 2013 00:42:02
Well you have to love it really (that, or cry) - literally within hours of each other, reports surface that Arsenal are bidding some astronomical sum for Benzema, to be followed in hot pursuit by tomorrow's Daily Star article saying we're going back to LFC with a £51m bid. Eye heart our media :/
Could you imagine both? That would be some strike force. Impossible to put together, but quite something.
I would feel we would go from 4th spot challengers to title challengers with those two additions! And maybe we'd finally get our formation change.